Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Manuel Reimer
Udo Richter wrote: Being actively developed and being needed are two different things. I wouldn't want to drop all the plugins that aren't under active development any more, as this would probably be true for 2/3 of my plugins. If there is really a need for that special unsupported plugin,

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Helmut Auer
If there is really a need for that special unsupported plugin, then the best way to go would be that at least one of all those distributions, who currently maintains that plugin, republishes it somewhere (AFAIR projects.vdr-developer.org was invented for that?). First step could be to apply all

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Manuel Reimer
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Never in my wildest dreams would I have expected such an outrage about this change, which was entirely intended to make things simpler in the future. But if this is not what people want, then let's just stick with the old Makefiles and declare version 1.7.34 a complete

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Christopher Reimer
OK. 50 plugins doesn't sound impossible to deal with. But they have to be in one place, as Manuel mentioned. Name these 50 unmaintained plugins and then we can check when and how they'll be moved to vdr-developer.org. Christopher 2012/12/29 Helmut Auer v...@helmutauer.de: If there is really

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Manuel Reimer
Helmut Auer wrote: We are talking about 100 Plugins. Maybe we can drop the half of these but 50 will be remaining ... No problem. Let's start a discussion about this in a separate thread. I bet that about 20 more plugins aren't worth the effort and so about 30 plugins will be left. Porting

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Lucian Muresan
On 12/29/2012 01:14 PM, Helmut Auer wrote: If there is really a need for that special unsupported plugin, then the best way to go would be that at least one of all those distributions, who currently maintains that plugin, republishes it somewhere (AFAIR projects.vdr-developer.org was invented

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Lucian Muresan
On 12/29/2012 01:07 PM, Manuel Reimer wrote: [..] In context of a plugin, VDR should be something like a backend library. It has to be installed, but the plugin should be compilable from *everywhere* as long as the backend library is there. This is why pkg-config was invented and this is how

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread fnu
von Manuel Reimer manuel.rei...@gmx.de The changes in 1.7.34 are a big change into the right direction! FullAck, but really at that time of 1.7.xx? At this time where 1.7.xx is more less saddled by all HDTV users? Many new festures have been postponed after V2 release. Some of them wouldn't

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 29.12.2012 17:52, fnu wrote: von Manuel Reimer manuel.rei...@gmx.de The changes in 1.7.34 are a big change into the right direction! FullAck, but really at that time of 1.7.xx? At this time where 1.7.xx is more less saddled by all HDTV users? Many new festures have been postponed after V2

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread fnu
von Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de From what I have seen in this thread lately, I don't think the outcry would have been any less then... You're maybe right, but I'm not sure. Because now, everybody does know, these changes will happen soon, no Plugin for V2.1 w/o rework. But

[vdr] Standardized DVB signal info up for review!

2012-12-29 Thread VDR User
As many know, getting standardized dvb signal info in linux has been a want for a very long time for a lot of users (and developers). There has been several talks/threads about it but nothing was ever merged. The subject has come up once again and Mauro has posted a patch for review. I know that

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Udo Richter
Am 28.12.2012 16:38, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: So should we go back to the Makefiles of version 1.7.33 and declare this area of the program source untouchable forever? Beside all the current whining (and *I* don't exclude myself from that), it is nevertheless a step in the right direction.

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Christopher Reimer
2012/12/29 Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de: Even if there was an thread in vdr-portal, I did miss it, and there was no word of it in the mailing list, which I always considered to be the central spot of development. Really? http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2012-November/026813.html There was NO

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Joerg Bornkessel
OK. 50 plugins doesn't sound impossible to deal with. But they have to be in one place, as Manuel mentioned. Name these 50 unmaintained plugins and then we can check when and how they'll be moved to vdr-developer.org. there is a small list, ~30 plugins on

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread fnu
von Christopher Reimer c.reimer1...@gmail.com Yes, I am happy with the new makefiles. I'm glad to hear this, but what about all the other developers and users? Developer version back and forth, VDR 1.7.xx has become silently a somewhat stable version over the years, due to it's HDTV

Re: [vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

2012-12-29 Thread Gero
On Saturday 29 December 2012 - 18:39:05, fnu wrote: .. or maybe an in between stable release called V1.8 and go ahead with these important changes in V1.9 ... just a thought ... +1 Gero ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org