[vdr] 2GB file sizes and cutting recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Florian Gleixner
Hi,

i use dvbcut to cut my recordings. After cutting i can rename the
resulting mpg file to 001.vdr, delete the index file and run genindex
and then i have a perfect cutted recording. This works well for all
recordings that are smaller than 2GB. If the file is  2GB, i tried to
concat the 001.vdr 002.vdr ... files and use dvbcut to make a new
001.vdr. Unfortunately vdr does not like files  2GB. But i also canot
use split -b 2097152000 to make new vdr files, because it would not
split at GOP. Or is that not needed?

It would be easier if vdr could handle files  2GB - and tools like
genindex too. Handling these files for playback would be enough for me.

Or is there another preferred method cutting files? I dont want to use
vdrs cutter because my remote does not really work well and i read that
i can only cut every iframe. dvbcuts sliders are really easy to handle :-)

Thanks!

Flo


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Re: [vdr] 2GB file sizes and cutting recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Florian Gleixner
Hi,

Thanks for your answer, but i need larger files, not smaller files. I'd 
like to have every recording each in one file, even if the file would be 
10GB or larger.

Flo

Halim Sahin wrote:
 Hi,
 Sorry not vdr.conf 
 You can change the vallue in menu-settings-recording or in setup.conf
 HTH.
 Halim
 
 
 
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Re: [vdr] 2GB file sizes and cutting recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Florian Gleixner
Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote:
 On 16.03.2008 17:55, Florian Gleixner wrote:
 Hi,

 i use dvbcut to cut my recordings. After cutting i can rename the
 resulting mpg file to 001.vdr, delete the index file and run genindex
 and then i have a perfect cutted recording. This works well for all
 recordings that are smaller than 2GB. If the file is  2GB, i tried to
 concat the 001.vdr 002.vdr ... files and use dvbcut to make a new
 001.vdr. Unfortunately vdr does not like files  2GB. But i also canot
 use split -b 2097152000 to make new vdr files, because it would not
 split at GOP. Or is that not needed?

 It would be easier if vdr could handle files  2GB - and tools like
 genindex too. Handling these files for playback would be enough for me.

 Or is there another preferred method cutting files? I dont want to use
 vdrs cutter because my remote does not really work well and i read that
 i can only cut every iframe. dvbcuts sliders are really easy to handle :-)
 
 The core problem is index.vdr
 
 The field for offset into the ???.vdr-file is 32bit i.e. 4GB max. Don't 
 remember if it is used signed (which reduces it to effectivly 2GB) or 
 for 'good measure', but that's the reason for the 2GB limit per file.
 
 This has been discusses several times in the past and Klaus doesn't want 
 to (backward incompatible) change the format of index.vdr.
 
 So for short: Larger than 2GB is a no go.
 
 

Thanks, its now clearer to me. So the question is: if i use split -b 
... to split the files, i surely don't split at a iframe. Is this a 
problem?
I also found out, that i probably can use genindex -r after using dvbcut 
to generate vdr compatible files. It seems to split at a iframe.
2GB are small files nowaday. vdr should be probably able to replay 
bigger files even if there is no index file? But that has Klaus to 
decide i think.

Flo

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Re: [vdr] 2GB file sizes and cutting recordings

2008-03-16 Thread Florian Gleixner
Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote:
 
 For me personally playbackability with VDR was never a priority.
 
 I've been using VDR for recording since Oktober 2000, back then i had to 
 write my own cutting scripts, since VDR didn't had the cutting function 
 until later. A few month later i began writing my Master-Timer. VDR has 
 been the recording slave ever since. ;-)
 
 Since 2003 i use vdrsync/tcmplex for the actual cutting (As it 
 demultiplexes and remultiplexes the recording, i.e. it verifies that the 
 recording is good(tm)) to single .mpg-files which i than watch  
 archive.
 
 Mostly i playback at my computer, especially since i bought a 1920x1200 
 24 TFT a few month back, but for TV playback i also have a Pinnacle 
 Showcenter 200. I only use VDR playback to cut music-videos (or to find 
 the beginning of a song i want to cut out, to be more precise), that's 
 the only playback related feature where VDR excels anything else i have 
 tried.
 
 Over the years i've recorded more than 13.000 broadcasts, stored on 55 
 HDDs with a total capacity of 20 TB. ;-)
 

For me playbackability with VDR is really needed. I like dvbcut more 
than vdrsync because with the linear/logarithmic sliders you can really 
easy find start and end of ads or similar.

20TB. That would be more than 5000 single layer DVDs. What a mess. HDs 
are much easier to handle. But i really dont want to have 13000 
recordings! Have fun.

Flo


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