Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-29 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Timothy D. Lenz may or may not have written... My local stations here in the US are doing the reverse on all primary atsc channels. They add bars to the side for anything that is not wide screen to make it wide screen. So 4:3 stuff on my 4:3 tv are in a little window because the

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-29 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Simon Baxter may or may not have written... [snip] I'm using vdr-xine, but as I have 2x DVB-C cards also there's only about 5 channels which I receive via the PVR-500. I could change the aspect in xine, but it would change it for ALL channels wouldn't it? For DVB,

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-29 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
That might explain the option to let program pick on our converter boxes. But it only sometimes works on PBS. Sooo, guess that's another standard they decided not to use. On 4/29/2010 9:42 AM, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Timothy D. Lenz may or may not have written... My local stations

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Dauskardt
From: Simon Baxter linu...@nzbaxters.com Subject: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars Hi Everyone My machine has (among others) a PVR-500 dual-channel analog card and I'm running vdr-1.6.0 with pvrinput-2008-07-05. you should upgrade to our new pvrinput version: http

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Baxter
you should upgrade to our new pvrinput version: http://projects.vdr-developer.org/attachments/download/288/vdr- pvrinput-2010-04-14.tgz see http://projects.vdr-developer.org/repositories/entry/plg-pvrinput/HISTORY I am pretty sure that your TV station broadcasts analogue TV not anamorphic,

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Martin Dauskardt md...@gmx.de wrote: Doesn't matter which aspect ratio I choose, every channel under the PVR-500 displays with black (cinema) bars on the top and bottom of the image. I am pretty sure that your TV station broadcasts analogue TV not anamorphic,

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:27:18 -0700 VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Martin Dauskardt md...@gmx.de wrote: The driver does not support clipping/cropping. We will always encode the whole capture size. If there is already a bar, it will also be in the

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
My local stations here in the US are doing the reverse on all primary atsc channels. They add bars to the side for anything that is not wide screen to make it wide screen. So 4:3 stuff on my 4:3 tv are in a little window because the software then adds bars top and bottom to put it back to 4:3

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Dauskardt
From: VDR User user@gmail.com Subject: Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars I am pretty sure that your TV station broadcasts analogue TV not anamorphic, which means it delivers the black bars to prevent the aspect ?ratio of a 16:9 content. The 'black bars' are called

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Dauskardt md...@gmx.de wrote: The mpeg is not delivered by the broadcaster, it is generated by the encoder. The content of the header is a result of the V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_ASPECT setting done by the application. If the aspect ratio flag is unreliable,

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Rob Davis
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Dauskardt md...@gmx.de wrote: The mpeg is not delivered by the broadcaster, it is generated by the encoder. The content of the header is a result of the V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_ASPECT setting done by the application. If the aspect ratio flag is

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Rob Davis r...@davis-family.info wrote: Except this is an input device, not an output device.  It converts an analogue signal to mpeg2, as such, it needs to make guesses about what it's going to find.. Ahh, analog source encoding. There won't be any mpeg

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Baxter
You _could_ write some functions to detect and remove letterboxing, though I don't know anyone motivated enough to actually do it. The main goal of the pvrinput-plugin is to use the hardware encoder.I think it is a bad idea to do software-based on-the-fly-recoding. Simon, which output device

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and black/cinema bars

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Baxter
If you want to limit the plugin to using only the hardware then I agree. However, if you want to provide capabilities beyond what the hardware is capable of then software is the only other place to do it. This is perfectly fine, although it probably means the user wasted his money on a hardware