Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-29 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
That might explain the option to "let program pick" on our converter boxes. But it only sometimes works on PBS. Sooo, guess that's another standard they decided not to use. On 4/29/2010 9:42 AM, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Timothy D. Lenz may or may not have written... My local stations

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-29 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Simon Baxter may or may not have written... [snip] > I'm using vdr-xine, but as I have 2x DVB-C cards also there's only about 5 > channels which I receive via the PVR-500. I could change the aspect in > xine, but it would change it for ALL channels wouldn't it? For DVB, http://xine

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-29 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Timothy D. Lenz may or may not have written... > My local stations here in the US are doing the reverse on all primary atsc > channels. They add bars to the side for anything that is not wide screen to > make it wide screen. So 4:3 stuff on my 4:3 tv are in a little window > because

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Baxter
If you want to limit the plugin to using only the hardware then I agree. However, if you want to provide capabilities beyond what the hardware is capable of then software is the only other place to do it. This is perfectly fine, although it probably means the user wasted his money on a hardware d

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Baxter
You _could_ write some functions to detect and remove letterboxing, though I don't know anyone motivated enough to actually do it. The main goal of the pvrinput-plugin is to use the hardware encoder.I think it is a bad idea to do software-based on-the-fly-recoding. Simon, which output device

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Rob Davis wrote: > Except this is an input device, not an output device.  It converts an > analogue signal to mpeg2, as such, it needs to make guesses about what > it's going to find.. Ahh, analog source & encoding. There won't be any mpeg headers and so on from

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Rob Davis
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Dauskardt wrote: >> The mpeg is not delivered by the broadcaster, it is generated by the >> encoder. >> The content of the header is a result of the V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_ASPECT >> setting done by the application. > > If the aspect ratio flag is unreliable,

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Dauskardt wrote: > The mpeg is not delivered by the broadcaster, it is generated by the encoder. > The content of the header is a result of the V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_ASPECT > setting done by the application. If the aspect ratio flag is unreliable, again, you

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Dauskardt
> From: VDR User > Subject: Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars" > > I am pretty sure that your TV station broadcasts analogue TV not > > anamorphic, which means it "delivers" the black bars to prevent the > > aspect ?ratio of a 16

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
My local stations here in the US are doing the reverse on all primary atsc channels. They add bars to the side for anything that is not wide screen to make it wide screen. So 4:3 stuff on my 4:3 tv are in a little window because the software then adds bars top and bottom to put it back to 4:3 :

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:27:18 -0700 VDR User wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Martin Dauskardt > wrote: > > The driver does not support clipping/cropping. We will always encode > > the whole capture size. If there is already a bar, it will also be > > in the encoded stream. You could tr

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Martin Dauskardt wrote: >> Doesn't matter which aspect ratio I choose, every channel under the PVR-500 >> displays with black (cinema) bars on the top and bottom of the image. > > I am pretty sure that your TV station broadcasts analogue TV not anamorphic, > which

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Baxter
you should upgrade to our new pvrinput version: http://projects.vdr-developer.org/attachments/download/288/vdr- pvrinput-2010-04-14.tgz see http://projects.vdr-developer.org/repositories/entry/plg-pvrinput/HISTORY I am pretty sure that your TV station broadcasts analogue TV not anamorphic, wh

Re: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Dauskardt
> From: "Simon Baxter" > Subject: [vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars" > > Hi Everyone > > My machine has (among others) a PVR-500 dual-channel analog card and I'm > running vdr-1.6.0 with pvrinput-2008-07-05. you should upgrade to

[vdr] PVRINPUT plugin and "black/cinema bars"

2010-04-25 Thread Simon Baxter
Hi Everyone My machine has (among others) a PVR-500 dual-channel analog card and I'm running vdr-1.6.0 with pvrinput-2008-07-05. Doesn't matter which aspect ratio I choose, every channel under the PVR-500 displays with black (cinema) bars on the top and bottom of the image. Plugin setup is