Re: [vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording

2012-02-23 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 23.02.2012 06:47, Heikki Manninen wrote:

Hello, here's my current setup:

1 x Satelco DVB-C Budget with CI + CAM (Conax CIv1)
1 x Satelco DVB-C Bidget wuthout CI

When recording FTA channels VDR seems to sometimes select the one adapter with 
CI. It would make sense to always try to use non-CI equipped adapter for these 
recordings leaving the one with CI free for live viewing/recording encrypted 
channels.

Any way to achieve this through configuration?


Actually VDR is supposed to avoid devices with CI for FTA recordings:

  imp = 1; imp |= NumUsableSlots ? 0 : device[i]-HasCi(); // avoid cards 
with Common Interface for FTA channels

If this doesn't work on your system, you may want to debug the function

  cDevice::GetDevice(const cChannel *Channel, int Priority, bool LiveView)

to see why it selects sich a device when it shouldn't.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording

2012-02-23 Thread Heikki Manninen
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:26, Klaus Schmidinger
klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote:

 On 23.02.2012 06:47, Heikki Manninen wrote:

 Hello, here's my current setup:

 1 x Satelco DVB-C Budget with CI + CAM (Conax CIv1)
 1 x Satelco DVB-C Bidget wuthout CI

 When recording FTA channels VDR seems to sometimes select the one adapter
 with CI. It would make sense to always try to use non-CI equipped adapter
 for these recordings leaving the one with CI free for live viewing/recording
 encrypted channels.

 Any way to achieve this through configuration?


 Actually VDR is supposed to avoid devices with CI for FTA recordings:

  imp = 1; imp |= NumUsableSlots ? 0 : device[i]-HasCi(); // avoid cards
 with Common Interface for FTA channels

 If this doesn't work on your system, you may want to debug the function

  cDevice::GetDevice(const cChannel *Channel, int Priority, bool LiveView)

 to see why it selects sich a device when it shouldn't.

Ok, will do.

Before I had a CI with both Satelco cards but only one of them had the
actual CAM installed. Would that have caused problems?

Could it be that if the other card is busy doing live viewing or
transponder scanning, VDR selects the CI-enabled device for recording?
I would still prefer the non-CI device even if it would cause retuning
of the channel that is being viewed.


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Re: [vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording

2012-02-23 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 23.02.2012 10:21, Heikki Manninen wrote:

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:26, Klaus Schmidinger
klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de  wrote:


On 23.02.2012 06:47, Heikki Manninen wrote:


Hello, here's my current setup:

1 x Satelco DVB-C Budget with CI + CAM (Conax CIv1)
1 x Satelco DVB-C Bidget wuthout CI

When recording FTA channels VDR seems to sometimes select the one adapter
with CI. It would make sense to always try to use non-CI equipped adapter
for these recordings leaving the one with CI free for live viewing/recording
encrypted channels.

Any way to achieve this through configuration?



Actually VDR is supposed to avoid devices with CI for FTA recordings:

  imp= 1; imp |= NumUsableSlots ? 0 : device[i]-HasCi(); // avoid cards
with Common Interface for FTA channels

If this doesn't work on your system, you may want to debug the function

  cDevice::GetDevice(const cChannel *Channel, int Priority, bool LiveView)

to see why it selects sich a device when it shouldn't.


Ok, will do.

Before I had a CI with both Satelco cards but only one of them had the
actual CAM installed. Would that have caused problems?


I don't think so.


Could it be that if the other card is busy doing live viewing or
transponder scanning, VDR selects the CI-enabled device for recording?
I would still prefer the non-CI device even if it would cause retuning
of the channel that is being viewed.


Live viewing should not stop VDR from using a device that has a CI for
recording an FTA channel. However, if there is a cReceiver attached to
the on-CI device for any reason, that might keep it from being used.

Just check what's actually happening in the GetDevice() function.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording

2012-02-23 Thread Claus-Peter Behrens


- Original Message - 
From: Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de

To: vdr@linuxtv.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording



On 23.02.2012 10:21, Heikki Manninen wrote:

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:26, Klaus Schmidinger
klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de  wrote:


On 23.02.2012 06:47, Heikki Manninen wrote:


Hello, here's my current setup:

1 x Satelco DVB-C Budget with CI + CAM (Conax CIv1)
1 x Satelco DVB-C Bidget wuthout CI

When recording FTA channels VDR seems to sometimes select the one 
adapter
with CI. It would make sense to always try to use non-CI equipped 
adapter
for these recordings leaving the one with CI free for live 
viewing/recording

encrypted channels.

Any way to achieve this through configuration?



Actually VDR is supposed to avoid devices with CI for FTA recordings:

  imp= 1; imp |= NumUsableSlots ? 0 : device[i]-HasCi(); // avoid 
cards

with Common Interface for FTA channels

If this doesn't work on your system, you may want to debug the function

  cDevice::GetDevice(const cChannel *Channel, int Priority, bool 
LiveView)


to see why it selects sich a device when it shouldn't.


Ok, will do.

Before I had a CI with both Satelco cards but only one of them had the
actual CAM installed. Would that have caused problems?


I don't think so.


Could it be that if the other card is busy doing live viewing or
transponder scanning, VDR selects the CI-enabled device for recording?
I would still prefer the non-CI device even if it would cause retuning
of the channel that is being viewed.


Live viewing should not stop VDR from using a device that has a CI for
recording an FTA channel. However, if there is a cReceiver attached to
the on-CI device for any reason, that might keep it from being used.

Just check what's actually happening in the GetDevice() function.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording

2012-02-23 Thread Udo Richter
Am 23.02.2012 10:30, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
 Just check what's actually happening in the GetDevice() function.

... and try with minimal plugins, they might introduce side effects.
OSDTeletext for example is known to have such side effects on device
selection.

Cheers,

Udo


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[vdr] Prefer non-CI equipped adapters for FTA channel recording

2012-02-22 Thread Heikki Manninen
Hello, here's my current setup:

1 x Satelco DVB-C Budget with CI + CAM (Conax CIv1)
1 x Satelco DVB-C Bidget wuthout CI

When recording FTA channels VDR seems to sometimes select the one adapter with 
CI. It would make sense to always try to use non-CI equipped adapter for these 
recordings leaving the one with CI free for live viewing/recording encrypted 
channels.

Any way to achieve this through configuration?


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Heikki Manninen
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