Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread BoNuZZZ
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Lars Olsson  wrote:
>
>
> 2008/12/12 Magnus Hörlin 
>>
>> > >
>> > > That's what I have done. I've written a little script which is called
>> > > from the XBMC scripts section. It basicly starts vdr-sxfe and kills
>> > > xbmc. After exiting vdr-sxfe xbmc is started again. VDR is running in
>> > > the background connected with my server in the basement through
>> > > streamdev. This solution works very good for me.
>> >
>> > In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry,
>> > that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to
>> > support OSD transmission.
>> >
>> > Joerg
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>> I see no reason to use xbmc as vdr frontend. Personally I use lirc/irexec
>> to
>> switch between vdr-sxfe and xbmc. The "DVD Player" button switches to
>> xbmc,
>> and "Live TV" or "Recorded TV" for vdr-sxfe. As for startup times, my
>> clients use 28-30W and have no fans or hdd's so I have them on 24/7. At
>> least during Swedish winter a have use for them anyway...
>> /Magnus H
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> Are there any guides on how to set up a enviorment like this?
>
> regards,
> lars
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Yes, xbmc has plugin for using vdr.
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=36988
But it has some requiments and limitations and I dont whether it works
with hd channels.

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread BoNuZZZ
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Nicolas Huillard  wrote:
> BoNuZZZ a écrit :
>> Can I start vdr and xineliboutput separately? For example, vdr starts
>> when computer is on, so it works always. But xinelibout is starting
>> when I close xbmc.
>
> Yes. You run the plugin in VDR, with no local front-end. You then launch
> vdr-sxfe (X) or vdr-fbfe (DirectFB) front-end on the machine when you
> want to display VDR output.
> VDR runs as a headless daemon. A single vdr-??fe can connect to the
> xineliboutput plugin at the same time.
>
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I think about using vdr and xineliboutput on the same computer without
any tcp connections, but with starting not at once.

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Lars Olsson
2008/12/12 Magnus Hörlin 

> > >
> > > That's what I have done. I've written a little script which is called
> > > from the XBMC scripts section. It basicly starts vdr-sxfe and kills
> > > xbmc. After exiting vdr-sxfe xbmc is started again. VDR is running in
> > > the background connected with my server in the basement through
> > > streamdev. This solution works very good for me.
> >
> > In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry,
> > that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to
> > support OSD transmission.
> >
> > Joerg
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>
> I see no reason to use xbmc as vdr frontend. Personally I use lirc/irexec
> to
> switch between vdr-sxfe and xbmc. The "DVD Player" button switches to xbmc,
> and "Live TV" or "Recorded TV" for vdr-sxfe. As for startup times, my
> clients use 28-30W and have no fans or hdd's so I have them on 24/7. At
> least during Swedish winter a have use for them anyway...
> /Magnus H
>
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Are there any guides on how to set up a enviorment like this?

regards,
lars
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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Nicolas Huillard
BoNuZZZ a écrit :
> Can I start vdr and xineliboutput separately? For example, vdr starts
> when computer is on, so it works always. But xinelibout is starting
> when I close xbmc.

Yes. You run the plugin in VDR, with no local front-end. You then launch 
vdr-sxfe (X) or vdr-fbfe (DirectFB) front-end on the machine when you 
want to display VDR output.
VDR runs as a headless daemon. A single vdr-??fe can connect to the 
xineliboutput plugin at the same time.

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread BoNuZZZ
Can I start vdr and xineliboutput separately? For example, vdr starts
when computer is on, so it works always. But xinelibout is starting
when I close xbmc.

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Helmut Auer

>
> Anyone using VDR together with Freevo?
>
> It assumes VDR is run headless in the background with softdevice or
>
> xineliboutput or vdr-xine plugin...
>
>   
Sure - thats the default Gen2VDR installation :)

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread pio





On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:54:35 +0100, Jörg Knitter 

wrote:

> Niko Ringelstein wrote:

>> Jörg Knitter wrote:

>>> In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry, 

>>> that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to 

>>> support OSD transmission.

>>>

>>> Joerg

>>> 

>>

>> As far as I know it connects via streamdev-client.

>>

> Then, IMHO the OSD would be missing and the switch time would be longer 

> - that´s why I ask. So I assume that he is using sxfe-vdr...

> 

> Joerg

> 



Anyone using VDR together with Freevo?

It assumes VDR is run headless in the background with softdevice or

xineliboutput or vdr-xine plugin...



When user selects VDR from Freevo menu it will just launch softdevice

frontend and disconnect Freevo from LIRC (via Freevo plugin).

When you close softdevice screen, it disconnects VDR from the LIRC (there

is a special SVDR command for it).



Probably something similar is used with XMBC.



Piotr



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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Niko Ringelstein

Jörg Knitter schrieb:

Niko Ringelstein wrote:
  

Jörg Knitter wrote:

In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry, 
that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to 
support OSD transmission.


Joerg

  

As far as I know it connects via streamdev-client.


Then, IMHO the OSD would be missing and the switch time would be longer 
- that´s why I ask. So I assume that he is using sxfe-vdr...


Joerg

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I meant the plugin connects via stramdev, he is using vdr-sxfe or 
softdevice!


Probably the best solution would be a xbmc plugin using the vompserver 
protocol. I am no coder, but there already exists qtvomp which maybe 
could be used somehow. vomp is working very well for me on a nomal tv 
with a mediamvp but i don't want to use it with my flatscreen because it 
only has rgb out, no hdmi.


Niko
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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Jörg Knitter
Niko Ringelstein wrote:
> Jörg Knitter wrote:
>> In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry, 
>> that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to 
>> support OSD transmission.
>>
>> Joerg
>> 
>
> As far as I know it connects via streamdev-client.
>
Then, IMHO the OSD would be missing and the switch time would be longer 
- that´s why I ask. So I assume that he is using sxfe-vdr...

Joerg

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Magnus Hörlin
> >
> > That's what I have done. I've written a little script which is called
> > from the XBMC scripts section. It basicly starts vdr-sxfe and kills
> > xbmc. After exiting vdr-sxfe xbmc is started again. VDR is running in
> > the background connected with my server in the basement through
> > streamdev. This solution works very good for me.
> 
> In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry,
> that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to
> support OSD transmission.
> 
> Joerg
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I see no reason to use xbmc as vdr frontend. Personally I use lirc/irexec to
switch between vdr-sxfe and xbmc. The "DVD Player" button switches to xbmc,
and "Live TV" or "Recorded TV" for vdr-sxfe. As for startup times, my
clients use 28-30W and have no fans or hdd's so I have them on 24/7. At
least during Swedish winter a have use for them anyway...
/Magnus H



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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Niko Ringelstein

Jörg Knitter schrieb:

Niko Ringelstein wrote:
  

Jörg Knitter wrote:


Goga777 wrote:
  
  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8

here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 

  

Maybe this is a trivial question, but how does he switch between XBMC 
and VDR? 

I have read (and thought) about some little script that switches between 
XBMC and VDR, and there was one solution mentioned here using LIRC. But 
the way it is shown on the video it look like a "real" integration.



  
That's what I have done. I've written a little script which is called 
from the XBMC scripts section. It basicly starts vdr-sxfe and kills 
xbmc. After exiting vdr-sxfe xbmc is started again. VDR is running in 
the background connected with my server in the basement through 
streamdev. This solution works very good for me.



In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry, 
that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to 
support OSD transmission.


Joerg

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As far as I know it connects via streamdev-client.

Concerning the mainmenu entry, I don't know the skin he is using. It 
might be a favourite entry, that's what I use in the PM3HD skin.


Niko

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Jörg Knitter
Niko Ringelstein wrote:
> Jörg Knitter wrote:
>> Goga777 wrote:
>>   
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8
>>>
>>> here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 
>>>
>>>   
>> Maybe this is a trivial question, but how does he switch between XBMC 
>> and VDR? 
>>
>> I have read (and thought) about some little script that switches between 
>> XBMC and VDR, and there was one solution mentioned here using LIRC. But 
>> the way it is shown on the video it look like a "real" integration.
>>
>> 
>
>
> That's what I have done. I've written a little script which is called 
> from the XBMC scripts section. It basicly starts vdr-sxfe and kills 
> xbmc. After exiting vdr-sxfe xbmc is started again. VDR is running in 
> the background connected with my server in the basement through 
> streamdev. This solution works very good for me.

In the video, it looks like the the user is using a main menu entry, 
that why I wondered, because the XBMC VDR plugin does not seem to 
support OSD transmission.

Joerg

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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Niko Ringelstein

Jörg Knitter schrieb:

Goga777 schrieb:
  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8

here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 


Goga

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Maybe this is a trivial question, but how does he switch between XBMC 
and VDR? AFAIK there is no XBMC mailing list, and I did not find the 
time to take a closer look in the forums...
I have read (and thought) about some little script that switches between 
XBMC and VDR, and there was one solution mentioned here using LIRC. But 
the way it is shown on the video it look like a "real" integration.


And why does the VDR state "press any key to cancel shutdown"? I thought 
that VDR should be running all the time in the background...


Currently, I use the tv-out of the gfx card for XBMC and the tv-out of 
my FF for VDR, switching simply by selecting a different video input on 
my amplifier, but with HD, the FF might replaced within the next 12 months.


With kind regards

Joerg Knitter


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Hello!

That's what I have done. I've written a little script which is called 
from the XBMC scripts section. It basicly starts vdr-sxfe and kills 
xbmc. After exiting vdr-sxfe xbmc is started again. VDR is running in 
the background connected with my server in the basement through 
streamdev. This solution works very good for me.


Greetings
Niko
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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Jörg Knitter
Goga777 schrieb:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8
>
> here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 
>
> Goga
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Maybe this is a trivial question, but how does he switch between XBMC 
and VDR? AFAIK there is no XBMC mailing list, and I did not find the 
time to take a closer look in the forums...
I have read (and thought) about some little script that switches between 
XBMC and VDR, and there was one solution mentioned here using LIRC. But 
the way it is shown on the video it look like a "real" integration.

And why does the VDR state "press any key to cancel shutdown"? I thought 
that VDR should be running all the time in the background...

Currently, I use the tv-out of the gfx card for XBMC and the tv-out of 
my FF for VDR, switching simply by selecting a different video input on 
my amplifier, but with HD, the FF might replaced within the next 12 months.

With kind regards

Joerg Knitter


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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Hendrik Müller
But Suspend-to-RAM (S3) should work under Ubuntu? Or not?


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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8
> here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 

1:30 to boot.. :)


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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread Gerald Dachs
Quoting jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com:

>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8
>> here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr
>
> 1:30 to boot.. :)
>

My own "integration" needs 0:15 :( , but I am working on it.

Gerald


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Re: [vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-12 Thread jori.hamalainen

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8
> here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 

1:30 to boot.. :)


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[vdr] XBMC + VDR 1.7.0

2008-12-11 Thread Goga777
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cl70fq7sn8

here's you can have a look on xbmc and integrated in it vdr 

Goga

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