Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Tony Houghton]

Sorry about my other reply which I accidentally sent without editing.

VDR User wrote:
> On 3/15/07, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Absolutely, since (if this insanity really happens) it means that
>> projects like VDR are effectively dead in the water :(
>
> Why do you believe that?
>
> Personally, I don't think there's any need for panic.  Too much money
> involved.  How many times has something been the threat to end it all,
> only to wind up a fizzling dud?  Take these things with a grain of
> salt.

The trouble is such a thing really has happened to MS Windows. If the
MPAA are powerful enough to force Microsoft to cripple Vista they can do
it to DVB too. OTOH maybe Microsoft didn't take any forcing as they're
part of the same electronic publishing axis of evil, and can make
Windows as awful as they like because of their virtual monopoly. Here in
the UK I'm sure Sky TV would be thoroughly in favour of DRM etc.

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Tony Houghton]

VDR User wrote:

On 3/15/07, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Absolutely, since (if this insanity really happens) it means that
projects like VDR are effectively dead in the water :(


Why do you believe that?

Personally, I don't think there's any need for panic.  Too much money
involved.  How many times has something been the threat to end it all,
only to wind up a fizzling dud?  Take these things with a grain of
salt.

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Yvan]

Hello.

Thanks a lot to Erik for this info (I have forwarded to news french site, 
because, I live in France :), so .. )

An offtopic message is not inevitably a spam,
in my humble opinion.
A real name, or a pseudo is better that an unix current user I think, that's 
all.
And god is Klaus, here ;) .

Dead in water ?
No.., we don't, we are the custumer at the end of the chain, so..
(not Micro-bidule, no black-box, never, never ;) )

But there are industrial project that's need more publicity...,
(I think to the dead TCPA/Palladium chips in the past, but I'm not up to date 
on it. ).

Regards.

Yvan.

Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 09:51, Erik Tjernlund a écrit :
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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[VDR User]

On 3/15/07, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Absolutely, since (if this insanity really happens) it means that
projects like VDR are effectively dead in the water :(


Why do you believe that?

Personally, I don't think there's any need for panic.  Too much money
involved.  How many times has something been the threat to end it all,
only to wind up a fizzling dud?  Take these things with a grain of
salt.

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Chris Jones]

Hi

Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> IMHO this was a valuable piece of information

Absolutely, since (if this insanity really happens) it means that
projects like VDR are effectively dead in the water :(

I find it hard to believe that TV networks will be happy with
invalidating every piece of DVB hardware sold to date (and selling now),
but it will all come down to how much pressure MPAA and friends can
bring to bear on them.

Cheers,
-- 
Chris Jones
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   www.tenshu.net

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Klaus Schmidinger]

Carsten Koch wrote:
> Dear "VDR User",
> 
> VDR User wrote:
>> I'm sure your heart is in the right place but please don't start using
>> the mailing list to spam news.
> 
> I am aware of two conventions on the VDR mailing list:
> 
> 1) Use your real name to post.
> 2) Post in plain ASCII.
> 
> I am not aware of a convention that discourages DVB/VDR-related news.
> Is there one?
> Klaus?

IMHO this was a valuable piece of information, so I don't mind
that it was posted here.

I, too, appreciate if people use their real name in postings, though ;-)
And posting in HTML is a no-no to me, too.

But let's stop with the flaming here.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[VDR User]

On 3/14/07, Carsten Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am aware of two conventions on the VDR mailing list:

1) Use your real name to post.
2) Post in plain ASCII.

I am not aware of a convention that discourages DVB/VDR-related news.
Is there one?
Klaus?


Why are you so concerned with my "real name"?  Anyone can use any name
they want in their email address therefore being so worried about
someones "real" name is rather silly.  Do I know "Carsten Koch" is
your real name?  No.  Do I even care?  No.

I didn't notice my editor was somehow switched to richtext format,
which I have since switched back.  For future reference, if don't like
html email then simply turn it off or filter it in your email client.
Then you don't have to worry about it.

And lastly, those links are not vdr-related news, hence why the poster
clearly put "OFFTOPIC" in the subject.  So like I said, let's not make
it a habit of using the mailing list to spam non-vdr content...

Thanks.

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Carsten Koch]

Dear "VDR User",

VDR User wrote:
> I'm sure your heart is in the right place but please don't start using
> the mailing list to spam news.

I am aware of two conventions on the VDR mailing list:

1) Use your real name to post.
2) Post in plain ASCII.

I am not aware of a convention that discourages DVB/VDR-related news.
Is there one?
Klaus?

Cheers,
Carsten.


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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Halim Sahin]

Hello,
I.ll be happy if you stop writing html-mails to this list!

> I'm sure your heart is in the right place but please don't start using the
> mailing list to spam news.
> 
> Thanks.

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Re: [vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[VDR User]

I'm sure your heart is in the right place but please don't start using the
mailing list to spam news.

Thanks.
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[vdr] (OFFTOPIC) "EFF reveals plot to cripple European television"

[Erik Tjernlund]

/Erik


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