Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-19 Thread JJussi
On Monday, 19. Novemberta 2007 16:56:14 Stefan Taferner wrote:

> You can change the A/V offset in xine.
> I sometimes hit the key by mistake ;-)

Yeah, you can do it at vdr's setup.. But then, tv-programs sound come too 
late..
So, how to set it only for x264 files?

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Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-19 Thread Stefan Taferner
On Sonntag, 18. November 2007, JJussi wrote:
> On Sunday, 18. Novemberta 2007 18:26:21 Gregoire Favre wrote:
> > I think almost any PC with core duo 2 CPU are enough for perfect H.264
> > decoding...
>
> I have
> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15,
> Stepping: 6)
> and picture of "x264 recording VIDEO:  [avc1]  1280x720  24bpp  23.976 fps"
> is just perfect, but sound comes out  about 0,2 second too early with xine.

You can change the A/V offset in xine.
I sometimes hit the key by mistake ;-)

Kind regards,
Stefan

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Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-19 Thread Steffen Barszus
rjkm schrieb:
> Igor writes:
>  > > 
>  > > I have 
>  > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz (Family: 6, Model: 
> 15, 
>  > > Stepping: 6)
>  > > and picture of "x264 recording VIDEO:  [avc1]  1280x720  24bpp  23.976 
> fps" is 
>  > > just perfect, but sound comes out  about 0,2 second too early with xine.
>  > > 
>  > > With my other machine "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+" can not play 
> those 
>  > > file with-out heavy problems, totaly under power CPU for that kind of 
>  > > playback.
>  > 
>  > My friend has a configuration 
>  > 
>  > hard: Asus P35 + Intel 2160 @ 3GHz + 2GB ram (@800MHz) + SATA disk + 
> ATI2600XT 256MB + TT3200
>  > soft:
>  > debian testing (lenny) kernel 2.6.22-2-686
>  > V4L-dvb = Multiproto - 26.10.07
>  > xorg video driver = ati 8.41.7 (fglrx)
>  > 
>  > vdr 1.5.10 + vdr-1.5.10-dvbs2-h264-syncearly-framespersec.diff
>  > xine-0.8.0 plugin
>  > 
>  > ffmpeg-cvs from 08.11.2007
>  > xine-lib-1.2 from 8.11.07
>  > xine-ui from 8.11.07
>  > 
>  > and can see the h.264 dvb-s2 channels with average 60% CPU load.
>
> What kind of streams are these? What bitrate and resolution?
>
> For real comparisons we will need to specify the exact stream parameters. If
> sombody has some links to files, I can run tests on a decypher chip.
> Then we can compare that to the load on different CPUs.
>
>   
i would  really like to see this - allthough i can't help in finding 
files. Even a C2D + RAM +Video card @60% load for average TV viewing 
sounds crazy to me - so i would prefer HDe as well - as soon as it is 
available and some people are using it. At the moment with my CRT TV 
there is no real use for it anyway ;)

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Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-19 Thread Igor
> What kind of streams are these? What bitrate and resolution?

Astra 19,2E, the channel - Discovery HD, it has the largest bitrate from known 
- 
Min-Avg-Max kBit/s 8265-15597-20175
the current bitrate you can find here
http://www.linowsat.de/0192/24h/6/130.html
resolution - 1920x1080


> For real comparisons we will need to specify the exact stream parameters. If
> sombody has some links to files, I can run tests on a decypher chip.
> Then we can compare that to the load on different CPUs.


yes , it's very useful


Igor


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Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-19 Thread rjkm
Igor writes:
 > > 
 > > I have 
 > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz (Family: 6, Model: 
 > > 15, 
 > > Stepping: 6)
 > > and picture of "x264 recording VIDEO:  [avc1]  1280x720  24bpp  23.976 
 > > fps" is 
 > > just perfect, but sound comes out  about 0,2 second too early with xine.
 > > 
 > > With my other machine "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+" can not play 
 > > those 
 > > file with-out heavy problems, totaly under power CPU for that kind of 
 > > playback.
 > 
 > My friend has a configuration 
 > 
 > hard: Asus P35 + Intel 2160 @ 3GHz + 2GB ram (@800MHz) + SATA disk + 
 > ATI2600XT 256MB + TT3200
 > soft:
 > debian testing (lenny) kernel 2.6.22-2-686
 > V4L-dvb = Multiproto - 26.10.07
 > xorg video driver = ati 8.41.7 (fglrx)
 > 
 > vdr 1.5.10 + vdr-1.5.10-dvbs2-h264-syncearly-framespersec.diff
 > xine-0.8.0 plugin
 > 
 > ffmpeg-cvs from 08.11.2007
 > xine-lib-1.2 from 8.11.07
 > xine-ui from 8.11.07
 > 
 > and can see the h.264 dvb-s2 channels with average 60% CPU load.

What kind of streams are these? What bitrate and resolution?

For real comparisons we will need to specify the exact stream parameters. If
sombody has some links to files, I can run tests on a decypher chip.
Then we can compare that to the load on different CPUs.



Ralph


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Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-18 Thread Igor
> > I think almost any PC with core duo 2 CPU are enough for perfect H.264
> > decoding...
> 
> I have 
> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, 
> Stepping: 6)
> and picture of "x264 recording VIDEO:  [avc1]  1280x720  24bpp  23.976 fps" 
> is 
> just perfect, but sound comes out  about 0,2 second too early with xine.
> 
> With my other machine "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+" can not play those 
> file with-out heavy problems, totaly under power CPU for that kind of 
> playback.

My friend has a configuration 

hard: Asus P35 + Intel 2160 @ 3GHz + 2GB ram (@800MHz) + SATA disk + ATI2600XT 
256MB + TT3200
soft:
debian testing (lenny) kernel 2.6.22-2-686
V4L-dvb = Multiproto - 26.10.07
xorg video driver = ati 8.41.7 (fglrx)

vdr 1.5.10 + vdr-1.5.10-dvbs2-h264-syncearly-framespersec.diff
xine-0.8.0 plugin

ffmpeg-cvs from 08.11.2007
xine-lib-1.2 from 8.11.07
xine-ui from 8.11.07

and can see the h.264 dvb-s2 channels with average 60% CPU load.


Igor

 

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Re: [vdr] HD setup

2007-11-18 Thread JJussi
On Sunday, 18. Novemberta 2007 18:26:21 Gregoire Favre wrote:
> I think almost any PC with core duo 2 CPU are enough for perfect H.264
> decoding...

I have 
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, 
Stepping: 6)
and picture of "x264 recording VIDEO:  [avc1]  1280x720  24bpp  23.976 fps" is 
just perfect, but sound comes out  about 0,2 second too early with xine.

With my other machine "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+" can not play those 
file with-out heavy problems, totaly under power CPU for that kind of 
playback.

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[vdr] HD setup

2007-11-18 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello,

I know 720p, 1080p/i resolution are getting common which is fine.

>From the next feature thread I see there is some interest in H.264
channels :-)

I don't like the hardware decoder solution : Intel core duo 2 are really
cheap now and don't use that much power...

I built my VDR PC (in fact my only PC...) with such a solution (and a
fanless nvidia gfx card) and I find it perfectly suited for HD.
The most important part from my point of view was the case :
http://techgage.com/article/antec_p182_performance_mid-tower/

So that I don't have noise from the PC...

I think almost any PC with core duo 2 CPU are enough for perfect H.264
decoding...

I don't really like closed hardware solution neither...
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