Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-11 Thread Simon Baxter
>I am making some experiment with Oxine.
> I did also try Freevo. I find Oxine much lighter and much easier to
> configure.
>
> sp

Hi again.  I've now resolved my problems compiling oxine - the SF download 
now works for ver 0.7.1

Question now...

How do you do combined LIRC support for VDR within oxine?? 


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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-11 Thread Stephan Loescher
"Simon Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hi!

> How do I do this?  I've been looking at modifying xinitrc and xinitrc-common 
> to remove the desktop manager, but this seems a bit brutal.

I only use X without any desktop.
In my runvdr-script I do a "startx" with this ~/.xinitrc:

vdr-sxfe --lirc --fullscreen &
unclutter
exit 0

(I am using xineliboutput)

Stephan.

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-08 Thread Simon Baxter
> On Tuesday 08 April 2008, Simon Baxter wrote:
>
>> checking for cdio_open in -lcdio... no
>> configure: error: *** Please install libcdio first! ***
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] oxine]# rpm -qa | grep libcdio
>> libcdio-0.78.2-2.fc6
>
> yum install libcdio-devel

Ah idiot error!

Now I have a new error against both the current Oxine snapshot, and from svn

./autogen.sh --enable-vdr

checking for strrchr... yes
checking for strstr... yes
checking for strtol... yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in




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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-08 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tuesday 08 April 2008, Simon Baxter wrote:

> checking for cdio_open in -lcdio... no
> configure: error: *** Please install libcdio first! ***
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] oxine]# rpm -qa | grep libcdio
> libcdio-0.78.2-2.fc6

yum install libcdio-devel

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-08 Thread Simon Baxter
>I am making some experiment with Oxine.
> I did also try Freevo. I find Oxine much lighter and much easier to
> configure.
> 
> sp

I can't get oxine compiled -  get stuck at:

checking for cdio_open in -lcdio... no
configure: error: *** Please install libcdio first! ***

[EMAIL PROTECTED] oxine]# rpm -qa | grep libcdio
libcdio-0.78.2-2.fc6



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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-07 Thread serge pecher
I am making some experiment with Oxine.
I did also try Freevo. I find Oxine much lighter and much easier to
configure.

sp

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:51:42 +0200
From: Rob Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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NIVAL Micha?l wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With VDR-1.5.10 and cvs version plugins DVD, it is not possible to have
> audio.
> 
> The syslog shows:
> [4223] switching to pre 1.3.19 Dolby Digital compatibility mode
> 
> UseDolbyDigital is disabled.
> 
> The solution I have for the moment is to apply the patch that I put in
> attachment.
> 

Is this still an issue on 1.6.0?  I have just got a FF card working and 
thought I'd try DVD playback for the first time ever, however, I have no 
audio on the FF Scart output.

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Boguslaw Juza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  Hi
>
> Look at http://freevo.sourceforge.net/ - it is the frontend for home
> cinema linux PC. It starts Xserver itself, you don't need gdm, gnome
> etc... I'm using it and Im very glad :).
> I removed freevo TV config and I set xine for VDR as a "external command" 
> in freevo. It works nice and looks very good.

then you should have a look at the vdr plugin for freevo. It adds a
new "watch tv" menu entry and forwards key/lirc events to xine.

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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:22:53 +0200
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Petri Helin wrote:
> [...]
> start up a fluxbox session. The fluxbox session runs a start up script 
> which starts vdr-sxfe, which connect to the xineliboutput plugin.
> [...]
>   
One general question: Is vdr-sxfe reliable enough on 
bad-weather-conditions? I have played around last week with VDR-1.5.18 
and xineliboutputs internal display window, and it was rock-solid while 
in the past other solutions like xine or vdr-sxfe crashed if there was a 
bigger problem with the signal strength.
Or do you have implemented some kind of "keep vdr-sxfe 
alive"-functionality? Because having to start vdr-sxfe manually again is 
IMHO not really set-top-box-like... :)
On the other hand, I would prefer using vdr-sxfe instead of the internal 
x11 display because then I can release LIRC by shutting down vdr-sxfe 
e.g. if I want to use Elisa as second Media Center for playing back MP3s 
and videos in a more comfortable way than VDR can offer...

With kind regards

Joerg



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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:36:35 +0300
From: "Petri Helin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:22 PM, J?rg Knitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Petri Helin wrote:
>  > [...]
>
> > start up a fluxbox session. The fluxbox session runs a start up script
>  > which starts vdr-sxfe, which connect to the xineliboutput plugin.
>  > [...]
>  >
>  One general question: Is vdr-sxfe reliable enough on
>  bad-weather-conditions? I have played around last week with VDR-1.5.18
>  and xineliboutputs internal display window, and it was rock-solid while
>  in the past other solutions like xine or vdr-sxfe crash

Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-07 Thread syrius . ml
Jörg Knitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Petri Helin wrote:
>> [...]
>> start up a fluxbox session. The fluxbox session runs a start up script 
>> which starts vdr-sxfe, which connect to the xineliboutput plugin.
>> [...]
>>   
> One general question: Is vdr-sxfe reliable enough on 
> bad-weather-conditions? I have played around last week with VDR-1.5.18 
> and xineliboutputs internal display window, and it was rock-solid while 
> in the past other solutions like xine or vdr-sxfe crashed if there was a 
> bigger problem with the signal strength.

i also have issues with xine+xineliboutput on bad weather conditions.
You could always use a 'while xine "mrl"; do sleep 1; done" or use
init/upstart. (not appropriate, i read you need to quit vdr-sxfe
to release lirc)


> Or do you have implemented some kind of "keep vdr-sxfe 
> alive"-functionality? Because having to start vdr-sxfe manually again is 
> IMHO not really set-top-box-like... :)
> On the other hand, I would prefer using vdr-sxfe instead of the internal 
> x11 display because then I can release LIRC by shutting down vdr-sxfe 
> e.g. if I want to use Elisa as second Media Center for playing back MP3s 
> and videos in a more comfortable way than VDR can offer...

I use freevo 1.x
There's a plugin to integrate vdr with it.
In that case freevo is the media center for playing
video/music/etc... and it launches xine/vdr-sxfe when you want to
watch tv.

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-07 Thread Petri Helin
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Jörg Knitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Petri Helin wrote:
>  > [...]
>
> > start up a fluxbox session. The fluxbox session runs a start up script
>  > which starts vdr-sxfe, which connect to the xineliboutput plugin.
>  > [...]
>  >
>  One general question: Is vdr-sxfe reliable enough on
>  bad-weather-conditions? I have played around last week with VDR-1.5.18
>  and xineliboutputs internal display window, and it was rock-solid while
>  in the past other solutions like xine or vdr-sxfe crashed if there was a
>  bigger problem with the signal strength.
>  Or do you have implemented some kind of "keep vdr-sxfe
>  alive"-functionality? Because having to start vdr-sxfe manually again is
>  IMHO not really set-top-box-like... :)
>  On the other hand, I would prefer using vdr-sxfe instead of the internal
>  x11 display because then I can release LIRC by shutting down vdr-sxfe
>  e.g. if I want to use Elisa as second Media Center for playing back MP3s
>  and videos in a more comfortable way than VDR can offer...
>

What I have is vdr-sxfe starting with parameter "--reconnect", which
restarts vdr-sxfe in case the connection is lost. I have also set up
remote control so that it has buttons for calling scripts that stop
and start vdr-sxfe in case there is something wrong with it (quite
seldom nowadays, but some time ago it got stuck with some recordings).

-Petri

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-07 Thread Jörg Knitter
Petri Helin wrote:
> [...]
> start up a fluxbox session. The fluxbox session runs a start up script 
> which starts vdr-sxfe, which connect to the xineliboutput plugin.
> [...]
>   
One general question: Is vdr-sxfe reliable enough on 
bad-weather-conditions? I have played around last week with VDR-1.5.18 
and xineliboutputs internal display window, and it was rock-solid while 
in the past other solutions like xine or vdr-sxfe crashed if there was a 
bigger problem with the signal strength.
Or do you have implemented some kind of "keep vdr-sxfe 
alive"-functionality? Because having to start vdr-sxfe manually again is 
IMHO not really set-top-box-like... :)
On the other hand, I would prefer using vdr-sxfe instead of the internal 
x11 display because then I can release LIRC by shutting down vdr-sxfe 
e.g. if I want to use Elisa as second Media Center for playing back MP3s 
and videos in a more comfortable way than VDR can offer...

With kind regards

Joerg

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-07 Thread syrius . ml
Boguslaw Juza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  Hi
>
> Look at http://freevo.sourceforge.net/ - it is the frontend for home
> cinema linux PC. It starts Xserver itself, you don't need gdm, gnome
> etc... I'm using it and Im very glad :).
> I removed freevo TV config and I set xine for VDR as a "external command" 
> in freevo. It works nice and looks very good.

then you should have a look at the vdr plugin for freevo. It adds a
new "watch tv" menu entry and forwards key/lirc events to xine.

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Boguslaw Juza
 Hi

Look at http://freevo.sourceforge.net/ - it is the frontend for home
cinema linux PC. It starts Xserver itself, you don't need gdm, gnome
etc... I'm using it and Im very glad :).
I removed freevo TV config and I set xine for VDR as a "external command" 
in freevo. It works nice and looks very good.

  Boguslaw Juza


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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread JJussi
> To go back to the subject, gdm and kdm allow you to autologon an
> user. The next step would be to run vdr from .xsession for ex.

I use kdm and kde with autologon.. Starting "needed" stuff (like vdr-sxfe) in 
directory ."kde/Autostart/".
vdr-sxfe starts at first desktop in fullscreen mode and rest of programs (like 
web browser and few xTerms) at other virtual desktops..  So, when I need 
to "do something" with that computer (hey, it's HTPC not only VDR) I 
just "jump" to some virtual desktop to do.. When I jump back to desktop 1, I 
can continue with TV..

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Diego Pierotto




Simon Baxter ha scritto:

  
  
  
  Hi group
   
  My VDR box currently starts up like
a regular Fedora Core user, auto-logs-in and starts xine - much like I
expect most of you do.
   
  I'm looking for a way to make all
the X startup and log in invisible to the user.  This is where my
knowledge of X and gnome falls down.
   
  Ideally, once the initial kernel
messages have completed I'd like a VDR splash screen (maybe even a
progress bar) as things start up.
   
  How do I do this?  I've been looking
at modifying xinitrc and xinitrc-common to remove the desktop manager,
but this seems a bit brutal.
   
   
  Any ideas or thoughts?
   
  Thanks
  Simon
  

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What about using a frambuffer configuration as LinVDR do?
In that way you gotta wait for 20 seconds before the video appears on
the monitor and with autologon.

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Steffen Barszus
Seppo Ingalsuo schrieb:
> Here is something about my HTPC setup, hopefully  gives  some help or 
> food for thought to set up your system
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> To go back to the subject, gdm and kdm allow you to autologon an
>> user. The next step would be to run vdr from .xsession for ex.
>>   
>> 
> For gdm, add these lines to gdm.conf to login vdr automatically
>
> AutomaticLoginEnable=true
> AutomaticLogin=vdr
>
> I'm using vdr (sxfe frontend from xinelibout plugin, xine plugin can be 
> used identically) from Matchbox window manager. It provides user 
> experience kind between set top box and normal Linux desktop. All 
> applications are full-screen and all wm operations are possible from 
> keyboard that can be mapped to be controlled from lirc with irxevent. In 
> addition to vdr it's nice to run e.g. Google Earth for couch traveling 
> or Gcompris for kids. Those require a RF keyboard/mouse joystick for 
> controls.
>   

Sounds better than sxfe only without login

Regarding Fullfeatured card if i would have a LCD/TFT TV and would start 
now with vdr i would think hard about which way to go :)

Yours with the added value, possibility to run emulators, games 
etc   or having unproblematic and superb picture quality 
with the TT FF card (which got cheaper lately btw) (no hassle with 
deinterlace/scaling)
Guess this depends on the main use of the box - and if you want to go 
for hdtv 

Matchbox looks really interesting ! Looks like even a OnScreen Keyboard 
is included :) Why did i never heard about it before ?

:D

Steffen

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Petri Helin
Simon Baxter wrote:
> Hi group
>  
> My VDR box currently starts up like a regular Fedora Core user, 
> auto-logs-in and starts xine - much like I expect most of you do.
>  
> I'm looking for a way to make all the X startup and log in invisible to 
> the user.  This is where my knowledge of X and gnome falls down.
>  
> Ideally, once the initial kernel messages have completed I'd like a VDR 
> splash screen (maybe even a progress bar) as things start up.
>  
> How do I do this?  I've been looking at modifying xinitrc and 
> xinitrc-common to remove the desktop manager, but this seems a bit brutal.
>  
>  
> Any ideas or thoughts?
>  

I know my solution isn't optimal, but I think it is good enough for me 
and easy to set up: I run VDR as a daemon, which I start from an init 
script. Additionally I have set up kdm to autologon the vdr user and 
start up a fluxbox session. The fluxbox session runs a start up script 
which starts vdr-sxfe, which connect to the xineliboutput plugin.

It takes 20 seconds for the BIOS to do its thing and after another 15 
seconds VDR itself is up. Then it takes addional 20 seconds for the 
fluxbox to start (including Nvidia drivers and X) and the picture to 
appear. The BIOS step I cannot speed up without changing the motherboard 
and VDR starts quite fast too, but I think one might be able to shave 
some seconds off from the last step.

I have two ouput devices connected, a TV and a projector. I have added 
to VDR's commands menu entries for running a script, which stops kdm, 
switches to an alternative xorg.conf and restarts kdm. This way I can 
select the used output device from VDR, with the necessary resolution 
and refresh rate.

Hope this helps.

-Petri

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Here is something about my HTPC setup, hopefully  gives  some help or 
food for thought to set up your system

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To go back to the subject, gdm and kdm allow you to autologon an
> user. The next step would be to run vdr from .xsession for ex.
>   
For gdm, add these lines to gdm.conf to login vdr automatically

AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=vdr

I'm using vdr (sxfe frontend from xinelibout plugin, xine plugin can be 
used identically) from Matchbox window manager. It provides user 
experience kind between set top box and normal Linux desktop. All 
applications are full-screen and all wm operations are possible from 
keyboard that can be mapped to be controlled from lirc with irxevent. In 
addition to vdr it's nice to run e.g. Google Earth for couch traveling 
or Gcompris for kids. Those require a RF keyboard/mouse joystick for 
controls.

I had to choose once in manual login for vdr from gdm login menu other 
desktop than Gnome/KDE. Successive logins use this setting.
~vdr/.xsession:
---
#!/bin/sh
exec matchbox-session

---

~vdr/.matchbox/session:
---
#! /bin/sh

## Nvidia settings
#/usr/bin/nvidia-settings -l

## Start Matchbox
RANDOM_IMAGE=`ls /usr/local/share/Backgrounds/*1080*jpg | rl -c 1`
matchbox-desktop --icon-size 128 --icon-padding 64 --bg $RANDOM_IMAGE &
/etc/init.d/irxevent.sh restart
exec matchbox-window-manager -theme expose
---

The Menu structure is defined in ~vdr/.matchbox/vfolders. I have created 
custom menus to avoid all debian stuff to show up. It is quite easy 
generate open desktop configuration files by hand. Top level menu is 
defined with these two files. Root.directory:
---
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Programs
Name[fi]=Ohjelmat
Comment=Programs menu
Comment[fi]=Ohjelmat-valikko
Icon=htpc-folder.png
Type=Directory
Match=HTPCRoot
---

Root.Order:

HTPC-main
HTPC-internet
HTPC-games
HTPC-system
---

Desktop icon to launch sxfe is on the top level of matchbox-desktop 
(/usr/share/applications/htpc-vdr-sxfe.desktop)
---
[Desktop Entry]
Name=VDR (Sxfe Xv)
Comment=Watch digital TV, or play films and songs
Exec=/usr/local/bin/htpc-vdr-sxfe.sh
Icon=vdr-logo.png
Type=Application
Categories=HTPCMain,HTPCRoot
---

/usr/local/bin/htpc-vdr-sxfe.sh
---
#!/bin/sh
NOW=`date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S"`

## Stop irxevent
/etc/init.d/irxevent.sh stop

## Run vdr-sxfe
/usr/local/bin/vdr-sxfe xvdr://localhost --lirc --audio alsa --video xv 
--fullscreen --nokbd > $HOME/vdr-sxfe-$NOW.txt

## Restart irxevent
/etc/init.d/irxevent.sh start
---

BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread syrius . ml
"VDR User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jean-Claude Repetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  I think most VDR users are using a full featured DVB card, so they don't
>>  need X.
>
> There are very many users who do not use a full featured card!  Please
> don't discourage him from finding answers to his questions!

I own both, and i would love to swap my ff card for a budget one.
At least budget cards don't crash ! :)

To go back to the subject, gdm and kdm allow you to autologon an
user. The next step would be to run vdr from .xsession for ex.


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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jean-Claude Repetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I think most VDR users are using a full featured DVB card, so they don't
>  need X.

There are very many users who do not use a full featured card!  Please
don't discourage him from finding answers to his questions!

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Jean-Claude Repetto
Simon Baxter a écrit :
> Hi group
>  
> My VDR box currently starts up like a regular Fedora Core user, 
> auto-logs-in and starts xine - much like I expect most of you do.
>  

Hi,

I think most VDR users are using a full featured DVB card, so they don't 
need X.

Jean-Claude

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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
"Simon Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I do this?  I've been looking at modifying xinitrc and
> xinitrc-common to remove the desktop manager, but this seems a bit
> brutal.

not at all. this is the way it is supposed to be.
i would edit /etc/initd.d/xdm (or whatever it is called on your system)
to execute startx instead of the display mangager.

a more clean solution is to remove /etc/initd.d/xdm and write a new
script to start X though, you get the idea.

then edit /etc/X11/xinitrc to contain "exec /usr/local/bin/runvdr".
YMMV.

best regards ...
clemens

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[vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-05 Thread Simon Baxter
Hi group

My VDR box currently starts up like a regular Fedora Core user, auto-logs-in 
and starts xine - much like I expect most of you do.

I'm looking for a way to make all the X startup and log in invisible to the 
user.  This is where my knowledge of X and gnome falls down.

Ideally, once the initial kernel messages have completed I'd like a VDR splash 
screen (maybe even a progress bar) as things start up.

How do I do this?  I've been looking at modifying xinitrc and xinitrc-common to 
remove the desktop manager, but this seems a bit brutal.


Any ideas or thoughts?

Thanks
Simon___
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