Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-13 Thread Tobi
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:

> Could you start a new project for ttxtsubs-plugin?

I've asked Ragnar and he is perfectly fine with moving the project to a
new place. He also had some comments I've added as bug reports to the project:

http://projects.vdr-developer.org/issues/show/12

The project is available here:

http://projects.vdr-developer.org/projects/show/project-management

And the public GIT is:

git://community.xeatre.tv/vdr-plugin-ttxtsubs.git

If you want to have write access to the repository, please register at
projects.vdr-developer.org and create a bug report in "Project Management"
with your public SSH-Key added.

I would like to manage the VDR patch with Git as well, but I'm not sure
yet, how to do this. I don't see way to do this in the same repository as
the ttxtsubs plugin, so the only way may be to manage it as a branch in
the VDR Git Tree project. (I don't want to create a separate repository
just for tracking the ttxtsubs plugin)

Maybe a separate "VDR-Patches" project would be a good Idea. This would
keep the VDR GIT-Tree repository clean.

> The patch is huge and 
> the original plugin author has abandoned the whole VDR thing as far as 

I've imported the history from 0.0.1 to 0.0.5 into the git tree and
applied your patch on top of it.

Tobias



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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-13 Thread Tobi
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:

> It might be just me, but I cannot find a correct git urls for cloning 
> the repos of live, osdteletext, and ttxtsubs plugins. Could this 
> information be added into a bit more obvious place (e.g. into Repository 
> tab)?

As a quick solution I'v added te repository URL's to the first Wiki page
of each project, like:

http://projects.vdr-developer.org/wiki/plg-ttxtsubs

Tobias


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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-13 Thread Marcel Wiesweg

> Hi Tobias
>
> > The main goal for this is, to be a community effort to continue the
> > development of such orphaned VDR plug-ins and give them a new home.
>
> Could you start a new project for ttxtsubs-plugin? The patch is huge and
> the original plugin author has abandoned the whole VDR thing as far as
> know. I haven't been keen enough to provide a full changelog for
> modifications (or even to use the plugin!), but I can dig out
> contributors from my mail archives if required.
>
> Anyway it could be a good idea to rename somehow these community forks
> of plugins in order to differentiate them from the original ones: e.g.
> "osdteletext" -> "osdteletextcm", "ttxtsubs" -> "ttxtsubscm"
> (cm=community maintained).

Tobi asked me as the original author and it's perfectly all right for me to 
have development continued at this place under its normal name. I dont see 
this as a fork. (even more since it was effectively unmaintained by me)

Marcel

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-13 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Tobi wrote:

> Of course. ttxtsubs hasn't been updated for 4 years. I'll try to get an OK
> from Ragnar, but will meanwhile create the project.

Just a reminder here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vdr@linuxtv.org/msg03774.html

> Would be nice if you could do this and maybe a short summarization of
> some important changes.

I did quickly a short changelog and propably forgot some contributors, 
but it's better than nothing. Just drop me a private email and I'll send 
it to you.

BR,
--
rofa

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-13 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Tobi wrote:

> I started with releasing a the new version 0.6.0 of the OSDTeletext
> plug-in, which now supports the recent VDR version.
> But projects.vdr-developer.org is open to EVERYONE. It offers a Wiki, file
> downloads, a documents section, an issue tracker, a news tracker and a GIT
> repository for each project (via Redmine).

It might be just me, but I cannot find a correct git urls for cloning 
the repos of live, osdteletext, and ttxtsubs plugins. Could this 
information be added into a bit more obvious place (e.g. into Repository 
tab)?

BR,
--
rofa

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-12 Thread Dieter Hametner
Hello

Am Freitag, 12. Dezember 2008 schrieb Tobi:
> Hello!
>
> projects.vdr-developer.org is a place for community maintained VDR
> projects. The idea for this was born out of a survey conducted among VDR
> users, where it turned out, that even some VDR plug-ins that haven't been
> updated for years are still very popular.
>
> [...]
> Read more about this here:
>
> http://projects.vdr-developer.org
> http://projects.vdr-developer.org/wiki/project-management/Start
>

Great to see this announced!

Since I support Tobis initiative I decided to host the following two projects 
on projects.vdr-developer.org too.

1. The vdr-sources git tree (Maintained by skiller2k1 and me)
2. The LIVE plugin git tree (Maintained by Christian Wieninger and me) (*)

I think it was a good decision to use git as the central SCM system for this 
because it supports a patch driven development modell very well.


Regards
Dieter (Tadi on vdr-portal.de)

(*) The old LIVE plugin CVS is still alive, will be updated regularly and will 
remain at its current hosting.

-- 
Dieter Hametnerdh (plus) vdr (at) gekrumbel (dot) de
live plugin developer  http://live.vdr-developer.org

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-12 Thread Tobi
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:

> Could you start a new project for ttxtsubs-plugin? The patch is huge and 
> the original plugin author has abandoned the whole VDR thing as far as 
> know.

Of course. ttxtsubs hasn't been updated for 4 years. I'll try to get an OK
from Ragnar, but will meanwhile create the project.

> I haven't been keen enough to provide a full changelog for 
> modifications (or even to use the plugin!), but I can dig out 
> contributors from my mail archives if required.

Would be nice if you could do this and maybe a short summarization of
some important changes.

> Anyway it could be a good idea to rename somehow these community forks 
> of plugins in order to differentiate them from the original ones: e.g.
> "osdteletext" -> "osdteletextcm", "ttxtsubs" -> "ttxtsubscm" 
> (cm=community maintained).

>From a Debian maintainers perspective, I wouldn't like such renamings very
much :-) As long as the original author officially released the project
(like it was done with OSDTeletext) I would definitly prefer to keep the
name. If there would be really a fork, so that there were two different
actively maintained development branches, then I would surely follow your
suggestion.

Tobias


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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-12 Thread Tobi
Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote:

> tvonscreen has not had any releases for quite a while. I've contacted the 
> developer via e-mail, in case he's not interested in tvonscreen development 
> anymore (or too busy or something), maybe we could set up a project for 
> tvonscreen as well.

Of course, you're welcome!

Just follow the instructions on

http://projects.vdr-developer.org/wiki/project-management/Registering_a_new_project

Tobias

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-12 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Tobi wrote:

Hi Tobias

> The main goal for this is, to be a community effort to continue the
> development of such orphaned VDR plug-ins and give them a new home.

Could you start a new project for ttxtsubs-plugin? The patch is huge and 
the original plugin author has abandoned the whole VDR thing as far as 
know. I haven't been keen enough to provide a full changelog for 
modifications (or even to use the plugin!), but I can dig out 
contributors from my mail archives if required.

Anyway it could be a good idea to rename somehow these community forks 
of plugins in order to differentiate them from the original ones: e.g.
"osdteletext" -> "osdteletextcm", "ttxtsubs" -> "ttxtsubscm" 
(cm=community maintained).

BR,
--
rofa

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-12 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
On Friday 12 December 2008 01:43:26 Tobi wrote:
> The main goal for this is, to be a community effort to continue the
> development of such orphaned VDR plug-ins and give them a new home.

This sounds interesting. I'm maintaining the tvonscreen plugin for Fedora and 
tvonscreen has not had any releases for quite a while. I've contacted the 
developer via e-mail, in case he's not interested in tvonscreen development 
anymore (or too busy or something), maybe we could set up a project for 
tvonscreen as well.

Currently the Fedora package is carrying 02_tvonscreen-1.0-fixes.dpatch from 
e-tobi, tvonscreen-1.0.141-1.5.3.diff from toms-cafe.de and 
tvonscreen-1.0.141-i18n-1.6.patch from Mandriva (by Anssi Hannula). It would 
be interesting to merge these (and maybe some other patches people have 
written) to a new source code tree, maybe try to get some new translations and 
eventually even do new releases.


-- 
Ville-Pekka Vainio

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-11 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Tobi,
Thanks for your great work.
Nice to have these plugins on one place.
There are many patches for many plugins and it is sometimes really dificult
to find a working version for current stable vdr.

Thanks a lot

regards
Halim


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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-11 Thread hudo kkow
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Tobi  wrote:
> Hello!
>
> projects.vdr-developer.org is a place for community maintained VDR
> projects. The idea for this was born out of a survey conducted among VDR
> users, where it turned out, that even some VDR plug-ins that haven't been
> updated for years are still very popular.
>
> The main goal for this is, to be a community effort to continue the
> development of such orphaned VDR plug-ins and give them a new home.
>
> I started with releasing a the new version 0.6.0 of the OSDTeletext
> plug-in, which now supports the recent VDR version.
>
> But projects.vdr-developer.org is open to EVERYONE. It offers a Wiki, file
> downloads, a documents section, an issue tracker, a news tracker and a GIT
> repository for each project (via Redmine).
>
> Read more about this here:
>
> http://projects.vdr-developer.org
> http://projects.vdr-developer.org/wiki/project-management/Start
>
> Tobias

Thanks! This is great news! All our - forgotten - favorite plugins
being updated on one place.

BTW, does this mean we're finally going to have a community developed
VDR with all those features everybody asks for? Like... features
*nobody* misses? Features like "I have a FF card, so why the hell
would I want GPU based decoding?" Or "My eHD does it!" Or "No HD
interest here..."

BTW, this all sounds like a Nike commercial.

This is all sarcasm, people. But as soon as XBMC works reasonably well
with DVB, or with a minimal version of VDR, as Goga777 showed on the
link sent above, bye-bye VDR as stand-alone. It's that simple.

By this pace, VDR is death. The "I don't need it!" excuse just doesn't
cut it anymore. And it's really sad. VDR is a *fantastic* peace of
software.

Yeah! I know! Let the flamewars begin (or you can write something constructive).

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[vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org launched

2008-12-11 Thread Tobi
Hello!

projects.vdr-developer.org is a place for community maintained VDR
projects. The idea for this was born out of a survey conducted among VDR
users, where it turned out, that even some VDR plug-ins that haven't been
updated for years are still very popular.

The main goal for this is, to be a community effort to continue the
development of such orphaned VDR plug-ins and give them a new home.

I started with releasing a the new version 0.6.0 of the OSDTeletext
plug-in, which now supports the recent VDR version.

But projects.vdr-developer.org is open to EVERYONE. It offers a Wiki, file
downloads, a documents section, an issue tracker, a news tracker and a GIT
repository for each project (via Redmine).

Read more about this here:

http://projects.vdr-developer.org
http://projects.vdr-developer.org/wiki/project-management/Start

Tobias


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