Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-04 Thread Pasi Juppo
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Pasi Juppo wrote:
> 
>> Well, wouldn't the solution here be configurable jump length. Forward
>> and backward jump separated so that 1min forward and 10s backward jumps
>> are possible. This way most of the users would be happy.
> 
> Well, adding more of those configuration options just confuses most of
> the users, so I'd say no-no to this approach. However, if we cannot
> assing new keys, we could modify the behavious of current ones. If the
> key is repeated fast enough (<1s) the jump would be bigger than the
> previous (+10s -> +20s -> +30s -> +60s). In this way user could easily
> control the amount of skipping by pressing green/yellow buttons in
> different intervals.

When the default configuration is the same as it has been then it won't
confuse any user. This configuration can be put to the last
configuration so that it is basically "hidden". And then there are
Man-pages so no, I don't agree that this would confuse users one bit.
This is not something that needs to be changes constantly..

If this is done via remote control commands then it is not even shown to
the user. If user cannot configure remote control then (s)he most likely
is not using VDR anyway.

Accelarated repeating is very difficult for user to understand without
time bar. Even with that it is very unconvenient because after a short
while the step will be too long thus skips way too far. Rewinding takes
longer because it begins with small steps. E.g. when I use jumping I
usually press yellow several times fast and if necessary then go once or
twice back and fast forward the rest. Acceleated jumping would cause the
commercials to be skipped more slowly (in my case).

Br, Pasi

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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-04 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Pasi Juppo wrote:


Well, wouldn't the solution here be configurable jump length. Forward
and backward jump separated so that 1min forward and 10s backward jumps
are possible. This way most of the users would be happy.


Well, adding more of those configuration options just confuses most of 
the users, so I'd say no-no to this approach. However, if we cannot 
assing new keys, we could modify the behavious of current ones. If the 
key is repeated fast enough (<1s) the jump would be bigger than the 
previous (+10s -> +20s -> +30s -> +60s). In this way user could easily 
control the amount of skipping by pressing green/yellow buttons in 
different intervals.


BR,
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rofa

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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-04 Thread Pasi Juppo
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Laz wrote:
> 
>> I always copy the relevant lines for kGreen and kYellow (near the end of
>> menu.c), rename them to k1 and k3, and change the delay to 10 s, leaving
>> Green and Yellow to stay as 1 min skip.
> 
> You could always google this patch: vdr-1.4.2-k1_k3_Jumps_20s.patch
> 
> It has been included in my Liemikuutio and I've requested the similar
> feature to be integrated into vanilla VDR, but Klaus did disagree due to
> used key mapping.

Well, wouldn't the solution here be configurable jump length. Forward
and backward jump separated so that 1min forward and 10s backward jumps
are possible. This way most of the users would be happy.

One possibility would be to provide a command for this that can be
defined in remote control configuration e.g.

  

commands:  jump
parameter: +/- num of seconds

This way any number of keys can be used for this so everyone will be
happy (?).

Br, Pasi

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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-04 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Laz wrote:


I always copy the relevant lines for kGreen and kYellow (near the end of
menu.c), rename them to k1 and k3, and change the delay to 10 s, leaving
Green and Yellow to stay as 1 min skip.


You could always google this patch: vdr-1.4.2-k1_k3_Jumps_20s.patch

It has been included in my Liemikuutio and I've requested the similar 
feature to be integrated into vanilla VDR, but Klaus did disagree due to 
used key mapping.


BR,
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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-04 Thread Laz
On Saturday 03 February 2007 18:03, VDR User wrote:
> On 2/2/07, martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  To be honest, i use BigPatch for just one reason. During playback, I can
> > jump 10 sec + / - with the "1" and "3" keys. I can't live without this
> > feature, because jumping 1 Minute is nice, but most of the times way too
> > long. So, actually, adding this 10 seconds jump to the main part, would
> > also help me a lot!
>
> Maybe Klaus will let the skip-time be user-definable in a future version,
> or maybe someone has already made a patch for it but for now why not just
> make your own small patch for it rather than apply BigPatch?  I believe
> these are the lines in menu.c to modify:
>
> case kGreen:   SkipSeconds(-60); break;
> case kYellow:  SkipSeconds( 60); break;

I always copy the relevant lines for kGreen and kYellow (near the end of 
menu.c), rename them to k1 and k3, and change the delay to 10 s, leaving 
Green and Yellow to stay as 1 min skip.

The majority of advert breaks in the UK (on terrestrial channels) seem to be 
about 4 minutes (I've got another key set to skip 4 minutes forwards...) but 
some are +/- 10 or 20 s and being able to skip 10 s is very handy for me.

Cheers,

Laz

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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-03 Thread VDR User

I've found the actual patch that is used in BigPatch in case you want just
that.  The thread is located at:

http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?postid=68566

and the patch:

http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1349
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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-03 Thread VDR User

On 2/2/07, martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 To be honest, i use BigPatch for just one reason. During playback, I can
jump 10 sec + / - with the "1" and "3" keys. I can't live without this
feature, because jumping 1 Minute is nice, but most of the times way too
long. So, actually, adding this 10 seconds jump to the main part, would also
help me a lot!


Maybe Klaus will let the skip-time be user-definable in a future version, or
maybe someone has already made a patch for it but for now why not just make
your own small patch for it rather than apply BigPatch?  I believe these are
the lines in menu.c to modify:

   case kGreen:   SkipSeconds(-60); break;
   case kYellow:  SkipSeconds( 60); break;
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Re: [vdr] Feature Request: 10 Second Jump from BigPatch, "switch timer"

2007-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
martin wrote:
> To be honest, i use BigPatch for just one reason. During playback, I can
> jump 10 sec + / - with the “1” and “3” keys. I can’t live without this
> feature, because jumping 1 Minute is nice, but most of the times way too
> long. So, actually, adding this 10 seconds jump to the main part, would
> also help me a lot!

Why don't you just press FFWD/FREW shortly?

> PS: I changed the subject to the eMail, beause we have opened a new
> topic here.

Actually you should have started a new thread!

Klaus

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