Re: [vdr] HD-TV hardware decoding on motherboard instead of waitingfor FF DVB-S2 card

2008-02-08 Thread Theunis Potgieter
http://lundman.net/wiki/index.php/NetworkedMediaTank

Would be nice if someone could completely open up the device.

On 07/02/2008, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 El Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:44:41 +0200
 Theunis Potgieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  On 06/02/2008, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for hdtv - no.
I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is not h.264.
  
   Maybe this thing can be hacked to run vdr or to be used as a
   front-end: http://www.popcornhour.com/
 
  The popcornhour device (network media tank) is not linux :(

 I read somewhere that it runs Linux, maybe they were wrong but I doubt
 you can pack that kind of hardware and embed windows at that  price
 point.
 Of course the fact that runs linux (if it does) doesn't mean it's open:
 as I already said these companies (sigma, broadcom) only take from
 linux to reduce their development cost but never give back, not even a
 single line of specifications for their hardware.

 Bye
 --
 Luca

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Re: [vdr] HD-TV hardware decoding on motherboard instead of waitingfor FF DVB-S2 card

2008-02-07 Thread Luca Olivetti
El Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:44:41 +0200
Theunis Potgieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 On 06/02/2008, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   for hdtv - no.
   I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is not h.264.
 
  Maybe this thing can be hacked to run vdr or to be used as a
  front-end: http://www.popcornhour.com/
 
 The popcornhour device (network media tank) is not linux :(

I read somewhere that it runs Linux, maybe they were wrong but I doubt
you can pack that kind of hardware and embed windows at that  price
point.
Of course the fact that runs linux (if it does) doesn't mean it's open:
as I already said these companies (sigma, broadcom) only take from
linux to reduce their development cost but never give back, not even a
single line of specifications for their hardware.

Bye
-- 
Luca

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Re: [vdr] HD-TV hardware decoding on motherboard instead of waitingfor FF DVB-S2 card

2008-02-06 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Igor ha escrit:
 So I was wondering if it would be possible to use the on board video
 decoder chips of the VIA EPIA boards like the VIA EPIA EX15000G
 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboa
 rd_id=450

 This board mounts a CX700M2 chipset which features MPEG2/4 hardware
 decoding. It has DVI and Y/Pb/Pr video output as well as analog and
 SPDIF audio (coaxial and optical). So that's everything we need, isn't
 it.
 
 for hdtv - no.
 I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is not h.264.

Maybe this thing can be hacked to run vdr or to be used as a front-end:
http://www.popcornhour.com/

Supposedly it runs Linux, but you know these companies (like, e.g., 
broadcom) that only take but never give back

Bye
-- 
Luca


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Re: [vdr] HD-TV hardware decoding on motherboard instead of waitingfor FF DVB-S2 card

2008-02-06 Thread Theunis Potgieter
On 06/02/2008, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  for hdtv - no.
  I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is not h.264.

 Maybe this thing can be hacked to run vdr or to be used as a front-end:
 http://www.popcornhour.com/

The popcornhour device (network media tank) is not linux :(

The interface looks like Vista's media center edition:

Windows Vista and WMP 11 - Seamless support for Windows Vista and
Windows XP Media Player 11 built-in media server

WMS HTTP / RTSP Streaming Technology
Microsoft / Cisco Multicast Streaming Technology
ISMAv1 RTSP Streaming Technology
Multicast Streaming Technology
H.264 / WMV9 HD Streaming and MPEG4 SD format
WMV9 High / Standard Definition Streaming with Janus DRM (silent
type) capability

I have not heard of a linux solution that supports DRM.

It does have the Sigma SMP8635, which supports the MPEG-4 Part 10,
1080p or High Profile (HiP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264#Profiles.

Which is good for when HD-DVD or Blu-Ray becomes affordable. Finding a
device with this chip that runs linux and that is open is becoming
harder as Microsoft appears to corner the market :(

HD-TV dvb-s/dvb-s2 will never reach that profile, so I suspect that in
buying a FF-card will only go up to 1080i or Main Profile (MP) and be
useless for watching a HD content from a compact disc that is 1080p
through vdr :( Unless there is a dxr3 like solution as an add-on
pci/pci-express card.

Theunis

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Re: [vdr] HD-TV hardware decoding on motherboard instead of waitingfor FF DVB-S2 card

2008-02-06 Thread Theunis Potgieter
I apologies for my mistake, it appears very secretively to run linux,
no where clearly stated. There is no source supplied. oh well, aren't
we used to that?

On 07/02/2008, Theunis Potgieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 06/02/2008, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   for hdtv - no.
   I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is not h.264.
 
  Maybe this thing can be hacked to run vdr or to be used as a front-end:
  http://www.popcornhour.com/

 The popcornhour device (network media tank) is not linux :(

 The interface looks like Vista's media center edition:

 Windows Vista and WMP 11 - Seamless support for Windows Vista and
 Windows XP Media Player 11 built-in media server

 WMS HTTP / RTSP Streaming Technology
 Microsoft / Cisco Multicast Streaming Technology
 ISMAv1 RTSP Streaming Technology
 Multicast Streaming Technology
 H.264 / WMV9 HD Streaming and MPEG4 SD format
 WMV9 High / Standard Definition Streaming with Janus DRM (silent
 type) capability

 I have not heard of a linux solution that supports DRM.

 It does have the Sigma SMP8635, which supports the MPEG-4 Part 10,
 1080p or High Profile (HiP)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264#Profiles.

 Which is good for when HD-DVD or Blu-Ray becomes affordable. Finding a
 device with this chip that runs linux and that is open is becoming
 harder as Microsoft appears to corner the market :(

 HD-TV dvb-s/dvb-s2 will never reach that profile, so I suspect that in
 buying a FF-card will only go up to 1080i or Main Profile (MP) and be
 useless for watching a HD content from a compact disc that is 1080p
 through vdr :( Unless there is a dxr3 like solution as an add-on
 pci/pci-express card.

 Theunis


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Re: [vdr] HD-TV hardware decoding on motherboard instead of waitingfor FF DVB-S2 card

2008-02-06 Thread Boguslaw Juza
Hi!

Maybe the best solution is to use a hardware STB for IPTV? It takes all
soft and stream from ethernet, it allows to control via web based portal.
Video stream for this devices is near the same as SAT stream - it needs
PAT for one program only, PAT rewriting is easy.

Typical STB costs are like FF card - 100-200e, got DHMI, hardware HDTV 
etc. And it eats about 20-40W.

I'm not sure about OSD...

What do you think about this solution?

   Boguslaw Juza


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