Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplication / expiring image question

2010-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Typically we wouldn't promote the duplicate (copy 2) to primary first. We'd simply set its retention: bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d infinity -copy 2 Then for the original (copy 1) we'd set it to expire immediately: bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d 0 -copy 1 We wouldn't specify

Re: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA NOT working from OpenSuse Box

2009-11-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
When you use -X you're telling it to open an ssh tunnel. Typically that sets the DISPLAY variable and updates the $HOME/.Xauthority file on the host and for the user to which you're attaching. Due to this you should NOT set the DISPLAY variable after login as it is the tunnel session that sets

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
There's no need to erase scratch tapes. When they are scratch then they will be overwritten the next time NBU uses them. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jimenez, Daniel Sent:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
We use Data Domain here and haven't seen that. Are you running image cleanup jobs in NBU? From: Jimenez, Daniel [mailto:daniel.jime...@owb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:45 PM To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE

Re: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Lightner
Generally speaking what we do here is backup to Data Domain then duplicate the image to tape and send the tapes off site once a week. Prior to Data Domain we backed up to tape then duplicated to tape and sent the dupes offsite once a week. There was a time we sent tapes off every day but that

Re: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client agentbackup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ?

2009-10-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
It's been a while but it seems to me that once we went to 6.5 on the master we had to upgrade the clients that were running the Oracle to make RMAN backups work reliably. We also had to update the media servers. For standard OS clients we were still able to do the backups from 5.1 so it appears

Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding a DataDomain VTL need advice

2009-10-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
Make sure you understand that fibre for the Data Domain is an add on so costs extra. In our planning we were going to do fibre but didn't order the add on so ended up having to do GigE with NFS mounts instead. To get throughput we wanted we had to work on doing network aggregation.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question

2009-09-25 Thread Jeff Lightner
Nice link - wonder why they haven't updated it for 5 or 6. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Otto Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:04 AM To: sm...@peppas.gr; Ed Wilts;

Re: [Veritas-bu] Extending Media Expiration

2009-09-25 Thread Jeff Lightner
Suspend wouldn't prevent expiration though it would prevent use of the tape. Also you shouldn't change expiration on the tape but rather the image you're interested in. To determine images for a specific policy in a given date/time range: bpimmedia -L -policy policyd -d MM/DD/CCYY

Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted

2009-09-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
Since you know the completion time and elapsed time from the RMAN output you could figure it out by doing: bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d 06/14/2009 017:00:00 -e 04/27/2008 18:30:00 The end time (-e) is the one shown for completion (padded a little) and the start time (-d) is subtracting

Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted

2009-09-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
saying RMAN isn't that good at keeping track of things I'd have to say I agree but that's something the Oracle folks should address. From: Jared Still [mailto:jkst...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:30 PM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5

2009-09-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
First you need to learn to distinguish what you're running from a Linux standpoint. Typically you can determine the Distro and version by typing cat /etc/issue and on Fedora/RedHat/CentOS you can type cat /etc/redhat-release. You also need to run uname -a as it will tell you the version of

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring?

2009-09-15 Thread Jeff Lightner
We've used this little perl script for years and run it from NRPE plugin for our Nagios monitoring system. It doesn't require NPRE/Nagios though. #!/usr/bin/perl # ## # 122002jda # This script

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5

2009-09-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
Why does a bundle intended for RedHat would have comments about Suse? Anyway what you need is the compat-libstdc++-296 package. (Note that in this name the 296 is actually part of the package name rather than the version - there will be version information after the package name.) You can

Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes

2009-09-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
I concur - I've seen more frozen tapes due to drive/robot failures than due to any intrinsic fault in the tape itself. Also when we DO destroy a tape because we suspect or know it is bad it is only AFTER all the images on it have expired. Remember that there might have been images on the tape

Re: [Veritas-bu] bplist -l modification time

2009-08-21 Thread Jeff Lightner
It gives a warning that the file changed between the time it was selected for backup and the time it actually backs up. Since the initial listing is only a list it can't back that up - it has to backup the actual file as it is when it gets to it. From:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Transition from LTO1 to LTO4

2009-08-20 Thread Jeff Lightner
I imagine for the same reasons they bought the new library in the first place (e.g. age of library, support/parts etc...) plus the added reason that it takes up floor space in the data center. Data center managers often frown upon keeping old equipment just in case especially if there isn't a lot

Re: [Veritas-bu] Change server list on windows clients.

2009-08-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not sure if this works for Windows media servers but you can go into the Java GUI for master and select Media Servers. In there select all the hosts, wait for it to populate OS etc... then right click and select Properties and make your changes there. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Veritas-bu] nbemmcmd hung

2009-08-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Is it just this command or everything? I've noticed when a catalog backup is in progress everything else seems to be hung until it finishes. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: [Veritas-bu] (1M) in Veritas Unix Commands

2009-07-01 Thread Jeff Lightner
These are indications of UNIX/Linux man (manual) pages. The (1M) and the (1) are sections of man. Typically 1 = User commands and 1M = administrative commands. However, it is somewhat arbitrary as to who defines what as what. For me most NetBackup commands are administrative as we don't have

Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO Option for LTO3 drives

2009-07-01 Thread Jeff Lightner
Another vote for SSO. Whoever dedicated the 2 drives per server doesn't understand SSO. The person that suggested they were conservative was being too kind. The adjectives I would use for them would suggest they rode the short bus to school. -Original Message- From:

[Veritas-bu] Vaulting broken in 6.5.4?

2009-06-29 Thread Jeff Lightner
We upgraded to 6.5.4 on Friday and ran a test vault session. We killed it because it was finding images but was not duplicating them properly on the proper hosts My coworker will be calling following up with support this morning but I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this and already

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

2009-06-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
6.5.4 64 bit sounds like someone is stuttering... From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Spearman, David Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:40 PM To: 'Cornely, David';

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup all files in a folder but not any subfolders

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Or to restate that - you can have multiple exclude lists - one for each policy on the client. Just append the policy to the exclude.list its relevant for: e.g. POLICY SERVER-OS POLICY SERVER-DB In SERVER-DB you're backing all of /database/prodDB and all of /oracle/prodDB without any excludes.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version

2009-06-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
It does for 6.0 versions... Release === 6.0.0.0.4.4 6.0.0.0.4.4 6.0.0.0.4.4 6.5.0 6.5.0 5.1.0 By the way - the formatting is slightly off due to long Linux OS Levels (for my RHEL systems) and also the Release column was a bit short for those 6.0 versions so I modified it

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 93 - DB is Down 6.5.3

2009-06-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
Whenever a cold catalog backup has kicked off it seems to stop all other activity in NBU since 6.x. I think it is normal albeit somewhat disquieting when you don't expect it. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] In-File Delta Technology

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
NetBackup is essentially doing file level backups rather than block level so it can't do the in file delta. If you have a need for doing that then you should look at the data deduplication technology out there such as Data Domain, Avomar and others. If you look through the archives you'll

Re: [Veritas-bu] Auditors here again, I've got a question....

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
To see which media / backup IDs etc... were used for a given policy: bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS Where policy is the policy used to do the backup, -d specifies the start of the time range in which you're interested and -e specifies the end of

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer

2009-06-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
If NBU can be used to read NDMP backups can it be used to bpduplicate them with the target being the new NDMP? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of william.d.br...@gsk.com Sent: Thursday, June

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer

2009-06-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
:49AM -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote: If NBU can be used to read NDMP backups can it be used to bpduplicate them with the target being the new NDMP? Duplication shouldn't be a problem. You don't have to understand a format to duplicate data. I don't see why the target would be a different NDMP device

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
NetApp countered the offer by raising their bid to $30/share like EMC's. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D98J6CN03.htm -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sesar, Steven L. Sent:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedicated B/U vlan setup questions

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
We use HP-UX master for our 6.5.x install and backup many Windows machines (along with HP-UX and Linux). For backup VLAN we just have a separate NIC in both master and clients. We modify hosts file on the master to add the NIC of the clients. We typically specify the client names as clientb

Re: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and MediaServers

2009-06-02 Thread Jeff Lightner
I thought in 6.x it didn't really matter which was the SCAN-HOST - that is to say setting priority is no longer important? From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marianne Van Den Berg

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

2009-05-27 Thread Jeff Lightner
Haven't used Avamar but have used the Data Domains. In general I like EMC hardware but their Clariion support is done BADLY out of India IMHO. Prior to buying anything other than Symmetrix to them I'd be asking where the front line and 2nd tier support is. If they tell you India then I'd

[Veritas-bu] Data Domain being acquired by NetApp

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Lightner
http://view.mkt2lead.com/?j=fe621670756c05797d12m=feed12787d6103ls=fde 617797267077a701c7976jb=ffcf14 May be of interest for those of you using Data Domain units. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY

Re: [Veritas-bu] AIX 4.3.3 Client

2009-05-15 Thread Jeff Lightner
We have some ancient HP-UX 10.x systems that we now backup on an old NBU 5.1 install to an old 2 drive unit we have. There is no reason to make the rest of your infrastructure hold back due to ancient clients. Also pointing out that the hardware, OS and the backup solution (and likely

Re: [Veritas-bu] Clear Case Backups

2009-05-12 Thread Jeff Lightner
We don't use Clear Case but a couple of ideas occur to me: 1) You can shutdown the Clear Case DB then backup the filesystems or raw devices where it is stored. (We do this for Oracle DBs on vxfs filesystems that we don't use RMAN for as well as one older Oracle DB in raw space - mostly

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup lun Restore

2009-05-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
It depends a lot on what you mean by LUN and how you're backing it up. Is the LUN mounted as a filesystem? Is it a LUN on which you have raw database stored? Some other thing? From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins

2009-05-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
You might hint as to where the jobs are. Someone in Hawaii might want a new job but eschew postings in Alaska. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of jforres01 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:07 PM

Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins

2009-05-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
4:46 PM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com wrote: You might hint as to where the jobs are. Someone in Hawaii might want a new job but eschew

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup long retention does dedup help

2009-05-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
Right - it saves you SOME tape (assuming it is not all unique as mentioned below) because you do initial backups to disk and only send your duplicates to tape. While you can get major compression/deduplication on the disk images the duplicates on tape will be the same size they always were

Re: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error codes1

2009-04-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
Or because it is a file in the UNIX/Linux sense but not in the backup sense. Examples of these would be Door files in Solaris and anything in /proc on Linux. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu]

Re: [Veritas-bu] Jumping back into the NBU pool

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Lightner
By Solaris do you mean OpenSolaris? These are Intel boxes. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Glazerman Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:34 AM To: Schaefer, Harry;

Re: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Lightner
I've not done it on SuSE at all. If it is a 2.6 kernel probably you could make the RedHat Linux 2.6 client work. Since I don't really know SuSE I can't be sure. A couple of things I have seen on RHEL4/5 clients: 1) You have to be sure xinetd was installed BEFORE Netbackup. Otherwise

Re: [Veritas-bu] Some Help Please - Status 89 on Win2k3 StandardServer SSO San Media

2009-03-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
What version of NBU was this? We’re running sever HP-UX media servers at 6.5.1 without having seen this kind of issue. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Kippen Sent:

Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

2009-03-17 Thread Jeff Lightner
If NBU can see it then you can use the bpduplicate command to copy the image from Data Domain to tape. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of jeff kaplan Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009

Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

2009-03-17 Thread Jeff Lightner
. From: Wilcox, Donald A (GE, Research) [mailto:wil...@ge.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:19 AM To: Jeff Lightner; jeff kaplan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication It is my understanding that Data Domain deduplicated images get blown back up

Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names

2009-03-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
Resolving search lists doesn't mean they have to be configured correctly everywhere. Just for the server and the client involved in the current problem. That is to say while it needs to be configured everywhere to make each client work when their turn comes in the schedule it is a red herring

Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names

2009-03-15 Thread Jeff Lightner
We use short names. Also we actually have a separate VLAN for backups so for most hosts we put in a hostnameb short name in the master's host file. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not doing 6.5.3 yet but from my UNIX (HP-UX) master to install on RHEL5 I do the following: 1) Create a Client policy so it knows what version of the client software (Linux, HP-UX etc...) to install. I select RedHat 2.6 as OS for the that. I do it in the Java GUI. 2) From command line on the

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

2009-03-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
OST apparently costs $$$ -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman, Tony Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:02 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

2009-03-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
10:12 AM To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 That is indeed correct... in the summer of 2008 we were quoted $12,500 per year for an OST license on a DD560 plus an extra $2800 for 1 year

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to tapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
You can use the bpduplicate command to copy one backup image to another. The source image can be Data Domain and the target can be tape. If you know scripting it should be fairly easy to create a script that calls this command. Type man bpduplicate for more details on the command. Look at the

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:31 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5 Is the data domain a DSU for netbackup? When you say you're backing up to it, can you give more details? -M

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
Only problem with the script is OP says he has a Windows master. He'll have to figure out the way VBS or BAT way of doing it. From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:42 PM To: Hickman, Tony; Jeff Lightner

Re: [Veritas-bu] locate database files in clients system level backups

2009-02-27 Thread Jeff Lightner
Why not just do a bpflist on the backupid to determine what files it had? What I typically do is: bpimmedia -L -policy POLICY -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss where -d = start time and -e = end time of the backup you're interested in. Or use bpimagelist:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media

2009-02-17 Thread Jeff Lightner
That reminds me of the old joke memo about being on your manager's Special High Intensity Training list... -Original Message- From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com [mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:24 AM To: Jeff Lightner; patrick.swee

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to specifying what to backup

2009-02-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Here we don't concern ourselves with the number of policies. We try to make the names as consistent as possible to insure what we're backing up. We'll backup the operating system on every system and name policy for each as hostname-OS. The exclude lists for those policies would generally have

Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server

2009-02-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
If you're running RedHat Linux then sendmail comes with the distribution media. If you didn't install from there you can or you can just do yum install sendmail to install it from RedHat yum repositories. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server

2009-02-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
Why single me out for this? I wasn't asking - I was answering. As to what is valid for this list I don't think anyone made you the arbiter. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:59 AM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: Servet

Re: [Veritas-bu] [Q] How to check Veritas client 6.5 daemon running onLinux????

2009-02-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
There is no daemon running on the RHEL client usually. Instead xinetd should be listening on the port and start the client process when a request is made. By default xinetd is NOT installed on RHEL. The NBU Client is brain dead so assumes you have inetd when it doesn't find xinetd running.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification

2009-02-05 Thread Jeff Lightner
Actually it depends on how long your timeout is set. If you've set things to timeout in 2 hours then 6 attempts would take 12 hours. You might want to know long before that. On the other hand, setting the timeout lower risks having the backup abort if it takes a long time normally (e.g. a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status = 12 (file open failed) in bpbackup

2009-02-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
In fact in places I've worked that we used a scheduler (Maestro/Tivoli Workload Scheduler) we did have it abend on non-zero exit status. That is actually default behavior. At one site we actually wrote wrapper scripts to set exit status on the backup script so that if it was an status 1 from NBU

Re: [Veritas-bu] pdf files

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
I used pdfedit not so much to annotate but to modify a PDF report someone sent me once. This was on Linux. Not sure if they have a port to Windoze or not but it is Open Source so has no cost. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit -Original Message- From:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
I think it's a little different. The OP was asking how to do something presumably legal except if done in response to pending litigation. The news article suggests someone who was planning something quite malicious presumably of harm to Fannie Mae itself rather than any attempt to hide

Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of tburrell Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:36 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable Jeff Lightner wrote: I think it's a little different. The OP was asking how to do something

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Client for HP-UX 10.20?

2009-01-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
We have some old 10.20 clients here. The client version is: NetBackup-HP-UX10.20 3.4patchJ0850740 installed back when they were new. However, NBU 6.x won't talk to clients that old so we have smaller 5.1 Master with a small 2 drive unit set up to backup these systems and a couple of other

Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
I'm assuming you want to be able to use the tapes as scratch tapes. If so then I'd suggest just loading in the drive and doing a simple tar to the tape - that will overwrite the header information. Of course if you KNOW that there is a possibility legal might NEED these tapes for litigation

Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
I meant to say do NOT really rather than do really. By the way this is all my opinion. I'm not a lawyer so follow the advice at your own risk. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner

Re: [Veritas-bu] Sepaton

2009-01-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
Sepaton presented themselves to us as an alternative to Data Domain (data deduplication on hard drives). When I read the info they sent me it seemed that I'd have to buy at least as much storage as I already had because first copy isn't compressed. We didn't have the floor space for that so

Re: [Veritas-bu] backing up by application

2009-01-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
If you use an external scheduler such as $Universe or Tivoli Workload Scheduler (a/k/a Maestro) then you can make all the backups dependent upon one another although I wouldn't. There is no need to rerun the middle tier backup just because the DB backup fails or more importantly no reason to

Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Message- From: monalisa.ku...@wipro.com [mailto:monalisa.ku...@wipro.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:11 AM To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error Hi, Thanks fr the reply bt we have not made any change in the n/w but all

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
You might want to degauss even before sending out to such a company. At least one poster on this list noted how he had gotten used tapes that were supposedly wiped but on checking he found other people's data. As for us we degauss any bad tapes after images have expired in NBU. We don't destroy

Re: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
We're running 6.5.1 and not having this issue. Also FYI - Upgrade from 6.5.1 to 6.5.3 would not be as painful as the one you just went through. From 5.1 to 6.0 there was a major change in the way things were done. We upgraded from 6.0 to 6.5 with no real issues. -Original Message-

Re: [Veritas-bu] Media management DB out of sync.

2009-01-06 Thread Jeff Lightner
By the way many of the commands have a -h host option. You don't have to go to the various hosts - you can just add the flag and issue the command from the master for each of your media servers. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2

2009-01-06 Thread Jeff Lightner
Interesting. The following thread says in part: On further investigation, this stupidity is specific to SuSE and Gentoo which have patched glibc to support mdns. Debian has an nss-mdns which is the sane way to implement this functionality.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives

2008-12-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
A real nerd would hack Linux to replace the OS on his Blackberry then write a Perl script there to parse his wget downloads of the posts from the site. :p From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On

Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not that I've ever found. This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU: 1) They put it right next to the Cancel Job button. 2) They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all as they do when canceling a single job. 3) The highlight goes away so you are not

Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
! -Original Message- From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com [mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; ko.kur...@in.ibm.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel

[Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
I'm seeing status 23, 24 25 (socket errors) on various backups for the past couple of weeks but don't know why. Network seems to be OK. On looking at troubleshooting it suggests running Netbackup Configuration Validation Utility (NCVU). On going looking for this I don't have it on

Re: [Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
to kill. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:18 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1

Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Lightner
God, PRESERVE us from bad puns... -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sweeney, Patrick Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:01 AM To: 'debbie.l...@jmsmucker.com'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

2008-12-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
We saw lots of issues with RMAN backups until we upgrade the clients to match the master when we went to 6.x. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:15 AM To: Clooney, David Cc:

Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

2008-12-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
11:36 AM To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA Cheers Jeff, any specifics as all looks good so far? Would hate to have overlooked something. Regards David Clooney Enterprise Storage

Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE - RESOLVED

2008-12-05 Thread Jeff Lightner
] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:03 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE When running vmoprcmd on my UNIX master it shows my windows media server OFFLINE. Both are running NBU 6.5.1 The media server's name

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1Mp4 with Mcafee 8.5 or 8.0 - windows2k3 freeze the windows server

2008-12-05 Thread Jeff Lightner
Of course the fact that Symantec makes their own anti-virus product has nothing to do with the fact that NBU has issues with someone else's. :-) We're using Symantec Anti-virus here and having no issues by the way. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[Veritas-bu] List of processes

2008-12-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
Could someone send me a list of the processes that should actually be running on a Windows 6.5.1 media server? I had lists for 5.1 and 6.0 but not for 6.5. e.g. for 6.0 I had: Netbackup Compatibility Service Netbackup Device Manager Netbackup Client Service Netbackup

[Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE

2008-12-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
When running vmoprcmd on my UNIX master it shows my windows media server OFFLINE. Both are running NBU 6.5.1 The media server's name is atmbks01. I attempted to run vmoprcmd -activate_host -h atmbks01 which resulted in: EMM database error (196) I also ran vmoprcmd -hoststatus

Re: [Veritas-bu] drives on HP-UX

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Lightner
Did you run insf -e after you ran the ioscan? On HP the ioscan will detect the new hardware but doesn't create the device files (/dev/rmt/*). You have to run insf -e to install do that. After you've done that running ioscan again will show the hardware paths to the drives associated with the

[Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain. I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer. The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%. Would we see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining space of the DD?

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
SUN = Solaris = UNIX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Fogarty Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:49 AM To: Hudson, Steve Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup

Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:36 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800,EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
D'oh! I should know better than that - I just had a class at end of last month that had SUN x86 boxes running Linux so I guess it is possible to have Windows on Sun as well. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent

Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:36 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800,EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800

Re: [Veritas-bu] What are your thoughts on filesystem monitoring?

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
My opinion is that it is better to use exclude lists. That way you have to be explicitly told NOT to back something up rather than be told you SHOULD back it up. When the day comes to do a restore it won't matter that you had a policy that they needed to tell us about new filesystems - you'll

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
We've been using two DDs for a year now. Its deduplication/compression claims are valid. We use one for UNIX backups and one for Linux backups. We've had some challenges because we'd intended to do fibre but found out the fibre options for DD are extra but got left out of our original

Re: [Veritas-bu] which 64bit client to use

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
From a Linux standpoint IA64 = Itanium (very specialized and only runs 64 bit) and x86_64 = the 64 bit x86 compatible stuff (more generic) from Intel and AMD that can run 32 bit apps. IA64 != EM64T - you're using the x86 based chip when using EM64T. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Oops - meant to say we use one for UNIX/Linux backups and one for Windows backups. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robin Small Cc: VERITAS-BU

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Ouch! Funny - it made me lookup up DD's symbol - Their NASDAQ symbol is DDUP. Gotta love that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Glazerman Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:41 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re:

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
The Twelfth of Nover... :p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:57 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 FYI / I just got a note from Symantec that First

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