Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread Saran Brar
Have you tried recycling the netbackup services.

In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\

bpdown -f -v
bpup -f -v

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II 
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:

  We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.



 Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be
 started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool hung/froze
 when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the Host Properties
 and none of the servers showed Connected, so I right-clicked and connected
 them.  I manually started the policies and then tried to view them in the
 Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I closed down the application and
 re-opened and the Host Properties showed the servers as being disconnected
 again.



 I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the GUI
 has been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last few days
 and don’t seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts, suggestions?



 *James McDonald*

 *System Administrator*

 *SAIC - IISBU*

 *410-312-2232*



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
What Update pack is running?
What's changed in the environment? Anything recently updated like AV?



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Have you tried recycling the netbackup services. 
 
In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\
 
bpdown -f -v
bpup -f -v


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:


We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.

 

Recently the policies have not started on their own and they
need to be started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin
tool hung/froze when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked
the Host Properties and none of the servers showed Connected, so I
right-clicked and connected them.  I manually started the policies and
then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I
closed down the application and re-opened and the Host Properties showed
the servers as being disconnected again. 

 

I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this
point, the GUI has been working great.  All these issues have popped in
the last few days and don't seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts,
suggestions?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 


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[Veritas-bu] iSCSI and NBU 7.0 or

2011-02-24 Thread Jim Caldwell
We are looking at new disk storage from HP that are iSCSI. I have heard that 
iSCSI is not a supported by NBU (current version 7.0)
The compatibility list does not directly say (Hard to understand), only NDMP 
Direct copy Not Implemented. Any insight from the
Collective would be helpful and yes resistance is futile. Thanks. ;-)
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread McDonald, James F. II
I have restarted the services; I even rebooted the server just to be
safe.  Our program SA said he hasn't pushed an update on the system for
a while now, so nothing has changed on the system that I know of.  I
tried rebuilding one of the policies (suggested by Scott Jacobson) but I
still had the same issues as previously mentioned.  Just to recap the
issues I'm having: backups will not run (even manual starts fail to even
start), servers listed under Host Properties will not stay connected,
trying to access Storage Containers gives a database error pop-up and
displays nothing, and trying to access the Activity Monitor hangs the
Admin application.

 

 

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 

From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:25 AM
To: McDonald, James F. II
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

 

Have you tried recycling the netbackup services. 

 

In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\

 

bpdown -f -v

bpup -f -v

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:

We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.

 

Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be
started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool
hung/froze when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the
Host Properties and none of the servers showed Connected, so I
right-clicked and connected them.  I manually started the policies and
then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I
closed down the application and re-opened and the Host Properties showed
the servers as being disconnected again. 

 

I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the
GUI has been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last
few days and don't seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts,
suggestions?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread McDonald, James F. II
One of our SA's was unable to log onto the server, so went back and saw
that the logs for the server had filled up a large chunk of HDD space.
I cleared them out and he was able to login.  Does NBU have its own
location for log storage, or does something need to be done to NBU after
I cleared out the server logs?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 

From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:32 AM
To: McDonald, James F. II
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

 

Looks like EMM server down issue. did you check for free space on the
master/emm server and any logging enabled which is creating heavy logs
and eating up the space.
 



Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:27:49 -0500
From: james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com
To: saranb...@live.com
CC: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

I have restarted the services; I even rebooted the server just to be
safe.  Our program SA said he hasn't pushed an update on the system for
a while now, so nothing has changed on the system that I know of.  I
tried rebuilding one of the policies (suggested by Scott Jacobson) but I
still had the same issues as previously mentioned.  Just to recap the
issues I'm having: backups will not run (even manual starts fail to even
start), servers listed under Host Properties will not stay connected,
trying to access Storage Containers gives a database error pop-up and
displays nothing, and trying to access the Activity Monitor hangs the
Admin application.

 

 

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 

From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:25 AM
To: McDonald, James F. II
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

 

Have you tried recycling the netbackup services. 

 

In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\

 

bpdown -f -v

bpup -f -v

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:

We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.

 

Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be
started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool
hung/froze when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the
Host Properties and none of the servers showed Connected, so I
right-clicked and connected them.  I manually started the policies and
then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I
closed down the application and re-opened and the Host Properties showed
the servers as being disconnected again. 

 

I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the
GUI has been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last
few days and don't seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts,
suggestions?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread Saran Brar

Looks like EMM server down issue. did you check for free space on the 
master/emm server and any logging enabled which is creating heavy logs and 
eating up the space.
 


Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:27:49 -0500
From: james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com
To: saranb...@live.com
CC: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu






I have restarted the services; I even rebooted the server just to be safe.  Our 
program SA said he hasn’t pushed an update on the system for a while now, so 
nothing has changed on the system that I know of.  I tried rebuilding one of 
the policies (suggested by Scott Jacobson) but I still had the same issues as 
previously mentioned.  Just to recap the issues I’m having: backups will not 
run (even manual starts fail to even start), servers listed under Host 
Properties will not stay connected, trying to access Storage Containers gives a 
“database error” pop-up and displays nothing, and trying to access the Activity 
Monitor hangs the Admin application.
 
 
 
James McDonald
System Administrator
SAIC - IISBU
410-312-2232
 

From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:25 AM
To: McDonald, James F. II
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy
 

Have you tried recycling the netbackup services. 

 

In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\

 

bpdown -f -v

bpup -f -v

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II 
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:


We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.
 
Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be started 
manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool hung/froze when I tried 
to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the Host Properties and none of the 
servers showed Connected, so I right-clicked and connected them.  I manually 
started the policies and then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but 
it hung again.  I closed down the application and re-opened and the Host 
Properties showed the servers as being disconnected again. 
 
I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the GUI has 
been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last few days and 
don’t seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts, suggestions?
 
James McDonald
System Administrator
SAIC - IISBU
410-312-2232
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

Database error?
Is your NB_EMMSRV running?
Did you check the DB EMM logs?

= /usr/openv/db/log

Justin.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, McDonald, James F. II wrote:

 I have restarted the services; I even rebooted the server just to be
 safe.  Our program SA said he hasn't pushed an update on the system for
 a while now, so nothing has changed on the system that I know of.  I
 tried rebuilding one of the policies (suggested by Scott Jacobson) but I
 still had the same issues as previously mentioned.  Just to recap the
 issues I'm having: backups will not run (even manual starts fail to even
 start), servers listed under Host Properties will not stay connected,
 trying to access Storage Containers gives a database error pop-up and
 displays nothing, and trying to access the Activity Monitor hangs the
 Admin application.







 James McDonald

 System Administrator

 SAIC - IISBU

 410-312-2232



 From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com]
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:25 AM
 To: McDonald, James F. II
 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy



 Have you tried recycling the netbackup services.



 In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\



 bpdown -f -v

 bpup -f -v

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II
 james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:

 We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.



 Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be
 started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool
 hung/froze when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the
 Host Properties and none of the servers showed Connected, so I
 right-clicked and connected them.  I manually started the policies and
 then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I
 closed down the application and re-opened and the Host Properties showed
 the servers as being disconnected again.



 I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the
 GUI has been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last
 few days and don't seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts,
 suggestions?



 James McDonald

 System Administrator

 SAIC - IISBU

 410-312-2232




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Re: [Veritas-bu] iSCSI and NBU 7.0 or

2011-02-24 Thread Ed Wilts
NDMP is typically (exclusively?) used for file systems.  iSCSI is block.
You should back up the data via host agents.
On Feb 24, 2011 6:45 AM, Jim Caldwell caldwe...@nccommunitycolleges.edu
wrote:
 We are looking at new disk storage from HP that are iSCSI. I have heard
that iSCSI is not a supported by NBU (current version 7.0)
 The compatibility list does not directly say (Hard to understand), only
NDMP Direct copy Not Implemented. Any insight from the
 Collective would be helpful and yes resistance is futile. Thanks. ;-)

 James M. Caldwell
 NCCCS Unix Support
 Operation  Systems Analyst
 caldwe...@nccommunitycolleges.edu
 919-807-7234 (Office)
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread Kevin Holtz
I would recommend opening a support case, especially when jobs are not starting 
when they are suppose to.

Kevin

On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Saran Brar saranb...@live.com wrote:

 Have you tried recycling the netbackup services.
  
 In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\
  
 bpdown -f -v
 bpup -f -v
 
 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II 
 james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:
 We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.
 
  
 
 Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be 
 started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool hung/froze 
 when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the Host Properties and 
 none of the servers showed Connected, so I right-clicked and connected them.  
 I manually started the policies and then tried to view them in the Activity 
 Monitor, but it hung again.  I closed down the application and re-opened and 
 the Host Properties showed the servers as being disconnected again.
 
  
 
 I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the GUI 
 has been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last few days 
 and don’t seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts, suggestions?
 
  
 
 James McDonald
 
 System Administrator
 
 SAIC - IISBU
 
 410-312-2232
 
  
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] iSCSI and NBU 7.0 or

2011-02-24 Thread Bahadir Kiziltan
is it an D2D series array?
what's the use case? target for backup to disk (basic/advanceddisk), dedupe?

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Jim Caldwell 
caldwe...@nccommunitycolleges.edu wrote:

  We are looking at new disk storage from HP that are iSCSI. I have heard
 that iSCSI is not a supported by NBU (current version 7.0)
 The compatibility list does not directly say (Hard to understand), only
 NDMP Direct copy Not Implemented. Any insight from the
 Collective would be helpful and yes resistance is futile. Thanks. ;-)

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 Operation  Systems Analyst
 caldwe...@nccommunitycolleges.edu
 919-807-7234 (Office)
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Fiber Transport

2011-02-24 Thread Bahadir Kiziltan
I have a customer using FT Media Server over 2Gbit HBA and we can see
125MB/sec per target port.
Check if SAN Client is able to read the data from fs.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Heathe Yeakley hkyeak...@gmail.com wrote:

 I picked up some Enterprise Client licenses to speed up the backups on
 some of my larger database servers. I've gone through the Fiber
 Transport guide and setup everything as the guide suggests. When I
 fire off my first backup, I'm only getting like 20 MB/s - 30 MB/s.
 Those aren't quite the numbers I was expecting. I've gone back through
 the guides and checked to see if there's some glaring mistake I've
 made and I can't find one.

 My question is this: For those of you that use FT, do I need to go
 into the OS and change anything on the HBA? Is there perhaps a setting
 in the OS or maybe on the firmware of the HBA itself that might be
 throttling my SAN bandwidth?

 Thanks.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 58, Issue 25

2011-02-24 Thread Pawel Tkaczyk
Its in regards of Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

I would check the nbpemreq -subsystem 23 screen
to see if scheduling was not disabled

I would double check the switches, cant remeber it by hard.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread Rusty.Major
If you get low on space, EMM will shut down to save the database from 
corruption. I believe the default is 1% free, but can't remember. There 
will be a log entry in the emm log stating this was the case. This sounds 
like what could have been happening here because you could access at least 
the UI, but nothing else was working. I found a technote that explains it:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH47326
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH48007

NBU will put the logs in the same filesystem where you installed NBU, and 
are a combination of installpath\veritas\netbackup\logs and 
installpath\veritas\logs. I always put these two directories in a 
separate filesystem, but this is made easier since we run on Solaris and 
can use symbolic links.

Once you get past your problem and things are working again, you need to 
make sure that your vxlogs (also called Unified Logs and these are the 
logs in  installpath\veritas\logs) are not running at highest verbosity. 
This command will change all the vxlogs to the default level.

 installpath\veritas\netbackup\bin\vxlogcfg -a -p 51216 -o Default -s 
DebugLevel=1 -s DiagnosticLevel=1 

You can substitute 0's in there to turn logging off.

Also set the troubleshooting tab (or the registry) to 0 for the legacy 
logs (logs located in installpath\veritas\netbackup\logs). Note, after 
making either of these changes only some logs will be returned to this 
lower log setting a restart will be necessary to get all of them back to 
the new value.

This technote gives more detail on the logs. Also look in the 
troubleshooting guide for even more detail about these logs.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH43251

If you want to move your vxlogs (unified logs) follow this technote: 
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH45907
Since you are on Windows, I dont' think you can relocate the legacy logs 
(installpath\veritas\netbackup\logs) natively. You could install cygwin 
and utilize that to create a symlink. Maybe someone else has another 
suggestion on this as well.

Other ways to save space would be to limit the number of days you are 
keeping logs and enable compression of the catalog.

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Hi,

If you ran out of space it could of screwed up the EMM DB.
Check the logs for the EMM DB.

Justin.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, McDonald, James F. II wrote:

 One of our SA's was unable to log onto the server, so went back and saw
 that the logs for the server had filled up a large chunk of HDD space.
 I cleared them out and he was able to login.  Does NBU have its own
 location for log storage, or does something need to be done to NBU after
 I cleared out the server logs?



 James McDonald

 System Administrator

 SAIC - IISBU

 410-312-2232



 From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com]
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:32 AM
 To: McDonald, James F. II
 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy



 Looks like EMM server down issue. did you check for free space on the
 master/emm server and any logging enabled which is creating heavy logs
 and eating up the space.


 

 Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy
 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:27:49 -0500
 From: james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com
 To: saranb...@live.com
 CC: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

 I have restarted the services; I even rebooted the server just to be
 safe.  Our program SA said he hasn't pushed an update on the system for
 a while now, so nothing has changed on the system that I know of.  I
 tried rebuilding one of the policies (suggested by Scott Jacobson) but I
 still had the same issues as previously mentioned.  Just to recap the
 issues I'm having: backups will not run (even manual starts fail to even
 start), servers listed under Host Properties will not stay connected,
 trying to access Storage Containers gives a database error pop-up and
 displays nothing, and trying to access the Activity Monitor hangs the
 Admin application.







 James McDonald

 System Administrator

 SAIC - IISBU

 410-312-2232



 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Fiber Transport

2011-02-24 Thread Boris Kraizman
Hello,

check this buffer parameters NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS_FT and SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH1724

Hope it helps.

Boris

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bahadir Kiziltan 
bahadir.kizil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a customer using FT Media Server over 2Gbit HBA and we can see
 125MB/sec per target port.
 Check if SAN Client is able to read the data from fs.

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Heathe Yeakley hkyeak...@gmail.comwrote:

 I picked up some Enterprise Client licenses to speed up the backups on
 some of my larger database servers. I've gone through the Fiber
 Transport guide and setup everything as the guide suggests. When I
 fire off my first backup, I'm only getting like 20 MB/s - 30 MB/s.
 Those aren't quite the numbers I was expecting. I've gone back through
 the guides and checked to see if there's some glaring mistake I've
 made and I can't find one.

 My question is this: For those of you that use FT, do I need to go
 into the OS and change anything on the HBA? Is there perhaps a setting
 in the OS or maybe on the firmware of the HBA itself that might be
 throttling my SAN bandwidth?

 Thanks.

 - Heathe Kyle Yeakley
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Re: [Veritas-bu] using *.dbf in exclude lists

2011-02-24 Thread Mark Glazerman
This is indeed a valid issue and one that we were unaware was affecting us 
until this morning.  The bpbkar logs on our clients are showing many many files 
being incorrectly excluded from our OS backups because of the use of wild cards 
in our exclude lists.  Luckily, we have not run into any issues during DR or 
restore testing but this is probably down to the fact that we use FLAR's and 
don't have many, if any, requests for individual file restores.  Having said 
that, there is definitely worry now that if a file level restore was requested, 
we could easily be missing data. We are looking into amending our exclude lists 
while we try and find out if this has been fully addressed in 7.0.1 or any 
pending releases.

Thankyou for the heads up !!

Mark Glazerman
Desk: 314-889-8282
Cell: 618-520-3401
 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Glazerman
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:14 PM
To: giris...@yahoo.com; gstaff...@barclaycardus.com; 
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] using *.dbf in exclude lists


Thanks for the heads up.  I'll look into this tomorrow.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!



- Reply message -
From: Girish Jorapurkar giris...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 18:24
Subject: [Veritas-bu] using *.dbf in exclude lists
To: Mark Glazerman mark.glazer...@spartech.com, Stafford, Geoff 
gstaff...@barclaycardus.com, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Beware of the following bug in NB 7.0:

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH135929




From: Mark Glazerman mark.glazer...@spartech.com
To: Stafford, Geoff gstaff...@barclaycardus.com; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 4:30:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] using *.dbf in exclude lists

 
We exclude .dbf, .DBF, .arc and .redo files from our OS backups because RMAN 
handles all of those during the database backups.  No point in backing them up 
when they won’t be part of any OS restore.
 
Mark Glazerman
Desk: 314-889-8282
Cell: 618-520-3401
Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to
 
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Stafford, Geoff
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:59 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] using *.dbf in exclude lists
 
I’m hoping I can get a few peoples opinions on using *.dbf (or *.whatever) in 
exclude lists to avoid backing up Oracle (or whatever) database files.  I’ve 
always been of the opinion that excluding the directory where the database 
files 
are is a better method as it doesn’t require NBU to evaluate each and every 
file 
that it attempts to backup so you have less of a load on the client and, in 
theory, there might be an every so slight increase in backup speeds.  Our 
database environment, especially on the development/QA side, is very 
active/transient and new databases are popping up all the time on existing 
hosts 
resulting in backing up tons of tons of hot database files which are absolutely 
worthless.  Putting procedures around creating new databases requiring them to 
notify us when they create a new database is The Right Way to Do It™ but that’s 
easier said than done in a dev/qa world.  I’m starting to think that the time 
required to maintain the exclude lists is becoming more expensive than any 
performance benefits.
 
So, all ye great NBU minds, what are your experiences with using *.dbf and have 
you noticed any ill effects on the client?
 
 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
NetBackup logs are in C:\Program Files\Veritas\NetBackup\Logs Directory.
Is your hard drive full where NetBackup is installed?
NOTE: I stated C: Drive, but it could depend where you installed
NetBackup



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
McDonald, James F. II
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:35 PM
To: Saran Brar
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy



One of our SA's was unable to log onto the server, so went back and saw
that the logs for the server had filled up a large chunk of HDD space.
I cleared them out and he was able to login.  Does NBU have its own
location for log storage, or does something need to be done to NBU after
I cleared out the server logs?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 

From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:32 AM
To: McDonald, James F. II
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

 

Looks like EMM server down issue. did you check for free space on the
master/emm server and any logging enabled which is creating heavy logs
and eating up the space.
 



Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:27:49 -0500
From: james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com
To: saranb...@live.com
CC: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

I have restarted the services; I even rebooted the server just to be
safe.  Our program SA said he hasn't pushed an update on the system for
a while now, so nothing has changed on the system that I know of.  I
tried rebuilding one of the policies (suggested by Scott Jacobson) but I
still had the same issues as previously mentioned.  Just to recap the
issues I'm having: backups will not run (even manual starts fail to even
start), servers listed under Host Properties will not stay connected,
trying to access Storage Containers gives a database error pop-up and
displays nothing, and trying to access the Activity Monitor hangs the
Admin application.

 

 

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 

From: Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:25 AM
To: McDonald, James F. II
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

 

Have you tried recycling the netbackup services. 

 

In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\

 

bpdown -f -v

bpup -f -v

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote:

We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.

 

Recently the policies have not started on their own and they need to be
started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU Admin tool
hung/froze when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I checked the
Host Properties and none of the servers showed Connected, so I
right-clicked and connected them.  I manually started the policies and
then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I
closed down the application and re-opened and the Host Properties showed
the servers as being disconnected again. 

 

I have not done much with the command-line, since up to this point, the
GUI has been working great.  All these issues have popped in the last
few days and don't seem to be going away.  Opinions, thoughts,
suggestions?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy

2011-02-24 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Starting to wonder what is in the Windows Event Logs, and if the disk
space is a problem



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin
Holtz
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Saran Brar
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; McDonald, James F. II
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 acting buggy


I would recommend opening a support case, especially when jobs are not
starting when they are suppose to.

Kevin

On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Saran Brar saranb...@live.com wrote:



Have you tried recycling the netbackup services. 
 
In command prompt go to c:\program files\veritas\netbackup\bin\
 
bpdown -f -v
bpup -f -v


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM, McDonald, James F. II 
mailto:james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com
wrote:


We are running NBU 6.5 for Windows on Server 2003.

 

Recently the policies have not started on their own and
they need to be started manually each morning.  This morning the NBU
Admin tool hung/froze when I tried to view the Activity Monitor.  I
checked the Host Properties and none of the servers showed Connected, so
I right-clicked and connected them.  I manually started the policies and
then tried to view them in the Activity Monitor, but it hung again.  I
closed down the application and re-opened and the Host Properties showed
the servers as being disconnected again. 

 

I have not done much with the command-line, since up to
this point, the GUI has been working great.  All these issues have
popped in the last few days and don't seem to be going away.  Opinions,
thoughts, suggestions?

 

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

 


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[Veritas-bu] using *.dbf in exclude lists

2011-02-24 Thread Larry Mascarenhas
Well Geoff. What I do is run a SQL query on the DB everyday. This gets 
me the list of all files used for DB/LOG/Archivelogs/TEMP tablespace 
etc. Strip off the filenames, then sort/unique and update the 
exclude_list with the results.

This way, I never have to worry about new FS, new DB datafiles in 
existing directories.

Doing the same for DB2 as well. Works well for me.

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[Veritas-bu] Question about other backup applicattion

2011-02-24 Thread Akker Henk van den
Hi,

 

We are using Netbackup since the version 3.1 -3.2 times.

We came from TSM which we used for several years.

I have had no real pain with NBU, perhaps because we have a relatively
standard environment.

Now because we were a Sun/Oracle customer or support was going to move
directly to Symantec also because for us the terrabyte licencing model
was promising in our situation.

Because of financial reasons management decided that we should see if
this was the best way for us to go financially as well as technical.

Now that we have looked closely on what is out there at the moment, I'm
getting a bit confused about what Commvault promises.

Is there somebody that has looked into Commvault in the last two
releases and can tell me whether it's living up to it's promises or that
is more a commercial driven product?

 

I'm a bit lost in paradise!

 

Kind regards,

 

Henk van den Akker



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