[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Don and all, who answered, thanks a lot for all suggestions. Why do I try to hackle with hair. Well, Iain was asking for a fly which uses deer hair. And therefore I thought, best will be to use as much hair as possible in the construction of the fly. I refused from spinning a body G Well, I found the trick: Use a larger hook. G, this allows for a larger hackle (longer hair), and the flies aren't masterpieces, but I try do find an angle for the photo, where the flies looks ok. Patricks flies for the fir swap use a soft hackle in split thread (You remember, kangaroo), that wasn't too difficult, just this 'dry fly hackle' with deer, is a nightmare. Anyway, I call it a day now, (remember Europe is 6 to 9 hours ahead of Texas, Jimmy), and we are late her. Rene Don Ordes wrote: Rene, use two different hairs- one to hackle and one to wing. When you are doing the wing, tie the bases down real tight, then gather the wings together (one at a time) with snug wraps around the base of the hair only, like doing a post, only don't go very far up the wing- don't want to see the thread. Then the hackle gets tricky, depending on the hair used. I started my fly with the tail then the wings, then flare a hackle set behind the wings with butts towards the bend, trim. This flares the hairs up against the back of the wings, filling in between them. Then I did the bodies, covering up the hackle butts when I got there. Then I'd do a rear-ward flare in front of the wings with the butts forward. This sandwiched the wings and made a dense hackle. I could either then trim the butts off or trim them into a deer-hair cone-head, like a small muddler. It's like hard-flaring the collar hairs on a muddler head, with the wings in between. The contrast is what makes the wings stand out, length, density, or color. Use you fingers to force the hairs into shape, then glue at the bases to hold them. Why did I quit doing these? The deer just didn't hold up like hackles. Then Dr. Tom took over Whiting and that was all for deer hackles. DonO - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Hi Don, I tried 'Comparadun hair', it is short and not hollow (I think), the stack and flare technique works, but I want to wing the fly.. Maybe flare, wing and.. Rene Don Ordes wrote: I used to do deer-hair hackling long ago, but I just stacked and flared it. I could do up one and send you a photo. Type of deer and location on hide is important. DonO - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Joe, I cannot find it on Amazon. Is the Author correct spelled. I tried diff. variations, but no avail. Rene Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: *Rene - / /I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com mailto:markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel George Grant's flies are really something to see. http://web.mac.com/robertdotson/iWeb/Fly%20Collection/George%20Grant.html Wes Wada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Here is a copy available on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fly-Tying-Hair-Hackle-Tying-Techniques-GREAT-NEW_W0QQitemZ200322262426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonfiction_Book?hash=item2ea423259a Rene Zillmann wrote: Joe, I cannot find it on Amazon. Is the Author correct spelled. I tried diff. variations, but no avail. Rene Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: *Rene - / /I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com mailto:markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
George Grant was a true innovator and artist. Another one was Franz Pott. http://flytying.infonet.ee/crabby/woven.html He designed neat woven bodies. I have many flies using his belly-weave. DonO - Original Message - From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel George Grant's flies are really something to see. http://web.mac.com/robertdotson/iWeb/Fly%20Collection/George%20Grant.html Wes Wada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, i think it's MacKenzie.next time i go downstairs...blah blah blah...lmao. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:49:41 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Joe, I cannot find it on Amazon. Is the Author correct spelled. I tried diff. variations, but no avail. Rene Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: *Rene - / /I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com mailto:markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, you'll love that book. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:05:23 -0600 From: jklepo...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Here is a copy available on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fly-Tying-Hair-Hackle-Tying-Techniques-GREAT-NEW_W0QQitemZ200322262426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonfiction_Book?hash=item2ea423259a Rene Zillmann wrote: Joe, I cannot find it on Amazon. Is the Author correct spelled. I tried diff. variations, but no avail. Rene Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: *Rene - / /I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com mailto:markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
saw the stonefly Don..VERY cool. i have some Geroge Grant flies somewhere..can't find 'em.i think i left 'em up at the Roscoe house.jeeze. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:17:48 -0700 George Grant was a true innovator and artist. Another one was Franz Pott. http://flytying.infonet.ee/crabby/woven.html He designed neat woven bodies. I have many flies using his belly-weave. DonO - Original Message - From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel George Grant's flies are really something to see. http://web.mac.com/robertdotson/iWeb/Fly%20Collection/George%20Grant.html Wes Wada _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Thankx a LOT Wes.i bookmarked itso many wonderful tyers and flies..i have a framed self potrait of Polly Roseborough with 6 of his flies in it. And reading the last part of the talk Ernie Schweibert gave at the AMFF really took me back to the 3/4 times i got to hear him speak in front of groups. His endings were alwasy KILLER. And so true as to why we stay invloved with all of thisone of the ONLY things i know of, where you can partially remain the kid you once were. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:03:46 -0800 Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle From: w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel George Grant's flies are really something to see. http://web.mac.com/robertdotson/iWeb/Fly%20Collection/George%20Grant.html Wes Wada _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
I used to do deer-hair hackling long ago, but I just stacked and flared it. I could do up one and send you a photo. Type of deer and location on hide is important. DonO - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Hi Don, I tried 'Comparadun hair', it is short and not hollow (I think), the stack and flare technique works, but I want to wing the fly.. Maybe flare, wing and.. Rene Don Ordes wrote: I used to do deer-hair hackling long ago, but I just stacked and flared it. I could do up one and send you a photo. Type of deer and location on hide is important. DonO - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, use two different hairs- one to hackle and one to wing. When you are doing the wing, tie the bases down real tight, then gather the wings together (one at a time) with snug wraps around the base of the hair only, like doing a post, only don't go very far up the wing- don't want to see the thread. Then the hackle gets tricky, depending on the hair used. I started my fly with the tail then the wings, then flare a hackle set behind the wings with butts towards the bend, trim. This flares the hairs up against the back of the wings, filling in between them. Then I did the bodies, covering up the hackle butts when I got there. Then I'd do a rear-ward flare in front of the wings with the butts forward. This sandwiched the wings and made a dense hackle. I could either then trim the butts off or trim them into a deer-hair cone-head, like a small muddler. It's like hard-flaring the collar hairs on a muddler head, with the wings in between. The contrast is what makes the wings stand out, length, density, or color. Use you fingers to force the hairs into shape, then glue at the bases to hold them. Why did I quit doing these? The deer just didn't hold up like hackles. Then Dr. Tom took over Whiting and that was all for deer hackles. DonO - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Hi Don, I tried 'Comparadun hair', it is short and not hollow (I think), the stack and flare technique works, but I want to wing the fly.. Maybe flare, wing and.. Rene Don Ordes wrote: I used to do deer-hair hackling long ago, but I just stacked and flared it. I could do up one and send you a photo. Type of deer and location on hide is important. DonO - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
*Rene - I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.comwrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
well there you go Rene.thankx Joe.you just saved me some time. Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:29:21 -0600 Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle From: jfusc...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Rene - I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
