Re: [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Silk or Nylon Wraps for Guides

2015-05-15 Thread Neville Gosling 
Hi Tony:

I am more interested re bamboo rods as I have one in the corner that is in need 
of refurbishment but so far have not found the time to do. You might as well 
send the graphite methods as there is always something one can learn.
No hurry Tony. Just when things are ok and you are feeling up to 
it…...Nev


> On May 15, 2015, at 12:04 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just replied to a person this morning about finishing the wraps on a 
> Graphite rod. I will copy and past it in a message with a few more comments. 
> I can also add the finishing of wraps on bamboo rods that is a bit different.
> I will do that later today or tomorrow.
> If no one else is interested, I will send it direct to you. I am not up to 
> doing it right now.
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, May 15, 2015 1:36 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
> 
> 
> Tony:
> 
> I think that you should post your method so that we can all learn & take 
> note. After all, it is very akin in many ways to fly tying. If you are too 
> modest however, please let me know because I am sure that I can learn 
> something.
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2015, at 5:19 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Jack,
>> I wrapped my first rod in about 1947 with Silk thread. I started wrapping 
>> Glass and then Graphite rods with Nylon. Only used Color Preserver on very 
>> few rods as it was a real pain in the butt if you did not get the wraps 
>> totally soaked. If not totally soaked dark spots would show up if using 
>> varnish. Flex Coat is an Epoxy finish that does not give you that problem 
>> with Nylon. The past 17 years I have been making bamboo rods and use only 
>> silk on them with a varnish finish and no CP. I like the translucent look of 
>> the wraps. Doing this will change the original color of the thread. It will 
>> make it darker or a totally different color.
>> I think all color preserver now is water base, in the old days that was not 
>> so. It was mostly Shellac base. I still have some of that on the original 
>> bottles.
>> I don't want to bore anyone here on my method of finishing wraps but if you 
>> want to know what I do, feel free to contact me off list.
>> Is this bamboo or Graphite you are asking about.
>> Tony
> 
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
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Re: [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Silk or Nylon Wraps for Guides

2015-05-13 Thread 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Jack,I wrapped my first rod in about 1947 with Silk thread. I started wrapping 
Glass and then Graphite rods with Nylon. Only used Color Preserver on very few 
rods as it was a real pain in the butt if you did not get the wraps totally 
soaked. If not totally soaked dark spots would show up if using varnish. Flex 
Coat is an Epoxy finish that does not give you that problem with Nylon. The 
past 17 years I have been making bamboo rods and use only silk on them with a 
varnish finish and no CP. I like the translucent look of the wraps. Doing this 
will change the original color of the thread. It will make it darker or a 
totally different color.I think all color preserver now is water base, in the 
old days that was not so. It was mostly Shellac base. I still have some of that 
on the original bottles.I don't want to bore anyone here on my method of 
finishing wraps but if you want to know what I do, feel free to contact me off 
list.Is this bamboo or Graphite you are asking about.Tony
 


 On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:50 PM, Jack Harford  
wrote:
   

 Hi Neville - that's what I am looking for . . . opinions of those with more 
experience than me :)
Welcome some more opinions too ;)
Tight lines,Jack
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:

Hell Jack:
I notice in my reply that my ISP is still tagging my messages to VFB as [Shaw 
Suspected Junk Email]. Hopefully you will still receive it.

This is just my opinion only, but I have been wrapping rods since my schooldays 
60+ years ago
Silk Thread:
Used primarily for wrapping bamboo rods because of its esthetics, goes clear 
when varnished and is traditional. I have 3 cane coarse fishing rods that I 
wrapped years ago when living in the uk. I wrapped them with silk thread and 
used even finer Pearsalls’s fly tying silk of the same colour for the 
intermediate wraps every few inches. The rods were varnished with an oil based 
varnish and still look pretty good although not used for many years. Some 
people refer to a thread as silk when it is not real silk.
Nylon Thread
There are all sorts of threads out there and although they might be referred to 
as nylon, I’m not sure if they are as there are so many polyesters and similar 
derivatives.  I have a good supply of Gudebrod rod wrapping threads and that is 
what I use on all my graphite and fibreglass rods. It is stronger than silk, 
comes in a variety of colours, does an acceptable job and not as expensive as 
real silk.
Neville (Nev) GoslingGreater VancouverBC  Canada


On May 13, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:
1.  Could someone expound on the pluses and minuses of using Silk or Nylon 
thread for wrapping guides on fly rods?
2.  What type and size of silk thread do you feel looks nice?
3.  I don't like the look of the No Color Preserver Nylon threads or really 
using color preserver at all.  Am I just being eccentric or are there others in 
this camp too?
Tight lines,Jack 


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Re: [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Silk or Nylon Wraps for Guides

2015-05-13 Thread Jack Harford 
Hi Neville - that's what I am looking for . . . opinions of those with more
experience than me :)

Welcome some more opinions too ;)

Tight lines,
Jack

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Neville Gosling 
wrote:

> Hell Jack:
>
> I notice in my reply that my ISP is still tagging my messages to VFB
> as [Shaw Suspected Junk Email]. Hopefully you will still receive it.
>
>
> This is just my opinion only, but I have been wrapping rods since my
> schooldays 60+ years ago
>
> Silk Thread:
>
> Used primarily for wrapping bamboo rods because of its esthetics, goes
> clear when varnished and is traditional. I have 3 cane coarse fishing rods
> that I wrapped years ago when living in the uk. I wrapped them with silk
> thread and used even finer Pearsalls’s fly tying silk of the same colour
> for the intermediate wraps every few inches. The rods were varnished with
> an oil based varnish and still look pretty good although not used for many
> years. Some people refer to a thread as silk when it is not real silk.
>
> Nylon Thread
>
> There are all sorts of threads out there and although they might be
> referred to as nylon, I’m not sure if they are as there are so many
> polyesters and similar derivatives.  I have a good supply of Gudebrod rod
> wrapping threads and that is what I use on all my graphite and fibreglass
> rods. It is stronger than silk, comes in a variety of colours, does an
> acceptable job and not as expensive as real silk.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
>
>
> On May 13, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Jack Harford 
> wrote:
>
> 1.  Could someone expound on the pluses and minuses of using Silk or Nylon
> thread for wrapping guides on fly rods?
>
> 2.  What type and size of silk thread do you feel looks nice?
>
> 3.  I don't like the look of the No Color Preserver Nylon threads or
> really using color preserver at all.  Am I just being eccentric or are
> there others in this camp too?
>
> Tight lines,
> Jack
>
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Re: [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Silk or Nylon Wraps for Guides

2015-05-13 Thread Neville Gosling 
Hell Jack:

I notice in my reply that my ISP is still tagging my messages to VFB as [Shaw 
Suspected Junk Email]. Hopefully you will still receive it.


This is just my opinion only, but I have been wrapping rods since my schooldays 
60+ years ago

Silk Thread:

Used primarily for wrapping bamboo rods because of its esthetics, goes clear 
when varnished and is traditional. I have 3 cane coarse fishing rods that I 
wrapped years ago when living in the uk. I wrapped them with silk thread and 
used even finer Pearsalls’s fly tying silk of the same colour for the 
intermediate wraps every few inches. The rods were varnished with an oil based 
varnish and still look pretty good although not used for many years. Some 
people refer to a thread as silk when it is not real silk.

Nylon Thread

There are all sorts of threads out there and although they might be referred to 
as nylon, I’m not sure if they are as there are so many polyesters and similar 
derivatives.  I have a good supply of Gudebrod rod wrapping threads and that is 
what I use on all my graphite and fibreglass rods. It is stronger than silk, 
comes in a variety of colours, does an acceptable job and not as expensive as 
real silk.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada


> On May 13, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:
> 
> 1.  Could someone expound on the pluses and minuses of using Silk or Nylon 
> thread for wrapping guides on fly rods?
> 
> 2.  What type and size of silk thread do you feel looks nice?
> 
> 3.  I don't like the look of the No Color Preserver Nylon threads or really 
> using color preserver at all.  Am I just being eccentric or are there others 
> in this camp too?
> 
> Tight lines,
> Jack 
> 

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