From my perspective, the less mainstream corporate media is involved in
any alternative independent media, the better. They already destroyed
independent film and cable.
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Bingo.
That's THE question, Jacek.
Jan
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Jacek Artymiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:01 AM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of interest...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/
Is advertising the only way
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:28 PM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do they NEED TO GET IT?
Why do we feel like we NEED THEM TO GET IT?
Co-Existing not feasible?
Is this about getting picked up by the old suits or is this about
Independents being able to leverage technology to publish their
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:01 AM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of interest...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/
Is advertising the only way to monetize on-line videos that all those
bright people in the Valley can think of? I watched one of the Web 2.0
gurus
But who says the networks have any obligation to hire the independents?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because people who deserve to be paid well for their excellent work are not
getting their due. That is all.
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From: @sull [EMAIL
We, what time are you meeting???
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Jacek Artymiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
But who says the networks have any obligation to hire the independents?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL
PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com
wrote:
Because people
They don't have an obligation to independents at all, but they're being
massively stupid for missing out on opportunites to take on serialized
content that has establushed communities that are alpha-recommending
products and services left and right. Networks miss out, content creators
miss out,
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They don't have an obligation to independents at all, but they're being
massively stupid for missing out on opportunites to take on serialized
content that has establushed communities that are alpha-recommending
products
I really enjoy saying all the thing you do as well, Jacek. The problem is that
it's time the funding sources of all types stop seeing this as experimental and
something for later. The goods are there NOW.
-Original Message-
From: Jacek Artymiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008
No doubt that there is truth in the expressed misconceptions of what
Independent Net Media encompasses.
I dont even know the best terminology these days and language always helps
define ( whats a vlog? ;)
User Generated Content is NOT EpicFu. So yeah that must be annoying to
hear. But I wonder
Despite being a negative person and setting my expectations rather
low, things havent met my expectations.
I never believed the hype and silly advertising projections, even
without the economic storm I dont think all would be well in the world
of web 2.0 also known as 'where's the revenue?'
I know. The money thing. It's a big problem, when you don't have it
and I don't want to trivialize it, as I personally know how it feels
when you don't have it and can't tell when it will be coming.
In times like these you need to scale down and work within the
limitations of the format. I had to
Wont investors see it as experimental and very high risk unlss there
are more examples of people getting a return on their investment?
Maybe I am missing some success stories, where are they? Doesnt help
that the handful of early stars seem to have failed to capitalize on
their position.
What
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What Ive found most annoying is the halfhearted way that those who
have received some backing, have been treated. We've seen several
shows get picked up by new media networks who then seem to have no
clue what to do with
Maybe it's because I only watch or subsribe to a certain number of
people, but I always get the feeling that for every Epic Fu or Ask a
Ninja, there are a thousand shows like minewhich isn't a show
at all, just a personal vlog...so for them to not be aware or to
state that only we can do
Why do they NEED TO GET IT?
Why do we feel like we NEED THEM TO GET IT?
Co-Existing not feasible?
Is this about getting picked up by the old suits or is this about
Independents being able to leverage technology to publish their works and
fins a market?
[Non-text portions of this message have
I feel it's important for two reasons - wasted opportunities and
wasted time:
1) it's just a terrible wasted opportunity for a company like the BBC
to not Get It. they could do so much good. even for a big US
network - they have the resources to create fantastic content,
networks and
Because people who deserve to be paid well for their excellent work are not
getting their due. That is all.
-Original Message-
From: @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:28:02
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the
I agree with your two reasons, Ru. Essentially all the time wasted
trying to close things off from indie creators is also the big guys
getting in their own way.
It so bugs me that the BBC can do a wonderful project like Capture
Wales,
well, there was nothing on after top chef last night (which i watched on
dvr, so
i didnt watch any of the commercials) so i watched 11 4-minute episodes
http://captainblasto.com --
i am constantly running out of time to watch the cute, new shows online --
heath
there are so many! not all of them
of interest...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks for posting, but it and the comments that followed were just
annoying. Totally misses the point.
One day soon someone will come up with a video interface that truly
brings internet TV to the couch for more than just geeks, which shows
more than just badly encoded 5 minute YouTube
wow, just noticed this new post on rrw. synchronicity.
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/netflix_ceo_thinks_the_time_is.php
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:34 AM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm watching netflix on TV with http://www.roku.com
And soon you can use your TiVo to access the
I agree, Rupert.
I had written an additional 2 paragraphs about TV as it is and tonights
experience trying to sit down with no interruptions, no puter... just sit
down and watch some show i never heard of (Life on Mars - weird!). And it
was intolerable with all the commercial breaks. I felt
I'm watching netflix on TV with http://www.roku.com
And soon you can use your TiVo to access the netflix VOD catalog.
Personally, i'd like to see netflix become more involved with distributing
independent net video.
I always admired Red Envelope, which was shut down recently (
I totally totally totally agree with this. As much as I totally
totally totally disagree with the loser on Techcrunch. This is what
I've been banging on about for the last year and a half to anybody
who would listen. Couch/internet convergence and a pointer remote.
Bring it on.
Rupert
We are clearly geniuses. Somebody should be paying us massive
amounts of money for our ideas. ;)
On 13-Nov-08, at 10:57 PM, @sull wrote:
I agree, Rupert.
I had written an additional 2 paragraphs about TV as it is and tonights
experience trying to sit down with no interruptions, no puter...
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