On Jan 16, 2008 10:02 PM, Mike Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adrian:
To your Question about having video's removed from the list. The only
solution Andreas has responded with is to delete the video. Delete
it from it's original posted location... delete it from Blip (or
whatever storage
I think I might have a few answers to your questions Andreas.
1) is proper acknowledgement not a fair request?
It is a fair request IMO, however it is not an obligation unless I am using
someone's content with the requirement in their copyright license.
I did credit and link to you in my very
I am not seeing any wish to discuss the contents of the manifesto in this
thread. Mike is the only one who has come close, but pointing out that he
has scripted a lumiere video (we all have) is not an opening for
discussion. It's just a statement of fact.
I have written some long e-mails in
David, you can rest assured that people would have to stay on the lumiere
site for over 3 hours before your video would be played. There is a clear
link to the blogpost where the video came from right below it (same way
iTunes handles videos). I have received no complaints from anyone over
On Jan 17, 2008 1:07 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any speculation on whether or not the link would be removed would be just
that, speculation. Please don't start making up issues that are not there.
Andreas, I'm not making anything up. YOU said that if we didnt want
I can tell you that Aske Dam, who first introduced me to the rules creates
his lumiere videos with one notable exception - he allows himself to break
one of the rules. Most often this is the no audio rule for the same
reasons you outline.
I have found the 1 minute rule to be the one I most
People are free to delete any video and it won't show up. We have still
not received any requests from anyone asking for their links to be
removed. On the other hand we have received many requests to be included.
If you want to contact the maintainers of the videoblogging.info website
is proper acknowledgment not a fair request?
I'm surprised you think this is the issue. Of course it's a fair
request. The problem Andreas is the way in which you requested the
acknowledgment. An apology in order and you have yet to offer one or
address the issue. That would have cut this
Let me be the first then, to request that you (Andreas and Brittany)
remove all links to my Lumiere videos from your site.
Specifically, here are the links I would like you to remove:
http://michaelverdi.com/index.php/2007/06/27/partly-cloudy-lumiere-1/
Or you could try enjoying video in a whole new way.
at your local gay video dance bar.
http://www.sfbadlands.com/
On Jan 17, 2008 3:19 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Den 17.01.2008 kl. 16:05 skrev Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So how about Lumish... stuff
Den 17.01.2008 kl. 16:05 skrev Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So how about Lumish... stuff that is inspired by and deeply related to
Lumiere, but may
break a rule here or there.
Go nuts. For something somewhat related that predates my own lumiere
videos: http://blandlands.com/
--
Let me be the first to request that this thread ends now and any further
communication concerning Andreas' eitquette or content linked on the Lumiere
site be directed to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Sull
(the soapbox stomper)
On Jan 17, 2008 3:53 PM, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 18/01/2008, at 6:29 AM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
I can tell you that Aske Dam, who first introduced me to the rules
creates
his lumiere videos with one notable exception - he allows himself to
break
one of the rules. Most often this is the no audio rule for the same
reasons
On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Charles HOPE wrote:
Sull, please stop telling people to shut up.
he did not say that. he made a request and a suggestion
This is a very annoying habit of
yours and at this point, it pretty much is your only contribution
to this list.
no friggen way
Hi Adrian,
I understand and agree with what you just wrote and what Andreas wrote
earlier about the manifesto. No arguments there from me. I think (at
least it's the case with me) that what is bothering some of us is that
when we first heard of this project it was simply an artistic exercise
using
Sull, please stop telling people to shut up. This is a very annoying habit of
yours and at this point, it pretty much is your only contribution to this list.
Develop the discipline to avoid threads you don't like.
Sull wrote:
Let me be the first to request that this thread ends now and any
On 18/01/2008, at 11:39 AM, Michael Verdi wrote:
I understand and agree with what you just wrote and what Andreas wrote
earlier about the manifesto. No arguments there from me. I think (at
least it's the case with me) that what is bothering some of us is that
when we first heard of this
On 18/01/2008, at 3:53 PM, Heath wrote:
Taken in context with what is being said before in the manifesto, why
is it unreasonable to think that someone may read the manifesto and
conclude that Andreas and Brittany are in charge of the videos or
have been given the videos to be taken care of.
hi Heath
fair enough, I think there are some reasonable concerns in there. I
guess it is one thing to more or less curate material that relates to
the lumiere project, but there are issues if the curation is done
automagically, as it were.
On the other hand I have no doubt that Andreas and
First question, (because I am in a zen state of mind): If a brouhaha happens
on the weekend when I am not reading the list, does it really exist?
OK, so yes, apparently it does. :-)
I have only one lame excuse: we do an episode 5 days a week and since we are
not paid for this it is a labor of
1. The manifesto is provocative and useful, Some of this aspect comes
from material that isn't really directly connected to the conditions
of the original Lumiere films, but that's just fine, and the Lumiere
restrictions continue to be useful as well. It has inspired some of
the best work in the
Heath, you are not understanding what the manifesto is or what the video
collection is.
We did not tell anyone about the manifesto. Those who found it did so due
to their own curiosity. This was a conscious choice for us as we would
rather have people discover it on their own. In time it
On Jan 14, 2008 7:04 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
reading that you must be deliberately misunderstanding what it says.
And you must be deliberately insulting. What an absurd thing to say
to someone, Andreas! Supposing for a moment it was a
misunderstanding ... you
Hey Heath, what's with all the Scoble taunting? Got a
man crush on him?
JC
--- Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know what? Robert Scoble was right...
Heath
http://batmangeek.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas
Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rox,
I
They are in the manifesto (named, it is the remoscope collective) along
with Aske Dam's name (who first told me about them). Did you bother to
read the website at all before commenting on it?
- Andreas
Den 13.01.2008 kl. 09:08 skrev Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Back in the original
Cheryl, it is fine that you have other issues with me, us or the
manifesto, but I would like it if you could take a moment to reflect on
what my issue is before jumping on to other things. First off Brittany
doesn't participate in this group - she quit it before you started
videoblogging.
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