Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-29 Thread Jay dedman
i should let this conversation die...but it brings up so many good issues. David is also a good sport. I saw this video today: http://waxy.org/random/video/shining_redux.mov Its completely illegal and the creator should be jailed and sued according to our current copyright law. i think its

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I pirate a copy of Final Cut Pro.but i consistently buy macs and all of its products. symbiotic relationship. This logic only works when the same company is making hardware AND software. They may take a loss on the pirated software, but if people have to have a powerful computer to use it,

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread Verdi
On Sep 21, 2005, at 9:20 PM, David Yirchott wrote: Fair Use is a broad guideline open to interpretation. If you don't have legal representation that can beat a team of lawyers for a major media conglomerate, I would definitely advise thinking twice before using any copyrighted material.

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread Brett Gaylor
don't know, but I do know now that all musicians who sample work pay for rights to use the samples, even when making a new work derived from samples.Ah...you mean all the artists on the radio, who have paid and been granted permission.  You are excluding the thousands who cannot afford to pay

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread Brett Gaylor
Would Fidel have a case?http://canf.org/es/chistes/FUNNY-AS-HELL-Strohs-NEED-SPEAKERS.mpegNot under copyright law, I don't thinkstroh's probably paid whoever taped that for the rights.   Fidel doesn't own copyright over his own image, but he probably has some other rights over it.  He'd have

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread Brett Gaylor
I'm a big believer in creating as much as you can yourself because then it's all yours - no one can bug you about anything that you do.  Sure there are times to make use of fair use, but I've always thought that you can be poignant and satirical even in a project that you create 100% from

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread David Yirchott
True. Laws do change, but copyright laws seem to be changing in favor of the copyright holders, due most likely to powerful media lobbies that are recognizing how technology is making pirating simple. Look at what's going on with DRM. There's a lot of money at stake. yep. you help show

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread Verdi
On Sep 22, 2005, at 2:23 PM, David Yirchott wrote: If you don't wanna do the time, don't do the crime. I'm sorry that line is a trademark of Universal Studios. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread David Yirchott
Fair Use is a broad guideline open to interpretation. If you don't have legal representation that can beat a team of lawyers for a major media conglomerate, I would definitely advise thinking twice before using any copyrighted material. I agree that that is a fair assessment of the

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread David Yirchott
From: Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The other end of that is that the strong protections are also there to defend our economy. When they make sense. And they are also softened in various cases to encourage growth. It doesn't seem to me that strong protections are doing the music

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-22 Thread David Yirchott
From: Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't wanna do the time, don't do the crime. I'm sorry that line is a trademark of Universal Studios. D'oh! (oh, crap! Now FOX is after me too!) -David Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-21 Thread Jay dedman
FWIW, I do agree with current copyright law, at least to the extent that if someone creates something they should own it and decide what is done with it. and in this discussion, i will take the side against present copyright law. it's like following the laws of the Old testament. they were

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-21 Thread David Yirchott
Would Fidel have a case? http://canf.org/es/chistes/FUNNY-AS-HELL-Strohs-NEED-SPEAKERS.mpeg A case of Strohs? :) That's pretty funny, I hadn't seen it before. Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would hazard a yes. I could not imagine dubbing over Brittney Spears' voice to have her unintentionally

Re: [videoblogging] the gray area of copyright law

2005-09-21 Thread David Yirchott
in this discussion, i will take the side against present copyright law. it's like following the laws of the Old testament. they were written for a different time in human consciousness. brothers and sisters. I bring you the New testament. these are just laws. they can be rewritten as we change.