date:20061216

Two quick points-

We don't embed. We have a thumbnail that points to your feed. There's
nothing copied and stored in our system but the data of the RSS (no
rich file). 

We only got the request formally to take down the show of the person
who complained moments ago. I wasn't going to take it offline without
him requesting, because I'd hoped to win his understanding. The feed
will be removed. I sent the request to my Dev team. 

--Chris...

[videoblogging] Re: RSS as Relationship Tool

Hi Steve-

Specific to Blip, I'd say yes without a doubt that we're friends.
We've spent time with Mike and Dina, and have had them speak at our
events. Mike and Dina (and Charles and the team) supported PodCamp
Boston, my first free unconference. We have a relationship. 

We have friends and relationships with Brightcove, and I'm building a
relationship with Revver through Micki. 

If you think about it, we're pushing more folks to view content hosted
on Revver, giving Revver (or Blip or whoever) the credit for hosting
the content, linking back to THEM, and also not interfering with any
ad deals that Blip or Revver or *.host have put on the site. 

So yes. 

One reason we link back to you and DON'T embed or host your video is
then we'd mess up your numbers, for people who want numbers. Another
big huge company that uses a fruit logo sometimes stores server-side
copies of your videos so that your RSS doesn't get an accurate count
of people watching (I'm told- no direct proof). That means, if you DO
care about numbers, they're skewed. 

Instead, we let your numbers stay your numbers. 

And Steve, I appreciate your thoughts and your tone. Coming off
sounding angry is fine. You're still demonstrating intelligence and an
interest in the logic and rationale. 

It only sucks when people are just crapping on you for nothing and
with no ability to discuss the particulars. 

Anyone coming out to CES? I'd love to meet up and say hi. 

--Chris...

Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Gary Short

Amanda Congdon wrote:
 
 
 Chuck, I am personally offended by that comment. Lady cats everywhere
 should be outraged. My cat, Mattie, 

Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Hey, isn't it about time that the Andrew and Amanda camps just declared 
a score draw and applaud each other as they leave the field? What's done 
is done, let's move on shall we? Apart from anything else, having two 
vlogging superstars duking it out like this in public, makes us all look 
like total amateurs.

For example, I've managed to land a paying gig with the Carnoustie Golf 
Links, vlogging their run up to The Open 2007. This event is the major 
event in the pro golf calendar. We are talking about a multi-million 
pound business here; something that puts vlogging up there as something 
you just do when you are hosting an event like this. If I get it 
right, then every host venue from now on will be doing the same, as they 
all follow the RA's advice on what is best practice, and that's got 
to be good for everyone.

I'm just glad that no-one at the RA or at Carnoustie Golf Links is 
following this thread because honestly, I think it could put back what 
we are trying to achieve by years.

Please, will the pair of you just cut it out and move on.

-- 
Cheers,
Gary
http://www.garyshort.org/
http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/

Re: [videoblogging] converting from mpeg4 to dv

2006-12-16 Thread David King

I'll also vouch for the simplicity of MP4CamToAVI. I use it with my Xacti on
Windows. SO, I do the MP4CamToAVI thing, then edit in Windows MovieMaker and
save as DV. Then I open it up in Quicktime Pro to turn the video into .mov
and the iTunes (can't remember the file extension thingie) formats.

Not too bad of a process!

David
http://www.davidleeking.com/etc - for my videos

On 12/15/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Sure - here's why.
 For whatever reason, Macs suck at editing mpeg4 video. If you try to set
 up
 a mpeg4 iMovie project or you change your sequence settings in FCP to
 match
 the Xacti settings, I've found it to be very unstable and prone to lots of
 rendering errors.
 The easy solution is to transcode the mpeg4 of the xacti to DV. It's
 pretty
 simple and you're probably already doing it if you are using iMovie. So in
 iMovie if you create a new DV project (this is the default) and then you
 drag clips into iMovie you'll notice that iMovie has to import them.
 What
 it's actually doing is converting the clips to DV.
 In FCP if you make a new sequence (DV by default) and you put your xacti
 clips into it they'll have to be rendered. Rendering the clips in this
 case really means converting them to DV.
 If you want to be really fancy about it you can make yourself a DV preset
 in
 compressor and then make that preset a droplet with is a little mini
 application. Then you just drop your clips on the compressor droplet and
 it
 will convert anything into DV.

 On Windows my only experience is with Movie Maker which actually does
 mpeg4
 video quite well. The one deal is that Movie Maker wants .avi files not
 .mp4
 so you have to use a free program called MP4CamToAVI to quickly put an avi
 wrapper on the files (this doesn't recompress them). Then you can edit
 them
 easily in Movie Maker. Actually the best little camera for use with Movie
 Maker is the Canon Powershots. They make mjpeg clips in an avi wrapper so
 you can just drag them into Movie Maker and start editing - takes 2
 seconds.

 plugBTW, all of that info is in our book - Secrets of
 Videoblogging/plug

 -Michael

 On 12/15/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] markus.sandy%40mac.com
 wrote:
 
  hey michael verdi,
 
  yesterday in the video conference you mentioned that you convert from
  mpeg4 to dv as part of your workflow when using your xacti
 
  can you elaborate on that a bit more? why and how you do you do that
  (i.e., settings)?
 
  do other folks do this too?
 
  here's a link to that part of the conference:
 
  http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=59255f-6714jt=00:20:24
 
  thanks
  markus
 
  ---
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  http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow
 
 
 

 --
 http://michaelverdi.com
 http://spinxpress.com
 http://freevlog.org
 Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs

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Re: [videoblogging] 10 Favorite Things Contest and cstar.com launch

2006-12-16 Thread Ed Smith

Hi I tried to check out cstar.com but it appears it won't work with
firefox.  OK, thanks and good luck, Ed.

On 12/15/06, fsinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi all,

 I've been working on this movie download service since July and it
 launched today:
 http://www.cstar.com

 ClickStar is trying to take a different approach from other online
 movie download services. Mainly, they are trying to create artist-
 created channels. I thought this group would be interested. Any
 thoughts on this approach?

 Also, as part of the launch, there is a Your 10 Favorite Things
 video contest on YouTube that vloggers may be interested in:
 http://www.youtube.com/contest/10FavoriteThings

 -Frank

  



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[videoblogging] Re: 10 Favorite Things Contest and cstar.com launch

2006-12-16 Thread David Howell

Wow. Not only does it not support Firefox, it doesnt support OSX.


Welcome to ClickStar! We are checking your system to verify that you
have the minimum requirements necessary to use the ClickStar service.

Incompatible Operating System
Unfortunately your current operating system is not supported by the
ClickStar service. ClickStar requires either Windows XP or Windows Vista.


Yeah...pfft. Good luck with that.

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ed Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi I tried to check out cstar.com but it appears it won't work with
 firefox.  OK, thanks and good luck, Ed.
 
 On 12/15/06, fsinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi all,
 
  I've been working on this movie download service since July and it
  launched today:
  http://www.cstar.com
 
  ClickStar is trying to take a different approach from other online
  movie download services. Mainly, they are trying to create artist-
  created channels. I thought this group would be interested. Any
  thoughts on this approach?
 
  Also, as part of the launch, there is a Your 10 Favorite Things
  video contest on YouTube that vloggers may be interested in:
  http://www.youtube.com/contest/10FavoriteThings
 
  -Frank
 
   
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: 10 Favorite Things Contest and cstar.com launch

Intereesting, on OSX here in the UK I always get redirected to the
clickstarinc site which just goes on about the corporate side, no
actual videos. So is this site blocked from working outside the USA?

From everything Ive read this site is so far another tragic case of
some big players not really getting it at all. 

So for those who can see the site, is this site anything to do with
videoblogging at all or just holywood movie stuff?

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Wow. Not only does it not support Firefox, it doesnt support OSX.
 
 
 Welcome to ClickStar! We are checking your system to verify that you
 have the minimum requirements necessary to use the ClickStar service.
 
 Incompatible Operating System
 Unfortunately your current operating system is not supported by the
 ClickStar service. ClickStar requires either Windows XP or Windows
Vista.
 
 
 Yeah...pfft. Good luck with that.
 
 David
 http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ed Smith edd66@ wrote:
 
  Hi I tried to check out cstar.com but it appears it won't work with
  firefox.  OK, thanks and good luck, Ed.
  
  On 12/15/06, fsinton fsinton@ wrote:
  
 Hi all,
  
   I've been working on this movie download service since July and it
   launched today:
   http://www.cstar.com
  
   ClickStar is trying to take a different approach from other online
   movie download services. Mainly, they are trying to create artist-
   created channels. I thought this group would be interested. Any
   thoughts on this approach?
  
   Also, as part of the launch, there is a Your 10 Favorite Things
   video contest on YouTube that vloggers may be interested in:
   http://www.youtube.com/contest/10FavoriteThings
  
   -Frank
  

  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: video conference

2006-12-16 Thread Markus Sandy

video conference in five minutes

proposed topics: hosting Terms of Service, vlogging in Malaysia

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/8d7c39-6763



On Dec 15, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Markus Sandy wrote:

 great topic idea

  maybe some of the blip folks can join us

  i think JD Lasica has an interesting project related to that - maybe 
 he
  can tell us more about that

  sat dec 16 at 9am-10am US pacific coast, 12noon-1pm eastern us, 1700
  GMT (5pm), 1am (sunday) Malaysia

 http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/8d7c39-6763

  On Dec 15, 2006, at 6:16 PM, johnleeke wrote:

what shall the topic be?
  
   I'd like to talk about Terms of Service for file servers like Blip 
 and
   YouTube. For example, at Blip:
  
   In accessing the Blip.tv site, you agree that you do so only for 
 your
   own personal, non-commercial use. Unless otherwise stated, you may 
 not
   distribute, transmit, broadcast, commercially exploit or modify in 
 any
   way the sites material or content or permit or assist any third 
 party
   to do the same.
  
   Does this allow me to display my video file from Blip on my own
   website which is a commercial site?
  
   Does this allow a third-party commercial site, that has my 
 permission,
   to display my vidoe file from Blip?
  
   Well, you get the idea. See you at the video conference.
  



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http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
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[videoblogging] Re: Fireant podcatcher for the zune

Well I think fireant did get there before apple, before itunes had
podcast/video podcast support, but at the time there was no video ipod
so it didnt look like such a glaring ommision on Apples part.

Here in the UK the Zune is not available. I wonder whether Microsoft
will launch it internationally if it doesnt catch on too well in the USA.

Another coproprate player in this field is Sony, with an aggregator
that works with the PSP, but last time I checked it wasnt free, and
Sony have real problems joining up their strategy and building a media
portal that compares to itunes etc.

At the opposite end of the spectrum there is the opensource democracy
player and their channel guide (which is at
https://channelguide.participatoryculture.org/ ). 

Any idea if the fireant directory will eventually be replaced by your
network2 stuff, or is this so far just a deal for the zune version of
fireants software?

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The coolest thing *I* heard mentioned about the Feed Your Zune is that
 it scooped Microsoft on giving Zune owners a usable way to catch
 downloadable content. It would be as if Josh and the team invented
 iTunes before Apple. 
 
 DISCLOSURE: We work professionally with Fireant.
 
 BACK DISCLOSURE: I'm a big fan of Josh's work, and Jay and everyone
 behind the heart and DNA of FireAnt. And I give their full team credit
 with making a big buzz on a device that is scraping to get coverage.
 
 --Chris...

[videoblogging] Re: RSS as Relationship Tool

Cheers for the reply. The blip.tv folks are a shining example of
people who listen very careful to feedback, so if there are any
contentious issues about exactly hw your service woks, I highly
recommend speaking to them to get another angle on things. blip.tv ask
uploads to specify a license for their works, which can be either
traditional copyright or creative commons. These licence details are
displayed on blips site when you watch the videos there. Ideally, and
to remail compliant with creative commons terms, you guys need to
carry this info across from blip.tv when you put videos from there in
your guide.

By embed I mean embed the video within pages of your site, so that the
video can be viewed in whole via pages on your site. You definately do
that, and thats where the creative commons  copyright angle Ive been
waffling about comes from.

Take for example the following from googles vlog page on copyright:

Google News is a good example of how Google protects copyright in
practice. We index the content of thousands of news sources online.
When users go to Google News, they see only headlines, snippets and
image thumbnails from the relevant news articles. If people want to
read the story, they must click through links in our results to the
original website.

So in a way you could say that embedding video in your site is the
equivalent of me taking the entire content of your blog and publishing
it on my site.  Some people are bound not to like it, which is where
the opt-in stuff comes into play. But by no means is this a black and
white issue, its just one of the areas you guys have to think
carefully about from time to time.

Anyway I guess Im ddone waffling on this for now, thanks for listening.

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Steve-
 
 Specific to Blip, I'd say yes without a doubt that we're friends.
 We've spent time with Mike and Dina, and have had them speak at our
 events. Mike and Dina (and Charles and the team) supported PodCamp
 Boston, my first free unconference. We have a relationship. 
 
 We have friends and relationships with Brightcove, and I'm building a
 relationship with Revver through Micki. 
 
 If you think about it, we're pushing more folks to view content hosted
 on Revver, giving Revver (or Blip or whoever) the credit for hosting
 the content, linking back to THEM, and also not interfering with any
 ad deals that Blip or Revver or *.host have put on the site. 
 
 So yes. 
 
 One reason we link back to you and DON'T embed or host your video is
 then we'd mess up your numbers, for people who want numbers. Another
 big huge company that uses a fruit logo sometimes stores server-side
 copies of your videos so that your RSS doesn't get an accurate count
 of people watching (I'm told- no direct proof). That means, if you DO
 care about numbers, they're skewed. 
 
 Instead, we let your numbers stay your numbers. 
 
 And Steve, I appreciate your thoughts and your tone. Coming off
 sounding angry is fine. You're still demonstrating intelligence and an
 interest in the logic and rationale. 
 
 It only sucks when people are just crapping on you for nothing and
 with no ability to discuss the particulars. 
 
 Anyone coming out to CES? I'd love to meet up and say hi. 
 
 --Chris...

[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Sorry, Gary, attacks require rebuttal. I've been minding my own business. Wish 
Mr. Baron 
could do the same.  He's long talked about leaving it up to the lawyers instead 
of the 
media, but now (since that hasn't worked in his favor), has decided to go the 
public route.

Hope this ends it.

http://amandacongdon.com/blog/?p=6


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Amanda Congdon wrote:
  
  
  Chuck, I am personally offended by that comment. Lady cats everywhere
  should be outraged. My cat, Mattie, 
 
 Yadda, yadda, yadda...
 
 Hey, isn't it about time that the Andrew and Amanda camps just declared 
 a score draw and applaud each other as they leave the field? What's done 
 is done, let's move on shall we? Apart from anything else, having two 
 vlogging superstars duking it out like this in public, makes us all look 
 like total amateurs.
 
 For example, I've managed to land a paying gig with the Carnoustie Golf 
 Links, vlogging their run up to The Open 2007. This event is the major 
 event in the pro golf calendar. We are talking about a multi-million 
 pound business here; something that puts vlogging up there as something 
 you just do when you are hosting an event like this. If I get it 
 right, then every host venue from now on will be doing the same, as they 
 all follow the RA's advice on what is best practice, and that's got 
 to be good for everyone.
 
 I'm just glad that no-one at the RA or at Carnoustie Golf Links is 
 following this thread because honestly, I think it could put back what 
 we are trying to achieve by years.
 
 Please, will the pair of you just cut it out and move on.
 
 -- 
 Cheers,
 Gary
 http://www.garyshort.org/
 http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fireant podcatcher for the zune

2006-12-16 Thread groups-yahoo-com

On the subject of sony.

Sony lacks any vision.

Their idea of a media player is something that plays their movies or
their music... like the completely proprietary PSP movie format, like
the completely proprietary minidisc, like the completely proprietary
a-trac format.  The only reason they've created a device that created
MP3's which they only started doing AFTER last christmas... is because
EVERYONE in the world was making *mp3 players* and the operative word
in *mp3 player* is *mp3*... logic even a child could figure  out.

Bottom line don't look for an integrated media player from Sony
anytime soon that plays mp4's, mp3's... various other common video
formats and aggregates audio and video podcasts and what not.  They
lack the vision to create a well rounded media player.  Sort of like
Microsoft and the Zune.

Ironicly like the zune, sony's hardware is capable, but the software
is crippleware. The worst part of all is that these platforms are
closed and proprietary so noone else can add functionality.

Instead I'd look for more creative makers like Nokia, which I've
been really impressed by lately for their n-series, and Creative, and
other smaller and more innovative players like the makers of the
Archos and other media players.

Nokia is doing two things right.

1) they've got vision... they're actually making devices capable of
playing all manner of media with a  wide spectrum of codecs and
formats

2) their platforms are open, either running symbian or linux... so
people can develop on them and extend them

On a side note I've got a a question for the Fireant crew, and the
democracy crew if they're listening.

I just got my hands on a Buffalo, Link Theatre.  You can think of it
like Apple's upcoming iTV. It's a set top box with no hard drive in
it. It just connects to other computers on the network and streams
video over the network to play on your TV / stereo / entertainment
center.

I've had it for less than a week and already I've fallen in love with it.

It seems to support a HUGE variety of media formats, with the sole
exception of .MOV, a big exception because most vlogs are in MOV.

Most interestingly it has a plug-in architecture which has added
support for iTunes and several other pieces of software.

Basically the itunes support allows me quick and easy access to all my
iTunes playlists on my TV. Which is VERY awesome for listening to
music and above all audio podcasts.  Oddly I haven't thought of trying
to use it to watch video podcasts through itunes until this moment,
but I'll have to try that out.

The question is... is fireant or democracy interested in making a
plugin for such devices. I think it's based on UPNP (universal plug
and play) standards... and the plugin architecture seems extremely
simple, so hopefully a little bit of work will give Fireant and or
democracy interface to a wide range of devices.

BTW... some final notes on the Buffalo Link Theatre... it's very easy
to use with Windows, Linux, and Mac... you just download a single
peice of software to your computer you want to connect to and
automatically you have access to the media on that computer.  It's so
simple I installed it on all my computers so I now have access to
media on all my computers from my entertainment center.

Also, it retails for about $200-$250 and of course comes with a remote.

Anyway, I didn't think the Buffalo Link theatre could compete with my
old powerbook titanium as it can play pretty much any audio or video
format... and run any aggregator (itunes, democracy, fireant)... but
the Link Theatre has something my powerbook doesn't have... a) a
remote, and b) a interface MADE for TV that can easily be read and
navigated on the TV.

Anyway, that's my random thought of the day.

Peace,

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 12/16/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I think fireant did get there before apple, before itunes had
 podcast/video podcast support, but at the time there was no video ipod
 so it didnt look like such a glaring ommision on Apples part.

 Here in the UK the Zune is not available. I wonder whether Microsoft
 will launch it internationally if it doesnt catch on too well in the USA.

 Another coproprate player in this field is Sony, with an aggregator
 that works with the PSP, but last time I checked it wasnt free, and
 Sony have real problems joining up their strategy and building a media
 portal that compares to itunes etc.

 At the opposite end of the spectrum there is the opensource democracy
 player and their channel guide (which is at
 https://channelguide.participatoryculture.org/ ).

 Any idea if the fireant directory will eventually be replaced by your
 network2 stuff, or is this so far just a deal for the zune version of
 fireants software?

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  The coolest thing *I* heard mentioned about the Feed Your Zune is that
  it scooped Microsoft on giving

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Input from the community?

2006-12-16 Thread Anne Walk

hello Nox,

it could be that i am just suspicious by nature but this is my  
critique based on a first impression of the site:

I think the pay to submit model is a bad one because it gives the  
appearance that the money given out is directly related to the  
submission fee. that is not necessarily bad but it would be nice to  
know if this is the case. if not, where is the money coming from? how  
is it meted out? what, if any, guarantees are in place that money is  
actually being given out at all or that the contest isn't rigged in  
some way? is it a ploy to get as many five dollar bills from as many  
people as possible? how can the participant be sure?

the overall feel of the site is amateur and the about page, with it's  
reference to oprah and habitat for humanity, seems like a way to  
legitimize the venture (kinda like name dropping of people you don't  
really know but have heard of).

i don't mean this to be harsh and i'm sure that's not the intention  
of the sitebut...it's the way it reads to me. it has the  
appearance of dodginess. even the name suggests something suspicious.  
it is, afterall, the name of a famous robber.


On 15-Dec-06, at 9:22 PM, Nox Dineen wrote:

 Jan, I wasn't clear about the winnings. I took the lazy route and  
 wrote $10k
 rather than adding the zeros. The winners in both Naughty and Nice
 categories will get $10,000.

 Would it be more appealing if we removed the whole wish granting  
 aspect and
 just made it about who could produce the best/funniest/most amazing  
 video?

 I do also agree that having people pay to submit is probably not  
 the best
 revenue model, but it was discussed before I began working with the  
 company
 and much of the team consider it a done deal already. The benefit  
 is that
 we're trying to encourage higher quality submissions, and having to  
 shell
 out the $5 means a person has to have some confidence that their  
 submission
 stands a chance at winning.

 Thanks for the comments. (And apologies about the laziness typing  
 numbers
 and URLs.)

 Nox

 On 12/15/06, Jan / The Faux Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Am not inspired by the concept in the least.
 
  Pay $5 in order to maybe get $10? I don't think so.
 
  Robin Hood works if Met Life is the sponsor. If Met Life is the  
 sponsor,
  then folks don't have to pay to enter.
 
  Glenda the Good Witch would work as wish-granting icon, but she's
  copyrighted.
 
  Year-round-Santa? Perpetual Santa?
 
  Good luck, though, I support the idea of making wishes come true
  wholeeartedly
 
  $10 wishes will be difficult to come by. Hot dogs  sodas for me  
 and two
  friends, please.
 
  Jan
 
  P.S. Were you to type in the whole http address one could just  
 click it in
  the email. http://www.robinhoodfund.com - like so.
 
  On 12/14/06, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]BillCammack% 
 40alum.mit.edu
  wrote:
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 
 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   Nox Dineen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I recently started working at an Internet startup that is  
 looking to
   create
a video website based around the concept of people submitting  
 wishes
  in
video format, and then granting the wishes with the most  
 votes on a
   weekly
or monthly basis. The site is at www.robinhoodfund.com  
 (although we're
considering moving away from the Robin Hood theme), and quite  
 frankly
  I
   hate
it. It's ugly, user hostile and doesn't exactly prompt immediate
  action.
  
   I agree that Robin Hood is a poor choice for something like  
 this. :D
  The
   idea is a good one,
   but Robin Hood implies strongarming funds from one person in  
 order to
   give them to
   another person. The question then is who's getting  
 strongarmed? and
  why
   do they
   'deserve' to lose out so someone else can benefit?
  
   Tell whomever thought that up to watch the movie again and pick a
   different hero. :D
  
   --
   Bill C.
   http://ems.blip.tv
  
  
  
 
  --
  The Faux Press - better than real
  http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
 
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 -- 
 Nox 2.0 (blog) -- http://www.noxdineen.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: RSS as Relationship Tool

2006-12-16 Thread Devlon Duthie

For the record sull, those feeds came in from blip, vimeo, vsocial, etc. 
via our ping service.  The other end (blip, vsocial) had to send us the 
data...more like being fed than sucking ;)  It is an old service that 
isn't in action anymore.

And yes, some of them are a pain now and that's an appropriate nickname

As far as the rss thing, yeah if you put it out there then anyone can 
grab it, but one would hope that you have your cc licensing in it and we 
all hope that the site that is consuming it is adhering to your license.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie

http://mefeedia.com | Find Videoblogs
http://devlonduthie.com | My Site



sull wrote:
 well i will chime in *again*.

 i have nothing truly against network2.
 they communicate here and seem like smart, decent people in this space.
 of course, that is also in best business interests but hey you cant be
 too skeptical otherwise you would be... paranoid.

 i've claimed this before, but its important to repeat it especially when a
 thread like this invites it.

 vlogdir.com is OPT-IN.  from day 1 in April 2005, the directory has been a
 community-driven directory.
 I didnt populate it.  YOU did.  and I am proud of that because i think it is
 an interesting gauge of this vlog community.
 I also think that it works mostly as a passive filter.  Meaning, people
 actually take a few moments to submit their videoblog and vodcast (rss
 feed).  That means that they think they have something good to share with
 others.  so they choose to take some measures to do that sharing.
 vlogdir is always a top 10-20 result in google... so it helps somewhat.

 I also believe that vlogmap.org has worked this way for almost as long.

 though i totally love mefeedia they are not only opt-in and they
 actually went through a period when they sucked in a boat-load of feeds from
 other services like blip, vimeo, vsocial, youtube etc.  i call most of those
 feeds orphans.
 but mefeedia is like the best overall vlog/feed aggregator i think and they
 do a tremendous amount of right stuff so, this is in no way to traject
 anything negative on mefeedia.  they rock and when i can, i help them out
 with feedback.

 fireant.tv is opt-in too but last i checked, they also add in their own
 selections as well.  the weird part is the fact that any feed you enter in
 the app, gets added to a database as part of a review queue and if it
 looks tasty, it will end up on the web directory.  i think you can opt-out
 of that happening on mac version.  but many feeds on fireant.tv are added by
 fireant themselves as well as the community (whether intended or not).

 the only time i truly think its nasty to add feeds without opt-in is when
 some site appears out of nowhere and sucks in feeds and wraps ads around
 everything.
 they are obviously just trying to rank high in search results and make a few
 bucks.  no value back to the community and no value to the publishers.  its
 cheap and its dirty.  and it creates a bad reputation too.

 RSS... yes if you put out a feed, as a general rule you are syndicating your
 content to anyone on the web.  Preferably, you want that content grabbed by
 an audience, not by random aggregator sites.  But you also realize that some
 of the reputable aggregator sites actually do help you gain exposure and get
 traffic and distribute your media.  More people can subscribe to you.  It
 can be a very good thing if you actually want to spread your media.
 But you should respect the aggregator and if you dont, you should be able to
 tell them to remove your content.  and they should respond asap.

 network2 seems like they are trying to add value to the community.  i think
 they might succeed.  we'll see.

 vlogdir.com... well the project was one of the originals to come out of
 this community and its in auto-pilot.  it still serves and represents
 the vlogosphere but i have not personally focused on evolving the
 project.  after all, it is what it is.  what else can it be?  i promote
 vlogs that i like a lot... on the site and elsewhere.  and every once in a
 while i need to delete some vietnam tourism site etc but for the most part,
 the directory has been problem free.  thats a success story.  to me at
 least.

 maybe in 2007, i will carve a little time out to improve the site.

 in mean time, make sure any agg-newcomers work like mefeedia, vlogdir,
 fireant, vlogmap, blip.  the originals who give full attribution and
 add value to the community.  oh, i suppose network2 as well ;)

 sull


 On 12/14/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   i think i see a difference

 aren't fireant and mefeedia opt-in ?

 also, i don't think they *feature* sites from people who wish otherwise

 On Dec 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Heath wrote:

 
 I don't see what you are doing as any different than Fireant, or
 MeFeedia, etc. You are providing a way to view video on the web,
 vlogs, etc.at least you are providing link backs and other
 things,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Oh boy, digging a deeper hole for yourself.

ABC News is exactly the people we were in deep talks with. ABC NEws  
and ABC Family. Its all under Dinsey and we were in project talks  
with all. You have just lied again, mark my words here. I will  
release the document to my blog then.

The AAA story? Jeze, you have not told the relevant truth, documents  
are forthcoming. I spent months on this project and it was my sponsor  
relationship you took for Ford. You quit before the deal was done.  
You were only able to complete the deal for no money. My deal was for  
$250,000. No wonder you were able to close it.

HBO contacted Rocketboom and wanted to do a show with Rocketboom. You  
told them I didnt want to. I said I did. I will provide docs,  
forthcoming.

Finally, now we can get somewhere.

Drew
http://www.rocketboom.com
http://www.dembot.com


On Dec 16, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:

 Sorry, Gary, attacks require rebuttal. I've been minding my own  
 business. Wish Mr. Baron
 could do the same. He's long talked about leaving it up to the  
 lawyers instead of the
 media, but now (since that hasn't worked in his favor), has decided  
 to go the public route.

 Hope this ends it.

 http://amandacongdon.com/blog/?p=6

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Amanda Congdon wrote:
  
  
   Chuck, I am personally offended by that comment. Lady cats  
 everywhere
   should be outraged. My cat, Mattie,
 
  Yadda, yadda, yadda...
 
  Hey, isn't it about time that the Andrew and Amanda camps just  
 declared
  a score draw and applaud each other as they leave the field?  
 What's done
  is done, let's move on shall we? Apart from anything else, having  
 two
  vlogging superstars duking it out like this in public, makes us  
 all look
  like total amateurs.
 
  For example, I've managed to land a paying gig with the  
 Carnoustie Golf
  Links, vlogging their run up to The Open 2007. This event is the  
 major
  event in the pro golf calendar. We are talking about a multi-million
  pound business here; something that puts vlogging up there as  
 something
  you just do when you are hosting an event like this. If I get it
  right, then every host venue from now on will be doing the same,  
 as they
  all follow the RA's advice on what is best practice, and  
 that's got
  to be good for everyone.
 
  I'm just glad that no-one at the RA or at Carnoustie Golf Links is
  following this thread because honestly, I think it could put back  
 what
  we are trying to achieve by years.
 
  Please, will the pair of you just cut it out and move on.
 
  --
  Cheers,
  Gary
  http://www.garyshort.org/
  http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/
 


 



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[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Call up ABC. We were working on shows for ABC Family that I was never
intended to host. Isn't that right? Anyone at ABC will attest to that.
They were trying to to figure out what department to put us in and
that's where we landed. ABC Family.

Ari, my agent at Endeavor, turned HBO onto me. HBO never approached
Rocketboom directly. They never wanted you. They wanted my
personality. I considered bring you along for the ride
IF things panned out and if HBO was game, but since there was only one
meeting at that point it was far from a sure thing... sure glad you
never got involved.

As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to secure
sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract that
you hid from me? You did hide a lot of business stuff.



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh boy, digging a deeper hole for yourself.
 
 ABC News is exactly the people we were in deep talks with. ABC NEws  
 and ABC Family. Its all under Dinsey and we were in project talks  
 with all. You have just lied again, mark my words here. I will  
 release the document to my blog then.
 
 The AAA story? Jeze, you have not told the relevant truth, documents  
 are forthcoming. I spent months on this project and it was my sponsor  
 relationship you took for Ford. You quit before the deal was done.  
 You were only able to complete the deal for no money. My deal was for  
 $250,000. No wonder you were able to close it.
 
 HBO contacted Rocketboom and wanted to do a show with Rocketboom. You  
 told them I didnt want to. I said I did. I will provide docs,  
 forthcoming.
 
 Finally, now we can get somewhere.
 
 Drew
 http://www.rocketboom.com
 http://www.dembot.com
 
 
 On Dec 16, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
 
  Sorry, Gary, attacks require rebuttal. I've been minding my own  
  business. Wish Mr. Baron
  could do the same. He's long talked about leaving it up to the  
  lawyers instead of the
  media, but now (since that hasn't worked in his favor), has decided  
  to go the public route.
 
  Hope this ends it.
 
  http://amandacongdon.com/blog/?p=6
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gary Short gary@ wrote:
  
   Amanda Congdon wrote:
   
   
Chuck, I am personally offended by that comment. Lady cats  
  everywhere
should be outraged. My cat, Mattie,
  
   Yadda, yadda, yadda...
  
   Hey, isn't it about time that the Andrew and Amanda camps just  
  declared
   a score draw and applaud each other as they leave the field?  
  What's done
   is done, let's move on shall we? Apart from anything else, having  
  two
   vlogging superstars duking it out like this in public, makes us  
  all look
   like total amateurs.
  
   For example, I've managed to land a paying gig with the  
  Carnoustie Golf
   Links, vlogging their run up to The Open 2007. This event is the  
  major
   event in the pro golf calendar. We are talking about a multi-million
   pound business here; something that puts vlogging up there as  
  something
   you just do when you are hosting an event like this. If I get it
   right, then every host venue from now on will be doing the same,  
  as they
   all follow the RA's advice on what is best practice, and  
  that's got
   to be good for everyone.
  
   I'm just glad that no-one at the RA or at Carnoustie Golf Links is
   following this thread because honestly, I think it could put back  
  what
   we are trying to achieve by years.
  
   Please, will the pair of you just cut it out and move on.
  
   --
   Cheers,
   Gary
   http://www.garyshort.org/
   http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

The deal I was trying to secure was for $250,000

You landed the deal for $0.

Nice one.

On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:

 As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to secure
 sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract that
 you hid from me? You did hide a lot of business stuff.



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[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Yup. You are right on that one. I wasn't doing it for the money.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The deal I was trying to secure was for $250,000
 
 You landed the deal for $0.
 
 Nice one.
 
 On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
 
  As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to secure
  sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract that
  you hid from me? You did hide a lot of business stuff.
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

As you can see, I spent legal fees on the HBO opportunity that was  
meant for Rocketboom but yea, as I said, you stole it away for yourself.

Lie #2. Resolved.

Begin forwarded message:
 From: Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: June 2, 2006 2:20:46 PM EDT
 To: Thompson, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Johnson, Channing [EMAIL PROTECTED], andrew michael  
 baron [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Congdon  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent

 Bryan and Channing,

 Thank you for getting back to me on this so quickly. As it turns  
 out, the HBO meeting is now happening on Monday rather than later  
 today. The introductory meeting between Ari, Andrew and me is still  
 on as scheduled at 3pm Pacific. How does this change the order of  
 events, if at all?

 Yes, please prepare Matthew's termination letter.

 Thanks again,

 Amanda

 On 6/2/06, Thompson, Bryan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Amanda:

 I spoke to Channing about this.  We think that your analysis of the  
 situation is spot-on accurate and that it would be appropriate for  
 you now to terminate your relationship with Matthew.

 Accordingly, we believe that you should inform Matthew, both orally  
 and in writing, that your relationship with him is now terminated.   
 You should also inform him that he is not to participate in the HBO  
 conference call, nor is he to contact or speak with HBO or Endeavor  
 concerning you, Andrew, or Rocketboom.

 Let me know if you would like us to prepare a letter to Matthew  
 concerning this.

 In order to assure that Matthew is not on the call, you will need  
 to contact him orally before the call.  Even if we sent a letter  
 right now, he might not actually read it before the HBO call  
 begins.  When you speak to him you can let him know that a letter  
 will be coming.

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
 Behalf Of Amanda Congdon
 Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:19 PM
 To: Johnson, Channing; Thompson, Bryan; andrew michael baron
 Cc: Jim Congdon
 Subject: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent

 Hello everyone,

 I spoke with Matthew Lesher this evening. I asked him why Ari  
 Emanuel would be under the impression he was Rocketboom's manger.  
 He said he didn't know, that maybe Ari just assumed as much. He  
 then said, in fact, that both he and Ari had no interest in the  
 management of Rocketboom. He also said that because Ari (and thus  
 Endeavor) were not involved in the book deal, that he felt Ari was  
 being aggressive in wanting 10% equity in Rocketboom. I asked him  
 why he then jumped on the bandwagon and asked for the same thing  
 (on Friday Matthew brought up getting 10% too). He started back  
 peddling and saying that we were just beginning the conversation,  
 that nothing had been decided. I told him it sounded like he didn't  
 have my best interests in mind, and he said no, he was just  
 presenting all the options. If he truly had my best interest in  
 mind, he would have told me he thought Ari was being aggressive on  
 Friday, not now after I pressed him about it. Bottom line is that I  
 don't trust him, so I believe the relationship will have to be  
 terminated. I would love to hear what everyone else thinks.

 The big issue now is that I have a conference call today (Friday)  
 scheduled with Caroline Strauss at HBO to workshop show ideas at  
 2:30 Pacific, and I don't want Matthew in on that.  Ari is the only  
 one that had anything to do with setting that up. Matthew also has  
 included himself in an introductory conversation that was supposed  
 to happen directly before the HBO meeting, with Andrew, Ari and  
 me.  Andrew just sent me an email suggesting perhaps the talk with  
 Matthew occur very shortly before the HBO meeting is scheduled, so  
 as not to give Matthew time to backlash before the meeting. Help  
 please!!

 Thanks so much for all of your guidance,

 Amanda

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[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

This proves what? That I (not you) had an HBO meeting and that I fired
my manager?


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you can see, I spent legal fees on the HBO opportunity that was  
 meant for Rocketboom but yea, as I said, you stole it away for yourself.
 
 Lie #2. Resolved.
 
 Begin forwarded message:
  From: Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: June 2, 2006 2:20:46 PM EDT
  To: Thompson, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Johnson, Channing [EMAIL PROTECTED], andrew michael  
  baron [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Congdon  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
 
  Bryan and Channing,
 
  Thank you for getting back to me on this so quickly. As it turns  
  out, the HBO meeting is now happening on Monday rather than later  
  today. The introductory meeting between Ari, Andrew and me is still  
  on as scheduled at 3pm Pacific. How does this change the order of  
  events, if at all?
 
  Yes, please prepare Matthew's termination letter.
 
  Thanks again,
 
  Amanda
 
  On 6/2/06, Thompson, Bryan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Amanda:
 
  I spoke to Channing about this.  We think that your analysis of the  
  situation is spot-on accurate and that it would be appropriate for  
  you now to terminate your relationship with Matthew.
 
  Accordingly, we believe that you should inform Matthew, both orally  
  and in writing, that your relationship with him is now terminated.   
  You should also inform him that he is not to participate in the HBO  
  conference call, nor is he to contact or speak with HBO or Endeavor  
  concerning you, Andrew, or Rocketboom.
 
  Let me know if you would like us to prepare a letter to Matthew  
  concerning this.
 
  In order to assure that Matthew is not on the call, you will need  
  to contact him orally before the call.  Even if we sent a letter  
  right now, he might not actually read it before the HBO call  
  begins.  When you speak to him you can let him know that a letter  
  will be coming.
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
  Behalf Of Amanda Congdon
  Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:19 PM
  To: Johnson, Channing; Thompson, Bryan; andrew michael baron
  Cc: Jim Congdon
  Subject: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  I spoke with Matthew Lesher this evening. I asked him why Ari  
  Emanuel would be under the impression he was Rocketboom's manger.  
  He said he didn't know, that maybe Ari just assumed as much. He  
  then said, in fact, that both he and Ari had no interest in the  
  management of Rocketboom. He also said that because Ari (and thus  
  Endeavor) were not involved in the book deal, that he felt Ari was  
  being aggressive in wanting 10% equity in Rocketboom. I asked him  
  why he then jumped on the bandwagon and asked for the same thing  
  (on Friday Matthew brought up getting 10% too). He started back  
  peddling and saying that we were just beginning the conversation,  
  that nothing had been decided. I told him it sounded like he didn't  
  have my best interests in mind, and he said no, he was just  
  presenting all the options. If he truly had my best interest in  
  mind, he would have told me he thought Ari was being aggressive on  
  Friday, not now after I pressed him about it. Bottom line is that I  
  don't trust him, so I believe the relationship will have to be  
  terminated. I would love to hear what everyone else thinks.
 
  The big issue now is that I have a conference call today (Friday)  
  scheduled with Caroline Strauss at HBO to workshop show ideas at  
  2:30 Pacific, and I don't want Matthew in on that.  Ari is the only  
  one that had anything to do with setting that up. Matthew also has  
  included himself in an introductory conversation that was supposed  
  to happen directly before the HBO meeting, with Andrew, Ari and  
  me.  Andrew just sent me an email suggesting perhaps the talk with  
  Matthew occur very shortly before the HBO meeting is scheduled, so  
  as not to give Matthew time to backlash before the meeting. Help  
  please!!
 
  Thanks so much for all of your guidance,
 
  Amanda
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

The best way to avoid factual statements is to ask questions.

On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:

 This proves what? That I (not you) had an HBO meeting and that I fired
 my manager?

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  As you can see, I spent legal fees on the HBO opportunity that was
  meant for Rocketboom but yea, as I said, you stole it away for  
 yourself.
 
  Lie #2. Resolved.
 
  Begin forwarded message:
   From: Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: June 2, 2006 2:20:46 PM EDT
   To: Thompson, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: Johnson, Channing [EMAIL PROTECTED], andrew michael
   baron [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Congdon
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
  
   Bryan and Channing,
  
   Thank you for getting back to me on this so quickly. As it turns
   out, the HBO meeting is now happening on Monday rather than later
   today. The introductory meeting between Ari, Andrew and me is  
 still
   on as scheduled at 3pm Pacific. How does this change the order of
   events, if at all?
  
   Yes, please prepare Matthew's termination letter.
  
   Thanks again,
  
   Amanda
  
   On 6/2/06, Thompson, Bryan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Amanda:
  
   I spoke to Channing about this. We think that your analysis of the
   situation is spot-on accurate and that it would be appropriate for
   you now to terminate your relationship with Matthew.
  
   Accordingly, we believe that you should inform Matthew, both  
 orally
   and in writing, that your relationship with him is now terminated.
   You should also inform him that he is not to participate in the  
 HBO
   conference call, nor is he to contact or speak with HBO or  
 Endeavor
   concerning you, Andrew, or Rocketboom.
  
   Let me know if you would like us to prepare a letter to Matthew
   concerning this.
  
   In order to assure that Matthew is not on the call, you will need
   to contact him orally before the call. Even if we sent a letter
   right now, he might not actually read it before the HBO call
   begins. When you speak to him you can let him know that a letter
   will be coming.
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of Amanda Congdon
   Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:19 PM
   To: Johnson, Channing; Thompson, Bryan; andrew michael baron
   Cc: Jim Congdon
   Subject: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
  
   Hello everyone,
  
   I spoke with Matthew Lesher this evening. I asked him why Ari
   Emanuel would be under the impression he was Rocketboom's manger.
   He said he didn't know, that maybe Ari just assumed as much. He
   then said, in fact, that both he and Ari had no interest in the
   management of Rocketboom. He also said that because Ari (and thus
   Endeavor) were not involved in the book deal, that he felt Ari was
   being aggressive in wanting 10% equity in Rocketboom. I asked  
 him
   why he then jumped on the bandwagon and asked for the same thing
   (on Friday Matthew brought up getting 10% too). He started back
   peddling and saying that we were just beginning the conversation,
   that nothing had been decided. I told him it sounded like he  
 didn't
   have my best interests in mind, and he said no, he was just
   presenting all the options. If he truly had my best interest in
   mind, he would have told me he thought Ari was being aggressive on
   Friday, not now after I pressed him about it. Bottom line is  
 that I
   don't trust him, so I believe the relationship will have to be
   terminated. I would love to hear what everyone else thinks.
  
   The big issue now is that I have a conference call today (Friday)
   scheduled with Caroline Strauss at HBO to workshop show ideas at
   2:30 Pacific, and I don't want Matthew in on that. Ari is the only
   one that had anything to do with setting that up. Matthew also has
   included himself in an introductory conversation that was supposed
   to happen directly before the HBO meeting, with Andrew, Ari and
   me. Andrew just sent me an email suggesting perhaps the talk with
   Matthew occur very shortly before the HBO meeting is scheduled, so
   as not to give Matthew time to backlash before the meeting. Help
   please!!
  
   Thanks so much for all of your guidance,
  
   Amanda
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Deirdre Straughan

Guys, this isn't helping either of you. My strong advice as a businesswoman
and (I hope) friend is DO NOT discuss this stuff here OR on your blogs. If I
were a potential sponsor watching all this, I'd be extremely uncomfortable
about the sensitive details getting batted around.

And that is the last I'm going to say on the subject. Moderators, where are
you?




On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yup. You are right on that one. I wasn't doing it for the money.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 andrew michael baron
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The deal I was trying to secure was for $250,000
 
  You landed the deal for $0.
 
  Nice one.
 
  On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
 
   As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to secure
   sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract that
   you hid from me? You did hide a lot of business stuff.
 
 
 
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-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

I agree completely Deirdre. Where are the moderators?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys, this isn't helping either of you. My strong advice as a
businesswoman
 and (I hope) friend is DO NOT discuss this stuff here OR on your
blogs. If I
 were a potential sponsor watching all this, I'd be extremely
uncomfortable
 about the sensitive details getting batted around.
 
 And that is the last I'm going to say on the subject. Moderators,
where are
 you?
 
 
 
 
 On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Yup. You are right on that one. I wasn't doing it for the money.
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  andrew michael baron
  andrew@ wrote:
  
   The deal I was trying to secure was for $250,000
  
   You landed the deal for $0.
  
   Nice one.
  
   On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:
  
As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to secure
sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract
that
you hid from me? You did hide a lot of business stuff.
  
  
  
   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
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 best regards,
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 www.tvblob.com (work)
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Markus Sandy


On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

 Moderators, where are you?


this one is sitting back watching this tread with great amusement.  
thanks for the entertainment.

in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez shared.  that was 
the highlight.

i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for a long long time and 
this one was actually a real treat.

for those who wish it would stop: please just ignore it.

btw, a moderator started this thread.

and another moderator already set it on fire.

what more do you want?

play nice kids :)



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RE: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Robert Scoble

I agree. This isn't impressing me in the least about either party.

 

I don't really care anymore. You both are polluting this group and it needs
to stop, and stop now.

 

Take it onto your blogs where, if we care, we can read your slings at each
other.

 

Robert

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Digital Buddha
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:49 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

 

Andrew and Amada, I admire your work both when you were working together,
and now independently of one another. I am embarrassed for the two of you
with your public display. The court of public opinion is not the one to
discuss this. It may not seem like poor judgement today to either of you,
but you may be thinking much differently a year or two from now.

Please, please, please take it off line. You are now at the stage of
virtual shouting. I am waiting for objects to start to fly. It will just
get uglier. I hope you and your respective legal counsel will be able to
settle this swiftly.

On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:amanda%40amandacongdon.com n.com wrote:

 This proves what? That I (not you) had an HBO meeting and that I fired
 my manager?

 --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 andrew michael baron
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  As you can see, I spent legal fees on the HBO opportunity that was
  meant for Rocketboom but yea, as I said, you stole it away for yourself.
 
  Lie #2. Resolved.
 
  Begin forwarded message:
   From: Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: June 2, 2006 2:20:46 PM EDT
   To: Thompson, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: Johnson, Channing [EMAIL PROTECTED], andrew michael
   baron [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Congdon
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
  
   Bryan and Channing,
  
   Thank you for getting back to me on this so quickly. As it turns
   out, the HBO meeting is now happening on Monday rather than later
   today. The introductory meeting between Ari, Andrew and me is still
   on as scheduled at 3pm Pacific. How does this change the order of
   events, if at all?
  
   Yes, please prepare Matthew's termination letter.
  
   Thanks again,
  
   Amanda
  
   On 6/2/06, Thompson, Bryan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Amanda:
  
   I spoke to Channing about this. We think that your analysis of the
   situation is spot-on accurate and that it would be appropriate for
   you now to terminate your relationship with Matthew.
  
   Accordingly, we believe that you should inform Matthew, both orally
   and in writing, that your relationship with him is now terminated.
   You should also inform him that he is not to participate in the HBO
   conference call, nor is he to contact or speak with HBO or Endeavor
   concerning you, Andrew, or Rocketboom.
  
   Let me know if you would like us to prepare a letter to Matthew
   concerning this.
  
   In order to assure that Matthew is not on the call, you will need
   to contact him orally before the call. Even if we sent a letter
   right now, he might not actually read it before the HBO call
   begins. When you speak to him you can let him know that a letter
   will be coming.
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

   Behalf Of Amanda Congdon
   Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:19 PM
   To: Johnson, Channing; Thompson, Bryan; andrew michael baron
   Cc: Jim Congdon
   Subject: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
  
   Hello everyone,
  
   I spoke with Matthew Lesher this evening. I asked him why Ari
   Emanuel would be under the impression he was Rocketboom's manger.
   He said he didn't know, that maybe Ari just assumed as much. He
   then said, in fact, that both he and Ari had no interest in the
   management of Rocketboom. He also said that because Ari (and thus
   Endeavor) were not involved in the book deal, that he felt Ari was
   being aggressive in wanting 10% equity in Rocketboom. I asked him
   why he then jumped on the bandwagon and asked for the same thing
   (on Friday Matthew brought up getting 10% too). He started back
   peddling and saying that we were just beginning the conversation,
   that nothing had been decided. I told him it sounded like he didn't
   have my best interests in mind, and he said no, he was just
   presenting all the options. If he truly had my best interest in
   mind, he would have told me he thought Ari was being aggressive on
   Friday, not now after I pressed him about it. Bottom line is that I
   don't trust him, so I believe the relationship will have to be
   terminated. I would love to hear what everyone else thinks.
  
   The big issue now is that I have a conference call today (Friday)
   scheduled with Caroline Strauss at HBO to workshop show ideas at
   2:30 Pacific, and I don't want Matthew in on that. Ari is the only
   one that had anything to do

[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread francisco_daum

C'mon guys! If you can't help it, at least don't hurt it. Is it really
worth it burn all these bridges? There's plenty to go around. There's
money to be made. Not only vloggers with good intent read these
messeges but industry types. Be well, another day another dollar. Take
one of them chill pills.

Francisco
franciscodaum.blogspot.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 
  
 
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of andrew michael baron
 Sent: 14 December 2006 22:39
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
 
  
 
 Apparently, not having your own ideas runs in the family. ;)
 
 Andrew, you are really starting to get on my nerves now with this
carping; it is
 so childish, it's like listening to my kids arguing over who has
been given the
 most veg and how it's s unfair. For goodness sake stop being
such a baby.
 The sad fact of business is that people come together, they do great
work and
 sometimes they disagree and go their own way - that's life Andrew,
get over it.
 The thing is there is no doubt you have talent, but you are not
encouraging
 anyone to reach out to you with a new business idea/partnership with
this
 behavior. People will be reading these outbursts of yours and saying to
 themselves, is this what it is like if it doesn't work out? and
they'll be
 giving you a big body swerve.
 
 While we are on the subject, stop pretending that Rocketboom was
some huge
 intellectual breakthrough on your part, that it was all your
wonderful idea.
 What utter nonsense. Entertaining though Rocketboom was (and still
is) there
 wasn't a single new idea there. I mean, taking a look at the more
quirky aspects
 of the news? Been done. Fronting the show with a good looking,
intelligent and
 charismatic  woman. Been done. Hosting the show as a video cast for
download?
 Been done. So what was your idea exactly?
 
 Like I said though, I don't want to pour oil on troubled waters, as
I think we
 are all tired of hearing about it - just please, get over yourself
will you?
 
 Cheers,
 Gary
 http://www.garyshort.org
 http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Indeed. All Ive learnt from this is that if I were moving and shaking,
wheeling and dealing in the new or old media world, I wouldnt touch
either of these characters with a bargepole.

Also I am not a lawyer so Im not entirely sure if its relevent, but in
the light of recent emails disclosed, can I draw attention to this
part of Yahoo's terms of service:

You agree not to:

e) upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any
Content that you do not have a right to make available under any law
or under contractual or fiduciary relationships (such as inside
information, proprietary and confidential information learned or
disclosed as part of employment relationships or under nondisclosure
agreements)

After the recent firing of the TechcrunchUK eeditor, and public bloggy
 fallout that followed, Ive seen a blog or two musing as to whether
very public fallouts with details that usually remain private being
aired to the world, are going to go with the territory. But I dont
think the net changes the legal  capitalist reasons why these things
are not traditionally discussed so openly, or at least not until a
'safe amount of time has passed'.

I'll admit to having an ambivalent attitude towards these sorts of
spats, its so wrong and yet there is clearly somthing in human nature
that makes this stuff 'interesting', I fall foul of the temptation to
join in. 

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree. This isn't impressing me in the least about either party.
 
  
 
 I don't really care anymore. You both are polluting this group and
it needs
 to stop, and stop now.
 
  
 
 Take it onto your blogs where, if we care, we can read your slings
at each
 other.
 
  
 
 Robert
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Digital Buddha
 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:49 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
 
  
 
 Andrew and Amada, I admire your work both when you were working
together,
 and now independently of one another. I am embarrassed for the two
of you
 with your public display. The court of public opinion is not the one to
 discuss this. It may not seem like poor judgement today to either of
you,
 but you may be thinking much differently a year or two from now.
 
 Please, please, please take it off line. You are now at the stage of
 virtual shouting. I am waiting for objects to start to fly. It
will just
 get uglier. I hope you and your respective legal counsel will be able to
 settle this swiftly.
 
 On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:amanda%40amandacongdon.com n.com wrote:
 
  This proves what? That I (not you) had an HBO meeting and that I fired
  my manager?
 
  --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  andrew michael baron
  andrew@ wrote:
  
   As you can see, I spent legal fees on the HBO opportunity that was
   meant for Rocketboom but yea, as I said, you stole it away for
yourself.
  
   Lie #2. Resolved.
  
   Begin forwarded message:
From: Amanda Congdon amanda@
Date: June 2, 2006 2:20:46 PM EDT
To: Thompson, Bryan bthompson@
Cc: Johnson, Channing cjohnson@, andrew michael
baron andrew@, Jim Congdon
congdonjames@
Subject: Re: Matthew Lesher, semi-urgent
   
Bryan and Channing,
   
Thank you for getting back to me on this so quickly. As it turns
out, the HBO meeting is now happening on Monday rather than later
today. The introductory meeting between Ari, Andrew and me is
still
on as scheduled at 3pm Pacific. How does this change the order of
events, if at all?
   
Yes, please prepare Matthew's termination letter.
   
Thanks again,
   
Amanda
   
On 6/2/06, Thompson, Bryan  bthompson@ wrote:
Amanda:
   
I spoke to Channing about this. We think that your analysis of the
situation is spot-on accurate and that it would be appropriate for
you now to terminate your relationship with Matthew.
   
Accordingly, we believe that you should inform Matthew, both
orally
and in writing, that your relationship with him is now terminated.
You should also inform him that he is not to participate in
the HBO
conference call, nor is he to contact or speak with HBO or
Endeavor
concerning you, Andrew, or Rocketboom.
   
Let me know if you would like us to prepare a letter to Matthew
concerning this.
   
In order to assure that Matthew is not on the call, you will need
to contact him orally before the call. Even if we sent a letter
right now, he might not actually read it before the HBO call
begins. When you speak to him you can let him know that a letter
will be coming.
   
From: amazingamanda@ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 
Behalf Of Amanda Congdon
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:19 PM
To:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Deirdre Straughan

I guess it has entertainment value for some, but they're hurting themselves
more than each other.

You know how in movies you see someone doing something really stupid and
wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or hurt, or killed? Like
when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in Desperate Housewives and you
can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those scenes - they hurt my
stomach, I get up and walk out.

Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.


On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

  Moderators, where are you?
 

 this one is sitting back watching this tread with great amusement.
 thanks for the entertainment.

 in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez shared. that was
 the highlight.

 i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for a long long time and
 this one was actually a real treat.

 for those who wish it would stop: please just ignore it.

 btw, a moderator started this thread.

 and another moderator already set it on fire.

 what more do you want?

 play nice kids :)

 ---
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Jeffrey Taylor

Girls! Girls! You're ALL pretty!

On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Ryanne,

I think considering Andrew's onslaught of attacks have been unprovoked and

unsubstantiated, it might not be a bad idea to ban him. All I have ever
done is defend
myself.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i don't think it's really up to the moderators to tell you both to just
shut
up.

what are the mods going to do
ban you guys from the list?

if that's what you want.

On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I agree completely Deirdre. Where are the moderators?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
Deirdre Straughan
deirdre.straughan@ wrote:

Guys, this isn't helping either of you. My strong advice as a
businesswoman
and (I hope) friend is DO NOT discuss this stuff here OR on your
blogs. If I
were a potential sponsor watching all this, I'd be extremely
uncomfortable
about the sensitive details getting batted around.

And that is the last I'm going to say on the subject. Moderators,
where are
you?

On 12/16/06, Amanda Congdon amanda@ wrote:

Yup. You are right on that one. I wasn't doing it for the money.

--- In
videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
andrew michael baron
andrew@ wrote:

The deal I was trying to secure was for $250,000

You landed the deal for $0.

Nice one.

On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:

As far as AAA goes, just another example of you failing to
secure
sponsorship. No contract, no deal. Unless there was a contract
that
you hid from me? You did hide a lot of business stuff.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Zenophon Abraham

Meanwhile, Amanda marches on.  She's on CNN's
program The Future right now.  And she's doing well.
 Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
working out and holiday shopping...

Zennie

--- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
 they're hurting themselves
 more than each other.
 
 You know how in movies you see someone doing
 something really stupid and
 wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or
 hurt, or killed? Like
 when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in
 Desperate Housewives and you
 can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those
 scenes - they hurt my
 stomach, I get up and walk out.
 
 Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.
 
 
 On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan
 wrote:
 
   Moderators, where are you?
  
 
  this one is sitting back watching this tread with
 great amusement.
  thanks for the entertainment.
 
  in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez
 shared. that was
  the highlight.
 
  i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for
 a long long time and
  this one was actually a real treat.
 
  for those who wish it would stop: please just
 ignore it.
 
  btw, a moderator started this thread.
 
  and another moderator already set it on fire.
 
  what more do you want?
 
  play nice kids :)
 
  ---
  Markus Sandy
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from the tears and  
tantrums episode.

Paul
On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:

 Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
 program The Future right now. And she's doing well.
 Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
 working out and holiday shopping...

 Zennie

 --- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
  they're hurting themselves
  more than each other.
 
  You know how in movies you see someone doing
  something really stupid and
  wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or
  hurt, or killed? Like
  when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in
  Desperate Housewives and you
  can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those
  scenes - they hurt my
  stomach, I get up and walk out.
 
  Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.
 
 
  On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  
   On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan
  wrote:
  
Moderators, where are you?
   
  
   this one is sitting back watching this tread with
  great amusement.
   thanks for the entertainment.
  
   in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez
  shared. that was
   the highlight.
  
   i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for
  a long long time and
   this one was actually a real treat.
  
   for those who wish it would stop: please just
  ignore it.
  
   btw, a moderator started this thread.
  
   and another moderator already set it on fire.
  
   what more do you want?
  
   play nice kids :)
  
   ---
   Markus Sandy
  
 
  --
  best regards,
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[videoblogging] DC Media Makers meeting Tues 12/19 6:30-8:30

2006-12-16 Thread jonny goldstein

Hi DC Media Makers!

We're having a project-review meeting this Tuesday. If you'd like to
present a project you are working on and get a little feedback please
stop by. If you just want to attend and soak up the exciting DC
Media makers vibe and give feeback on projects, that's good too. If ya
want to present anything, lemme know.

Where:  Cleveland Park Library, red line, 2nd floor, stacks meeting room
When:  6:30 (eh?) but the reservation is flexible -- from 6pm-8:30pm,
under Jill/DC Media Makers
Food:  bring lite fare (...eateries surround the library)

Seeya there!

Jonny

Re: [videoblogging] The BBC Features lil' ol' me!!!

2006-12-16 Thread ryanne hodson

here's an unbroken link

*http://tinyurl.com/tbc97*

congrats paul! that's so cool!

On 12/16/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi guys,

 Since the interview I have had very little response, but now here
 comes the BBC feature page on me...

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2006/12/13/
 paul_knight_vlogger_feature.shtml

 Wow!!! I am sorta famousish. This is the time for thanks and to be
 honest it's due to this group more than anything that got me to where
 I am right now.
 Cheers for that.

 Paul Knight

  




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Im finished.

Ive said everything I wanted to say to defend myself from Amanda.

EOF

I would like to explain my method and thank you for providing a forum  
in which to help.

I did not find this back-n-forth harmful, inappropriate or out of the  
ordinary.

For me this is a result of months and months of pent up emotion,  
anticipation, and especially legal strategy.

This is extremely serious.

This is regarding grossly false accusations on my personal character  
within our own community of friends and colleagues.

The feeling is much more intense for me than anyone else because its  
my integrity at stake and this is directly tied into Rocketboom's  
well being.

I feel as though this forum is important for the support of  
videobloggers with regards to all aspects of the trials and  
tribulations of videoblogging. For me, it has always been this way.

As you can see from one of 1000's of posts just like this, it also  
has a real and direct effect on my business:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/05/congdon-fired-from-rocketboom/

I appreciate that I could get my side of the story out to a group of  
people who I find to be the most likely to relate, understand and care.

We all have plenty of lessons to learn and hopefully the learning  
will never stop for any of us.

If its not clear or you feel nothing has been settled, that's okay, I  
feel as though it has and that's why I can now say I am finished with  
my public statements on this issue.

So thanks again.

Drew


On Dec 16, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Paul Knight wrote:

 Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from the tears and
 tantrums episode.

 Paul
 On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:

  Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
  program The Future right now. And she's doing well.
  Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
  working out and holiday shopping...
 
  Zennie
 
  --- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
   they're hurting themselves
   more than each other.
  
   You know how in movies you see someone doing
   something really stupid and
   wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or
   hurt, or killed? Like
   when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in
   Desperate Housewives and you
   can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those
   scenes - they hurt my
   stomach, I get up and walk out.
  
   Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.
  
  
   On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
   
On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan
   wrote:
   
 Moderators, where are you?

   
this one is sitting back watching this tread with
   great amusement.
thanks for the entertainment.
   
in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez
   shared. that was
the highlight.
   
i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for
   a long long time and
this one was actually a real treat.
   
for those who wish it would stop: please just
   ignore it.
   
btw, a moderator started this thread.
   
and another moderator already set it on fire.
   
what more do you want?
   
play nice kids :)
   
---
Markus Sandy
   
  
   --
   best regards,
   Deirdré Straughan
  
   www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
   www.tvblob.com (work)
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] The BBC Features lil' ol' me!!!

2006-12-16 Thread Gary Short

Paul Knight wrote:
 
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Since the interview I have had very little response, but now here
 comes the BBC feature page on me...
 

Congrats Paul! Just read the page on the BBC site and found out you're 
the head of the UK Video Blogging internet community. Darn and no one 
even told me :)

-- 
Cheers,
Gary
http://www.garyshort.org/
http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/

Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Gary Short

Amanda Congdon wrote:
 
 
 I agree completely Deirdre. Where are the moderators?
 
Amanda,

The mods are working behind the scenes. I've been contacted off list and 
asked not to post on the thread. I assume others have too.

-- 
Cheers,
Gary
http://www.garyshort.org/
http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/

Re: [videoblogging] The BBC Features lil' ol' me!!!

Yes Gary,

I set up the Ukvideobloggers group at yahoo back in February, thanks  
for joining.

Paul


On 16 Dec 2006, at 21:27, Gary Short wrote:

 Paul Knight wrote:
 
 
  Hi guys,
 
  Since the interview I have had very little response, but now here
  comes the BBC feature page on me...
 

 Congrats Paul! Just read the page on the BBC site and found out you're
 the head of the UK Video Blogging internet community. Darn and no  
 one
 even told me :)

 -- 
 Cheers,
 Gary
 http://www.garyshort.org/
 http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/

 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

Drew,

You da man, as far as I concerned.

Paul

On 16 Dec 2006, at 21:15, andrew michael baron wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen, Im finished.

 Ive said everything I wanted to say to defend myself from Amanda.

 EOF

 I would like to explain my method and thank you for providing a forum
 in which to help.

 I did not find this back-n-forth harmful, inappropriate or out of the
 ordinary.

 For me this is a result of months and months of pent up emotion,
 anticipation, and especially legal strategy.

 This is extremely serious.

 This is regarding grossly false accusations on my personal character
 within our own community of friends and colleagues.

 The feeling is much more intense for me than anyone else because its
 my integrity at stake and this is directly tied into Rocketboom's
 well being.

 I feel as though this forum is important for the support of
 videobloggers with regards to all aspects of the trials and
 tribulations of videoblogging. For me, it has always been this way.

 As you can see from one of 1000's of posts just like this, it also
 has a real and direct effect on my business:
 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/05/congdon-fired-from-rocketboom/

 I appreciate that I could get my side of the story out to a group of
 people who I find to be the most likely to relate, understand and  
 care.

 We all have plenty of lessons to learn and hopefully the learning
 will never stop for any of us.

 If its not clear or you feel nothing has been settled, that's okay, I
 feel as though it has and that's why I can now say I am finished with
 my public statements on this issue.

 So thanks again.

 Drew

 On Dec 16, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Paul Knight wrote:

  Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from the tears and
  tantrums episode.
 
  Paul
  On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:
 
   Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
   program The Future right now. And she's doing well.
   Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
   working out and holiday shopping...
  
   Zennie
  
   --- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
they're hurting themselves
more than each other.
   
You know how in movies you see someone doing
something really stupid and
wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or
hurt, or killed? Like
when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in
Desperate Housewives and you
can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those
scenes - they hurt my
stomach, I get up and walk out.
   
Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.
   
   
On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan
wrote:

  Moderators, where are you?
 

 this one is sitting back watching this tread with
great amusement.
 thanks for the entertainment.

 in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez
shared. that was
 the highlight.

 i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for
a long long time and
 this one was actually a real treat.

 for those who wish it would stop: please just
ignore it.

 btw, a moderator started this thread.

 and another moderator already set it on fire.

 what more do you want?

 play nice kids :)

 ---
 Markus Sandy

   
--
best regards,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

BBC!? You da man!


On Dec 16, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Paul Knight wrote:

 Drew,

 You da man, as far as I concerned.

 Paul

 On 16 Dec 2006, at 21:15, andrew michael baron wrote:

  Ladies and Gentlemen, Im finished.
 
  Ive said everything I wanted to say to defend myself from Amanda.
 
  EOF
 
  I would like to explain my method and thank you for providing a  
 forum
  in which to help.
 
  I did not find this back-n-forth harmful, inappropriate or out of  
 the
  ordinary.
 
  For me this is a result of months and months of pent up emotion,
  anticipation, and especially legal strategy.
 
  This is extremely serious.
 
  This is regarding grossly false accusations on my personal character
  within our own community of friends and colleagues.
 
  The feeling is much more intense for me than anyone else because its
  my integrity at stake and this is directly tied into Rocketboom's
  well being.
 
  I feel as though this forum is important for the support of
  videobloggers with regards to all aspects of the trials and
  tribulations of videoblogging. For me, it has always been this way.
 
  As you can see from one of 1000's of posts just like this, it also
  has a real and direct effect on my business:
  http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/05/congdon-fired-from-rocketboom/
 
  I appreciate that I could get my side of the story out to a group of
  people who I find to be the most likely to relate, understand and
  care.
 
  We all have plenty of lessons to learn and hopefully the learning
  will never stop for any of us.
 
  If its not clear or you feel nothing has been settled, that's  
 okay, I
  feel as though it has and that's why I can now say I am finished  
 with
  my public statements on this issue.
 
  So thanks again.
 
  Drew
 
  On Dec 16, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Paul Knight wrote:
 
   Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from the tears and
   tantrums episode.
  
   Paul
   On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:
  
Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
program The Future right now. And she's doing well.
Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
working out and holiday shopping...
   
Zennie
   
--- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
 I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
 they're hurting themselves
 more than each other.

 You know how in movies you see someone doing
 something really stupid and
 wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or
 hurt, or killed? Like
 when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in
 Desperate Housewives and you
 can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those
 scenes - they hurt my
 stomach, I get up and walk out.

 Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.


 On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan
 wrote:
 
   Moderators, where are you?
  
 
  this one is sitting back watching this tread with
 great amusement.
  thanks for the entertainment.
 
  in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez
 shared. that was
  the highlight.
 
  i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for
 a long long time and
  this one was actually a real treat.
 
  for those who wish it would stop: please just
 ignore it.
 
  btw, a moderator started this thread.
 
  and another moderator already set it on fire.
 
  what more do you want?
 
  play nice kids :)
 
  ---
  Markus Sandy
 

 --
 best regards,
 Deirdré Straughan

 www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
 www.tvblob.com (work)


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread Zenophon Abraham

Find your path, and share the joy!  The People Of The
United Methodist Church.

--- Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from
 the tears and  
 tantrums episode.
 
 Paul
 On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote:
 
  Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's
  program The Future right now. And she's doing
 well.
  Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than
  working out and holiday shopping...
 
  Zennie
 
  --- Deirdre Straughan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   I guess it has entertainment value for some, but
   they're hurting themselves
   more than each other.
  
   You know how in movies you see someone doing
   something really stupid and
   wrong and you know they're going to get caught,
 or
   hurt, or killed? Like
   when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in
   Desperate Housewives and you
   can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take
 those
   scenes - they hurt my
   stomach, I get up and walk out.
  
   Which is how this whole thing makes me feel.
  
  
   On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
   
On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre
 Straughan
   wrote:
   
 Moderators, where are you?

   
this one is sitting back watching this tread
 with
   great amusement.
thanks for the entertainment.
   
in particular, i really liked the hugs video
 loiez
   shared. that was
the highlight.
   
i really haven't had time to watch soap operas
 for
   a long long time and
this one was actually a real treat.
   
for those who wish it would stop: please just
   ignore it.
   
btw, a moderator started this thread.
   
and another moderator already set it on fire.
   
what more do you want?
   
play nice kids :)
   
---
Markus Sandy
   
  
   --
   best regards,
   Deirdré Straughan
  
   www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
   www.tvblob.com (work)
  
  
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[videoblogging] open invitation

Hey guys I am looking for singers in my latest colab, we are singing  
o come all ye faithfull as a christmas vlog, I will be singing in  
both english and latin, Loiez's son and Loiez will be singing in  
French, Rachel my wife will be singing in german, more languages  
would be fun.  contact me via e-mail if interested in singing on  
video, deadline next week, I wanna post this before xmas if possible.

paul knight ([EMAIL PROTECTED]

let get that christmas spirit going...


Paul

Re: [videoblogging] open invitation

2006-12-16 Thread Loiez D.

The key will be c
All instruments are welcome

Loiez

Le 16 déc. 06 à 23:19, Paul Knight a écrit :

 Hey guys I am looking for singers in my latest colab, we are singing
 o come all ye faithfull as a christmas vlog, I will be singing in
 both english and latin, Loiez's son and Loiez will be singing in
 French, Rachel my wife will be singing in german, more languages
 would be fun. contact me via e-mail if interested in singing on
 video, deadline next week, I wanna post this before xmas if possible.

 paul knight ([EMAIL PROTECTED]

 let get that christmas spirit going...

 Paul


 



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[videoblogging] Re: The BBC Features lil' ol' me!!!

2006-12-16 Thread greg

Congratulations Paul!

That is really great!

I saw in your vlog that you went to the BBC.  I linked the episode.

Seriously, that is very impressive.  Way to go!

Greg
gregsvideoblog.blogspot.com http://gregsvideoblog.blogspot.com
cruzonby.com http://cruzonby.com
eighteenhundred.blogspot.com http://eighteenhundred.blogspot.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Since the interview I have had very little response, but now here
 comes the BBC feature page on me...

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2006/12/13/
 paul_knight_vlogger_feature.shtml

 Wow!!!  I am sorta famousish.  This is the time for thanks and to be
 honest it's due to this group more than anything that got me to where
 I am right now.
 Cheers for that.

 Paul Knight




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[videoblogging] Looking for topics on teaching about social media

2006-12-16 Thread Sanford Dickert

Hey all -

In my pursuit of edumakating my senior engineering students at Cooper  
Union (http://www.cooper.edu) , I am developing a Web 2.0 class -  
focusing on the topics that are beginning to pervade the  
consciousness of the marketplace today.

As an enthusiastic endorser of podcasting and videoblogging, I am  
working in these concepts by discussing the concepts of syndication  
(using XML) and user-generated content/mashups to better explain  
social media.  Instead of focusing on just technical topics (like  
video codecs, which we should discuss), I want the students to get an  
understanding of the palette of technologies and forms of expression  
that they can use to solve the problems that they will face.

If you were one of those engineering students (CS and Engineers all)  
- to give them a sense of what are the topics at hand, what would you  
expect to learn/hear?  Not just the technical details, but what about  
design principles and user concerns?

It is the intent of the course to give the students an experience of  
building a product/service that is user-centric rather than  
engineering-centric (love of technology instead of solving the  
problem).  Videoblogging might not sound like a problem that needs to  
be solved, but maybe there is a way to expand their experiences...

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

Sanford

[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread missbhavens1969

**bull$hit!!!***

I cry **bull$hit!!**

Moderators? For what? To tell y'all to can it? How about taking it
offlist someplace? There's a whole internet world out there where you
can fling poop at each other 24/7! Personally, I'm finding this 
thread interesting as hell (not entertaining, exactly, because none of
it is funny; but definitely interesting) but I'm astonished at how
wildly unprofessional you are both being. Is this how you two
communicated when you used to work together? Jesus--no wonder things
didn't work out.

But if you want to stop having to defend yourself, stop reading!
(alternately, Andrew can stop writing stuff for you to read and get
defensive about, but clearly he's not going to do that anytime soon,
and that's his right). 

Either way, moderator-shmoderator. This is a forum about
videoblogging, which both of you do, so have at it.

Bekah







--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I agree completely Deirdre. Where are the moderators?
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan
 deirdre.straughan@ wrote:
...
 Moderators, where are you?

[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread missbhavens1969

AHA!!! There it is! That's it! I've been waiting for one of you two
crazy kids to post something that would shove me over the edge and
make me choose a side! 

Holy Vicious, Batman.

End scene.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I think considering Andrew's onslaught of attacks have been
unprovoked and unsubstantiated, it might not be a bad idea to ban
him. All I have ever done is defend myself.

Re: [videoblogging] Looking for topics on teaching about social media

2006-12-16 Thread Loiez D.

Hi,
We have created a group in France
PlanetAgency
( 15 of the best explorers of the web2.0 in all domains)

We have a webtv here
http://planetagency.xi-vlog.com/


It's in french but
If you want to participe write me off list please

Best regards
Loiez


Le 17 déc. 06 à 01:21, Sanford Dickert a écrit :

 Hey all -

 In my pursuit of edumakating my senior engineering students at Cooper
 Union (http://www.cooper.edu) , I am developing a Web 2.0 class -
 focusing on the topics that are beginning to pervade the
 consciousness of the marketplace today.

 As an enthusiastic endorser of podcasting and videoblogging, I am
 working in these concepts by discussing the concepts of syndication
 (using XML) and user-generated content/mashups to better explain
 social media. Instead of focusing on just technical topics (like
 video codecs, which we should discuss), I want the students to get an
 understanding of the palette of technologies and forms of expression
 that they can use to solve the problems that they will face.

 If you were one of those engineering students (CS and Engineers all)
 - to give them a sense of what are the topics at hand, what would you
 expect to learn/hear? Not just the technical details, but what about
 design principles and user concerns?

 It is the intent of the course to give the students an experience of
 building a product/service that is user-centric rather than
 engineering-centric (love of technology instead of solving the
 problem). Videoblogging might not sound like a problem that needs to
 be solved, but maybe there is a way to expand their experiences...

 Thank you in advance for your feedback.

 Sanford

 



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[videoblogging] Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?

I haven't been. I keep telling folks that, even if we've started to
presume (most) everyone has broadband, it's still going to be a while
before HD content on the Net is encoded and presented that way. 

Am I wrong? And what are you telling people, now that HD cameras are
out there in numbers, and within range? 

--Chris...

[videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!

2006-12-16 Thread mrbellavia

The spirit of the season is clearly alive and well in the
vlogosphere

At least it is with Arnold Schwarzenegger.  He wishes everyone a Happy
Hanukkah...
http://www.arnoldspeaks.com/2006/12/id-like-to-have-word-with-hanukkah.h\
tml
http://www.arnoldspeaks.com/2006/12/id-like-to-have-word-with-hanukkah.\
html



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Amanda, I have always been outspoken about sharing my experiences
 with Rocketboom and this is no longer an exception.

 You can hide talking about it publicly, we see how that has led to
 your advantage. As long as no one speaks up, you continue to lie and
 mislead people about what you have done for yourself. Meanwhile no
 one can learn from the problems you have created.

 As you know our lawyers ARE working on it. I hope your lawyer is
 listening when I say yet again, look here below how you have out
 right lied in saying I let you go.

 People should know that in order to do business in this field there
 is a need to protect oneself from this kind of atrocious behavior.

 Luckily I have, its just that I have previously been quiet about it
 for legal reasons myself.

 So now Im ready to share with everyone how I expect this will turn
 out and then we can talk about it, take wagers, and see what the
 judge has to say.

 In the end, we should all be in a better position to engage in
 creative partnerships.




 On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Amanda Congdon wrote:

  Andrew, get a grip. Please.
 
  This
 
  http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?
  q=rocketboom.comurl=rocketboom.com
 
  is not my fault.
 
  You made the decision to let me go. So I went.
 
  As for your outlandish claims about HBO and ABC, please contact my
  lawyers. Let's do this the right way. And having a desk and a second
  camera are not ideas you own. Those are conventions.
 
  Best to focus on your own show, I think. Or you can continue to
  attempt to drag me down and write emotional emails to ABC but I'm
  done talking about this publicly. Time to move on.
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
  andrew@ wrote:
  
   Jeeze, I have never been so offended.
  
   Its like Alice and Wonderland around here, somebody pinch me:
   http://www.dembot.com/011895.html
  
   On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, CarLBanks wrote:
  
This gives me hope that I could be picked up one day.
  
  
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RE: [videoblogging] Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?

2006-12-16 Thread Robert Scoble

I'm only using HD camcorders. Why?

 

For one, the image I get is much higher quality overall. My $4,000 Sony can
shoot in low light, has better image stableization than the $700 Panasonic
cameras I used at Microsoft, and I like the widescreen format better. The
images are also better sharpness before compression and I find they compress
better too.

 

But, that's not really the reason I'm using them. I expect that sometime in
the next 18 months that old-school TV distribution networks are gonna need
HD content and need it bad. I'll have it.

 

Also, look at new school distribution networks that are popping up like
Tivo, Xbox, Playstation. All are looking for HD content.

 

Plus, if you ever want to show your videos off in HD, say, in a conference
setting, or at a future Vloggies, or something like that, having HD
originals will make you shine in those places and if you are shooting some
video for home use, some for videoblogging, and some for friends and/or
company, you'll want HD, especially if you have an HD screen.

 

My video on my Sony 60-inch is stunning. Makes me look like the Discovery
Channel.

 

Robert

 

 

 

  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [chrisbrogan.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:34 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?

 

I haven't been. I keep telling folks that, even if we've started to
presume (most) everyone has broadband, it's still going to be a while
before HD content on the Net is encoded and presented that way. 

Am I wrong? And what are you telling people, now that HD cameras are
out there in numbers, and within range? 

--Chris... 

 



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[videoblogging] Re: Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?

Id say it depends on their budget, how long they are expecting to go
before buying another camera, and what sort of content they make.

Im sure that SD and the current below-SD 320x240 type resolutions that
vlogging often uses will be around for a long time. For all the
poo-pooing of video on the net for being 'in a little window' in years
gone by before the viral video, vlogging etc revolution, it seems
clear that for short clips people are quite happy to consume the video
in this way.

Futureproofing side of the equation may also involve the idea that
even if it takes 10 years or more before HD internet publishing for
the masses becomes the norm, people may want to archive their footage
of events in time and space in a nice high res format for non-internet
use or so they can republish this stuff in higher quality when the
time comes.

Even if mot publishing in HD or even half-HD resolutions, I still
think the right HD camera can give nice results with the final output,
  I guess rocketboom would be an example of that.

Other technical reasons for recommending HD would include stuff to do
with interlacing, the right cameras can use a progressive mode that is
sought-after by some people who want to emulate the lookfeel of
traditional film.

ETchnical reasons not to go for HD include the limitation in options
when it comes to editing software, the increased processor etc costs
of editing/re-rendering HD, and the fact that there is more than one
HD format around so its not as straightforward as well-established
standard definition DV. The ability to use most HD cameras in SD mode
when appropriate can cancel out these issues though.

As you can tell I dont think theres a simple answer anymore, maybe it
does come down more to what they are creating. I laugh at unintended
boradcast TV side-effects of going HD such as viewers complaining
about presenters with hairy hands. My dad finds himself watching
nature documentaries on TV since he got HD, even though thats not his
cup of tea, it looks so good.
 
Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I haven't been. I keep telling folks that, even if we've started to
 presume (most) everyone has broadband, it's still going to be a while
 before HD content on the Net is encoded and presented that way. 
 
 Am I wrong? And what are you telling people, now that HD cameras are
 out there in numbers, and within range? 
 
 --Chris...

[videoblogging] Time Magazine's Person Of The Year

2006-12-16 Thread tony.katz

Due to the success of MySpace, YouTube, et. al..the Person of the year is 
YOU.  Meaning, 
the blogger and the vlogger and those who create content.

I'm pretty sure that what we do matters..no matter what we do.

http://tinyurl.com/yf54ud

Tony Katz
http://www.talkshowonthego.com
http://www.vnetworks.tv

Re: [videoblogging] Looking for topics on teaching about social media

2006-12-16 Thread Sean Bohan

Sanford:

Check out what Chris Heuer is doing with the Social Media club (next meeting
is in late Jan).
http://socialmediaclub.com/

Also you can run your class by the O'Reilly definitions of web2.0 (yeah
yeah, he makes money off the definition with conferences and stuff but a lot
the ideas around social media - media being more accessible, tools/software
getting into the hands of and used by the audience, mashups, open APIs,
conversations, users connecting with other users and telling stories without
haveing to go thru filters, open standards, etc,  are there)

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html


-Sean

Sean W. Bohan
seanbohan.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On 12/16/06, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,
 We have created a group in France
 PlanetAgency
 ( 15 of the best explorers of the web2.0 in all domains)

 We have a webtv here
 http://planetagency.xi-vlog.com/

 It's in french but
 If you want to participe write me off list please

 Best regards
 Loiez

 Le 17 déc. 06 à 01:21, Sanford Dickert a écrit :

  Hey all -
 
  In my pursuit of edumakating my senior engineering students at Cooper
  Union (http://www.cooper.edu) , I am developing a Web 2.0 class -
  focusing on the topics that are beginning to pervade the
  consciousness of the marketplace today.
 
  As an enthusiastic endorser of podcasting and videoblogging, I am
  working in these concepts by discussing the concepts of syndication
  (using XML) and user-generated content/mashups to better explain
  social media. Instead of focusing on just technical topics (like
  video codecs, which we should discuss), I want the students to get an
  understanding of the palette of technologies and forms of expression
  that they can use to solve the problems that they will face.
 
  If you were one of those engineering students (CS and Engineers all)
  - to give them a sense of what are the topics at hand, what would you
  expect to learn/hear? Not just the technical details, but what about
  design principles and user concerns?
 
  It is the intent of the course to give the students an experience of
  building a product/service that is user-centric rather than
  engineering-centric (love of technology instead of solving the
  problem). Videoblogging might not sound like a problem that needs to
  be solved, but maybe there is a way to expand their experiences...
 
  Thank you in advance for your feedback.
 
  Sanford
 
 

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Sean W. Bohan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.seanbohan.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Time Magazine's Person Of The Year

2006-12-16 Thread Steve Garfield

very cool


crash test kitchen is featured...

congratulations...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1570724,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/vjd6v

To watch Warren Murray, 34, and Leanne White, 32, make sponge cake is 
to hear the silent screams of Julia Child's dear, departed spirit. 
About 45 seconds in, they add two tablespoons of butter instead of two 
teaspoons, and it just goes downhill from there.


On Dec 16, 2006, at 9:26 PM, tony.katz wrote:

 Due to the success of MySpace, YouTube, et. al..the Person of the 
 year is YOU.  Meaning,
 the blogger and the vlogger and those who create content.

 I'm pretty sure that what we do matters..no matter what we do.

 http://tinyurl.com/yf54ud

 Tony Katz
 http://www.talkshowonthego.com
 http://www.vnetworks.tv




 Yahoo! Groups Links






--Steve
-- 
http://SteveGarfield.com - Fighting the good fight
http://Rocketboom.com - Correspondent
http://hipcast.com (audioblog.com)  - Community Manager

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?

2006-12-16 Thread Sean Bohan

We switched completely to HD last year (we were doing short docs,
application videos, stuff for fashion companies and AOL - lots of
requirements and the clients cared less about format and more about
results). We were also doing a lot of greenscreen work, and doing it on HD
worked out really well - more information to work, greater depth of field,
etc. We had to upgrade cameras, storage and software, but it was worth it.

Now in my new company, I make HD a requirement for our new projects (inc the
new videoblogs we are workin on). More flexibility in editing, lots of our
work might get repurposed for CDRom or broadcast later on, there are a
hundred reasons.

I would recommend HD to someone who is already doing video - yes. Starting
out? No - for all the reasons Steve mentions below..

On 12/16/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Id say it depends on their budget, how long they are expecting to go
 before buying another camera, and what sort of content they make.

 Im sure that SD and the current below-SD 320x240 type resolutions that
 vlogging often uses will be around for a long time. For all the
 poo-pooing of video on the net for being 'in a little window' in years
 gone by before the viral video, vlogging etc revolution, it seems
 clear that for short clips people are quite happy to consume the video
 in this way.

 Futureproofing side of the equation may also involve the idea that
 even if it takes 10 years or more before HD internet publishing for
 the masses becomes the norm, people may want to archive their footage
 of events in time and space in a nice high res format for non-internet
 use or so they can republish this stuff in higher quality when the
 time comes.

 Even if mot publishing in HD or even half-HD resolutions, I still
 think the right HD camera can give nice results with the final output,
 I guess rocketboom would be an example of that.

 Other technical reasons for recommending HD would include stuff to do
 with interlacing, the right cameras can use a progressive mode that is
 sought-after by some people who want to emulate the lookfeel of
 traditional film.

 ETchnical reasons not to go for HD include the limitation in options
 when it comes to editing software, the increased processor etc costs
 of editing/re-rendering HD, and the fact that there is more than one
 HD format around so its not as straightforward as well-established
 standard definition DV. The ability to use most HD cameras in SD mode
 when appropriate can cancel out these issues though.

 As you can tell I dont think theres a simple answer anymore, maybe it
 does come down more to what they are creating. I laugh at unintended
 boradcast TV side-effects of going HD such as viewers complaining
 about presenters with hairy hands. My dad finds himself watching
 nature documentaries on TV since he got HD, even though thats not his
 cup of tea, it looks so good.

 Steve Elbows

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, [
 chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I haven't been. I keep telling folks that, even if we've started to
  presume (most) everyone has broadband, it's still going to be a while
  before HD content on the Net is encoded and presented that way.
 
  Am I wrong? And what are you telling people, now that HD cameras are
  out there in numbers, and within range?
 
  --Chris...
 

  




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Sean W. Bohan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.seanbohan.com


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RE: [videoblogging] Time Magazine's Person Of The Year

2006-12-16 Thread Tom Gosse

Of course the flip side to this is, It's The Age of Narcissism
http://static.flickr.com/135/324471483_bb19d1f840.jpg .  It's all about
me, me, me.
 
Tom Gosse, aka Irish Hermit
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blog/vlog: http://irishhermit.blogspot.com
  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of tony.katz
Sent: Saturday, 16 December, 2006 9:26 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Time Magazine's Person Of The Year
 
Due to the success of MySpace, YouTube, et. al..the Person of the year
is YOU. Meaning, 
the blogger and the vlogger and those who create content.

I'm pretty sure that what we do matters..no matter what we do.

http://tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/yf54ud com/yf54ud

Tony Katz
http://www.talkshow http://www.talkshowonthego.com onthego.com
http://www.vnetwork http://www.vnetworks.tv s.tv
 


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[videoblogging] Re: Time Magazine's Person Of The Year

2006-12-16 Thread francisco_daum

What I'm saying was probably said already but here it goes: personally
created content reminds big mainstream media who the boss is- the
individual. By creating our own we tell the corporations we aren't
lulled by mass media. 

Francisco

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 very cool
 
 
 crash test kitchen is featured...
 
 congratulations...
 
 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1570724,00.html
 
 http://tinyurl.com/vjd6v
 
 To watch Warren Murray, 34, and Leanne White, 32, make sponge cake is 
 to hear the silent screams of Julia Child's dear, departed spirit. 
 About 45 seconds in, they add two tablespoons of butter instead of two 
 teaspoons, and it just goes downhill from there.
 
 
 On Dec 16, 2006, at 9:26 PM, tony.katz wrote:
 
  Due to the success of MySpace, YouTube, et. al..the Person of the 
  year is YOU.  Meaning,
  the blogger and the vlogger and those who create content.
 
  I'm pretty sure that what we do matters..no matter what we do.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/yf54ud
 
  Tony Katz
  http://www.talkshowonthego.com
  http://www.vnetworks.tv
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --Steve
 -- 
 http://SteveGarfield.com - Fighting the good fight
 http://Rocketboom.com - Correspondent
 http://hipcast.com (audioblog.com)  - Community Manager

[videoblogging] Re: Time Magazine's Person Of The Year

2006-12-16 Thread Teri

I always wanted the cover of Time.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, tony.katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Due to the success of MySpace, YouTube, et. al..the Person of the 
year is YOU.  Meaning, 
 the blogger and the vlogger and those who create content.
 
 I'm pretty sure that what we do matters..no matter what we do.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yf54ud
 
 Tony Katz
 http://www.talkshowonthego.com
 http://www.vnetworks.tv

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The BBC Features lil' ol' me!!!

2006-12-16 Thread CarLBanks

Wow, congratulations Paul! Now I'll have to pay $6.95 a video to download
your site from the PJKProductions PRO-site. ;) Because you'll be so big that
no website will be able to hold the bandwidth.

P.S. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'm just saying I think Paul Knight is
worth $6.95 because he's just plain awesome. Now, let me get that $6.95 to
pay him.

On 12/16/06, greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Congratulations Paul!

 That is really great!

 I saw in your vlog that you went to the BBC. I linked the episode.

 Seriously, that is very impressive. Way to go!

 Greg
 gregsvideoblog.blogspot.com http://gregsvideoblog.blogspot.com
 cruzonby.com http://cruzonby.com
 eighteenhundred.blogspot.com http://eighteenhundred.blogspot.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  Since the interview I have had very little response, but now here
  comes the BBC feature page on me...
 
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2006/12/13/
  paul_knight_vlogger_feature.shtml
 
  Wow!!! I am sorta famousish. This is the time for thanks and to be
  honest it's due to this group more than anything that got me to where
  I am right now.
  Cheers for that.
 
  Paul Knight
 

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[videoblogging] Re: Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?

2006-12-16 Thread Bill Streeter

I tend to agree with much of what Robert says here. Even if you don't post 
video online 
now in HD it is great to have the HD masters you can always go back to. I'm a 
little 
dubious about internet distro of HD content in the short term. Even with 
broadband 
penetration as broad as it is now, it's still not fast enough to handle HD (for 
average 
consumer demand.) All the phone companies are working on rolling out fiber to 
at least 
within a mile of everyones front door, but at least 70% of that new capacity 
will be used up 
to provide their own proprietary television services that will compete with 
cable tv, leaving 
the other 30% (or less) of the capacity for other data service. And that can be 
stifled by 
content type if it appears that it threatens their other business (subscription 
television). 
Thus the big brew ha-ha over net neutrality last year. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm only using HD camcorders. Why?
 
  
 
 For one, the image I get is much higher quality overall. My $4,000 Sony can
 shoot in low light, has better image stableization than the $700 Panasonic
 cameras I used at Microsoft, and I like the widescreen format better. The
 images are also better sharpness before compression and I find they compress
 better too.
 
  
 
 But, that's not really the reason I'm using them. I expect that sometime in
 the next 18 months that old-school TV distribution networks are gonna need
 HD content and need it bad. I'll have it.
 
  
 
 Also, look at new school distribution networks that are popping up like
 Tivo, Xbox, Playstation. All are looking for HD content.
 
  
 
 Plus, if you ever want to show your videos off in HD, say, in a conference
 setting, or at a future Vloggies, or something like that, having HD
 originals will make you shine in those places and if you are shooting some
 video for home use, some for videoblogging, and some for friends and/or
 company, you'll want HD, especially if you have an HD screen.
 
  
 
 My video on my Sony 60-inch is stunning. Makes me look like the Discovery
 Channel.
 
  
 
 Robert
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of [chrisbrogan.com]
 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:34 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Are You Recommending HD Cameras Yet?
 
  
 
 I haven't been. I keep telling folks that, even if we've started to
 presume (most) everyone has broadband, it's still going to be a while
 before HD content on the Net is encoded and presented that way. 
 
 Am I wrong? And what are you telling people, now that HD cameras are
 out there in numbers, and within range? 
 
 --Chris... 
 
  
 
 
 
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