For the record sull, those feeds came in from blip, vimeo, vsocial, etc. 
via our ping service.  The other end (blip, vsocial) had to send us the 
data...more like being fed than sucking ;)  It is an old service that 
isn't in action anymore.

And yes, some of them are a pain now and that's an appropriate nickname

As far as the rss thing, yeah if you put it out there then anyone can 
grab it, but one would hope that you have your cc licensing in it and we 
all hope that the site that is consuming it is adhering to your license.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie

http://mefeedia.com | Find Videoblogs
http://devlonduthie.com | My Site



sull wrote:
> well i will chime in *again*.
>
> i have nothing truly against network2.
> they communicate here and seem like smart, decent people in this space.
> of course, that is also in best business interests but hey.... you cant be
> too skeptical otherwise you would be... paranoid.
>
> i've claimed this before, but its important to repeat it especially when a
> thread like this invites it.
>
> vlogdir.com is OPT-IN.  from day 1 in April 2005, the directory has been a
> community-driven directory.
> I didnt populate it.  YOU did.  and I am proud of that because i think it is
> an interesting gauge of this vlog community.
> I also think that it works mostly as a passive filter.  Meaning, people
> actually take a few moments to submit their videoblog and vodcast (rss
> feed).  That means that they think they have something good to share with
> others.  so they choose to take some measures to do that sharing.
> vlogdir is always a top 10-20 result in google... so it helps somewhat.
>
> I also believe that vlogmap.org has worked this way for almost as long.
>
> though i totally love mefeedia.... they are not only opt-in and they
> actually went through a period when they sucked in a boat-load of feeds from
> other services like blip, vimeo, vsocial, youtube etc.  i call most of those
> feeds.... orphans.
> but mefeedia is like the best overall vlog/feed aggregator i think and they
> do a tremendous amount of "right" stuff.... so, this is in no way to traject
> anything negative on mefeedia.  they rock and when i can, i help them out
> with feedback.
>
> fireant.tv is opt-in too but last i checked, they also add in their own
> selections as well.  the weird part is the fact that any feed you enter in
> the app, gets added to a database as part of a review queue.... and if it
> looks tasty, it will end up on the web directory.  i think you can opt-out
> of that happening on mac version.  but many feeds on fireant.tv are added by
> fireant themselves as well as the community (whether intended or not).
>
> the only time i truly think its nasty to add feeds without opt-in is when
> some site appears out of nowhere and sucks in feeds and wraps ads around
> everything.
> they are obviously just trying to rank high in search results and make a few
> bucks.  no value back to the community and no value to the publishers.  its
> cheap and its dirty.  and it creates a bad reputation too.
>
> RSS... yes if you put out a feed, as a general rule you are syndicating your
> content to anyone on the web.  Preferably, you want that content grabbed by
> an audience, not by random aggregator sites.  But you also realize that some
> of the reputable aggregator sites actually do help you gain exposure and get
> traffic and distribute your media.  More people can subscribe to you.  It
> can be a very good thing if you actually want to spread your media.
> But you should respect the aggregator and if you dont, you should be able to
> tell them to remove your content.  and they should respond asap.
>
> network2 seems like they are trying to add value to the community.  i think
> they might succeed.  we'll see.
>
> vlogdir.com... well.... the project was one of the originals to come out of
> this community.... and its in auto-pilot.  it still serves and represents
> the vlogosphere.... but i have not personally focused on evolving the
> project.  after all, it is what it is.  what else can it be?  i promote
> vlogs that i like a lot... on the site and elsewhere.  and every once in a
> while i need to delete some vietnam tourism site etc but for the most part,
> the directory has been problem free.  thats a success story.  to me at
> least.
>
> maybe in 2007, i will carve a little time out to improve the site.
>
> in mean time, make sure any agg-newcomers work like mefeedia, vlogdir,
> fireant, vlogmap, blip.....  the originals.... who give full attribution and
> add value to the community.  oh, i suppose network2 as well ;)
>
> sull
>
>
> On 12/14/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   i think i see a difference
>>
>> aren't fireant and mefeedia "opt-in" ?
>>
>> also, i don't think they *feature* sites from people who wish otherwise
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Heath wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I don't see what you are doing as any different than Fireant, or
>>> MeFeedia, etc. You are providing a way to view video on the web,
>>> vlogs, etc.....at least you are providing link backs and other
>>> things, there are plenty of sites around that just "take" your feed
>>> and you would never know it. Ran across a few of those, now THAT
>>> bothers me, just taking, but I don't see what you are doing
>>> as "wrong"..... IMO you have been honest and above board, so no
>>> worries on my end..
>>>
>>> Heath
>>> http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>>       
>> "[chrisbrogan.com]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>     
>>> wrote:
>>>       
>> ---
>> Markus Sandy
>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow
>>
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