[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs

2007-11-22 Thread David
Joanna Shields of Bebo is quoted in that article as saying As more 
and more interesting content from major media brands becomes 
available ...  

REALLY? I've got 1,000 channels and find it extremely difficult to 
find anything interesting to watch.  There're gobs and gobs of 
stultifying treacle and palaver, but very little that qualifies 
as 'interesting.' And there sure doesn't seem, ever, to be 'more and 
more' of it.  Rather, it seems there's ever less and less spread 
thinner and thinner and reheated, rehashed and re-served.

In the same article we're told Tom Green is a professional.  
REALLY?  His comedy bores me.  Ask a Ninja is funnier as 
is Unleashed and many other amateur internet programs.  So, maybe 
Tom Green is the amateur and the creators of those shows are 
the professionals.  

Yeah, that's it.  You and me, we are the professionals.  Whether 
you consider yourself a content creator or producer 
or videographer or vlogger or any other name that describes what 
you do making videos for online consumption, you are a professional 
if you want to be.  And here's how:

Professional as we use it today is a co-opted, bastardized term, 
roughly meaning expert or someone who gets paid for something.  
Thus, you are a professional clown if you get paid for being a 
clown, much like the anchors on your nightly network news program.  
And, if everyone you know calls you an ass, then you're 
a professional ass because you're really expert at it.

Originally, to be a professional, one needed to be a member of 
the learned arts, namely divinity, law, and medicine.  And for a 
long time after that, a professional was anyone who passed a rigorous 
qualifying exam of mental skill.  Thus, if you were a doctor, lawyer, 
CPA, engineer, or actuary, you were a professional, but you couldn't 
be a professional garbage man.  It was a status designation.

But that's all changed now.  You're a professional at what you get 
paid for.  Thus, Tiger Woods is a professional golfer because he 
gets paid to golf and a NYC sanitation worker is a professional 
sanitation engineer.  And if you have ever made $.01 from blip.tv or 
any other revenue sharing video site or you're just really good at it 
(and aren't we all?) then you're a professional  whatever 
you want to call it.

However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content 
creator.  That term is impersonal and abstract.  We're artists, 
storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, 
photographers, what have you.  Content creator suggests some awful 
bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and 
extruding content.




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i agree with the opposing perspectives in this thread
 what also came to mind is that as soon as life's catastrophic events
 occur, suddenly it will be realized again the power of the so-called
 user-gen content.
 user-gen does not HAVE to mean teens expressing and working their
 personalities to each other on youtube.
 user-gen does not have to mean silly prank videos.
 user-gen does not have to mean strip-tease or dancing or ANYTHING in
 front of a damn immobile webcam.
 
 user-gen CAN be citizen journalism and art.
 
 Let's not forget... and if needed, remind the dimwits and
 story-fabricators in the world.  show them!
 
 Sull
 
 On Nov 20, 2007 6:37 PM, Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
 
  As more professionally produced content finds a home online,
  user-generated video becomes less alluring to viewers—and 
advertisers
 
 
 
  
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2007/tc20071119_7018
31.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_top+stories
 
 
 
  http://tinyurl.com/2mac2l
 
 
 
  Has anyone ever heard of VideoEgg and ManiaTV?  Did BusinessWeek 
try to interview executives from known online video outlets?
  . . .
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://kenya.allmond.us
  http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog
  VM/F 202-478-0490
 
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[videoblogging] Which Xacti?

2007-11-22 Thread Clintus
Hey everyone. I'm ready to purchase one of these bad boys and when i
went to the website I found that there are 12 versions of the camera.
So I'm looking for your input on what you're using and what you like.
My first choice would be great low light capture. Any info you can
give would be great, thanks.



[videoblogging] Re: Which Xacti?

2007-11-22 Thread Clintus
Sorry, in addition HD is preferred. Looking right now between the HD2
and HD700. Trying to figure out the differences at the moment. Thanks
again.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clintus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey everyone. I'm ready to purchase one of these bad boys and when i
 went to the website I found that there are 12 versions of the camera.
 So I'm looking for your input on what you're using and what you like.
 My first choice would be great low light capture. Any info you can
 give would be great, thanks.





[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs

2007-11-22 Thread Cheryl
Really? The first time I heard anyone use the term content provider,
it was artist Laurie Andersen. Perhaps she was being sarcastic to
refer to  herself as such.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content 
 creator.  That term is impersonal and abstract.  We're artists, 
 storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, 
 photographers, what have you.  Content creator suggests some awful 
 bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and 
 extruding content.




Re: [videoblogging] Re: Counting views in Facebook?

2007-11-22 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I agree with you; the terms are typically horrible.  But the videos
I'm putting up there are really just doodles on a notepad and
communication to a couple people.  Nothing that I'm worried about
being co-opted into some promotional piece.

Unless they are into me and my girlfriend babbling; which may be the
rage next season!


On Nov 21, 2007 4:54 PM, mattfeldman78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'd be careful uploading video directly to Facebook-their terms of use
  are horrible. You might want to consider using another app, like
  YouTube so u don't do a direct upload of the video and deal with their
  terms. I think Steve Garfield addressed this on this list and he
  blogged about it here:
  http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/10/facebook-terms-of-use.html



-- 
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://hatfactory.net
AIM:schlomochat


[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs

2007-11-22 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd

 Joanna Shields of Bebo is quoted in that article as saying As more 
 and more interesting content from major media brands becomes 
 available ...  

... from the few Mega Media Conglomerates 

 REALLY? I've got 1,000 channels and find it extremely difficult to 
 find anything interesting to watch.  There're gobs and gobs of 
 stultifying treacle and palaver, but very little that qualifies 
 as 'interesting.' And there sure doesn't seem, ever, to be 'more and 
 more' of it.  Rather, it seems there's ever less and less spread 
 thinner and thinner and reheated, rehashed and re-served.

I almost stopped reading here, then I felt a bit foolish, your
thoughts are about a sticky subject, any attempt by me to persuade you
to continue or elaborate or expand or provide examples or expound or
evangelize or preach or persuade would be ass kissing
 
 In the same article we're told Tom Green is a professional.  
 REALLY?  His comedy bores me.  Ask a Ninja is funnier as 
 is Unleashed and many other amateur internet programs.  So, maybe 
 Tom Green is the amateur and the creators of those shows are 
 the professionals.  

Tom Green, Tome Greens, Tom Greene,
hello hello hello ... Tom Grenius!! The man is a
comedic/technological/freaking GENIUS. I hope the networks have a
whole lineup of shows just like Tom Green
 
 Yeah, that's it.  You and me, we are the professionals.  Whether 
 you consider yourself a content creator or producer 
 or videographer or vlogger or any other name that describes what 
 you do making videos for online consumption, you are a professional 
 if you want to be.  And here's how:

I do, I really do ... closing eyes. 
 
 Professional as we use it today is a co-opted, bastardized term, 
 roughly meaning expert or someone who gets paid for something.  
 Thus, you are a professional clown if you get paid for being a 
 clown, much like the anchors on your nightly network news program.  
 And, if everyone you know calls you an ass, then you're 
 a professional ass because you're really expert at it.

Do compliments count as credibility toward the designation Professional?

 Originally, to be a professional, one needed to be a member of 
 the learned arts, namely divinity, law, and medicine.  And for a 
 long time after that, a professional was anyone who passed a rigorous 
 qualifying exam of mental skill.  Thus, if you were a doctor, lawyer, 
 CPA, engineer, or actuary, you were a professional, but you couldn't 
 be a professional garbage man.  It was a status designation.

Wow, you just marginalized a small but growing segment of the
scientific community. Garbage is no longer a 7 letter word, or
something that sparks snickering or nausea ... I think you should
rethink who you want to single out here ... just saying

 
 But that's all changed now.  You're a professional at what you get 
 paid for.  Thus, Tiger Woods is a professional golfer because he 
 gets paid to golf and a NYC sanitation worker is a professional 
 sanitation engineer.  And if you have ever made $.01 from blip.tv or 
 any other revenue sharing video site or you're just really good at it 
 (and aren't we all?) then you're a professional  whatever 
 you want to call it.

Perhaps you or a loved one needs certification issued by a self
certified, certificate issuer, if so, seek no more. I never mentioned
it here before but ... if you send me proof of earnings (yes it's true
even One Red Cent) from any site that payed you and $49.95 (plus
Shipping handling and all applicable taxes), I will send you a
beautiful (suitable for framing) anything you want to be certified as
a professional. You won't find an offer online from me, like that
anywhere ... I guarantee that  

 However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content 
 creator.  That term is impersonal and abstract.  We're artists, 
 storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, 
 photographers, what have you.  Content creator suggests some awful 
 bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and 
 extruding content.
 

Hey ... Bladder. Kidney. Whatever ...  I made this joke first ...
remember? Two girls One cup ... metaphor for Consumerism 
Recycled Content come on ... don't let this David Casting guy
distract you with his clever observation and well written post.

Where did they find those Two Girls? 

Oh and this week at WalledMart buy One Cup, Get the Second Cup Free,
That's like getting 50% off two cups!!

Enjoyed the read


 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote:
 
  i agree with the opposing perspectives in this thread
  what also came to mind is that as soon as life's catastrophic events
  occur, suddenly it will be realized again the power of the so-called
  user-gen content.
  user-gen does not HAVE to mean teens expressing and working their
  personalities to each other on youtube.
  user-gen does not have to mean silly prank videos.
  user-gen does not have to mean strip-tease or dancing or 

[videoblogging] New Member Intro

2007-11-22 Thread Dina P.
Hey everyone,

My name is Dina and I'm new to the world of videoblogging and the yahoo group.  
I'm the creator/host of Get Exercised, which can be seen at 
http://getexercised.com/ 

Looking forward to learning more about other videobloggers and being in touch 
with everyone.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Dina 


Dina Prioste
By the way, you can Get Exercised with me at: 
http://getexercised.com/




   
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[videoblogging] Re: New Member Intro

2007-11-22 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Looks like you are using Joomla and blip.tv to power your site.  How  
 do you like using that combo for a vlog?
 
 Anyone else using Joomla?

I have been using Joomla for about a year now to run my website
http://hestakaup.com.  I wanted to have a coffee table kind of video
blog rather than a chronologically linear one that I felt forced into
 with blogging software.  Joomla allows me to have a menu driven
platform  in which the visitor can make selections without going into
archives.  Everything is right there on a menu tree.  

Also, I wanted to intermix video with text. I use vPIP to embed my
Flash videos so they appear without any promotional materials or
prompts, particularly at the end of the video.  That was a problem 
with blip and vimeo.  Some  of videos  run  for  more than 20 minutes
and  others for less than 20 seconds.  I needed to  be able have  have
them start right up and stream at 500 kbs.

Http://hestakaup.com is definitely not a show.  I think of it as a
video book or magazine.  Maybe  it's actually a vlog... It has a very
narrow niche which allows  me to explore  some issues at some depth. 
Joomla has a learning curve, but it works  well as a CMS.

Stan Hirson
http://hestakaup.com



Re: [videoblogging] Re: New Member Intro

2007-11-22 Thread Ron Watson
I do a lot of work on Joomla, but am not using it for a vlogging  
platform.

http://k9disc.com /
http://pawsitivevybe.com

I have some embedded video and such, but it's more of a magazine kind  
of concept.

Stan, I've not been to the site in some time, but I'll be checking it  
out.

I'll have to hit you up privately to check in and see what's up.

Welcome to the group, Dina. I'll be checking out your site.

Good luck!

Cheers,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://blogtalkradio.com/k9disc
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Nov 22, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Looks like you are using Joomla and blip.tv to power your site. How
  do you like using that combo for a vlog?
 
  Anyone else using Joomla?
 
 I have been using Joomla for about a year now to run my website
 http://hestakaup.com. I wanted to have a coffee table kind of video
 blog rather than a chronologically linear one that I felt forced into
 with blogging software. Joomla allows me to have a menu driven
 platform in which the visitor can make selections without going into
 archives. Everything is right there on a menu tree.

 Also, I wanted to intermix video with text. I use vPIP to embed my
 Flash videos so they appear without any promotional materials or
 prompts, particularly at the end of the video. That was a problem
 with blip and vimeo. Some of videos run for more than 20 minutes
 and others for less than 20 seconds. I needed to be able have have
 them start right up and stream at 500 kbs.

 Http://hestakaup.com is definitely not a show. I think of it as a
 video book or magazine. Maybe it's actually a vlog... It has a very
 narrow niche which allows me to explore some issues at some depth.
 Joomla has a learning curve, but it works well as a CMS.

 Stan Hirson
 http://hestakaup.com


 



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