Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-26 Thread Mike Meiser
My favorite example is ArtistShare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArtistShare Already they've had two musicians win grammies. One in Jazz and the other I believe was in Latin Music. I've always dreamed of some sort of crowd funded journalism. i.e. 115 people looking for someone to cover

[videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Jay dedman
I just read this good blog post: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070923-barrier-bustin-internet-may-lead-to-a-music-industry-middle-class.html The premise is that there is a burgeoning class of musicians are forming direct relationships with their fans. This cuts out the agency middle

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hey Jay, On 9/25/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just read this good blog post: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070923-barrier-bustin-internet-may-lead-to-a-music-industry-middle-class.html The premise is that there is a burgeoning class of musicians are forming direct

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Brook Hinton
Do independent video makers need to rely on advertising modelscontinuing the same relationship to a bloated middle man? No, and many of us are not willing to anyway. I don't want consumer products I may not approve of appearing on the same screen as my own work. It implies approval. Or will

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Brook Hinton
ps that should be increase several times over. Not nicerase. Though I like how that looks as a word. On 9/25/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do independent video makers need to rely on advertising modelscontinuing the same relationship to a bloated middle man? No, and many

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Brook Hinton
Recent discussion from an indie film perspective, only really dealing with the downloads vs. dvd model though: http://www.mediarights.org/engine_feed/2007/09/ifp_conference_can_filmmakers.php ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Irina
how many of yous have tried to make cash money from your blog? like, enuf money to pay the rent? On 9/25/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recent discussion from an indie film perspective, only really dealing with the downloads vs. dvd model though:

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Sull
Hey Jay, Back when HaveMoneyWillVlog.com was started, I involved myself in that project while concurrently evangelizing the concept of Crowdfunding and building a prototype for the videoblog community called fundavlog (now defunct). While HMWV was a tight advocacy based system to help fund

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Jay dedman
I'm launching something in the next month or so on my site, though I haven't arrived at a model yet. I have an immediate negative (knee jerk?) reaction to artificial exclusivity, borne of frustration at not being able to see the stuff I cared about when I was young and those aforementioned

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Here's the deal (I wrote some of this in response to Kfir Pravda's Blog Post that he mailed here last week @ http://urltea.com/1l10 ): The problem with terminology and funding in the web space is the plain and simple fact that the entire culture of video on the web is non-linear and cannot be

Re: [videoblogging] A Video Middle Class?

2007-09-25 Thread Rupert
Lots of great posts. Wish I had time to get into this one now, because I saw a great, exciting talk given by Michael Linton at Gnomedex about Open Money (basically, alternative currencies). He makes the case that widespread Open Money is not a possibility, it's an inevitability. It's