Lots of great posts. Wish I had time to get into this one now, because I saw a great, exciting talk given by Michael Linton at Gnomedex about Open Money (basically, alternative currencies). He makes the case that widespread Open Money is not a possibility, it's an inevitability. It's just a question of when.
He talks about alternative currencies being used within distinct communities and networks. Of course, I immediately thought of us. Here it is: http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/09/19/michael-linton/ I wish I had time to put my mind to it properly and discuss, but I'm snowed under - so in the meantime I thought I'd pass it on to all of you who think a lot about funding & innovation, particularly Sull and Meiser and Jay and Jeffrey. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 25 Sep 2007, at 22:00, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: Here's the deal (I wrote some of this in response to Kfir Pravda's Blog Post that he mailed here last week @ http://urltea.com/1l10 ): The problem with terminology and funding in the web space is the plain and simple fact that the entire culture of video on the web is non-linear and cannot be easily defined and many content creators don't want to be. The best we can hope for is one definition per setting, be it one video, one site, one player, or one network. But we should should consider ourselves "lucky" if we even get that. The problem we are encountering right now is that the culture of business that sponsors and finances video on the web is completely linear and their concepts of what videos are are completely past-based. "They" need terminology that has content fit in boxes of a defined shape and size in order to survive and to justify the funding of projects, and this poses a problem for producers that don't want to be confined by those boxes. And we're seeing many well-intended agreements unravel and many wonderfully-conceived video projects lose their organic feel and charismatic nature because of this collision of the linear and non-linear. For me, finding an "answer" in revenue models, and not necessarily advertising models, that allow creators the freedom to just plain create is where the fun is. What I fear, though, is there may just be too many people willing to sacrifice that freedom and will climb inside the boxes before we can get the momentum going for anything else. On 25/09/2007, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm launching something in the next month or so on my site, though I > haven't >> arrived at a model yet. I have an immediate negative (knee jerk?) > reaction >> to artificial exclusivity, borne of frustration at not being able >> to see > the >> stuff I cared about when I was young and those aforementioned >> punkesque >> values, which is part of what makes me love the videblogging world so > much. >> But I also believe that artists should be able to make a living from > their >> work, and that when artists are prevented from devoting their working > hours >> to it the work suffers, and so does the culture. > > everyone has had some good insights on this topic. > charles, heath, sull, brook. > I know Irina and I have talked about earning an independent living > through videoblogging. > anything but simply becoming an employee again. > > ive changed my thinking lately. > I grew to think of videobloggers are just being bloggers. > (text) bloggers dont expect to get paid. > if they do, they work for a company that pays them to blog about > certain subjects. > for many videobloggers this may be true. > this is the wonderful world of blogging. > > But im starting to see another sphere of videobloggers who are more > akin to musicians. > They are making art, entertainment, and stories. > Like music, the videos are really valuable stuff to a certain > audience....and it takes a lot of creative time and effort to make it > happen. These videos cant be done in a coffee break at work. > > Like musicians, I guess its about setting expectations. > How much do you need each month to live and create? > How much do you really love and need to do it? > How can you create a really strong relationship with the people who > watch? > How can you take advantage of the opportunities that come up? > How to be become creative at just living a different kind of life? > > I see some in the music world who have gotten filthy rich and > famous....but I also mostly love the musicians who have created music > that informs my life...who helped change the way I think and see the > world. I assume these musicians wouldnt have done it any other way. > > Its something we dont talk about openly...but every videblogger on > this list that took the plunge in the past couple years to really > focus on their video work has been successful in some way. Committed > creativity is always rewarded (though not always in the ways you > expect). Some form of sacrafice is usually always necessary. > > Dont know where I'm going with this line of thinking. > Maybe its that I see the same kind of passion in videoblogging as I do > in the music world. > > Jay > > -- > http://jaydedman.com > 917 371 6790 > Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > -- Jeffrey Taylor President and COO, Kinooga Mobile: +33625497654 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! 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