Hey Jay,

Back when HaveMoneyWillVlog.com was started, I involved myself in that
project while concurrently evangelizing the concept of "Crowdfunding" and
building a prototype for the videoblog community called fundavlog (now
defunct).  While HMWV was a tight advocacy based system to help fund
videobloggers, fundavlog was an open community to showcase videoblog
projects the creators behind them and provide simple ways to fund them.  It
was largely dependent on Trust and the ideas behind Reciprocity.  The point
was simply to expose good content and let the viewers send money to those
involved in creating that content.
No middle-man except a small core volunteer team to manage the site and the
transactions (oversight and optional handling).  No costs were involved so
the strategy did not involve scraping percentages from each "donation".

I guess I lost some faith in this along the way.... probably because so much
attention was being put on traditional revenue systems via advertising
models and maybe the idea of Crowdfunding as a viable alternative was
over-zealous.  Or maybe time will tell.  There have obviously been many
success cases, some of which are logged on the Crowdfunding wiki that Mike
Meiser and I put together (was removed from wikipedia).

http://crowdfunding.pbwiki.com/

It all comes down to the most appreciative of the audience.... and if they
are willing to toss in a few bucks now and then for being regular consumers
of your content.  It takes a certain kind of person to voluntarily send
someone money for the otherwise free works that you are putting out there.
My hope is that eventually, this certain kind of person will become very
common.  HMWV showed me that this is possible.

You could also look at the porn industry, both past and present, for
examples on how they handle these things.  Sure, there is a high-demand for
porn which fuels their successes, but content aside, there have been
innovative approaches takken over the years.... some sketchy, some legit.
Some traditional, Some Progressive.

I do believe that the music industry will largely be transformed even more
than it has already been..... and continue to be... as we move into the
future.  And Artist/Fan Relationships are at the core of that.

Still, there is value and power in agencies that can take you to "the next
level" and that will always be enticing..... but if the long-term math
doesnt work... and you should be able to figure that out.... and if your fan
base is depp and strong... then logical decisions will come from that and
those will start to more often be strategies of the independent kind....
with little or no middle-man component.

For Net Video Productions..... Same can apply.  But I'd say that you cannot
directly compare music and video.  There are and will be video "rockstars",
but both the consumers and type of content will be too different to assume
anything between the two and how things are evolving, culturally and
financially.

HMWV was important because the projects were deemed important.... and worthy
of financial support from the community.  But how often do net video shows
fall into this category of important media? media worth funding.... media
that needs to exist and propagate.... media that can help change things or
media that can entertain us more than what is available in other traditional
outlets?  media that people are willing to pay for, even though they may not
have to in order to consume it?

So, it's important to balance the need for advertising and sponsorships
together with the willingness of the crowd to tip you for a job well done.

Sull






On 9/25/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I just read this good blog post:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070923-barrier-bustin-internet-may-lead-to-a-music-industry-middle-class.html
>
> The premise is that there is a burgeoning class of musicians are
> forming direct relationships with their fans. This cuts out the
> agency middle men...and all the high costs of promotion. Independent
> musicians can then hope to make a living by selling their own music
> and doing live performances.
>
> Reading the article, I wonder if you could apply the same logic to
> online video. Do independent video makers need to rely on advertising
> models....continuing the same relationship to a bloated middle man? Or
> will a different relationship develop between people watching and the
> people who make the stuff they want to watch?
>
> jay
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