[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Watkins
It can get quite confusing. Not exactly comparing like for like, although the end results may be the same. Joomla is an existing opensource content management system, with a wide variety of extensions, and the ability for developers to use it like a framework and add their own functionality

[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can get quite confusing. Not exactly comparing like for like, although the end results may be the same. I think Steve has given an excellent response to the question. I am not a programmer or developer and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Roxanne Darling
I'll be a contrarian here. We are developers and depending on what requirements you have, $15K is not at all expensive. A person may be able to set up a site in a day or two, but that is on the base code and server config. Are you also requiring custom design? That adds a few grand easily. And

[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Sounds good to me. So much comes down to the experience level of the person who wants the site, from their technical skills to how far theyve got a detailed concrete spec of what they need. Im not much good with money, but I guess the issue of exactly how much something should cost is not just

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Robyn Tippins
I've used Joomla, and from the point of view of a relative novice, Joomla was a breeze to setup. I installed the bridge and created an SMF forum that sat quite nicely in the middle of the Joomla setup. The contacts were all in the same database so there was no need to have people sign up for the

[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 21/5/07 Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 comm that: I am not a programmer or developer and came at this as a documentary film maker who needed something a bit more flexible than blogging software. I chose Joomla. If you

[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Theres tons of Joomla modules, many free ones, but certainly there are quite a lot of commercial ones out there too, especially media handling ones. Same with templates, there are way more Joomla templates out there than Drupal ones. So there may be more Joomla developers out there than Drupal

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Ron Watson
I am running a couple of joomla sites: http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com I've also administrated Drupal. I find Drupal to require more coding and programming skills, a better understanding of workflow and such, but I think that it is probably easier to administrate if you have the

[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Dee Copeland
Ron, I'm digging your sites. I think Joomla is very cool and I hadn't really checked it out. It's way to go for a personal web 2.0 project that I had in mind. I agree with the community here that PHP or Ruby is the way to go for our commercial project. We plan on having hundreds or thousands of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Roxanne Darling
You guys are doing a great job of making my points for me! :-) 1) The very fact that you can research all of this and get it going means you are a techie; client here is not. 2) I'd prefer it if you had certain key phrases in bold, like: I have $30 invested in my 2 sites, and a whole bunch

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Ron Watson
2) I'd prefer it if you had certain key phrases in bold, like: I have $30 invested in my 2 sites, and a whole bunch of time figuring out the ins and outs of the software.*** What is your time worth to work for someone else who wants a commercial application? As a client, how many corners

[videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Im not sure the the overall advice here is that you should go for php or Ruby rather than a CMS. At the end of the day drupal and joomla are php, just that lots of people have already written most of what you need I php, rather than getting someone to write a php site from scratch. I dont know

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joomla versus Zend PHP for Web 2.0 community

2007-05-21 Thread Erick Papadakis
Joomla and Drupal are CMSes, written in PHP. You may want to read up on Drupal having teething troubles with MySQL and the way their tables are structured, considering huge changes to the system, hitting a wall in the process. Joomla is no better. It's a great system to play around with, but it's