[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread liza jean
one of the new people there was bill grueskin (formerly of WSJ) http://www.observer.com/2008/bill-grueskin-leaves-i-journal-i-heads- columbia-j-school he did infer that he thinks the future is SMALL PRODUCTION COMPANIES (2-10 ppl) producing media (this is not a direct quote and he and i

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Drew
What concerns me most of all is that we really need companies like Revision3 to succeed. The independent content creator, and in turn, independent production companies and studios, are really being overshadowed by the efforts of the Hollywood studios and entertainment conglomerates. For

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Rupert
Great post. On 29-Oct-08, at 8:42 AM, Drew wrote: What concerns me most of all is that we really need companies like Revision3 to succeed. The independent content creator, and in turn, independent production companies and studios, are really being overshadowed by the efforts of the

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Heath
They control the programing for the masses, because, as I have said again and again, the masses just want to watch TV, good, TV or what they perceive as good TV, yes, they may gripe about ads, or quality but at the end of the day, they just want to sit down and watch TV. If that's on their

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Robyn Tippins
Drew, great post, especially the talent part. I've been dying to start my own video work back up but I'm good at some things and I totally suck at some other things and know that the answer is collaboration. If anyone wants to work collaboratively on a weekly show in the bay area, lemme know.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Rupert
Further to what Rox said about collective action, it seems to me that all the things Drew set out in his post would be much more easily achieved by an organised association or union or company of independent producers. Those of you who produce shows and treat it like a business. You know

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread sull
Drew, Good thoughts. I'd ignore hulu etc in the context of the independent scene. It's a consortium of old media getting their content on the net. I've written about how I feel that it is a flawed strategy overall but certainly accomplishes some goals for those involved. hulu, as popular as it

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread sull
the union or guild stuff was a focus late 2006/early 2007. i had setup a blog/group called ourtu.be at the time for discussions on that but it died out. group is still out there though - http://groups.google.com/group/ourtube/ maybe someone should refresh those ideas somewhere. bypass the msm

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Rey
A thoughtful post, Andrew. I agree that walled gardens and bandwidth caps are enemies of the indie content creator, but I'm not convinced building a new Hulu is the answer. Plenty of distribution channels exist for good content to bubble up. We've come far in that department over the past 3

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Irina
this is where i agree with rick i dont want to start another company that will end up having similar struggles and succumbing to economic hardships i live in silicon valley/sf area so i have seen many independent minded people start up companies only to find out that a year or two down the road

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Irina
i do agree with drew taht rev3 was too much trying to be like a regular tv network On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rick Rey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thoughtful post, Andrew. I agree that walled gardens and bandwidth caps are enemies of the indie content creator, but I'm not convinced

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread taulpaulmpls
If anyone is interested. I can show you the conversions we received for the Carmex Lip Balm sponsorship we did on Epic Fu, up against a banner sponsorship we did on the Vimeo lip dub channel. Dollar for dollar, Epic Fu drove more sign-ups (conversions)...but you didn't need me to tell you guys

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Irina
yes i'm very interested [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:07 PM, taulpaulmpls [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If anyone is interested. I can show you the conversions we received for the Carmex Lip Balm sponsorship we did on Epic Fu, up against a banner sponsorship we did on the Vimeo lip

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread Doug Sapp
count me in. I am also very interested [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wallawallavalley.tv/ http://www.sappdvfilms.comhttp://www.sappdvfilms.com http://www.wallawallavalley.tv/ If anyone is interested. I can show you the conversions we received for the Carmex Lip Balm sponsorship we did

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-29 Thread taulpaulmpls
Alright, I'll compile a post and get it up here tomorrow. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Doug Sapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: count me in. I am also very interested [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wallawallavalley.tv/ http://www.sappdvfilms.comhttp://www.sappdvfilms.com

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-28 Thread danielmcvicar
Steve and Zadi inspired me to make the crossover to the world of online video and I am always in their debt. We will see many great things from them...like we have come to expect. Including keeping their community active. That is hard and worthwhile work. D --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-28 Thread Irina
shit i go visit my father in offline deep maryland for four days and just got back maybe i should have stayed off line grrr On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, danielmcvicar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Steve and Zadi inspired me to make the crossover to the world of online video and I am

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-28 Thread Steve Woolf
I just wanted to chime in here and thank everyone for so much support. We've always said that if it wasn't for the people in this group supporting us right out of the gate in June 2006, we wouldn't have ever made it past the first few months. So we really appreciate it. We were saddened to find

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-28 Thread Roxanne Darling
I keep hearing from so many corners, advertisers do not yet grok new media. They are addicted to large numbers, even though increasingly we learn those large numbers represent phantom viewers (viewers who tivo, who are passed out on the couch and cannot act, etc.) Similarly, we have not had that

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-28 Thread Irina
i just spent about a week with some fancy-pants columbia jschool people and we discussed all this kinds of stuffs yep, i was the only one out of 20 on the alumni committee who is from the internet it is totally a transitional period and we are just in the beginning of it one of the women on the

[videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu

2008-10-27 Thread Kent Nichols
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw this now, probably a bit of old news for some, but sad nonethelessSteve and Zadi are great people and I am sure this is a kick in the gut in many ways...