[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Bill Streeter



I gotta admit I tend to agree with them. The name is unfortunate.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Vloggercon got a so-so mention on Sunday's This Week In Tech 
podcast: 
 http://twit.tv/56
 (it's about two-thirds of the way through). Mostly it was just 
making 
 fun of how the word vloggercon sounds.
 
 That's real funny coming from a bunch of twits and guys named 
Laporte 
 and Dvorak.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread LeanBackVids.com



HAHAHA, they do a lot of dissing on the word vlog... and Leo
mentions Andrew Congdon and Amanda from Rocketboom. He also says
this is the first meeting of vloggers.

Leo has a history of misrepresenting information. One time he dissed
Feedburner about publicly announcing his stats, yet he had the
Awareness API running which publizes the numbers. Needless to say,
all the TWiT fanboys took Leo's word and began hating on Feedburner
and canceling their accounts. Very lame.

Anyways, back to this recent incident... Leo goes on to mention
something about doing the TWiT show from the Apple store on Friday. 
Is he trying to overshadow the Meet the Vloggers event?

Oh and maybe someone should contact Patrick since he was offended that
nobody invited him to be a media sponsor.

On a side note, Amber and crew will be at Vloggercon shooting and
episode of Torrent...
http://www.g4techtv.ca/torrent/episode/index.shtml

Viva la vlogs.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Vloggercon got a so-so mention on Sunday's This Week In Tech podcast: 
 http://twit.tv/56
 (it's about two-thirds of the way through). Mostly it was just making 
 fun of how the word vloggercon sounds.
 
 That's real funny coming from a bunch of twits and guys named Laporte 
 and Dvorak.
 
 +Nathan
 
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Casey McKinnon



I agree with you Bill... I've always had issues using the word 'vlog'
in my vocabulary! 'Videoblog' is not so annoying... but at the same
time it IS because it sounds like you are a simple Blogger... when you
often put in MUCH more effort into what you do!

Casey
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I gotta admit I tend to agree with them. The name is unfortunate.
 
 Bill Streeter
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 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathan Freitas nathan@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  Vloggercon got a so-so mention on Sunday's This Week In Tech 
 podcast: 
  http://twit.tv/56
  (it's about two-thirds of the way through). Mostly it was just 
 making 
  fun of how the word vloggercon sounds.
  
  That's real funny coming from a bunch of twits and guys named 
 Laporte 
  and Dvorak.
  
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread LeanBackVids.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why do people listen to this?
 I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
chance,
 but wow.

TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's
Digg.com got big.

The whole name bashing is very weak...

Blog is short for web log.
Vlog is short for video blog.

Seems to make the most sense to me.

What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?

Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.

Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is
probably owned by Verizon.

IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV.

I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs
tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can
only find in iTunes. Just my 2 cents.

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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Casey McKinnon



It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
sexism video fiasco. That was FULL of complaining.

Casey
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 is complaining about everything just the way these podcasts work?
 
 On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Michael Verdi wrote:
   So-so? That was pathetic. They sounded like 12-years-olds making fun
   of someone.
  Well, that's how they always sound, so in context
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Michael Sullivan



whats a vlog again?On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do people listen to this? I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
chance, but wow.TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following.It is how Kevin Rose'sDigg.com got big.The whole name bashing is very weak...Blog is short for web log.
Vlog is short for video blog.Seems to make the most sense to me.What do the TWiTs recommend?Vodcast?That is stupid.What the hell is a vod?Video podcast?May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.Vidcast or Vcast?Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast isprobably owned by Verizon.IPTV?This has nothing to do with TV.I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
stay.I do differentiate between the two though.In my mind, vlogstend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you canonly find in iTunes.Just my 2 cents.-Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Devlon



complaining vs. stating your point of view...it all depends what side of the fence one is on.It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's truth (truth to us alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point of view, or a matter of opnion.
The day would go by much easier if people remembered that and maybe discussions would stay at discussions and not degenerated into silliness.On 6/5/06, 
Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
sexism video fiasco. That was FULL of complaining.

Casey
http://www.galacticast.com/


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 is complaining about everything just the way these podcasts work?
 
 On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Michael Verdi wrote:
   So-so? That was pathetic. They sounded like 12-years-olds making fun
   of someone.
  Well, that's how they always sound, so in context
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Chris Daniel



Ha.. vlogger is a better name than twit :)


On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I gotta admit I tend to agree with them. The name is unfortunate.

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  Vloggercon got a so-so mention on Sunday's This Week In Tech
 podcast:
  http://twit.tv/56
  (it's about two-thirds of the way through). Mostly it was just
 making
  fun of how the word vloggercon sounds.
 
  That's real funny coming from a bunch of twits and guys named
 Laporte
  and Dvorak.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread LeanBackVids.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
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 whats a vlog again?

wikipedia
Vlog: A vlog or video blog is a blog (short for weblog) which uses
video as the primary content; the video is linked to within a
videoblog post and usually accompanied by supporting text, image, and
additional metadata to provide context.

Blog: A weblog (usually shortened to blog, but occasionally spelled
web log or weblog) is a web-based publication consisting primarily of
periodic articles, most often in reverse chronological order.
/wikipedia

But is this new?... Video on the Internet has existed for years. I
used to work for ESPN and we would post videos of the medal winning
runs at the X Games. It was timely and cronological. RSS was not
common at that time, but how was that not a vlog? According to the
above definition, it was... and it was also the year 1999 (5 years
before vlogs were invented).

So part of me does not view vlogging as something new. In my opinion,
it is simply video over IP. However, I do think RSS with media
enclosures is a huge changing factor. Does that mean a vlog must have
RSS? We've tackled this debate before and I'd argue it does not. 
Another helping factor was the reduction in price for cameras and
bandwidth.

My point is that we didn't really have a name for video on the
Internet before, but now we are trying to label every type of video
with a single name. I'm not sure it is possible or if everyone will
ever agree.

Matter of fact, I'm not even sure it matters. Video is video. Your
method of consumption will probably be labeled by the device you
choose to watch it on.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Nathan Freitas




I was most surprised by how disconnected and dismissive the 
TWiT/dl.tv/digg crowd was towards videoblogging in general. Hopefully 
they will show up and have a change of heart and understand why going to 
a conference at the Swedish American Hall is ten times better than going 
to yet another blah-tech-expo at the Moscone Center.

+nathan

Devlon wrote:
 complaining vs. stating your point of view...it all depends what 
 side of the fence one is on.

 It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced 
 what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's 
 truth (truth to us alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point 
 of view, or a matter of opnion.

 The day would go by much easier if people remembered that and maybe 
 discussions would stay at discussions and not degenerated into silliness.

 On 6/5/06, * Casey McKinnon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
 sexism video fiasco. That was FULL of complaining.


 Casey
 http://www.galacticast.com/


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
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 wrote:
 
  is complaining about everything just the way these podcasts work?
 
  On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Michael Verdi wrote:
So-so? That was pathetic. They sounded like 12-years-olds
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of someone.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Devlon



I'll have to give it a listen tonight, see if I have an opinion about it :)I am sure a ton of people didn't get blogging when it first started gaining popularity, same with podcasting...same with 'recording video and putting it online in a bloggy fashion', or as some of us call it, videoblogging.
On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I was most surprised by how disconnected and dismissive the 
TWiT/dl.tv/digg crowd was towards videoblogging in general. Hopefully 
they will show up and have a change of heart and understand why going to 
a conference at the Swedish American Hall is ten times better than going 
to yet another blah-tech-expo at the Moscone Center.

+nathan

Devlon wrote:
 complaining vs. stating your point of view...it all depends what 
 side of the fence one is on.

 It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced 
 what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's 
 truth (truth to us alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point 
 of view, or a matter of opnion.

 The day would go by much easier if people remembered that and maybe 
 discussions would stay at discussions and not degenerated into silliness.

 On 6/5/06, * Casey McKinnon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
 sexism video fiasco. That was FULL of complaining.


 Casey
 http://www.galacticast.com/


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread robert a/k/a r



Wait, oooh, wait. Why don't we call this video over IP thing we're 
doing simply VoIP.

Nah, never mind, that'll never catch on, it's too hard to pronounce :o)



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 whats a vlog again?

 ... In my opinion,
 it is simply video over IP. ...





  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Leo



maybe more vloggers need to talk about scoble, doc searls, TWIT, Winer, etc.. More vloggers need to talk about themselves and focus solely on internet culture and tech stuff... that way the people using RSS, the podcasters, and te big-wigs will love us... 
I prefer to make videos about the rest of life outside of the internet.. I find it to be much more fulfilling and dramatic..I find that to be the trend though, things like GETV, and Rocketboom will get their attention because they are geared more towards their area of interest... I highly Doubt that Leo Laporte is gonna lose his sh$ over my new kitten, but that is ok by me. I mean it would be awesome to hit the front page of DIGG, but my vlogs don't serve that audience...
It is always tough because the people who are constantly using the internet and pioneering new ways to use it, are interested in tech stuff more than personal stories. (understandably so) So Internet Success is determined by the people with those interests. This is why we need to teach all the moms, grandmas, teens, blue collar joes, and white collar joans about this new way of finding content. 
I'd love a mass audience of a thousand grannies, cause I know that my content isnt gonna hold the attention of all the DIGG users, techTV viewers, and PHP freaks.TWIT is just one voice (a louder voice at the moment) but it is or job to make the rest of people's voices jsut as loud...
On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was most surprised by how disconnected and dismissive theTWiT/dl.tv/digg crowd was towards videoblogging in general. Hopefullythey will show up and have a change of heart and understand why going toa conference at the Swedish American Hall is ten times better than going
to yet another blah-tech-expo at the Moscone Center.+nathanDevlon wrote: complaining vs. stating your point of view...it all depends what side of the fence one is on.
 It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's truth (truth to us alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point
 of view, or a matter of opnion. The day would go by much easier if people remembered that and maybe discussions would stay at discussions and not degenerated into silliness. On 6/5/06, * Casey McKinnon* 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
 sexism video fiasco.That was FULL of complaining. Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  is complaining about everything just the way these podcasts work?   On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Verdi wrote:
So-so? That was pathetic. They sounded like 12-years-olds making funof someone.   Well, that's how they always sound, so in context
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

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to yet another blah-tech-expo at the Moscone Center.I always wonder about this... I mean, to some degree, those folks all started in old media, actually making names for themselves on TV, radio, etc. That's where they grew their following, not as much in the new media, so they might be working under the idea that building their brands is of greater importance than promoting podcasting, videoblogging, etc to the general public. More voices from the masses could equal less of their own brands in the spotlight.
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Enric



There's a larger concept of Rich Media on distributed networks that
videoblogging is a subset. To my knowledge this concept has not been
fully articulated.

Definitions are inevitable and mainly beneficial.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 whats a vlog again?
 
 On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk bullemhead@
wrote:
  
   Why do people listen to this?
   I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
  chance,
   but wow.
 
  TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's
  Digg.com got big.
 
  The whole name bashing is very weak...
 
  Blog is short for web log.
  Vlog is short for video blog.
 
  Seems to make the most sense to me.
 
  What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
  That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
 
  Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
  grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.
 
  Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is
  probably owned by Verizon.
 
  IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV.
 
  I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
  stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs
  tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Robert Scoble





Nah, there are enough people talking about tech. And there 
certainly are enough people talking about me.

We need more videobloggers covering other 
things.

One thing, though, I would think about what search terms 
you want to own and focus on those.

For instance, are you doing a vlog that focuses on 
environmentalism? Well, how come Google can't find it?

http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=c2coff=1q=Enivonmental+vlog

One reason tech 
blogs and podcasts get popular is there's a good audience online that cares 
about that.

What else do people care about? Are you doing a Vlog about 
that? Can people find it, how?

I don't know that you need to talk about yourself. I do a 
video series for Microsoft that's gotten very popular and I just interview other 
people about what they are working on.

Robert Scoble
###




From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh 
LeoSent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:59 PMTo: 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: 
vloggercon mention on twit
maybe more vloggers need to talk about scoble, doc searls, TWIT, 
Winer, etc.. More vloggers need to talk about themselves and focus solely on 
internet culture and tech stuff... that way the people using RSS, the 
podcasters, and te big-wigs will love us... I prefer to make videos 
about the rest of life outside of the internet.. I find it to be much more 
fulfilling and dramatic..I find that to be the trend though, things like 
GETV, and Rocketboom will get their attention because they are geared more 
towards their area of interest... I highly Doubt that Leo Laporte is gonna lose 
his sh$ over my new kitten, but that is ok by me. I mean it would be 
awesome to hit the front page of DIGG, but my vlogs don't serve that audience... 
It is always tough because the people who are constantly using the 
internet and pioneering new ways to use it, are interested in "tech stuff" more 
than personal stories. (understandably so) So "Internet Success" is determined 
by the people with those interests. This is why we need to teach all the moms, 
grandmas, teens, blue collar joes, and white collar joans about this new way of 
finding content. I'd love a mass audience of a thousand grannies, cause 
I know that my content isnt gonna hold the attention of all the DIGG users, 
techTV viewers, and PHP freaks.TWIT is just one voice (a louder 
voice at the moment) but it is or job to make the rest of people's voices jsut 
as loud... 
On 6/5/06, Nathan 
Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
I 
  was most surprised by how disconnected and dismissive theTWiT/dl.tv/digg 
  crowd was towards videoblogging in general. Hopefullythey will show up and 
  have a change of heart and understand why going toa conference at the 
  Swedish American Hall is ten times better than going to yet another 
  blah-tech-expo at the Moscone Center.+nathanDevlon 
  wrote: "complaining" vs. "stating your point of view"...it all depends 
  what side of the fence one is on.  It would be so much 
  easier to handle discussions if every prefaced what they said with 'as 
  I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's truth (truth to us 
  alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point  of view, or a 
  matter of opnion. The day would go by much easier if people 
  remembered that and maybe discussions would stay at discussions and 
  not degenerated into silliness. On 6/5/06, * Casey McKinnon* 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: It happens in videoblogging as 
  well Josh... don't forget that whole  sexism 
  video fiasco.That was FULL of 
  complaining. 
  Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Josh Leo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  
   is complaining about everything just the way these podcasts 
  work?  
   On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  
 Michael Verdi wrote: 
  So-so? That was pathetic. They 
  sounded like 12-years-olds making 
  funof 
  someone.   Well, that's how they 
  always sound, so in context   
 
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Mike Moon



Torrent is the show I first saw Michael Verdi discussing freevlog.com.
Shortly after viewing the episode, I bought my camera and started my
vlogging.

It's a pretty cool show. Built on vlogs and podcasts.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Joshua Kinberg



 What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
 That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?

VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On Demand

In that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast,
which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players.

Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others.

-Josh


On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why do people listen to this?
  I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
 chance,
  but wow.

 TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's
 Digg.com got big.

 The whole name bashing is very weak...

 Blog is short for web log.
 Vlog is short for video blog.

 Seems to make the most sense to me.

 What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
 That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?

 Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
 grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.

 Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is
 probably owned by Verizon.

 IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV.

 I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
 stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs
 tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Leo



Hey you guys, I got an Idea.. Let's have that discussion where we all argue about what videoblogging should be called... it was fun the last 5 times we did it!On 6/5/06, 
Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What do the TWiTs recommend?Vodcast? That is stupid.What the hell is a vod?VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On DemandIn that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast,
which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players.Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others.-JoshOn 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Why do people listen to this?
  I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair chance,  but wow. TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following.It is how Kevin Rose's 
Digg.com got big. The whole name bashing is very weak... Blog is short for web log. Vlog is short for video blog. Seems to make the most sense to me.
 What do the TWiTs recommend?Vodcast? That is stupid.What the hell is a vod? Video podcast?May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.
 Vidcast or Vcast?Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is probably owned by Verizon. IPTV?This has nothing to do with TV. I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
 stay.I do differentiate between the two though.In my mind, vlogs tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can only find in iTunes.Just my 2 cents. -Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Andreas Haugstrup



On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:33:25 +0200, Robert Scoble 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For instance, are you doing a vlog that focuses on environmentalism? 
 Well,
 how come Google can't find it?
 http://www.google.com/search?num=100
 http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=c2coff=1q=Enivonmental+vlog
 hl=enlr=c2coff=1q=Enivonmental+vlog

This might be an unecessary cheap-shot - especially since I agree with 
everything you said... But you transposed the 'i' and 'v' in 
'enviromental' and that's probably why you can't find anything. There are 
some useful links listed at URL: 
http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enc2coff=1sa=Xoi=spellresnum=0ct=resultcd=1q=Environmental+vlogspell=1 


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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Bill Streeter



Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable
On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple
branded name. 

Bill Streeter
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
  That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
 
 VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On Demand
 
 In that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast,
 which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players.
 
 Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others.
 
 -Josh
 
 
 On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk bullemhead@
wrote:
  
   Why do people listen to this?
   I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
  chance,
   but wow.
 
  TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's
  Digg.com got big.
 
  The whole name bashing is very weak...
 
  Blog is short for web log.
  Vlog is short for video blog.
 
  Seems to make the most sense to me.
 
  What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
  That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
 
  Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
  grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.
 
  Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is
  probably owned by Verizon.
 
  IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV.
 
  I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
  stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs
  tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can
  only find in iTunes. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Joshua Kinberg



 Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable
 On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple
 branded name.

That was only after people had started to complain, but the podcast
train had already left the station.

Adam Curry always referred to the iPod platform beginning with Daily
Source Code episode #1.


-Josh


On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable
 On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple
 branded name.

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 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
   That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
 
  VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On Demand
 
  In that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast,
  which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players.
 
  Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others.
 
  -Josh
 
 
  On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk bullemhead@
 wrote:
   
Why do people listen to this?
I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
   chance,
but wow.
  
   TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's
   Digg.com got big.
  
   The whole name bashing is very weak...
  
   Blog is short for web log.
   Vlog is short for video blog.
  
   Seems to make the most sense to me.
  
   What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
   That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
  
   Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
   grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.
  
   Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is
   probably owned by Verizon.
  
   IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV.
  
   I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
   stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs
   tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can
   only find in iTunes. Just my 2 cents.
  
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[videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread LeanBackVids.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey you guys, I got an Idea.. Let's have that discussion where we 
 all argue about what videoblogging should be called...
 it was fun the last 5 times we did it!

This is when your personal filter should come in to play and tune the
redundant conversation out.

As for the naming debate, I think the method of video consumption is
what should labeled and not the site/creator/process.

For example, I have video on my site...

If you watch my video via Tivo's RSS features, that is considered
IPTV. If you watch my video on your iPod, that is a video podcasting.
 If you watch video on my blog, that is video blogging.

What is the one label for what I'm creating? VIDEO.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Devlon



On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you watch my video via Tivo's RSS features, that is considered
IPTV. If you watch my video on your iPod, that is a video podcasting.
 If you watch video on my blog, that is video blogging.I am all for never hearing the debate again, as well as personal filters to tune it out but, watching video on a blog is videoblogging? 
Great, now I am really confused ;) (note the humour)I am guessing you meant the act of consuming videos on a blog is consuming videoblogging? The act of consuming video on an iPod is consuming video-podcasting?

What is the one label for what I'm creating? VIDEO.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Steve Garfield



Nice.

On Jun 5, 2006, at 7:01 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

 If you watch my video via Tivo's RSS features, that is considered
 IPTV.  If you watch my video on your iPod, that is a video podcasting.
 If you watch video on my blog, that is video blogging.

 What is the one label for what I'm creating?  VIDEO.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Digital Buddha



Growing up watching the Mod Squad, I hereby co-opt Modcast! Media On Demand. It's all just history repeatin'...On 6/5/06, Joshua Kinberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable
 On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple
 branded name.

That was only after people had started to complain, but the podcast
train had already left the station.

Adam Curry always referred to the iPod platform beginning with Daily
Source Code episode #1.


-Josh


On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable
 On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple
 branded name.

 Bill Streeter
 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
   That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
 
  VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On Demand
 
  In that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast,
  which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players.
 
  Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others.
 
  -Josh
 
 
  On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk bullemhead@

 wrote:
   
Why do people listen to this?
I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair
   chance,
but wow.
  
   TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's
   Digg.com got big.
  
   The whole name bashing is very weak...
  
   Blog is short for web log.
   Vlog is short for video blog.
  
   Seems to make the most sense to me.
  
   What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast?
   That is stupid. What the hell is a vod?
  
   Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to
   grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped.
  
   Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is
   probably owned by Verizon.
  
   IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV.
  
   I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to
   stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs
   tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can
   only find in iTunes. Just my 2 cents.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

2006-06-05 Thread Nathanial Freitas



Pete Prodoehl wrote:
 I always wonder about this... I mean, to some degree, those folks all 
 started in old media, actually making names for themselves on TV, 
 radio, etc. That's where they grew their following, not as much in the 
 new media, so they might be working under the idea that building their 
 brands is of greater importance than promoting podcasting, 
 videoblogging, etc to the general public. More voices from the masses 
 could equal less of their own brands in the spotlight.
I entirely agree on this point. Most of these folks were forced into 
this new online career path with the demise of Tech/G4/ZDTV (whatever it 
was called). While innovative in their ability to take advantage of 
these new technologies, they mostly likely still hold some biases about 
being what it means to be a broadcaster.

Its similar to the who is a journalist debate thats been raging for a 
while now.


Josh Leo wrote:
 I prefer to make videos about the rest of life outside of the 
 internet.. I find it to be much more fulfilling and dramatic..
...and please continue to do so. I enjoy them greatly. TWiT for me is 
background noise while I write code. I actually pay attention when I 
watch your videos.
 It is always tough because the people who are constantly using the 
 internet and pioneering new ways to use it, are interested in tech 
 stuff more than personal stories. (understandably so) So Internet 
 Success is determined by
And so the continued search for that sweet spot somewhere between the 
Slashdot/Digg crowd and the YouTube/MySpace mob continues

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