[videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
Post of the week On a different note, I haven't done this in a while: GROUP HUG I really appreiciate what we are doing: demanding that we communicate. I forget that sometimes on this list. But really, just because I'm shouting in the corner, does not mean you have to answer. I'm not worried, someone will. love schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webzine2005.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, juan gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It runs thick in my blood to Rebel against the shoulds and coulds. Wierd, absurd, experimental, intellectually creative, emotionally destructive documentation, as well as mindboggling retarded/ridiculus PLAY , are the FUNdeMentals of Why I Vlog or do Art in general. Of coarse DRAW THE LINE to Where I can do, say, post what ever the heavenly hell I want, when I want is just part of my arrogant fodder to cross that Barrier. (Kinda like taking a guitar to War instead of a gun. Not that I have but in my own Way choose to do the ArtThang and not Murder.) Whether anyone is watching today, tomarrow or yesterday. I take the future into consideration and all the other Vlogs and VideoArt of the past/future culture pitree dishes into Thought. Moreso today when it's in my POWER to choose what to see, hear, decide my level of involvement. (of coarse there are subconcious levels that I may not be able to control and that's awesome too I'm all for irrational thoughts) Privacy isn't necessarily dead in my opinion I dont believe anything or anyone is watching me all the time. (hyper extreme trailblazing thought) Yet I understand the trail left behind in the various forms so if Privacy is indeed dead... I shrug eh So What? I got nothing to hide, if anything I want to be found. I think it's Astonishing that Jay and Ryanne have met through these sandwiched mediums. Vloging offers that availability to connect, share, collaborate. Wheter it's wierd, boreing, trucks, fish, botony, cats, kids, love, etc Behind every Vlog there are individuals, people, companies and corporations. It's the internet and I see No Hiearchies just like Art. The only gatekeeper is myselves. note1 Livejournal isnt crap, like anything else everywhere else It's what the individual makes it. I tend to make mine inclusive not exclusive. I walk right by heiarchies, sometimes i stay and take alook around maybe strike up a conversation, stand in line abit but i always leave that SIDESHOW. In a sence everything is a sideshow. so... I tell everyone I meet about my vlog, myspace, medfilms, livejournal ,and have to EDIT myself as I live my life just for my own self insecurity. But that SelfEditing is no different than Whom I am as a Person on the Planet. note 2 I dont subscribe to all Vlogs nor want to. I do explore. I do take time to comment. I dont necessarily like alot of vlogs but it dosnt mean they should change to my tastes. When I was a kid I didnt like onions, spinach nor kale. Now I love them. Now I dont like some meats. Anyway, whatever my vlog is about is constantly being redefined, reimagined, and readily available to C O M M U N I C A T E. Thursday night in Austin, TX My friends and I Began Hosting Video Screenings. Every Thursday from 7-10pm the owner of the UnderGround cafe provides 2/4free beers per person depending... and we invite as many people as we can through the various internet communities as well as word of mouth. Join US for free Hugs, Highfives, and then afterwards we walk acroos the street to the Dog and Duck Pub for pints, pitchers and conversations. This weeks screenings include: Artists * Abe Freeman * Mark Hensel * Rachael Wellborn * Chris Moyes * Ryan Lauderdale * David Berezin * Robert Melton * Kristin Lucas * Johnny Cisneros * johnjacob + William Sellari * Juan Carlos Gonzalez This week we feature NODE::101 San Antonio in the Previews. http://ia300111.us.archive.org/2/items/MICHEALVERDIintronode101/ MichaelVerdiNODE101Intro2941.mov alright so I've said my PEACE ~juancarlos http://mrmultiple2.blogspot.com From: Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:03:09 -0700 Hey! Not all hippies are smelly!! ;) Peace and Love, - Ted On 10/26/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to admit, I'm curious as to what vlogs you feel kinda weird watching, like you're too much inside someone's life... if a person wants to share, whatever they decide to share, I don't think it should make people feel weird--it should make them feel welcome. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com weird is such a great, but meaningless, word. for example...your videoblog: http
Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
On 10/27/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to see this group get away from A-list and move forth. Letvideoblogging flourish without A-listers blogrolling A-listers, withoutclique-ybehaviour, opening the doors to all producers, developers and collaborators. Better yet, let's not even have an A-list, or any other list except the list of what each of us likes. My list is different than your list or anyone else's, that's fine. Few of us will be come famous or wealthy as a result of our videos, but that's not a huge issue for most of us. Though I'll always be jealous that Ian's audience includes Pete Townshend. grin -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
On 10/26/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.culturalfarming.com/Pineal%20Logic/PL%20movies/I_AM_A-VIDEO_BLOGGER2.mov (i cant find the permlink) This is a video asking why people just talk into the camera in some videoblogs. this comes up every so often. new people come into the fray...and wonder why people arent being more creative or have more structured content. escorial in CA just answeredmy question much better than my words. http://onethousanddreams.blogspot.com/2005/10/why-do-i-videoblog.html Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
I completely agree Jay. I've really enjoyed the personal Vlogs I've been watching. Historians will tell you that a lot of what they know about the past--a lot of what they know about how people lived, is because of things that were written by ordinary people. Yeah they read all the official accounts and the press but they really rely on personal accounts to fill in the blanks of a story. So in this way personal video blogs will serve those purposes in the future. And I don't even think that you'll have to wait 100 years for them to be really interesting. In 20 years they'll be facinating. The most popular thing I think that I've posted was a music video that was made by some obscure band in STL in 1981. It probably wasn't considered to be all that interesting at the time it was made. But almost 25 years later it's interesting because of what it documented about a subculture that very little is known about but was a influence on things that came after it. A lot of personal video blogs will be the same way, no doubt. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.culturalfarming.com/Pineal%20Logic/PL%20movies/I_AM_A- VIDEO_BLOGGER2.mov (i cant find the permlink) This is a video asking why people just talk into the camera in some videoblogs. this comes up every so often. new people come into the fray...and wonder why people arent being more creative or have more structured content. the video is by a guy in Boston who does this site: http://www.culturalfarming.com/ (warning: the media nipple vlog has pictures of nipples eventhough its about media literacy) i belive he's coming from a TV background. i really like this guy's work. ( i forgot his name) he brings attention to the absurd and often harmful images/messages that come through mainstream media. much needed. I think his video deserves a response. first, it always cracks me up when i hear: real videoblogger. though the Videoblogging group has some good insight since many of us have seen it grow from the beginningno one is real or fake. from the get-go, we always avoided pushing any kind of format. we've tried to encourage anyone to do anything. all we've ever asked is that people make a blog with video enclosures. soon many other groups will form...each with their own philosophy. what I realized was that i could record my life. unlike many podcasts and all TV shows where I would seek for a large audience, im bascially making a digital scapbook for myself(in the future) and my friends. i look back a year ago...and see how we were gearing up for Vloggercon...my girlfriend and i had just met...i was living in this little hole in upper manhattan with a couple of roomates who would stay up late at night chainsmaking and bitching about the goverment. my kids will love this. In today's traditional media, there are no personal voices. You have people like Bill Oreilly and Amy Goodman who get to record and distribute their voices...why not ours? remember that blogging is built on MANY small voices i think that the Cultural Farming guy is frustrated because videoblogging is so young. more formatted shows are comingespecially now that the video iPod is being hyped as a delivery device). but i also like the weird personal vlogs that are almost like i shouldnt be watching. like i get to see someone just talk and be. in 100 years, this will be gold because you will see what people were like. while in 100 years, some daily show on technology will be curious pop culture. IMHO Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
I have to admit, I'm curious as to what vlogs you feel kinda weird watching, like you're too much inside someone's life... if a person wants to share, whatever they decide to share, I don't think it should make people feel weird--it should make them feel welcome. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com weird is such a great, but meaningless, word. for example...your videoblog: http://vlog.kitykity.com here i am...allowed to see your intimate family moments. its like im walking into your house and opening up your photo albums. how great is that. it really isnt weird though. Its just a change in how we interact. Richard BF said it best when he said that privacy is dead. http://www.kashum.com/blog/1128569900 (who is probably one of the best videoblog critics around) so its just amazing to actually be able to see the social changes happening. right now, i dont have relationships with people in other countries UNLESS i have met them in person somehow. there are few places for me to talk to people from other countries about our lives or things happening in the world. Many reasons for this: language barriers, we dont talk to people unless they are like us, some cultures might not have the urge to open up. But with VideobloggingI really see a foundation being built. In 10 years, when a large group of people(thousands?) start recording their lives online...youll be able to surf around and share their consciousness. Without sounding like a smelly, fucking hippieI think this is pretty cool. Seeing how someone lives creates empathy. Tis reminds me of a great Daily Show observation: Manhattan voted 87% against Bush. we were also the center of the only US terrorist attack while also having the gayest population on the planet. the election was decided becasue of fear of terrorsim and disaggreement with gay marriage. when you dont know people, you can really hate them. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
Hey! Not all hippies are smelly!! ;) Peace and Love, - TedOn 10/26/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to admit, I'm curious as to what vlogs you feel kinda weird watching, like you're too much inside someone's life... if a person wants to share, whatever they decide to share, I don't think it should make people feel weird--it should make them feel welcome. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com weird is such a great, but meaningless, word. for example...your videoblog: http://vlog.kitykity.com here i am...allowed to see your intimate family moments. its like im walking into your house and opening up your photo albums. how great is that. it really isnt weird though. Its just a change in how we interact. Richard BF said it best when he said that privacy is dead. http://www.kashum.com/blog/1128569900 (who is probably one of the best videoblog critics around) so its just amazing to actually be able to see the social changes happening. right now, i dont have relationships with people in other countries UNLESS i have met them in person somehow. there are few places for me to talk to people from other countries about our lives or things happening in the world. Many reasons for this: language barriers, we dont talk to people unless they are like us, some cultures might not have the urge to open up. But with VideobloggingI really see a foundation being built. In 10 years, when a large group of people(thousands?) start recording their lives online...youll be able to surf around and share their consciousness. Without sounding like a smelly, fucking hippieI think this is pretty cool. Seeing how someone lives creates empathy. Tis reminds me of a great Daily Show observation: Manhattan voted 87% against Bush. we were also the center of the only US terrorist attack while also having the gayest population on the planet. the election was decided becasue of fear of terrorsim and disaggreement with gay marriage. when you dont know people, you can really hate them. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
It runs thick in my blood to Rebel against the shoulds and coulds. Wierd, absurd, experimental, intellectually creative, emotionally destructive documentation, as well as mindboggling retarded/ridiculus PLAY , are the FUNdeMentals of Why I Vlog or do Art in general. Of coarse DRAW THE LINE to Where I can do, say, post what ever the heavenly hell I want, when I want is just part of my arrogant fodder to cross that Barrier. (Kinda like taking a guitar to War instead of a gun. Not that I have but in my own Way choose to do the ArtThang and not Murder.) Whether anyone is watching today, tomarrow or yesterday. I take the future into consideration and all the other Vlogs and VideoArt of the past/future culture pitree dishes into Thought. Moreso today when it's in my POWER to choose what to see, hear, decide my level of involvement. (of coarse there are subconcious levels that I may not be able to control and that's awesome too I'm all for irrational thoughts) Privacy isn't necessarily dead in my opinion I dont believe anything or anyone is watching me all the time. (hyper extreme trailblazing thought) Yet I understand the trail left behind in the various forms so if Privacy is indeed dead... I shrug eh So What? I got nothing to hide, if anything I want to be found. I think it's Astonishing that Jay and Ryanne have met through these sandwiched mediums. Vloging offers that availability to connect, share, collaborate. Wheter it's wierd, boreing, trucks, fish, botony, cats, kids, love, etc Behind every Vlog there are individuals, people, companies and corporations. It's the internet and I see No Hiearchies just like Art. The only gatekeeper is myselves. note1 Livejournal isnt crap, like anything else everywhere else It's what the individual makes it. I tend to make mine inclusive not exclusive. I walk right by heiarchies, sometimes i stay and take alook around maybe strike up a conversation, stand in line abit but i always leave that SIDESHOW. In a sence everything is a sideshow. so... I tell everyone I meet about my vlog, myspace, medfilms, livejournal ,and have to EDIT myself as I live my life just for my own self insecurity. But that SelfEditing is no different than Whom I am as a Person on the Planet. note 2 I dont subscribe to all Vlogs nor want to. I do explore. I do take time to comment. I dont necessarily like alot of vlogs but it dosnt mean they should change to my tastes. When I was a kid I didnt like onions, spinach nor kale. Now I love them. Now I dont like some meats. Anyway, whatever my vlog is about is constantly being redefined, reimagined, and readily available to C O M M U N I C A T E. Thursday night in Austin, TX My friends and I Began Hosting Video Screenings. Every Thursday from 7-10pm the owner of the UnderGround cafe provides 2/4free beers per person depending... and we invite as many people as we can through the various internet communities as well as word of mouth. Join US for free Hugs, Highfives, and then afterwards we walk acroos the street to the Dog and Duck Pub for pints, pitchers and conversations. This weeks screenings include: Artists * Abe Freeman * Mark Hensel * Rachael Wellborn * Chris Moyes * Ryan Lauderdale * David Berezin * Robert Melton * Kristin Lucas * Johnny Cisneros * johnjacob + William Sellari * Juan Carlos Gonzalez This week we feature NODE::101 San Antonio in the Previews. http://ia300111.us.archive.org/2/items/MICHEALVERDIintronode101/MichaelVerdiNODE101Intro2941.mov alright so I've said my PEACE ~juancarlos http://mrmultiple2.blogspot.com From: Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:03:09 -0700 Hey! Not all hippies are smelly!! ;) Peace and Love, - Ted On 10/26/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to admit, I'm curious as to what vlogs you feel kinda weird watching, like you're too much inside someone's life... if a person wants to share, whatever they decide to share, I don't think it should make people feel weird--it should make them feel welcome. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com weird is such a great, but meaningless, word. for example...your videoblog: http://vlog.kitykity.com here i am...allowed to see your intimate family moments. its like im walking into your house and opening up your photo albums. how great is that. it really isnt weird though. Its just a change in how we interact. Richard BF said it best when he said that privacy is dead. http://www.kashum.com/blog/1128569900 (who is probably one of the best videoblog critics around) so its just amazing to actually be able to see the social changes happening. right now, i dont have relationships with people in other countries UNLESS i have met them in person somehow
Re: [videoblogging] Re: why people videoblog
I would love to see this group get away from A-list and move forth. Let videoblogging flourish without A-listers blogrolling A-listers, without clique-y behaviour, opening the doors to all producers, developers and collaborators. I have never met JG but love his spirit. The petrie dish concept is a wonderful thing, make open media, live open media. I like his statement Behind every Vlog there are individuals, people YES! I don't know Rachel, Mark, Abe, Chris, Ryan, David, Robert, Christian, Johnny, and Johnjacob tho I think I'd like to meet them all. JG, please help get their work online for us, help us video bloggers discover these new people and their ideas. Let's make a special effort to make this happen, let's make the community more open, let's let in anyone who wants to develop tools, create content, communicate ideas. Let's not discriminate, let's not be small, let's welcome everyone to attend all functions, with no excuses. Let's make this happen big, let's make an extraordinary effort to not exclude and for us all to be open. Let the people be visible, let the B, C, D and E list be visible, let everyone be equal. And let everyone be a collaborator. Be collaborative, not exclusionary. Make love not war. Kudos to Verdi and everyone who helps noobs, and everyone encourages peeps everywhere have a conversation with all of us. Check out Charles Hope's link to Blip-hosted entry http://tinyurl.com/e3j85 cheers r -- URL: http://r.24x7.com Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively On Oct 26, 2005, at 8:01 PM, juan gonzalez wrote: It runs thick in my blood to Rebel against the shoulds and coulds. Wierd, absurd, experimental, intellectually creative, emotionally destructive documentation, as well as mindboggling retarded/ridiculus PLAY , are the FUNdeMentals of Why I Vlog or do Art in general. Of coarse DRAW THE LINE to Where I can do, say, post what ever the heavenly hell I want, when I want is just part of my arrogant fodder to cross that Barrier. (Kinda like taking a guitar to War instead of a gun. Not that I have but in my own Way choose to do the ArtThang and not Murder.) Whether anyone is watching today, tomarrow or yesterday. I take the future into consideration and all the other Vlogs and VideoArt of the past/future culture pitree dishes into Thought. Moreso today when it's in my POWER to choose what to see, hear, decide my level of involvement. (of coarse there are subconcious levels that I may not be able to control and that's awesome too I'm all for irrational thoughts) ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
