Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
The problem with Veoh is not ideals but execution. We all want to make a living, but they are just a bit too obvious about it. Yes, products, consumption and desire are integral parts of our lives, but to exploit these traits without consent, especially when its conveniently timed with the raising of a 12 million dollar round of investment (from time warner and diesney ilk no less), is bad form. If they've got a decent product, then god speed for them, but what I've seen so far is just a bad excuse for a YouTube wannabe. Make something that rocks and makes me happy and I will be a fan. So far the only reason I use Veoh is to see Steve Garfield's monkey picture. +nathan On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 1:31 am, robert a/k/a r wrote: I was just going through a few links and stumbled across a Veoh interview (from earlier this year) where they talk about editorial and advertising. The quote really jumped out at me, I can't put my finger on exactly why. Here's a quote and below is the link to the full article; Sometimes those recommendations will be videos. But sometimes they will be advertisements. And if Dunning's crazy math works like it is supposed to, you might not even know the difference between the two. We look at advertising as content, says Shapiro. Targetted advertising is potent content. As an example, he shows me a clip of a videoblogger driving around in a Porsche in Germany. It is not an ad, but it might as well be one. What if, suggests Shapiro, there were a Porsche logo in the corner that said more info available. And if you click it, you get several options, such as download a four-minute infomercial or longer, official Porsche driving videos for later viewing, or watch them now, or send an e-mail to yourself with a link to a Porche Website. http://business2.blogs.com/business2blog/2006/02/scoop_veoh_take.html Maybe if I were there at the presentation and had seen their Porsche video I would have appreciated their comments better. I wonder if other aggregators are considering similar strategies. -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com great hosting: http://foo.24x7.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
while i don't disagree with you about the Veoh issue I'd like to point out that there are a lot of these in California trust me, it's hard not to trip over them :) VC often stands for Visionally Challenged I think they get special parking now too Deirdre Straughan wrote: On 4/22/06, nathan.freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would take a really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based on the content present on the site over a brief period of time. They would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world of online video not to have noticed the fuss over Veoh in this group and elsewhere. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
The content had been up there for a while. Josh Kinberg and I noticed it during SXSW (a month before the thing here) and as David noted, he'd seen it 4 months ago. Since nobody here really uses the service there's no telling how long it was up there. They certainly had many of my videos that had dropped from my RSS feed already. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
Deirdre Straughan wrote: So can we please drop this angle of the discussion as silly and irresponsible? You are, after all, making quasi-criminal charges against the executives of Veoh, accusing them of acting to deliberately mislead investors. There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. I wasn't accusing anyone of committing a crime, just questioning taste and tone. Pardon me if it came out a bit harsh. I'm actually a big fan of Veoh's desktop player, social networking, and p2p distribution technology, which I am guessing/hoping where most of their true value is. Regards, Nathan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh article
Thank you and Amen.I totally agree and have said as much.sullOn 4/22/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 4/22/06, nathan.freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with Veoh is not ideals but execution. We all want to make a living, but they are just a bit too obvious about it. Yes, products, consumption and desire are integral parts of our lives, but to exploit these traits without consent, especially when its conveniently timed with the raising of a 12 million dollar round of investment (from time warner and diesney ilk no less), is bad form. Through no personal interest except sheer irritation, I'd like to layto rest this rumor of the convenient timing of Veoh's content hijackvis-a-vis their investment announcement.As I recall it, the hoo-ha over Veoh's hijacking people's content happened about a week before the announcement of the funding. Perhapsthat content had been in there a week or two before anybody in thisgroup noticed. We then had the vehement discussion that everyone knows about, it was even picked up by some non-group bloggers and got somepress.A few days later came the VC announcement.Did the presence of the misappropriated content mislead a VC intoinvesting in Veoh? Several people in this group have implied or baldly stated as much.However, I would be extremely surprised if it were true. It would takea really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based onthe content present on the site over a brief period of time. They would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world ofonline video not to have noticed the fuss over Veoh in this group andelsewhere.Things happen fast in high-tech investment, but not that fast, and these folks are not stupid. You don't dispose of $12 million withoutdue diligence, which takes time, and means a lot more than a glance atVeoh's site.So can we please drop this angle of the discussion as silly and irresponsible? You are, after all, making quasi-criminal chargesagainst the executives of Veoh, accusing them of acting todeliberately mislead investors. There are laws against libel, even onthe Internet. --best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work)Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Veoh article
I was just going through a few links and stumbled across a Veoh interview (from earlier this year) where they talk about editorial and advertising. The quote really jumped out at me, I can't put my finger on exactly why. Here's a quote and below is the link to the full article; Sometimes those recommendations will be videos. But sometimes they will be advertisements. And if Dunning's crazy math works like it is supposed to, you might not even know the difference between the two. We look at advertising as content, says Shapiro. Targetted advertising is potent content. As an example, he shows me a clip of a videoblogger driving around in a Porsche in Germany. It is not an ad, but it might as well be one. What if, suggests Shapiro, there were a Porsche logo in the corner that said more info available. And if you click it, you get several options, such as download a four-minute infomercial or longer, official Porsche driving videos for later viewing, or watch them now, or send an e-mail to yourself with a link to a Porche Website. http://business2.blogs.com/business2blog/2006/02/scoop_veoh_take.html> Maybe if I were there at the presentation and had seen their Porsche video I would have appreciated their comments better. I wonder if other aggregators are considering similar strategies. -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com great hosting: http://foo.24x7.com
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed specifically for them to verify my ownership. iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. joly At 04:41 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote: http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/04/18/controversial_video_hosting_company_veoh_raises_125m.htmlhttp://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/04/18/controversial_video_hosting_company_veoh_raises_125m.html He said Veoh from the beginning had wanted to upload only content from RSS feeds which users had explicitly submitted to Veoh. He said Veoh had required publishers submitting feeds to insert a specific snippet of code verifying they were owners of the feed. However, he said Veoh's process was bugged, and wasn't identifying which content was owned by the submitters and which wasn't. As a result, when outsiders submitted copyrighted content, Veoh ended up uploading it when it shouldn't have. He said he has since nuked all content that hasn't been adequately submitted. rewriting history so soon? -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.comhttp://loadedpun.com -- --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services includingDTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi-- Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that, what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd. Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcoding for transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod. joly On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed specifically for them to verify my ownership. iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi -- --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes. God forbid people speak out against precious Apple.At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh. Christ, the CEO responded! When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?sullOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that, what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod. jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi- WWWhatsup NYChttp://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com---Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Not sure where you've been for the last two weeks but, Veoh had sucked up a zillion RSS feeds and transcoded videos to flash. Then they were hosting them and displaying them on their site with no attribution and under thier own license. Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcoding for transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.Apple does many things wrong but they're certainly not doing what Veoh was doing. If you search for me on the iTunes music store you will see a link to my videoblog (it says website with a little arrow next to it). Also the transcoding happens on your own computer. Apple isn't serving up any of my videos. It's a huge difference.-VerdijolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services includingDTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed specifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi- WWWhatsup NYChttp://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com---Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that, what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod. jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi- WWWhatsup NYChttp://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com---Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.Trust me, I wasn't defending them Josh. This is a good point, one that doesn't get brought up. -josh On 4/20/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops. On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that, what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod. jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com--- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
On 4/20/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which means Veoh got membership sign-ups from people signing up to view preview-only videos that shouldn't have been hacked up. Membership sign-ups are a currency in the Internet. Using non-permitted works like that = very not cool.Especially when that currency (I am sure of it) had something to do with funding. --StephanieOn 4/20/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.I just cannot swallow an argument that puts P2P technology for independent media makers as being less significant than download statistics, especially when that P2P platform is also building a model to compensate media makers... financially and by giving them reach/exposure. sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.-josh On 4/20/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops. On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that, what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod. jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. -Verdi- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com--- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
FLV previews of content is a recent development, prompted by the YouTube envy, no doubt, not entirely thought out before introduction, I'll give you that. I myself would have preferred full flv previews, given the option. But the actual Veoh distro does no transcoding. joly On 4/20/06, Josh Leo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits... You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops. -- --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content. If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics. -josh On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users. It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
Go look at 'my' profile: http://veoh.com/users/steve ;-) On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com - Fighting the good fight http://Rocketboom.com - Correspondent http://hipcast.com (formerly audioblog) - Community Manager YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
Wow, you should shave Steve.On 4/20/06, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go look at 'my' profile: http://veoh.com/users/steve ;-) On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com - Fighting the good fight http://Rocketboom.com - Correspondent http://hipcast.com (formerly audioblog) - Community Manager YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
but now veoh works differently. so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric? sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content. If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics. -josh On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users. It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
hey sull!this is the internet. the metric is the message!(joke)On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but now veoh works differently. so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric? sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content. If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics. -josh On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users. It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
sure seems that way.. ha. thank god for messages like Robert's! What a great reminder to the power of this medium.. that is underused.i'm such a monkey in the middle, ain't i? sull On 4/20/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey sull!this is the internet. the metric is the message!(joke)On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but now veoh works differently. so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric? sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content. If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics. -josh On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users. It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/04/18/controversial_video_hosting_company_veoh_raises_125m.html He said Veoh from the beginning had wanted to upload only content from RSS feeds which users had explicitly submitted to Veoh. He said Veoh had required publishers submitting feeds to insert a specific snippet of code verifying they were owners of the feed. However, he said Veoh's process was bugged, and wasn't identifying which content was owned by the submitters and which wasn't. As a result, when outsiders submitted copyrighted content, Veoh ended up uploading it when it shouldn't have. He said he has since nuked all content that hasn't been adequately submitted.rewriting history so soon?-- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
