[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[greg]

I posted the video also, but I did not have much comment.

The video was part of a three part "series" I posted.  The first video
was Henry Rollins ranting about how "They" are coming for you and your
rights.  Your video was posted to "prove" that Henry actually knew what
he was talking about, and that the thing he was waring about actually
happend to you.   The last video I posted in the same vein was the Josh
Wolf interview from GETV.

Anyway, I too thought that the video spoke for itself, and taken in
conjunction with the other videos I posted in the same entry, I felt
that it spoke for it's self.

If you are interested, you can view the post at...

http://eighteenhundred.blogspot.com/2006_12_14_archive.html


Thanks!

Greg
gregsvideoblog.blogspot.com 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "~ FluxRostrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
>
> You were darned deep in the fray, dude.
>
> Talk about that, will you?
>
> Curious how you felt about your physical position.
>
> Jan
>
> I am somewhat accostumed to being deep in the fray, but it wasn't so
deep when I entered.
>
> It got a little tense and I wanted to leave.
>
> I was waiting my turn to exit when things got tight... was about to
head for the exit again when I saw the cop extend his baton at the
cuffed person.. so I felt obligated to stay but that's when they asked
me to leave, I said I was press, they said I needed to leave anyway, I
agreed and started out the hole.
>
> I've noticed an oddity in the way many people have reposted this. Most
just put a headline and a link, including people I have had a great deal
of on-line & real life contact with... nobody seems to want to say
anything about it. ... seems odd that people who have asked me to give
video activism workshops at national convergences would remain so
silent.
>
> I inquired many people about whether or not I should make this video
and everyone said it was important to not let them get away with their
smashing/stealing camera activites this time, since there was so much
evidence of their actions. This is not an isolated incident. It's a
violation of rights of Journalists. It is a violation of rights any
citizen with a camera.. journalist or not.
>
> solidarity
> ~FluxRostrum
>
> video
> http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
>
> more story
> http://iwitnessvideo.info/blog/4.html
>
>
>
>
> On 12/13/06, ~ FluxRostrum FluxRostrum@ wrote:
> >
> > Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?
> > http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
> >
> > I can vouch for this (unfortunately).
> >
> > I suppose the most effective methods call the least attention to
> > themselves,
> > as they're the least likely to result in illegally seized footage.
Anybody
> > know of a good resource/guide for filming police or protests?
> >
> > Video Activist Network ~ http://www.videoactivism.org/
> > A Guide to Videotaping Police ~
> > http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/09/23193.shtml
> > Witness ~ http://www.witness.org/
> > Cop Watch 101 ~
http://www.fluxview.com/library/how-to/Copwatch101.PDF
> > Cop Watch Video ~
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2298191316209203092
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > Messages in this topic (5)
> >
> > Solidarity,
> > ~FluxRostrum
> >
> > ~
> > N.O. TV
> > http://NOTVcollective.org
> >
> > VLOG~FLUX
> > http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
> > ~~~
> > Syndicate Flux
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
> > ~~~
> > Old School
> > http://Fluxview.com
> > ~~~
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Agency
> > may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They
may do
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[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Steve Watkins]

Well the case of officer Wohl is probably part of the equation:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/9223

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jan / The Faux Press"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do you think that Josh Wolf's witholding his videotape has anything to
> do with this escalation in technique?
> 
> Is confiscating cameras a trend? Feels like a trend to me. How can we
> prove whether or not this is true?
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Faux Press - better than real
> http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Jan / The Faux Press]

Do you think that Josh Wolf's witholding his videotape has anything to
do with this escalation in technique?

Is confiscating cameras a trend? Feels like a trend to me. How can we
prove whether or not this is true?

Jan



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[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Gena]

I posted the video and links to your site on my vlog this morning. I
didn't want to blather on about it, I really want people to see what
happened to you without me editorializing about it. 

It is that kind of video, it doesn't need a set up. Only a fool would
argue that what we see didn't happen.

I'm far from NY and I have been telling non-vlogging folks verbally
about what happened to you. They nod their heads but I don't think it
is real to them unless they see it.

I'm more saddened that there is not an outrage or major stink about
this criminal act by the police. Now, granted after what they have
done in the past six months this may seem like small potatoes but
still have the local papers spilled any ink about this?

Gena

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "~ FluxRostrum"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> You were darned deep in the fray, dude.
> 
> Talk about that, will you?
> 
> Curious how you felt about your physical position.
> 
> Jan
> 
> I am somewhat accostumed to being deep in the fray, but it wasn't so
deep when I entered.
> 
> It got a little tense and I wanted to leave.
> 
> I was waiting my turn to exit when things got tight... was about to
head for the exit again when I saw the cop extend his baton at the
cuffed person.. so I felt obligated to stay but that's when they asked
me to leave, I said I was press, they said I needed to leave anyway, I
agreed and started out the hole.
> 
> I've noticed an oddity in the way many people have reposted this. 
Most just put a headline and a link, including people I have had a
great deal of on-line & real life contact with... nobody seems to want
to say anything about it.  ... seems odd that people who have asked me
to give video activism workshops at national convergences would remain
so silent.
> 
> I inquired many people about whether or not I should make this video
and everyone said it was important to not let them get away with their
smashing/stealing camera activites this time, since there was so much
evidence of their actions.  This is not an isolated incident.  It's a
violation of rights of Journalists.  It is a violation of rights any
citizen with a camera.. journalist or not.
> 
> solidarity
> ~FluxRostrum
> 
> video
> http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
> 
> more story
> http://iwitnessvideo.info/blog/4.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/13/06, ~ FluxRostrum  wrote:
> >
> > Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?
> > http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
> >
> > I can vouch for this (unfortunately).
> >
> > I suppose the most effective methods call the least attention to
> > themselves,
> > as they're the least likely to result in illegally seized footage.
Anybody
> > know of a good resource/guide for filming police or protests?
> >
> > Video Activist Network ~ http://www.videoactivism.org/
> > A Guide to Videotaping Police ~
> > http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/09/23193.shtml
> > Witness ~ http://www.witness.org/
> > Cop Watch 101 ~ http://www.fluxview.com/library/how-to/Copwatch101.PDF
> > Cop Watch Video ~
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2298191316209203092
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > Messages in this topic (5)
> >
> > Solidarity,
> > ~FluxRostrum
> >
> > ~
> > N.O. TV
> > http://NOTVcollective.org
> >
> > VLOG~FLUX
> > http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
> > ~~~
> > Syndicate Flux
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
> > ~~~
> > Old School
> > http://Fluxview.com
> > ~~~
> > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National
Security Agency
> > may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They
may do
> > this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no
recourse nor
> > protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President.
> > ~~~
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Steve Garfield]

That's an interesting comment.

It made me go back and look at how I posted about this.

I wrote:
--
Get That Camera
Video: The War on Journalism.

Police steal vloggers camera.
--

Not much commentary.

I remember having a problem writing a description for this video.  Part 
of the reason was that the video itself was so well done in telling the 
story and explaining what happened that I wanted to let the viewer hear 
the story directly from you.

It's very powerful.

Another reason the text on my post is sparse is that you don't describe 
the contents of your video in your blog post.  A lot of time I like to  
copy and paste some text from to post I'm reblogging to help describe 
it.

On your post you say:
--
"This video is dedicated to Independent Journalists worldwide who've 
paid a price for seeking the truth ... some more than others. ~presente

HOW TO TAKE ACTION

It's not like this is the 1st time ...
CBS 2 Investigates: Videotape Cops At Own Peril

In the last three years, there has been an increase of 25% in civilian 
complaints against the NYPD. In the last two years, there has been an 
increase of 12% in lawsuits filed against the NYPD for false arrest, 
assault, excessive force or other wrongdoing.*"
--

So to sum up, your video told the whole story and I basically wanted to 
link to it so people could watch it themselves.

Thanks
--Steve

On Dec 17, 2006, at 3:26 PM, ~ FluxRostrum wrote:

> I've noticed an oddity in the way many people have reposted this.  
> Most just put a headline and a link, including people I have had a 
> great deal of on-line & real life contact with... nobody seems to want 
> to say anything about it.  ... seems odd that people who have asked me 
> to give video activism workshops at national convergences would remain 
> so silent.

--Steve
-- 
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[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[~ FluxRostrum]

You were darned deep in the fray, dude.

Talk about that, will you?

Curious how you felt about your physical position.

Jan

I am somewhat accostumed to being deep in the fray, but it wasn't so deep when 
I entered.

It got a little tense and I wanted to leave.

I was waiting my turn to exit when things got tight... was about to head for 
the exit again when I saw the cop extend his baton at the cuffed person.. so I 
felt obligated to stay but that's when they asked me to leave, I said I was 
press, they said I needed to leave anyway, I agreed and started out the hole.

I've noticed an oddity in the way many people have reposted this.  Most just 
put a headline and a link, including people I have had a great deal of on-line 
& real life contact with... nobody seems to want to say anything about it.  ... 
seems odd that people who have asked me to give video activism workshops at 
national convergences would remain so silent.

I inquired many people about whether or not I should make this video and 
everyone said it was important to not let them get away with their 
smashing/stealing camera activites this time, since there was so much evidence 
of their actions.  This is not an isolated incident.  It's a violation of 
rights of Journalists.  It is a violation of rights any citizen with a camera.. 
journalist or not.

solidarity
~FluxRostrum

video
http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html

more story
http://iwitnessvideo.info/blog/4.html




On 12/13/06, ~ FluxRostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?
> http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
>
> I can vouch for this (unfortunately).
>
> I suppose the most effective methods call the least attention to
> themselves,
> as they're the least likely to result in illegally seized footage. Anybody
> know of a good resource/guide for filming police or protests?
>
> Video Activist Network ~ http://www.videoactivism.org/
> A Guide to Videotaping Police ~
> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/09/23193.shtml
> Witness ~ http://www.witness.org/
> Cop Watch 101 ~ http://www.fluxview.com/library/how-to/Copwatch101.PDF
> Cop Watch Video ~
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2298191316209203092
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Messages in this topic (5)
>
> Solidarity,
> ~FluxRostrum
>
> ~
> N.O. TV
> http://NOTVcollective.org
>
> VLOG~FLUX
> http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
> ~~~
> Syndicate Flux
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
> ~~~
> Old School
> http://Fluxview.com
> ~~~
> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency
> may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do
> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor
> protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President.
> ~~~

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[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Aldon Hynes]

Very powerful video.  I posted a quick link to it on my blog
http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/2098
and added it to NewsTrust
http://beta.newstrust.net/webx?14@@.f00bdeb

(I would encourage people to check out NewsTrust, a new site where people
can review articles based on their journalistic qualities.)

Aldon

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[David King]

I know it's serious content and a serious subject... but I couldn't help
from chuckling a little when I saw the cops swipe ONE camera, even though
there were at least 20 cameras there. It's just amazing to me that someone
would even bother with taking one, when the others are all filming ... you
taking the one camera... !

Simply amazing.

David

On 12/12/06, Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I'm glad you are ok. I am glad that you are not locked up or have been
> artificially "ventilated".
>
> I keep saying this - y'all need to be extremely discreet when filming
> PD. I don't care what the law says; I don't care what our rights are.
> Rights are no good if you are dead. Yes, get the shot but do not put
> yourself in harm's way.
>
> I could see that you were in compliance with the order but to PD it
> does not matter. They couldn't even see the other cameras, cell phones
> and other recording devices. They focused on you.
>
> Some members of the PD have moved to a position of self-protection and
> defense. They have the color of authority to steal and/or kill. Assume
> that they will be hostile, assume that they will be unhappy with
> documentation.
>
> I don't know but folks please start thinking about this if you are
> going to cover these kinds of events. Backpacks with lens holes. Lower
> quality cameras with external tube like lens. Think of multiple exit
> routes as you slip in and out of view.
>
> Take care and be as safe as you can.
>
> Gena
> http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , "~
> FluxRostrum"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The War on Journalism
> >
> > http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
> >
> > description from I-Witness Video
> > http://iwitnessvideo.info
> >
> > On October 30, 2006 at a demonstration protesting the murder of
> journalist Brad Will in Mexico, members of the NYPD assaulted an
> independent videographer and stole his videocamera.
> >
> > That's right, stole. The filmmaker, FluxRostrum, was not arrested.
> He did not receive a receipt for seized property. He was not even
> directly asked for his camera. Instead, without any warning, he was
> jumped by two police officers, one of whom is an NYPD captain, and
> knocked down onto the asphalt of 39th Street. One police officer was
> succcesful in wrenching the camera out of Flux's hands. As Flux
> crawled around on the ground looking for the eyeglasses which had been
> knocked off his face during the attack, the cop with the camera
> quickly conferred with another officer. Then he ran off to hide the
> camera.
> >
> > When Flux attempted to get his camera back after the demonstration,
> he was threatened with arrest by a Lieutenant at the 17th Precinct.
> His lawyer was told that camera was found "abandoned" at the scene and
> that it had been turned over to the Manhattan District Attorney's
> office to be used as evidence against people arrested at the Mexican
> Consulate demonstration that day.
> >
> > Someone at the 17th Precinct told the D.A. that the camera was found
> "abandoned" on the sidewalk. Now the D.A. is insisting on keeping a
> copy of the stolen videotape to use as evidence.
> >
> > Is this the new normal? Is it legal just because the police say so?
> >
> > If police do not have their own videocameras at events will they
> simply bonk one of us over the head and steal our gear and videotapes?
> What if they decide that they do not like what the videotape shows?
> Will they then destroy it as has happened to so many cameras seized by
> the NYPD over the past couple of years?
> >
> > This story is a little hard to believe, isn't it? Fortunately, you
> do not have to take my word for it. Not to be denied his voice, Flux
> made a videotape about his experience at the hands of NYPD.
> >
> > This is the first blog installment in an ongoing I-Witness Video
> investigation, The War on Cameras.
> >
> > POSTED BY
> > Eileen Clancy
> >
> >
> >
> > Solidarity,
> > ~FluxRostrum
> >
> > ~
> > VLOG~FLUX
> > http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
> > ~~~
> > Syndicate Flux
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
> > ~~~
> > Old School
> > http://Fluxview.com
> > ~~~
> > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security
> Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice.
> They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You
> have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of
> the current President.
> > ~~~
> >
> >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Jan / The Faux Press]

You were darned deep in the fray, dude.

Talk about that, will you?

Curious how you felt about your physical position.

Jan

On 12/13/06, ~ FluxRostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?
> http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
>
> I can vouch for this (unfortunately).
>
> I suppose the most effective methods call the least attention to
> themselves,
> as they're the least likely to result in illegally seized footage. Anybody
> know of a good resource/guide for filming police or protests?
>
> Video Activist Network ~ http://www.videoactivism.org/
> A Guide to Videotaping Police ~
> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/09/23193.shtml
> Witness ~ http://iwitnessvideo.info/
> Cop Watch 101 ~ http://www.fluxview.com/library/how-to/Copwatch101.PDF
> Cop Watch Video ~
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2298191316209203092
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Messages in this topic (5)
>
> Solidarity,
> ~FluxRostrum
>
> ~
> N.O. TV
> http://NOTVcollective.org
>
> VLOG~FLUX
> http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
> ~~~
> Syndicate Flux
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
> ~~~
> Old School
> http://Fluxview.com
> ~~~
> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency
> may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do
> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor
> protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President.
> ~~~
>
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[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[~ FluxRostrum]

Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?
http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html

I can vouch for this (unfortunately).

I suppose the most effective methods call the least attention to themselves,
as they're the least likely to result in illegally seized footage.  Anybody
know of a good resource/guide for filming police or protests?

Video Activist Network ~ http://www.videoactivism.org/
A Guide to Videotaping Police ~ 
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/09/23193.shtml
Witness ~ http://iwitnessvideo.info/
Cop Watch 101 ~ http://www.fluxview.com/library/how-to/Copwatch101.PDF
Cop Watch Video ~ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2298191316209203092


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Solidarity,
~FluxRostrum

~
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Ronen]

On 12/12/06, Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I keep saying this - y'all need to be extremely discreet when filming
> PD. I don't care what the law says; I don't care what our rights are.
>   Some members of the PD have moved to a position of self-protection
> and
> defense.  Assume
> that they will be hostile, assume that they will be unhappy with
> documentation.
>








I can vouch for this (unfortunately).

I suppose the most effective methods call the least attention to themselves,
as they're the least likely to result in illegally seized footage.  Anybody
know of a good resource/guide for filming police or protests?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Gena]

I'm glad you are ok. I am glad that you are not locked up or have been
artificially "ventilated".

I keep saying this - y'all need to be extremely discreet when filming
PD. I don't care what the law says; I don't care what our rights are. 
Rights are no good if you are dead. Yes, get the shot but do not put
yourself in harm's way.

I could see that you were in compliance with the order but to PD it
does not matter. They couldn't even see the other cameras, cell phones
and other recording devices. They focused on you.

Some members of the PD have moved to a position of self-protection and
defense. They have the color of authority to steal and/or kill. Assume
that they will be hostile, assume that they will be unhappy with
documentation. 

I don't know but folks please start thinking about this if you are
going to cover these kinds of events. Backpacks with lens holes. Lower
quality cameras with external tube like lens. Think of multiple exit
routes as you slip in and out of view.

Take care and be as safe as you can.

Gena
http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "~ FluxRostrum"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The War on Journalism
> 
> http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
> 
> description from I-Witness Video
> http://iwitnessvideo.info
> 
> On October 30, 2006 at a demonstration protesting the murder of
journalist Brad Will in Mexico, members of the NYPD assaulted an
independent videographer and stole his videocamera.
> 
> That's right, stole. The filmmaker, FluxRostrum, was not arrested.
He did not receive a receipt for seized property. He was not even
directly asked for his camera. Instead, without any warning, he was
jumped by two police officers, one of whom is an NYPD captain, and
knocked down onto the asphalt of 39th Street. One police officer was
succcesful in wrenching the camera out of Flux's hands. As Flux
crawled around on the ground looking for the eyeglasses which had been
knocked off his face during the attack, the cop with the camera
quickly conferred with another officer. Then he ran off to hide the
camera.
> 
> When Flux attempted to get his camera back after the demonstration,
he was threatened with arrest by a Lieutenant at the 17th Precinct.
His lawyer was told that camera was found "abandoned" at the scene and
that it had been turned over to the Manhattan District Attorney's
office to be used as evidence against people arrested at the Mexican
Consulate demonstration that day.
> 
> Someone at the 17th Precinct told the D.A. that the camera was found
"abandoned" on the sidewalk. Now the D.A. is insisting on keeping a
copy of the stolen videotape to use as evidence.
> 
> Is this the new normal? Is it legal just because the police say so?
> 
> If police do not have their own videocameras at events will they
simply bonk one of us over the head and steal our gear and videotapes?
What if they decide that they do not like what the videotape shows?
Will they then destroy it as has happened to so many cameras seized by
the NYPD over the past couple of years?
> 
> This story is a little hard to believe, isn't it? Fortunately, you
do not have to take my word for it. Not to be denied his voice, Flux
made a videotape about his experience at the hands of NYPD.
> 
> This is the first blog installment in an ongoing I-Witness Video
investigation, The War on Cameras.
> 
> POSTED BY
> Eileen Clancy
> 
> 
> 
> Solidarity,
> ~FluxRostrum
> 
> ~
> VLOG~FLUX
> http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
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> http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
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> http://Fluxview.com
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[videoblogging] Re: I was Attacked by NYPD ~ Wanna Watch?

[Enric]

That is quite bad and stupid.  The illegal police camera seizure would
obviously caught on other cameras.  And action can be taken against
those police officers from that evidence.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "~ FluxRostrum"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The War on Journalism
> 
> http://fluxrostrum.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-on-journalism.html
> 
> description from I-Witness Video
> http://iwitnessvideo.info
> 
> On October 30, 2006 at a demonstration protesting the murder of
journalist Brad Will in Mexico, members of the NYPD assaulted an
independent videographer and stole his videocamera.
> 
> That's right, stole. The filmmaker, FluxRostrum, was not arrested.
He did not receive a receipt for seized property. He was not even
directly asked for his camera. Instead, without any warning, he was
jumped by two police officers, one of whom is an NYPD captain, and
knocked down onto the asphalt of 39th Street. One police officer was
succcesful in wrenching the camera out of Flux's hands. As Flux
crawled around on the ground looking for the eyeglasses which had been
knocked off his face during the attack, the cop with the camera
quickly conferred with another officer. Then he ran off to hide the
camera.
> 
> When Flux attempted to get his camera back after the demonstration,
he was threatened with arrest by a Lieutenant at the 17th Precinct.
His lawyer was told that camera was found "abandoned" at the scene and
that it had been turned over to the Manhattan District Attorney's
office to be used as evidence against people arrested at the Mexican
Consulate demonstration that day.
> 
> Someone at the 17th Precinct told the D.A. that the camera was found
"abandoned" on the sidewalk. Now the D.A. is insisting on keeping a
copy of the stolen videotape to use as evidence.
> 
> Is this the new normal? Is it legal just because the police say so?
> 
> If police do not have their own videocameras at events will they
simply bonk one of us over the head and steal our gear and videotapes?
What if they decide that they do not like what the videotape shows?
Will they then destroy it as has happened to so many cameras seized by
the NYPD over the past couple of years?
> 
> This story is a little hard to believe, isn't it? Fortunately, you
do not have to take my word for it. Not to be denied his voice, Flux
made a videotape about his experience at the hands of NYPD.
> 
> This is the first blog installment in an ongoing I-Witness Video
investigation, The War on Cameras.
> 
> POSTED BY
> Eileen Clancy
> 
> 
> 
> Solidarity,
> ~FluxRostrum
> 
> ~
> VLOG~FLUX
> http://FluxRostrum.BlogSpot.com
> ~~~
> Syndicate Flux
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/VLOGFLUX
> ~~~
> Old School
> http://Fluxview.com
> ~~~
> NOTICE:  Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security
Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice.
They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You
have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of
the current President.
> ~~~
> 
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