[videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Kitka
If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,
then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.

I'm surprised you have that much footage!  When I film Kitkast, I end
up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10 minutes
long!  I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you trim the footage down in Premiere and delete the unused
clips, you
 aren't actually deleting the footage.  Premiere is still using the
entire
 piece of video footage, just displaying the parts that you have
decided to
 keep.
 
 I don't think there's a way to delete the unused portion unless you
go ahead
 and render what you have now into a new file.  Then you can delete
the old
 footage, and bring the new file back into Premiere.  Just render it at
 full-quality so you don't compress it twice.
 
 AQ
 
 On 3/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Gang,
 
  I'm editing down footage for my first vlog ever, and I'm using Adope
  Premiere Elements to do it.  So far, I'm pretty impressed with it.
 
  But...I can't seem to do one thing that should be really simple. 
Dumping
  50 mins of footage onto my hard drive has exhausted the free space
I have
  available, and I still have another 30 minutes of footage to dump.
 Now,
  I've gone and edited down that first 50 to the 3:30 that I really
want to
  keep.  A bunch of clips got cleared outright, and several others
have been
 
  trimmed down to only a few seconds.
 
  What I'd like to do is clear out everything I'm not using so that
I can
  make room for more footage.  The problem is...I can't seem to find
a way
  to tell Premiere If I've cleared it from the clip listing, and if
I've
  trimmed it and put the trimmed stuff on the timeline, delete it.
 It's
  making it very hard for me to finish this up because the Premiere
capture
  tool says I still only have enough space on my hard drive for about 9
  minutes.
 
  Any help would be appreciated, since I couldn't see anything in
Premiere's
 
  documentation to explain how to do this.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread wlight
If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,
then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.

That's not a bad idea.  I can turn the .avi back into individual clips, 
then, using the split tool, right?

I'm surprised you have that much footage!  When I film Kitkast, I end
up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10 minutes
long!  I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...

This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft. Lauderdale.  We 
were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot.  Besides 
that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of people 
so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that meant making 
a lot of throwaway footage.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Lisa Ours MA PLPC
This is just a humble suggestion from the peanut gallery... but:

When I capture my video I do a bit of Mini-editing during capture.  I tend 
to Pre-view the footage I've taped and then rewind and Stop capture on 
portions that are either obvious bad shots or not central to the plot line 
of my end product.  That way I automatically cut some space and time off of 
the production before I even begin my editing process.

Perhaps that could help you as well seeing as how you are dealing with 
limited drive space.

Cheers!
Lisa


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Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:03:14 GMT

 If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,
then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.

That's not a bad idea.  I can turn the .avi back into individual clips,
then, using the split tool, right?

 I'm surprised you have that much footage!  When I film Kitkast, I end
up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10 minutes
long!  I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...

This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft. Lauderdale.  We
were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot.  Besides
that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of people
so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that meant making
a lot of throwaway footage.

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[videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Kitka
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,
 then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
 the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
 footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.
 
 That's not a bad idea.  I can turn the .avi back into individual clips, 
 then, using the split tool, right?
 

I don't know about a split tool, I would imagine you'll have to use
the razor.  So, if you're unsure about the length of a particular
segment, keep it long because you can always use the razor later to
split and shorten.  (Who knows, maybe the split tool is the razor I'm
thinking about...)

 This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft.
Lauderdale.  We 
 were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot. 
Besides 
 that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of
people 
 so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that meant
making 
 a lot of throwaway footage.

It's all clear to me now... I look forward to seeing what you come up
with.  

Let me know if you need anymore help.

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Adam Quirk



Also, if you capture using Windows Movie Maker you can compress it as you capture, resulting in a much smaller raw file. Quality suffers, but if you're just using it for videoblogging at 320x240 or so, you won't see much of a difference. Capture it at 
1.5mbps or so.On 3/15/06, Lisa Ours MA PLPC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is just a humble suggestion from the peanut gallery... but:When I capture my video I do a bit of Mini-editing during capture.I tendto Pre-view the footage I've taped and then rewind and Stop capture on
portions that are either obvious bad shots or not central to the plot lineof my end product.That way I automatically cut some space and time off ofthe production before I even begin my editing process.
Perhaps that could help you as well seeing as how you are dealing withlimited drive space.Cheers!LisaFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.comTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:03:14 GMT If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it'sthe way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.That's not a bad idea.I can turn the .avi back into individual clips,then, using the split tool, right? I'm surprised you have that much footage! When I film Kitkast, I end
up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10 minuteslong! I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft. Lauderdale.We
were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot.Besidesthat, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of peopleso we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that meant making
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[videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread David Howell
If I were you...first, I would buy another drive. You are going to end
up needing it in the long run anyways.

Now...that aside...

If you are that low on drive space, when you capture your video,
rather than capturing everything, capture as you go. What I mean is
that you should watch your video and mark the in and out times that
you want to capture. That way you only have what you want on your hard
drive.

Not sure if Elements allows you to batch capture or not but that may
be a way to go as well.

David
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,
 then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
 the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
 footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.
 
 That's not a bad idea.  I can turn the .avi back into individual clips, 
 then, using the split tool, right?
 
 I'm surprised you have that much footage!  When I film Kitkast, I end
 up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10 minutes
 long!  I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...
 
 This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft.
Lauderdale.  We 
 were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot. 
Besides 
 that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of
people 
 so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that meant
making 
 a lot of throwaway footage.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Kitka
The peanut gallery's right (aka. Lisa)... if you have this much
footage again in the future, I would follow her advice.

For now, though, if you want to preserve what you've done, I think
.avi's the way to go.

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Ours MA PLPC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is just a humble suggestion from the peanut gallery... but:
 
 When I capture my video I do a bit of Mini-editing during capture.
 I tend 
 to Pre-view the footage I've taped and then rewind and Stop
capture on 
 portions that are either obvious bad shots or not central to the
plot line 
 of my end product.  That way I automatically cut some space and time
off of 
 the production before I even begin my editing process.
 
 Perhaps that could help you as well seeing as how you are dealing with 
 limited drive space.
 
 Cheers!
 Lisa
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?
 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:03:14 GMT
 
  If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to .avi,
 then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
 the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
 footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.
 
 That's not a bad idea.  I can turn the .avi back into individual clips,
 then, using the split tool, right?
 
  I'm surprised you have that much footage!  When I film Kitkast, I end
 up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10 minutes
 long!  I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...
 
 This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft.
Lauderdale.  We
 were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot. 
Besides
 that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of
people
 so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that meant
making
 a lot of throwaway footage.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread wlight
 This is just a humble suggestion from the peanut gallery... but:
 
 When I capture my video I do a bit of Mini-editing during capture.  I 
tend 
 to Pre-view the footage I've taped and then rewind and Stop capture on 
 portions that are either obvious bad shots or not central to the plot 
line 
 of my end product.  That way I automatically cut some space and time off 
of 
 the production before I even begin my editing process.

This is what I am likely to do with footage from this point forward, 
especially if I shoot another festival.  At the time, I really wasn't 
thinking about it, especially since I hadn't yet felt a visual story 
emerging.  Now that I've taken 50 minutes and reduced it down to 3:30, I 
have a more clear palette to work with.

Honing the craft sure is an...interesting...process!

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[videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Kitka
*GAH* *CHOKE* *BLEGH*

Sorry, not a fan of Windows Movie Maker... It's okay for small clips
(as Adam's suggesting), but never use it to compress a full 10-minute
show!!!  The first few Kitkast episodes were exported to .wmv via WMM
and the audio would completely unsynchronize from the video after the
first 4 minutes.  Only use WMM for short clips and short videoblogs.

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, if you capture using Windows Movie Maker you can compress it
as you
 capture, resulting in a much smaller raw file.  Quality suffers, but if
 you're just using it for videoblogging at 320x240 or so, you won't
see much
 of a difference.  Capture it at 1.5mbps or so.
 
 On 3/15/06, Lisa Ours MA PLPC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is just a humble suggestion from the peanut gallery... but:
 
  When I capture my video I do a bit of Mini-editing during
capture.  I
  tend
  to Pre-view the footage I've taped and then rewind and Stop
capture on
  portions that are either obvious bad shots or not central to the
plot line
  of my end product.  That way I automatically cut some space and
time off
  of
  the production before I even begin my editing process.
 
  Perhaps that could help you as well seeing as how you are dealing with
  limited drive space.
 
  Cheers!
  Lisa
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?
  Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:03:14 GMT
  
   If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to
.avi,
  then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
  the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
  footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.
  
  That's not a bad idea.  I can turn the .avi back into individual
clips,
  then, using the split tool, right?
  
   I'm surprised you have that much footage! When I film Kitkast,
I end
  up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10
minutes
  long! I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...
  
  This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft.
  Lauderdale.  We
  were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot. 
Besides
  that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of
  people
  so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that
meant making
  a lot of throwaway footage.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread wlight
If I were you...first, I would buy another drive. You are going to end 
up needing it in the long run anyways.

Normally, I would.  I'm a computer engineer by trade, so this sort of 
thing is not foreign to me.

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this also means buying another 
computer.  I haven't tried IEEE 1394 external drives, but USB external 
drives are too slow to be useful in this situation, and my only 
workstation with any real horsepower is a laptop.

My plan, in the long run, is to buy a media center PC to hook up to my 
HDTV, soup up the drives on it, and use that as my video workstation in 
addition to other things.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Adam Quirk



I've wondered why some of my longer clips sitting around from 2004 have out-of-synch audio. I was using WMM exclusively back then. That explains it. It does work well for short clips. Also, it can use USB input to capture video, where Premiere cannot. 
On 3/15/06, Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




*GAH* *CHOKE* *BLEGH*

Sorry, not a fan of Windows Movie Maker... It's okay for small clips
(as Adam's suggesting), but never use it to compress a full 10-minute
show!!! The first few Kitkast episodes were exported to .wmv via WMM
and the audio would completely unsynchronize from the video after the
first 4 minutes. Only use WMM for short clips and short videoblogs.

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, if you capture using Windows Movie Maker you can compress it
as you
 capture, resulting in a much smaller raw file. Quality suffers, but if
 you're just using it for videoblogging at 320x240 or so, you won't
see much
 of a difference. Capture it at 1.5mbps or so.
 
 On 3/15/06, Lisa Ours MA PLPC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is just a humble suggestion from the peanut gallery... but:
 
  When I capture my video I do a bit of Mini-editing during
capture. I
  tend
  to Pre-view the footage I've taped and then rewind and Stop
capture on
  portions that are either obvious bad shots or not central to the
plot line
  of my end product. That way I automatically cut some space and
time off
  of
  the production before I even begin my editing process.
 
  Perhaps that could help you as well seeing as how you are dealing with
  limited drive space.
 
  Cheers!
  Lisa
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?
  Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:03:14 GMT
  
   If I were in your situation, I would Export Movie (project) to
.avi,
  then once I check to see that the .avi is working properly and it's
  the way I want it... I would delete all the clips (your 50 minutes of
  footage) and start a new project using the .avi file you just made.
  
  That's not a bad idea. I can turn the .avi back into individual
clips,
  then, using the split tool, right?
  
   I'm surprised you have that much footage! When I film Kitkast,
I end
  up with about 50 minutes of footage as well, but my show is 10
minutes
  long! I sure hope you're not recording in between takes...
  
  This was on-site taping of the a gay pride festival in Ft.
  Lauderdale. We
  were on site for a good 6-7 hours and there was a lot to shoot. 
Besides
  that, we wanted to make sure we had good footage of large crowds of
  people
  so we could edit in a feeling of bigness, and for me, that
meant making
  a lot of throwaway footage.
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Kitka
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I were you...first, I would buy another drive. You are going to
end 
 up needing it in the long run anyways.
 
 Normally, I would.  I'm a computer engineer by trade, so this sort of 
 thing is not foreign to me.
 
 Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this also means buying another 
 computer.  I haven't tried IEEE 1394 external drives, but USB external 
 drives are too slow to be useful in this situation, and my only 
 workstation with any real horsepower is a laptop.
 

I purchased an external hard drive, but I only need it for old
episodes that I filmed on my regular digital camera.  Now that I have
a DV Cam, I can just store the tapes... same with you, if you have a
DV Cam, don't worry about a hard drive... you can always burn your
AVIs to DVD anyways.

 My plan, in the long run, is to buy a media center PC to hook up
to my 
 HDTV, soup up the drives on it, and use that as my video workstation in 
 addition to other things.
 

This man has good priorities... can I be your roomate?

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread wlight
This man has good priorities... can I be your roomate?

You and my fiancee would have to hash that one out.  If you like interior 
decor and keeping a clean kitchen, she'd probably love it. ;)

Of course, you and the cats would have to fight over sleeping space on the 
futon. ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?

2006-03-15 Thread Lisa Ours MA PLPC
I learned almost imediately upon doing my first vlog that the Vlog-Lords 
neglected to tell us that Hell does indeed exist and it's located directly 
within the Editing Process  ;-}  Vlogging isn't free... Editing is the 
price we pay.

VLOG ON!
Lisa


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Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Premiere Confusion...HELP?
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:27:19 GMT


Honing the craft sure is an...interesting...process!

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