[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-10 Thread missbhavens1969
My feed actually isn't sitting there unclaimed...the videos of mine that I 
found in Veohville 
were culled from other people's unclaimed feeds. They aggreed to remove them 
individually 
via their permalinks (they were gone in a day). I have no idea how it can be 
prevented from 
happening again...am I supposed to check Veoh regularly and have them removed 
each time? 
That's kind of annoying.

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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-10 Thread David Howell
I'm doing that. Yes, it is annoying.

I dont trust that they didnt know what they were doing and I dont
trust that they wont do it again when the stink has cleared.

David
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...am I supposed to check Veoh regularly and have them removed each
time? 
 That's kind of annoying.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-10 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux



Hello,If you had control of your web server you could check the referrer url, and if it came from Veoh, then just block it.(I've heard it's pretty easy to do with Apache.)See ya
On 4/10/06, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My feed actually isn't sitting there unclaimed...the videos of mine that I found in Veohvillewere culled from other people's unclaimed feeds. They aggreed to remove them individuallyvia their permalinks (they were gone in a day). I have no idea how it can be prevented from
happening again...am I supposed to check Veoh regularly and have them removed each time?That's kind of annoying.Bekah--http://missbhavens.blogspot.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
 Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not claimed... David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-10 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:33:19 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you had control of your web server you could check the referrer url,
 and if it came from Veoh, then just block it.

 (I've heard it's pretty easy to do with Apache.)

And it's even for the spider not to send a referrer header at all. Even in  
my consumer level webbrowser (Opera) there's a keyboard shortcut for  
disabling sending referrer headers. Blocking based on referrer headers  
gives only false security and only hits those who don't know better.

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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread Enric
I have two feeds, Cirne (http://www.cirne.com/vlog) and Tech Alley
(http://techalley.cirne.com).  I have claimed Cirne.  I asked them to
remove Tech Alley, which they did.  Simple.

  -- Enric

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wrote:

 My simple question...
 
 There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
 Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not claimed
 your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?
 
 Your answer may be more complicated than my question however I am
 curious to hear your responses.
 
 Thanks
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread David Howell
My understanding is all it takes is an email to them to have yourself
removed. That takes all but 2 minutes. So...why havent you done that?

Yes. I agree that you shouldnt have to.

David
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randy Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 my answer is this i just havent had the time yet,
 but let me ask you something
 why shuld i have to op out of something ive never joined?
 
 let me ask this by have my shit on his site does that make my stuff
on blip 
 less valuable? will blip lose money becuse they are not my only
sorce of 
 vidos on thie web??
 
 does the money blip was going to give us when they start doing
comershals 
 become less becuse they are not our only sorce of video hosting?
 
 there ive just showed every one how we lost out monatraly becuse of veoh
 
 randy
 
 
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 Subject: [videoblogging] Simple Question
 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:20:59 -
 
 My simple question...
 
 There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
 Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not claimed
 your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?
 
 Your answer may be more complicated than my question however I am
 curious to hear your responses.
 
 Thanks
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread David Howell
Well...actually Eric. My question was to those with feeds there that
are still unclaimed. With all the hoopla that happened yesterday, I am
curious why there are still unclaimed feeds.

Thanks

David
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have two feeds, Cirne (http://www.cirne.com/vlog) and Tech Alley
 (http://techalley.cirne.com).  I have claimed Cirne.  I asked them to
 remove Tech Alley, which they did.  Simple.
 
   -- Enric
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofdavid@
 wrote:
 
  My simple question...
  
  There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
  Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not claimed
  your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?
  
  Your answer may be more complicated than my question however I am
  curious to hear your responses.
  
  Thanks
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread David Howell
Well...I dont really see what they did as a problem. I am pretty sure
that their spidering or non-spidering does exactly what it was
intended to do and is working quite well. I dont see it as a renegade
process that's gone HAL on everyone. That's another discussion though.

Thanks for your response.

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 well I guess I havent taken any action yet because I for one want to
give
 them a chance to fix the problem.
 
 As for wha VEOH's done in the past ... there's been a few full
appologies,
 and a promise to make it right.  I'm not sure what more we could
possibly
 ask for.
 
 I'm not going to 'claim' it because I think that's crazy ... my
name, email,
 url, etc are in the feed ... if thats not sufficient, they've bigger
 problems than they are likely going to be able to fix.   I'll give
them some
 time to work that out and see if they can get me the attribution /
 link-throughs, etc.  if they cant do that then i'll take action to
fix it
 myself. :-P
 
 - Dave
 
 
 On 4/9/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My simple question...
 
  There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
  Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not claimed
  your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?
 
  Your answer may be more complicated than my question however I am
  curious to hear your responses.
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread Michael Sullivan



reminder... (not directed to anyone in particular)

remember RO? he put up videoblogging-universe.com and a few cool features for vloggers.
this is spidering and re-hosting 'previews' transcoded to flv or swf or mp4 (depends). 
this is also how it is done right! 

but how does this play into the part of the debate that no service should be re-hosting and transcoding without opt-in?
everyone loves vb-universe, right?

other have made the biggest issue to be about spidering feeds. 
but mefeedia spiders feeds.

everyone loves mefeedia, right?

both provide attribution by linking back to the vlog permalinks which is why they are acceptable and respected.

anyway. the debates here are swirly. so, i am just trying to put things in perspective. 

Josh Leo also once made mention of a service that annoyed him because they had his feed in their database.

http://www.loomia.com/media/feed?cp=/792394

But they give proper attribution. so that's alright. But Josh didnt
add it it was either spidered or somone else added it.
So then you need to claim it or request to remove it etc... That can be annoying (which is why vlogdir doesnt work that way).
But let's also remember the importance of spreading the media. Let's also remember how vlogging can be something more important that your freakn stats and subscriber count. Let's also remember how the creations you put out there can inspire others to do the same.
Let's not get too hung up on self-branding and all that jazz.done.sullOn 4/9/06, David Howell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well...I dont really see what they did as a problem. I am pretty sure
that their spidering or non-spidering does exactly what it wasintended to do and is working quite well. I dont see it as a renegadeprocess that's gone HAL on everyone. That's another discussion though.
Thanks for your response.Davidhttp://www.davidhowellstudios.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: well I guess I havent taken any action yet because I for one want togive them a chance to fix the problem. As for wha VEOH's done in the past ... there's been a few full
appologies, and a promise to make it right.I'm not sure what more we couldpossibly ask for. I'm not going to 'claim' it because I think that's crazy ... myname, email, url, etc are in the feed ... if thats not sufficient, they've bigger
 problems than they are likely going to be able to fix. I'll givethem some time to work that out and see if they can get me the attribution / link-throughs, etc.if they cant do that then i'll take action to
fix it myself. :-P - Dave On 4/9/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   My simple question...   There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
  Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not claimed  your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?   Your answer may be more complicated than my question however I am
  curious to hear your responses.   Thanks   David  http://www.davidhowellstudios.com 
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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread David Howell
Vlogdir hates me. I think you deleted my account or something.

Damn you...

;)

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(which is why vlogdir doesnt work that way).

 
 sull
 
 
 On 4/9/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well...I dont really see what they did as a problem. I am pretty sure
  that their spidering or non-spidering does exactly what it was
  intended to do and is working quite well. I dont see it as a renegade
  process that's gone HAL on everyone. That's another discussion though.
 
  Thanks for your response.
 
  David
  http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@
  wrote:
  
   well I guess I havent taken any action yet because I for one want to
  give
   them a chance to fix the problem.
  
   As for wha VEOH's done in the past ... there's been a few full
  appologies,
   and a promise to make it right.  I'm not sure what more we could
  possibly
   ask for.
  
   I'm not going to 'claim' it because I think that's crazy ... my
  name, email,
   url, etc are in the feed ... if thats not sufficient, they've bigger
   problems than they are likely going to be able to fix.   I'll give
  them some
   time to work that out and see if they can get me the attribution /
   link-throughs, etc.  if they cant do that then i'll take action to
  fix it
   myself. :-P
  
   - Dave
  
  
   On 4/9/06, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote:
   
My simple question...
   
There are multitudes of people from this group with work at VEOH.
Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not
claimed
your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them removed?
   
Your answer may be more complicated than my question however I am
curious to hear your responses.
   
Thanks
   
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[videoblogging] Re: Simple Question

2006-04-09 Thread David Howell
Got it.

So like...now I gotta give you flowers now?

*chuckle*

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 searched for 'tao'.
 returned this:
 http://vlogdir.com/permalink/822
 
 On 4/9/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Vlogdir hates me. I think you deleted my account or something.
 
  Damn you...
 
  ;)
 
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  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
  sulleleven@ wrote:
  (which is why vlogdir doesnt work that way).
 
  
   sull
  
  
   On 4/9/06, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote:
   
Well...I dont really see what they did as a problem. I am
pretty sure
that their spidering or non-spidering does exactly what it was
intended to do and is working quite well. I dont see it as a
renegade
process that's gone HAL on everyone. That's another discussion
though.
   
Thanks for your response.
   
David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@
wrote:

 well I guess I havent taken any action yet because I for one
want to
give
 them a chance to fix the problem.

 As for wha VEOH's done in the past ... there's been a few full
appologies,
 and a promise to make it right.  I'm not sure what more we could
possibly
 ask for.

 I'm not going to 'claim' it because I think that's crazy ... my
name, email,
 url, etc are in the feed ... if thats not sufficient,
they've bigger
 problems than they are likely going to be able to fix.  
I'll give
them some
 time to work that out and see if they can get me the
attribution /
 link-throughs, etc.  if they cant do that then i'll take
action to
fix it
 myself. :-P

 - Dave


 On 4/9/06, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote:
 
  My simple question...
 
  There are multitudes of people from this group with work
at VEOH.
  Those with Unclaimed RSS on VEOH's site, why have you not
  claimed
  your feed/videos/whatever and/or not asked to have them
removed?
 
  Your answer may be more complicated than my question
however I am
  curious to hear your responses.
 
  Thanks
 
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