RE: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-14 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 13/9/05 Jake Ludington mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] 
Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows that:
They do, but the default behavior of Internet Explorer is to launch a new
browser window with the QT file when target=quicktime is used.

target=quicktime is the wrong one (if it isn't a typo), it is 
target=quicktimeplayer
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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Kunga
OK I just added object and /object tags outside the embed / 
embed tags. I'm relieved to know I'm ok with the jpgs and the QT  
encodes. I did tell my consultant that I thought most new PCs shipped  
with QuickTime pre-installed. And yes the embed includes the redirect  
code to get the plug-in if it is not installed.

Did that fix the white box on the Dedman post?
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taylor:
 A consultant friend of mine came in this morning saying that he can't
 see any of my images on any of my posts now on a PC at a coffee
 house. Can anyone confirm this please as I do not have a PC setup to
 test? Is that because they are jpgs and not Poster Movies? Can
 everyone see the QT Poster Movie of the Sony 4k projector but not the
 rest below?

 On Sep 12, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Jake Ludington wrote:

 On your post titled: 36MB-19.5min- Former CNN vet, Jay Dedman, On  
 Vlogging -
 2004 Classic

 I'm seeing a big white box where I assume your image is supposed to  
 exist.
 It's possibly because you don't have an object statement around the
 embed statement.

 Taylor:
 What do you all think is the most compatible way to post for both Mac
 and Windows? Do you think opening in QuickTime Player a bad idea
 because many Windows PCs are not set up with QuickTime? Or does our
 universe of audience members know to have QuickTime for Windows
 installed? Just wondering how many more times I will have to redo my
 site before I get the formula right...

 On Sep 12, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Jake Ludington wrote:

 JPGs should be compatible with anything. QuickTime movies should be
 reasonably compatible with many users as long as you are embedding  
 the video
 properly. Most of those millions of iTunes downloads are Windows  
 users and
 most OEM machines ship with QuickTime. That's not to say there  
 aren't some
 people who don't have QT, but if you are embedding the player, they  
 should
 get a message redirecting them to the plugin download.

 Jake Ludington






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RE: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Jake Ludington
 Did that fix the white box on the Dedman post?

Also, keep in mind that setting target=quicktime launches a new browser
window for Windows users (not the desktop QT player). If you use
target=myself it will play in the same window as your jpg image.

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Kunga
Thank you. But I don't want it to work that way. I want it to open in  
QuickTime Player. Not in a new browser window.
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On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Jake Ludington wrote:

 OK I just added object and /object tags outside the embed /
 embed tags. I'm relieved to know I'm ok with the jpgs and the QT
 encodes. I did tell my consultant that I thought most new PCs shipped
 with QuickTime pre-installed. And yes the embed includes the redirect
 code to get the plug-in if it is not installed.

 Did that fix the white box on the Dedman post?


 Nope. You're still missing the object definition from the object,  
 as well as
 any param configuration you want for the file. Refer to the  
 example code I
 sent you offlist. Here's a sample of your video that functions for  
 Windows
 users:

 http://www.mediablab.com/qt/embed.html

 Jake Ludington





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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Kunga
So Windows users don't have a player with their QuickTime?
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On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:50 PM, Jake Ludington wrote:

 Also, keep in mind that setting target=quicktime launches a new  
 browser
 window for Windows users (not the desktop QT player). If you use
 target=myself it will play in the same window as your jpg image.






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RE: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Jake Ludington
 So Windows users don't have a player with their QuickTime?

They do, but the default behavior of Internet Explorer is to launch a new
browser window with the QT file when target=quicktime is used.

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Jake Ludington wrote:
So Windows users don't have a player with their QuickTime?
 
 
 They do, but the default behavior of Internet Explorer is to launch a new
 browser window with the QT file when target=quicktime is used.
 

That's what happened on my Mac running Firefox. I was expecting it to 
open in QuickTime Player, but it just opened in a new browser window 
(tab) instead.

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Sullivan
it's supposed to be target=quicktimeplayer
not target=quicktime

goto apple.com or google for more help on proper quicktime parameters

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RE: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Jake Ludington
 
  So Windows users don't have a player with their QuickTime?
 
 They do, but the default behavior of Internet Explorer is to launch a new
 browser window with the QT file when target=quicktime is used.

And as I apologized to Taylor offlist, my coffee hadn't kicked in yet. :) 

The correct way to get the QT application to launch is using
target=quicktimeplayer which he had in his code and I inadvertently
shortened to quicktime.

So in a more correct summary of the situation, to get IE to display the JPG
image correctly, you need to use the object tag:

object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; height=240
width=320

And for his particular case, you need the following param entries to make
IE work:

param name=src
value=http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2399/1362/320/JayDedman2004.jpg; 
param name=href
value=http://ia300130.us.archive.org/3/items/jayin2004onvloggingbmov/jayin2
004onvloggingb.mov 
param name=target value=quicktimeplayer
param name=autoplay value=false
param name=type value=video/quicktime height=240 width=320

Firefox seems to work without any of that.

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Kunga
And the mystery continues. On my FireFox Mac they all run in QT  
Player. I am on Tiger 10.4.2 and QT 7.0.2

What version os and QT Pete?
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On Sep 13, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:

 That's what happened on my Mac running Firefox. I was expecting it to
 open in QuickTime Player, but it just opened in a new browser window
 (tab) instead.

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Kunga
All my posts are target=quicktimeplayer

And they all play in QT Player perfectly. I don't get it.
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On Sep 13, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:

 it's supposed to be target=quicktimeplayer
 not target=quicktime

 goto apple.com or google for more help on proper quicktime parameters

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-13 Thread Kunga
I seem to be in some kind of massive hold for this list now. I don't  
know if I am on manual approval or what. I can't post anything  
without a multiple hour delays b4 my posts arrive on the list. Just  
wanted to thank you for your persistent help. I find this extra code  
causes problems with Safari And Firefox for Mac. So I guess I am  
going to have to ask PC users to http://getfirefox.com
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 Taylor Wrote:
 So Windows users don't have a player with their QuickTime?

 On Sep 13, 2005 before 9:42 AM, Jake Ludington wrote:
 They do, but the default behavior of Internet Explorer is to  
 launch a new
 browser window with the QT file when target=quicktime is used.

On Sep 13, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Jake Ludington wrote:

 And as I apologized to Taylor offlist, my coffee hadn't kicked in  
 yet. :)

 The correct way to get the QT application to launch is using
 target=quicktimeplayer which he had in his code and I inadvertently
 shortened to quicktime.

 So in a more correct summary of the situation, to get IE to display  
 the JPG
 image correctly, you need to use the object tag:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; height=240
 width=320

 And for his particular case, you need the following param entries  
 to make
 IE work:

 param name=src
 value=http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2399/1362/320/ 
 JayDedman2004.jpg
 param name=href
 value=http://ia300130.us.archive.org/3/items/ 
 jayin2004onvloggingbmov/jayin2
 004onvloggingb.mov
 param name=target value=quicktimeplayer
 param name=autoplay value=false
 param name=type value=video/quicktime height=240 width=320

 Firefox seems to work without any of that.

 Jake Ludington

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Re: [videoblogging] Poster Movie vs. jpg Visibility-Windows Compatible QuickTime Movies

2005-09-12 Thread Michael Sullivan



in order to see the embedded QT in both IE and Mozilla (firefox), you
need to have embed and object tags. You only are using the embed
tag. On 9/12/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Copied from an off topic subject field and turned into a new threadwith On Topic Subject:Regarding my  http://FutureMedia.org  siteI worked this weekend to make all my posts open in QuickTime Player
instead of a new browser window. Nothing dowloads in advance of aclick now so the page loads very fast. There is a poster movie of theSony 4k Projector on top as Enric recommended and the rest are jpgs -not yet poster movies. While I could see the jpg that I had there,
Sometimes, inconsistently, I cannot see the Poster movie in Safari onMac 10.4.2 QT 7.0.2, but I can in FireFox 1.5 beta 1. Perplexed...Most of the movies start fast in the QuickTime Player just after the
downloads begin but not the Sony 4k due to bug in 3ivx dual pass10.3.9-QT 6.5.2 fast start encode. It starts after the 54 mb downloadcompletes. sigh...BUT...A consultant friend of mine came in this morning saying that he can't
see any of my images on any of my posts now on a PC at a coffeehouse. Can anyone confirm this please as I do not have a PC setup totest? Is that because they are jpgs and not Poster Movies? Caneveryone see the QT Poster Movie of the Sony 4k projector but not the
rest below?What do you all think is the most compatible way to post for both Macand Windows? Do you think opening in QuickTime Player a bad ideabecause many Windows PCs are not set up with QuickTime? Or does our
universe of audience members know to have QuickTime for Windowsinstalled? Just wondering how many more times I will have to redo mysite before I get the formula right...Thank you all for your assistance.
--Taylor BarcroftNew Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Video PodcasterSanta Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon ValleyURL http://FutureMedia.orgRSS 
http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMediaiTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87On Sep 11, 2005 at 10:27 AM Enric wrote:Yes, I have quicktime installed on IE6 and have viewed quicktime
movies on that browser.It still has the same problem.I took your page and modified it with a 1 frame quicktime movie andthen it came up fine on IE6.Have a look at Creating Poster Frames,
http://www.mesquiteisd.org/imovie/how2postermovie.html .It saysthere:Once you create the image that will serve as your posterframe you need make sure that it is saved in qt format and ends
with .mov:),Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No the /embed tag is there but the no embed link set was missing
 which I added now. Does that fix the IE 6 problem. You have to have QuickTime installed you understand right? Thanks for the feedback. -- On Sep 10, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Enric wrote:
 On IE 6 on PC the embed... areas comes out as a white boxs with scroll bar on the right.If I click on the box, nothing happens.It works correctly on FireFox on the PC.
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