Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Mike Hudack


Hey Frank,Mike here from blip.  Our network connections all look good... One catch is that we do "fair queue" people so that everyone gets a fair share of our bandwidth -- so if you're downloading a bunch of feeds at the same time you may find that each individual one runs a bit slower than if you just download one at a time.I'm e-mailing you off-list, too, so we can run some diagnostics to make sure there aren't any problems between you and blip's servers.Yours,MikeCo-founder, blip.tvOn Nov 14, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Frank Carver wrote:I've noticed over the last few days that all the feeds I get fromblip.tv are just dribbling in. At first I thought it was a networkproblem, but data transfer from other sources is still at my fullbroadband rate.Blip.tv seems to be "choking" the data transfer to something like4kb/sec per feed, which is taking ... ages ...Is this happening to anyone else?-- Frank Carver   http://www.makevideo.org.uk

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Markus Sandy
yes, I've felt the same way over the weekend
but it appears to have been due to firefox/mac (for me)

I'm not sure why, but i think it might have been related to a short 
network outage that left firefox/mac in a slightly confused state.  i'm 
guessing here, but when this happened, i had been uploading to blip just 
before hand and so I'm thinking firefox may have messed up caching for 
blip until i restarted it.  everything else was working fine, so it 
seemed like it was blip until i launched safari and things were very 
snappy.  until i restarted firefox, i could not even load the blip.tv 
front page or see any vids or photos that were hosted there when looking 
at my vlogs.

don't know if that applies for you Frank, aren't you on windows?

markus

Frank Carver wrote:

I've noticed over the last few days that all the feeds I get from
blip.tv are just dribbling in. At first I thought it was a network
problem, but data transfer from other sources is still at my full
broadband rate.

Blip.tv seems to be choking the data transfer to something like
4kb/sec per feed, which is taking ... ages ...

Is this happening to anyone else?

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Mike Hudack


We've heard about a Firefox cache issue with blip before, and did everything we could to diagnose it, and the furthest we've come is that other browsers always work fine, and that restarting Firefox always fixes it.As far as Frank's problem, I think it's unrelated... It could be a result of many simultaneous downloads, or could be the result of some network congestion between Frank and blip's servers (which are in New York).On Nov 14, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Markus Sandy wrote:yes, I've felt the same way over the weekendbut it appears to have been due to firefox/mac (for me)I'm not sure why, but i think it might have been related to a short network outage that left firefox/mac in a slightly confused state.  i'm guessing here, but when this happened, i had been uploading to blip just before hand and so I'm thinking firefox may have messed up caching for blip until i restarted it.  everything else was working fine, so it seemed like it was blip until i launched safari and things were very snappy.  until i restarted firefox, i could not even load the blip.tv front page or see any vids or photos that were hosted there when looking at my vlogs.don't know if that applies for you Frank, aren't you on windows?markusFrank Carver wrote: I've noticed over the last few days that all the feeds I get fromblip.tv are just dribbling in. At first I thought it was a networkproblem, but data transfer from other sources is still at my fullbroadband rate.Blip.tv seems to be "choking" the data transfer to something like4kb/sec per feed, which is taking ... ages ...Is this happening to anyone else?




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Frank Carver
Monday, November 14, 2005, 9:41:59 PM, Markus Sandy wrote:

 yes, I've felt the same way over the weekend
 but it appears to have been due to firefox/mac (for me)
 ...
 don't know if that applies for you Frank, aren't you on windows?

I am, and to complicate the issue, I'm mainly seeing the problem
in iPodder, which I use to fetch enclosures from the 120+ videoblogs
that I subscribe to. Enclosures from other sources typically come in
much faster, up to my broadband rate of 230kB/sec.

The trouble is that the blip feeds (of which there are now quite a
few) run so much more slowly that they are eventually the only ones
left in the download queue, and I have to wait hours for the last few
blip.tv enclosures to saunter in.

This is all despite several PC restarts. I even restarted my
firewall/gateway machine, just in case, but no improvement.

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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Mike Hudack


Frank,Did you get my e-mail off-list?  Let's see if we can't run a couple tests to see whether there's a routing problem between you and blip.On Nov 14, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Frank Carver wrote:Monday, November 14, 2005, 9:41:59 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: yes, I've felt the same way over the weekendbut it appears to have been due to firefox/mac (for me)...don't know if that applies for you Frank, aren't you on windows? I am, and to complicate the issue, I'm mainly seeing the problemin iPodder, which I use to fetch enclosures from the 120+ videoblogsthat I subscribe to. Enclosures from other sources typically come inmuch faster, up to my broadband rate of 230kB/sec.The trouble is that the blip feeds (of which there are now quite afew) run so much more slowly that they are eventually the only onesleft in the download queue, and I have to wait hours for the last fewblip.tv enclosures to saunter in.This is all despite several PC restarts. I even restarted myfirewall/gateway machine, just in case, but no improvement.




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Frank Carver
Monday, November 14, 2005, 10:11:03 PM, Mike Hudack wrote:
 Did you get my e-mail off-list?  Let's see if we can't run a couple
 tests to see whether there's a routing problem between you and blip.

I did. I even replied to it. I guess you didn't get the reply (or is
it hiding in your junk folder?)

Anyway. I'm up for some tests. What do you suggest?

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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Randolfe Wicker





I've noticed widely varying rates for downloading 
various files from Blip TV. I actually thought it might be the fault of 
the producers of the videos. However, I did have trouble uploading one 
evening between eleven and midnight but everything went swiftly when I tried 
again at 2:30 A.M It might have to do with the volume of traffic Blip 
(or the vlog you're watching) is getting.

I'm not a tech person. If you have a popular 
vlog and one or two or three other people are downloading it at the same time, 
does that mean your download will go more slowly? Does anyone 
know?
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The 
Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Carver 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:42 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Is there 
  someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?
  I've noticed over the last few days that all the feeds 
  I get fromblip.tv are just dribbling in. At first I thought it was a 
  networkproblem, but data transfer from other sources is still at my 
  fullbroadband rate.Blip.tv seems to be "choking" the data transfer 
  to something like4kb/sec per feed, which is taking ... ages ...Is 
  this happening to anyone else?-- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Mike Hudack


Hey Randy,The answer, as always, is "it depends."Generally speaking, the number of people downloading a specific video that's hosted on blip (or other big hosting services) shouldn't affect each individual's download speed.  So the speed for one person should be the same whether one or twenty people are downloading the video at a time.  This is different for different services, though.  Some put limits on how much downloading they let happen at the same time, and different services have different amounts of bandwidth to offer.The best analogy I've heard to date is that of a straw.  Only so much liquid can fit through a straw.  Internet connections are like a straw -- only so much video can fit through them.Again, though, big hosting providers generally have enough bandwidth to cover usage.  We have really big straws.  So, the simple answer is no -- two or three people downloading a clip simultaneously shouldn't have a negative effect.As far as your problem with uploading, I'm sorry it happened!  Any number of things could have influenced that, and without being able to test things at the time it happened (or it happening again) it's really hard for me to guess as to the cause.Yours,MikeOn Nov 14, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:I've noticed widely varying rates for downloading various files from Blip TV.  I actually thought it might be the fault of the producers of the videos.  However, I did have trouble uploading one evening between eleven and midnight but everything went swiftly when I tried again at 2:30 A.M  It might have to do with the volume of traffic Blip (or the vlog you're watching) is getting. I'm not a tech person.  If you have a popular vlog and one or two or three other people are downloading it at the same time, does that mean your download will go more slowly?  Does anyone know?Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280  - Original Message -From: Frank CarverTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:42 PMSubject: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?I've noticed over the last few days that all the feeds I get fromblip.tv are just dribbling in. At first I thought it was a networkproblem, but data transfer from other sources is still at my fullbroadband rate.Blip.tv seems to be "choking" the data transfer to something like4kb/sec per feed, which is taking ... ages ...Is this happening to anyone else?-- Frank Carver   http://www.makevideo.org.ukSPONSORED LINKSIndividualFireantUseYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?

2005-11-14 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Thanks, Mike. I really don't think anyone 
providing "free services" should feel that they should apologize if some minor 
problem develops.

I've always gotten fairly rapid replies and help to 
any problems I had with Blip.

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike Hudack 

  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:32 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Is there 
  someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just me?
  Hey Randy,
  
  The answer, as always, is "it depends."
  
  Generally speaking, the number of people downloading a specific video 
  that's hosted on blip (or other big hosting services) shouldn't affect each 
  individual's download speed. So the speed for one person should be the 
  same whether one or twenty people are downloading the video at a time. 
  This is different for different services, though. Some put limits on how 
  much downloading they let happen at the same time, and different services have 
  different amounts of bandwidth to offer.
  
  The best analogy I've heard to date is that of a straw. Only so 
  much liquid can fit through a straw. Internet connections are like a 
  straw -- only so much video can fit through them.
  
  Again, though, big hosting providers generally have enough bandwidth to 
  cover usage. We have really big straws. So, the simple answer is 
  no -- two or three people downloading a clip simultaneously shouldn't have a 
  negative effect.
  
  As far as your problem with uploading, I'm sorry it happened! Any 
  number of things could have influenced that, and without being able to test 
  things at the time it happened (or it happening again) it's really hard for me 
  to guess as to the cause.
  
  Yours,
  
  Mike
  
  
  On Nov 14, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  
I've noticed widely varying 
rates for downloading various files from Blip TV. I actually thought 
it might be the fault of the producers of the videos. However, I did 
have trouble uploading one evening between eleven and midnight but 
everything went swiftly when I tried again at 2:30 A.M It might 
have to do with the volume of traffic Blip (or the vlog you're watching) is 
getting.

I'm not a tech person. If 
you have a popular vlog and one or two or three other people are downloading 
it at the same time, does that mean your download will go more slowly? 
Does anyone know?
Randolfe (Randy) 
Wicker

Videographer, Writer, 
ActivistAdvisor: 
The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message 
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  Carver
  To: 
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: 
  Monday, November 14, 2005 3:42 PM
  Subject: 
  [videoblogging] Is there someting wrong with blip.tv, or is it just 
  me?
  I've noticed over the last few days that all the 
  feeds I get fromblip.tv are just dribbling in. At first I thought it 
  was a networkproblem, but data transfer from other sources is still at 
  my fullbroadband rate.Blip.tv seems to be "choking" the data 
  transfer to something like4kb/sec per feed, which is taking ... ages 
  ...Is this happening to anyone else?--Frank Carverhttp://www.makevideo.org.uk
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