Re: [videoblogging] teaching the masses (was: Open Vlog on FOSS)

2005-09-17 Thread Navin Dhanuka 



We have put our first entry for download here http://www.foss.tv/restricted

It is a documentary on the hackers behind the localization of Linux.
Language: English, Marathi, Nepali, Bengali, Odiya, Telgu, Gujrati ...

Its just an alpha release.
We are now composing the background score for the movie.

Very soon we are coming with tutorials for people.
they willbe able to see stuff like how-to networking, samba, PHP, MySQL etc.

regards,
Navin Dhaunka








  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] teaching the masses (was: Open Vlog on FOSS)

2005-09-16 Thread Randolfe Wicker 





Jay, I sent an email to Andrew just a couple days 
ago suggesting he highlight a "vlog of the day" with just a few seconds of 
exposure and a link to send people there after watching Rocketboom.
 
That would be a great way for good vlogs to build 
an audience.  It would also be a good way for Rocketboom to have a steady 
source of new and interesting stuff.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jay 
  dedman 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:03 
  AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] teaching the 
  masses (was: Open Vlog on FOSS)
  > This is precisely what I've tried to do with my vlog. 
  I focus on> rock and roll, but not just rock and roll but the narrow 
  sub genre> of Garage Rock. It's not so much of a community effort but I 
  do post> videos that bands and other people send me. The problem that 
  I'm> finding is that many people that should be in a natural audience 
  for> me aren't all that technologically advanced. I'd say that about 
  half> of them don't have broadband yet, and or don't have computers 
  that> are modern enough to view my videos. This is a community that 
  is> almost proud of being tech illiterate. It's like they'd be 
  selling> out to the man if they decided to upgrade their computer 
  or> something. I've been trying to convince them that they would 
  be> doing the opposite. It's DIY media, and the DYI ethic is strong 
  in> the underground rock and roll community so you would think it 
  should> be a natural--but it's not, for a lot of them 
  anyway.Bill--you got one of my favorite videoblogs.i love 
  the punk bands you put up.its completely makes sense in the evolution in 
  DIY music and presentation.ive also noticed that there are a lot of 
  pseudo-hip people who shun technology.fuckcomputers. fuck the 
  internet.its a shame that rampant rebellion must spread into 
  ignornace.i got a friend who just got a cell phone. its 2005 for fuck 
  sake.of course, he used to annoy everyone with his diatribes on "wanting 
  tobe disconnected".now he loves that cheap nokia phone he 
  bought.bottom line:keep doing what youre doing.there's enough 
  of us to give you an audience.others will come around.we have a lot of 
  educating to do.the #1 biggest hurdle is teaching people about 
  subscribing to RSS feeds.people have no prior experience with it so its 
  brand new.maybe  andrew barron of rocketboom could use some of 
  his popularity topoint his audience to others doing good work.pick of 
  the week or something.he's a guy who could teach people about subscribing 
  to RSS feeds.Jay-- Adventures in Videoblogginghttp://www.momentshowing.net>

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] teaching the masses (was: Open Vlog on FOSS)

2005-09-16 Thread andrew michael baron 
On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:29 AM, andrew michael baron wrote:

>>
>> maybe  andrew barron of rocketboom could use some of his  
>> popularity to
>> point his audience to others doing good work.
>> pick of the week or something.


We do have plans for this too, I've announced it here on this list  
even.  The only reason why it got stopped up is because Amanda and I  
are experiencing growing pains and cant do everything by ourselves  
anymore and so things are getting messy.

Anyway, last week we hired an intern who is working on our  
videoblogging resource page as we speak. We already have the database  
built from and filled in from scratch and as of this week and should  
have it up and running with design by next week (this time I can say  
I think we'll make the time frame because the help is finally there).

I think it will be a great resource to open up the flood gates and  
provide a very easy access to the rest of the videoblogging community  
from those people that visit Rocketboom.



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Re: [videoblogging] teaching the masses (was: Open Vlog on FOSS)

2005-09-16 Thread andrew michael baron 
>
> maybe  andrew barron of rocketboom could use some of his popularity to
> point his audience to others doing good work.
> pick of the week or something.
> he's a guy who could teach people about subscribing to RSS feeds.
>
> Jay

Jay Deadman, Rocketboom is not a classroom. However, we have always  
informed our audience about these things. Those people that watch  
Rocketboom regularly likely know all about RSS and a lot more complex  
backend technical issues from simply tuning in.

We have running jokes about RSS, we cover the people who invented it,  
we often refer to it in other contexts, we have extras with tutorial  
walk-throughs and we finally now assume our regular audience knows  
about it and if we continue to try and "teach" to them, they will  
revolt against the tired subject.

I'm surprised the ANT site does not do more to explain what it is,  
since thats so much the business that you are in.

When new people coming out of nowhere ask me about RSS, I usually  
just say "Download a copy of FireANT and just click around, you'll  
figure it out pretty quickly".

Do you guys have any plans at FireANT to do more information sharing  
on explaining what RSS is and how it works?

Look for an upcoming Rocketboom episode where Amanda goes for a walk  
through the city as if each building is a website and each billboard  
is a banner add. The city is the web in 3D. Even all the hardware  
stores are clustered around the same district. The episode will show  
off, and make a political statement about how and why to use  
Bittorrent with RSS. Its the most efficient way for the city to work.

Also, as a final note, for example, if you look at our last Friday's  
episode, its an example of how we call attention to a subject matter  
like the energy crisis, in a way that is hopefully entertaining which  
thus hopefully gets people excited about it and looking into it  
further on their end. I think we are finding the most effective way  
to explain things is merely providing easy access (in the form of  
story links) to the information thats out there already. Information  
filtering with personal commentary. Its just one way.





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