Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot
Laura: I still am unclear what you are really asking. I don't know about e-book licensing, I only do media. I have developed my own template for a streaming license. It can be amended by the Vendor to suit their particular situation. It provides me with consistency in wording and makes conforming to terms easier at my end, which is really what it's all about. In order for that license to be used, it had to pass several checks within our college, and even approval by the Risk Management Branch of our provincial government. So, now, using the template smooths the way for a faster purchase. The license template is modifiable for Title; length of license term; cost; and how the digital file is created or delivered. When we purchase DVDs we don't need licenses for each title, so the digital route is more bureaucratic, and I have to input the details in our ERM (Electronic Records Management) module in Sierra. Definitely more work. At the end of a license, somebody has to negotiate a renewal, or remove the file from the server and remove the MARC record from the system. Susan Susan Weber Media Librarian Library T 604.323.5533 F 604.323.5512 swe...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Susan Weber swe...@langara.bc.ca Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6 On 04/02/2014 6:45 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote: Hi videolibbers, I’m going to reboot my question in hopes that I might get a few more responses. My question is philosophical in nature, rather than about obtaining a lease to particular film. How do licensing models for e-books compare to licensing models of streaming videos now? What do we predict for the future? Thanks again for the guidance I’ve received already. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Laura Jenemann *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Thanks, Jessica, for helping me to clarify. All of the issues you mention are topics for consideration. My question is more of a general one: How are libraries dealing with this new model, and are they expressing policies publicly? Regards, Laura *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 12:11 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Have you contacted the rights holder/distributor to see if they can do a license for a semester or whatever length you need? I would think most would be flexible. Or do you mean that the film is only sold with PPR rights and NOT streaming rights? These are two very distinct rights and it is very possible that a company that sells only PPR rights does not own streaming rights. Again not clear on if you can only get PPR rights and need streaming but in general streaming rights are easier to obtain for short terms since most major rights holders limit streaming to a year in the case of studios. You also have the issue of nearly constant rights changes. I know this has been my personal crusade but I still caution when buying fiction feature films with lifetime rights from anyone other than the filmmaker or production company as I know of no company willing to license these for lifetime streaming. Regards Jessica On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Laura Jenemann ljene...@gmu.edu mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu wrote: Dear videolibbers, and especially academic librarians with distance education programs, How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? Please feel free to contact me off list with your response or links to collection development policies. Thank you so much for your responses. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 tel:703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving
Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot
I would add that most of our e-book packages are similar to our streaming video packages like Alexander Street Press. They tend to be subscription packages, and the content is not really guaranteed for life. Not that this happens often with ASP, but with our e-book packages there have been many occasions when content disappeared when the contract between the distributor and the publisher ran out. Also, some e-book deals are for unlimited simultaneous users while others are single-seat. Some allow downloads, others don't. Some work with mobile devices and e-readers and others don't. And I believe all of the contracts are term-limited, but I'm not sure how. I would imagine we subscribe to packages for 1 year up to 3 years. It's still kind of the wild west out there... Cheers, Matt Matt Ball Media and Collections Librarian University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 mattb...@virginia.edu | 434-924-3812 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] on behalf of Susan Weber [swe...@langara.bc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:30 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot Laura: I still am unclear what you are really asking. I don't know about e-book licensing, I only do media. I have developed my own template for a streaming license. It can be amended by the Vendor to suit their particular situation. It provides me with consistency in wording and makes conforming to terms easier at my end, which is really what it's all about. In order for that license to be used, it had to pass several checks within our college, and even approval by the Risk Management Branch of our provincial government. So, now, using the template smooths the way for a faster purchase. The license template is modifiable for Title; length of license term; cost; and how the digital file is created or delivered. When we purchase DVDs we don't need licenses for each title, so the digital route is more bureaucratic, and I have to input the details in our ERM (Electronic Records Management) module in Sierra. Definitely more work. At the end of a license, somebody has to negotiate a renewal, or remove the file from the server and remove the MARC record from the system. Susan Susan Weber Media Librarian Library T 604.323.5533 F 604.323.5512 swe...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Susan Weber swe...@langara.bc.ca Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6 On 04/02/2014 6:45 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote: Hi videolibbers, I’m going to reboot my question in hopes that I might get a few more responses. My question is philosophical in nature, rather than about obtaining a lease to particular film. How do licensing models for e-books compare to licensing models of streaming videos now? What do we predict for the future? Thanks again for the guidance I’ve received already. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Laura Jenemann *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Thanks, Jessica, for helping me to clarify. All of the issues you mention are topics for consideration. My question is more of a general one: How are libraries dealing with this new model, and are they expressing policies publicly? Regards, Laura *From:*videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 12:11 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Have you contacted the rights holder/distributor to see if they can do a license for a semester or whatever length you need? I would think most would be flexible. Or do you mean that the film is only sold with PPR rights and NOT streaming rights? These are two very distinct rights and it is very possible that a company that sells only PPR rights does not own streaming rights. Again not clear on if you can only get PPR rights and need streaming but in general streaming rights are easier to obtain for short terms since most major rights holders limit streaming to a year in the case of studios. You also have the issue of nearly constant rights changes. I know this has been my personal crusade but I still caution when buying fiction feature films with lifetime rights from anyone other than the filmmaker or production company as I know of no company willing to license these for lifetime streaming. Regards Jessica On Mon, Feb 3, 2014
Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot
Well you will inevitably get different types of contracts for streaming film. I know I sound like a broken record but only a relatively small number of films can really be purchased with lifetime streaming which I know libraries would love. Nearly all fiction feature films either have contracts that limit the distributors rights to a set number of years or they are owned by major studios who I don't believe will ever agree to selling lifetime streaming rights. The exception would be non fiction work where you are either dealing directly with the filmmaker or with their representative who has agreed to let them sell lifetime rights. I would really urge caution and make sure ask anyone selling lifetime streaming to indemnify that they either own them outright ( pretty much the directors) or have an explicit contract from rights holder granting them the specific right to sell lifetime streaming. There is in my view always going massive numbers of films changing distributors and rights holders. ASP and other services are naturally going to lose rights to some films and get rights to others as are distributors who sell direct streaming rights. I have been cynical about this back to 16mm days. There is simply never going to be one model or source that gets you rights to do what you want with every film. As noted in a previous email right now you can't not for any amount of money get streaming rights for CITY LIGHTS or BLADE RUNNER. We know you can't even get US distributed copy of A DAY IN THE COUNTRY let alone any rights for streaming or PPR. Just do the best you can to get the rights you need but understand that believe it or not some classes will have to actually show the film in class or buy a region 2 DVD to circulate or have to find another title because the one the prof wants simply is not legally available in any format On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote: I would add that most of our e-book packages are similar to our streaming video packages like Alexander Street Press. They tend to be subscription packages, and the content is not really guaranteed for life. Not that this happens often with ASP, but with our e-book packages there have been many occasions when content disappeared when the contract between the distributor and the publisher ran out. Also, some e-book deals are for unlimited simultaneous users while others are single-seat. Some allow downloads, others don't. Some work with mobile devices and e-readers and others don't. And I believe all of the contracts are term-limited, but I'm not sure how. I would imagine we subscribe to packages for 1 year up to 3 years. It's still kind of the wild west out there... Cheers, Matt Matt Ball Media and Collections Librarian University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 mattb...@virginia.edu | 434-924-3812 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [ videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] on behalf of Susan Weber [ swe...@langara.bc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:30 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot Laura: I still am unclear what you are really asking. I don't know about e-book licensing, I only do media. I have developed my own template for a streaming license. It can be amended by the Vendor to suit their particular situation. It provides me with consistency in wording and makes conforming to terms easier at my end, which is really what it's all about. In order for that license to be used, it had to pass several checks within our college, and even approval by the Risk Management Branch of our provincial government. So, now, using the template smooths the way for a faster purchase. The license template is modifiable for Title; length of license term; cost; and how the digital file is created or delivered. When we purchase DVDs we don't need licenses for each title, so the digital route is more bureaucratic, and I have to input the details in our ERM (Electronic Records Management) module in Sierra. Definitely more work. At the end of a license, somebody has to negotiate a renewal, or remove the file from the server and remove the MARC record from the system. Susan Susan Weber Media Librarian Library T 604.323.5533 F 604.323.5512 swe...@langara.bc.ca mailto:Susan Weber swe...@langara.bc.ca Langara. http://www.langara.bc.ca 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6 On 04/02/2014 6:45 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote: Hi videolibbers, I'm going to reboot my question in hopes that I might get a few more responses. My question is philosophical in nature, rather than about obtaining a lease to particular film. How do licensing models for e-books compare to licensing models of streaming videos now? What do we predict for the future? Thanks
Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot
Hi videolibbers, I'm going to reboot my question in hopes that I might get a few more responses. My question is philosophical in nature, rather than about obtaining a lease to particular film. How do licensing models for e-books compare to licensing models of streaming videos now? What do we predict for the future? Thanks again for the guidance I've received already. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Laura Jenemann Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:27 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Thanks, Jessica, for helping me to clarify. All of the issues you mention are topics for consideration. My question is more of a general one: How are libraries dealing with this new model, and are they expressing policies publicly? Regards, Laura From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:11 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Have you contacted the rights holder/distributor to see if they can do a license for a semester or whatever length you need? I would think most would be flexible. Or do you mean that the film is only sold with PPR rights and NOT streaming rights? These are two very distinct rights and it is very possible that a company that sells only PPR rights does not own streaming rights. Again not clear on if you can only get PPR rights and need streaming but in general streaming rights are easier to obtain for short terms since most major rights holders limit streaming to a year in the case of studios. You also have the issue of nearly constant rights changes. I know this has been my personal crusade but I still caution when buying fiction feature films with lifetime rights from anyone other than the filmmaker or production company as I know of no company willing to license these for lifetime streaming. Regards Jessica On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Laura Jenemann ljene...@gmu.edumailto:ljene...@gmu.edu wrote: Dear videolibbers, and especially academic librarians with distance education programs, How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? Please feel free to contact me off list with your response or links to collection development policies. Thank you so much for your responses. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593tel:703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edumailto:ljene...@gmu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films
Have you contacted the rights holder/distributor to see if they can do a license for a semester or whatever length you need? I would think most would be flexible. Or do you mean that the film is only sold with PPR rights and NOT streaming rights? These are two very distinct rights and it is very possible that a company that sells only PPR rights does not own streaming rights. Again not clear on if you can only get PPR rights and need streaming but in general streaming rights are easier to obtain for short terms since most major rights holders limit streaming to a year in the case of studios. You also have the issue of nearly constant rights changes. I know this has been my personal crusade but I still caution when buying fiction feature films with lifetime rights from anyone other than the filmmaker or production company as I know of no company willing to license these for lifetime streaming. Regards Jessica On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Laura Jenemann ljene...@gmu.edu wrote: Dear videolibbers, and especially academic librarians with distance education programs, How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? Please feel free to contact me off list with your response or links to collection development policies. Thank you so much for your responses. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films
Thanks, Jessica, for helping me to clarify. All of the issues you mention are topics for consideration. My question is more of a general one: How are libraries dealing with this new model, and are they expressing policies publicly? Regards, Laura From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:11 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films Have you contacted the rights holder/distributor to see if they can do a license for a semester or whatever length you need? I would think most would be flexible. Or do you mean that the film is only sold with PPR rights and NOT streaming rights? These are two very distinct rights and it is very possible that a company that sells only PPR rights does not own streaming rights. Again not clear on if you can only get PPR rights and need streaming but in general streaming rights are easier to obtain for short terms since most major rights holders limit streaming to a year in the case of studios. You also have the issue of nearly constant rights changes. I know this has been my personal crusade but I still caution when buying fiction feature films with lifetime rights from anyone other than the filmmaker or production company as I know of no company willing to license these for lifetime streaming. Regards Jessica On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Laura Jenemann ljene...@gmu.edumailto:ljene...@gmu.edu wrote: Dear videolibbers, and especially academic librarians with distance education programs, How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? Please feel free to contact me off list with your response or links to collection development policies. Thank you so much for your responses. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593tel:703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edumailto:ljene...@gmu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
