Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread ghandman
Let's put it this way, Jessica: I have about 32K tapes in my collection, and I can confidently say that I can show significant deterioration for the majority. This feature of 108 is perhaps the most idiotic of them all: what it effectively says is that you have to wait until the medium is

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread Jessica Rosner
No what it effectively says is you don't get the right to make a free copy or upgrade. It is pretty clear it was written for preservation and research not for circulation which would include classroom use. If you could just digitize everything ( which to be honest is happening in many

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread ghandman
Jessica... There's a HELL of a lot of difference between freely digitizing and delivering in-distribution content (under the banner of 107 or other rationales) and invoking 108 to save content that is out-of-distribution and at risk of going away for good. Come on, J. You KNOW these two things

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread Jessica Rosner
Except a ton of stuff is out of distribution and the rights holder can't afford to upgrade. If you give libraries carte blanche to make DVDs of any out of print video and that does seem to be what you are suggesting, it will be the end of educational distributors. The title that started this

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread Jessica Rosner
Because if ever library who bought a VHS just makes their own DVD then the actual owner has no incentive to make one because the market has been fatally compromised. If a distributor is going to invest tens of thousands of dollars and 300 major libraries already made their own DVD copies exactly

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread Dennis Doros
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:29 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: I've been in this biz close to 30 years and have virtually never seen a title which has gone out of distribution for any period of time come back in another format. It simply doesn't happen. Gary. No reflection on the

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread Music Hunter
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Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-14 Thread Gail Fedak
In the early 90s we did a collection-wide conversion of our U-matics to VHS based on whether we received permission from the copyright holders to do so. Titles whose copyright holders outright said no or wanted a license fee were not converted. Eventually, we were able to purchase or duplicate

[Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-13 Thread Marilyn Huntley
Hello, I'm forwarding a question that was sent to me by a professor. If we do not have the right to do what he's asking, can anyone give me contact information for the rights-holder? The Machine That Changed the World. A co-production of WGBH and the BBC; the 5 VHS tapes our library owns

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-13 Thread Jessica Rosner
I would be stunned it it were PD. I believe in order for it to be PD it would could never have been copyrighted in the first place as anything from the last 30 years or so does not require renewal. Do you have link to that reference? Also the fact that is NOT out on DVD is kind of sign it is NOT

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-13 Thread ghandman
It doesn't have to be in the PD in order for it to qualify for replacement copying under Section 108, Jessica: 108 can be invoked as soon as the library or archives has, after a reasonable effort, determined that an unused replacement cannot be obtained at a fair price. Recent discussions with

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-13 Thread Steffen, James M
Gary, thanks for your insights on this. Would it be possible to share the report for the Mellon project once it's finished? I'm sure that many of us on the list would be interested in it. Best, James -- James M. Steffen, PhD Film and Media Studies Librarian Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT

Re: [Videolib] Can we burn DVDs of The Machine That Changed the World?

2010-12-13 Thread ghandman
Hi James The Mellon project I'm working on has to do with preservation of out-of-distribution works. All this talk about 108 is, of course, a central issue for this project. The project is initially focused on identifying such stuff in three collections (NYU/Avery Fisher, Berkeley, and Loyola,