Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On 5/23/2011 1:06 PM, emacs user wrote: hi Uday, I think I managed to set this up, although didn't switch yet. one advantage may be that msmtp can get the needed smtp password from a system keyring/ keychain (on mac os x). see Ok, that is good. I see no downside to switching to msmtp. So, if you are able to, please go ahead. "Currently supported keyrings are the Gnome Keyring and the Mac OS X Keychain. The script msmtp-gnome-tool.py can be used to manage Gnome Keyring passwords for msmtp. To manage Mac OS X Keychain passwords, use the Keychain Access GUI application. The ‘account name’ is same as the msmtp ‘user’ argument. The ‘keychain item name’ is smtp:// where matches the msmtp ‘host’ argument." I wonder if this can also be used for incoming imap passwords in vm somehow... Well, VM doesn't do password storage on its own, but uses Emacs's auth-source library. I think Ted Zlatanov has Mac OS X on his TO-DO list too. Perhaps you can give him a prompt. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On 5/23/2011 1:01 PM, emacs user wrote: I'd be happy to try this. Is this done by setting some vm-variable? Not really. VM needs to be modified to work on top of message-mode. I have it on my TO-DO list. > will all the vm functionality still be there? the manual seems to > only indicate that mail mode is used and that it is not too > dissimilar from message mode... Yes, when it is done, there should be no visible change, except that message-mode will probably behave a bit better. We will also be able to use it to post messages to newsgroups. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On Friday, May 20, 2011 3:08:30 PM UTC+3, Uday Reddy wrote: > >http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/ > > Cheers, > Uday hi Uday, I think I managed to set this up, although didn't switch yet. one advantage may be that msmtp can get the needed smtp password from a system keyring/ keychain (on mac os x). see http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/doc/msmtp.html "Currently supported keyrings are the Gnome Keyring and the Mac OS X Keychain. The script msmtp-gnome-tool.py can be used to manage Gnome Keyring passwords for msmtp. To manage Mac OS X Keychain passwords, use the Keychain Access GUI application. The ‘account name’ is same as the msmtp ‘user’ argument. The ‘keychain item name’ is smtp:// where matches the msmtp ‘host’ argument." I wonder if this can also be used for incoming imap passwords in vm somehow...
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
> thanks, fantastic! what version of emacs can I apply this patch to? > I tried trunk and it failed, although I may have done this > incorrectly. cheers, E It's meant to be applied to `trunk' and seems to apply fine for me. Here it is again, freshly regenerated from trunk, and bundled up in a MIME attachment. Stefan === modified file 'lisp/mail/smtpmail.el' --- lisp/mail/smtpmail.el 2011-02-12 17:51:02 + +++ lisp/mail/smtpmail.el 2011-05-22 18:39:23 + @@ -941,15 +941,20 @@ (process-send-string process "\r\n")) (defun smtpmail-send-data (process buffer) - (let ((data-continue t) sending-data) + (let ((data-continue t) sending-data +(pr (make-progress-reporter "Sending email" +(with-current-buffer buffer (point-min)) +(with-current-buffer buffer (point-max) (with-current-buffer buffer (goto-char (point-min))) (while data-continue (with-current-buffer buffer +(progress-reporter-update pr (point)) (setq sending-data (buffer-substring (point-at-bol) (point-at-eol))) (end-of-line 2) (setq data-continue (not (eobp - (smtpmail-send-data-1 process sending-data + (smtpmail-send-data-1 process sending-data)) +(progress-reporter-done pr))) (defun smtpmail-deduce-address-list (smtpmail-text-buffer header-start header-end) "Get address list suitable for smtp RCPT TO: ."
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:41:28 PM UTC+3, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > It's meant to be applied to `trunk' and seems to apply fine for me. > Here it is again, freshly regenerated from trunk, and bundled up in > a MIME attachment. > > > Stefan OK, this worked miraculously well, totally appreciate this, thanks! may be good to put a space between "sending mail" and the percent indicator. cheers, E
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
> I use vm with smtpmail to send mail. when on a slow wireless > connection, sending 20Mb attachments can take over 10 minutes. I am > wondering if there is a way to get some progress indicator, such as a > continuously updating "percent uploaded" in the echo area? You could try the patch below. > also, smtp fails quite often, and then I am left with the outgoing > mail buffer. Do you happen to know why? > I can press c-c c-c to try again and that works in most cases, but > then it adds the message to the outgoing folder again, so I need to > erase the .FCC line by hand. wouldn't it be good if a failed message > was automatically put in "outgoing folder" such as a queued- mail > directory, and then sent at a later time? perhaps when smtpmail is > called again to send another message? That seems to be specific to VM, so I'll let the VM crowd handle it. Stefan === modified file 'lisp/mail/smtpmail.el' --- lisp/mail/smtpmail.el 2011-02-12 17:51:02 + +++ lisp/mail/smtpmail.el 2011-05-20 12:44:28 + @@ -941,15 +941,20 @@ (process-send-string process "\r\n")) (defun smtpmail-send-data (process buffer) - (let ((data-continue t) sending-data) + (let ((data-continue t) sending-data +(pr (make-progress-reporter "Sending email" +(with-current-buffer buffer (point-min)) +(with-current-buffer buffer (point-max) (with-current-buffer buffer (goto-char (point-min))) (while data-continue (with-current-buffer buffer +(progress-reporter-update pr (point)) (setq sending-data (buffer-substring (point-at-bol) (point-at-eol))) (end-of-line 2) (setq data-continue (not (eobp - (smtpmail-send-data-1 process sending-data + (smtpmail-send-data-1 process sending-data)) +(progress-reporter-done pr))) (defun smtpmail-deduce-address-list (smtpmail-text-buffer header-start header-end) "Get address list suitable for smtp RCPT TO: ."
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
I think smtpmail is a make-shift solution for sending mail from client machines. You might try experimenting with msmtp, which is a native program that implements the SMTP protocol for your machine. Here is the link to the msmtp page: http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Uday On 5/20/2011 9:30 AM, emacs user wrote: hi all, These aren't bug reports, but more like feature requests, in the hope that these features already exist and I dont know how to activate them. I use vm with smtpmail to send mail. when on a slow wireless connection, sending 20Mb attachments can take over 10 minutes. I am wondering if there is a way to get some progress indicator, such as a continuously updating "percent uploaded" in the echo area? also, smtp fails quite often, and then I am left with the outgoing mail buffer. I can press c-c c-c to try again and that works in most cases, but then it adds the message to the outgoing folder again, so I need to erase the .FCC line by hand. wouldn't it be good if a failed message was automatically put in "outgoing folder" such as a queued- mail directory, and then sent at a later time? perhaps when smtpmail is called again to send another message? cheers, E
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
>>> I can press c-c c-c to try again and that works in most cases, but >>> then it adds the message to the outgoing folder again, so I need to >>> erase the .FCC line by hand. wouldn't it be good if a failed message >>> was automatically put in "outgoing folder" such as a queued- mail >>> directory, and then sent at a later time? perhaps when smtpmail is >>> called again to send another message? >> That seems to be specific to VM, so I'll let the VM crowd handle it. > Well, it is not really a VM thing, except to say that VM is still using > mail-mode for sending mail, which is semi-obsolete. mail-mode puts FCC > headers in the message composition buffer and leaves them there until the > message gets sent. Sounds like we have a bug there, then. I guess "emacs user " should M-x report-emacs-bug about it. > Perhaps moving to message-mode will cure the problem? I wouldn't know. Stefan
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On 5/20/2011 1:46 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I can press c-c c-c to try again and that works in most cases, but then it adds the message to the outgoing folder again, so I need to erase the .FCC line by hand. wouldn't it be good if a failed message was automatically put in "outgoing folder" such as a queued- mail directory, and then sent at a later time? perhaps when smtpmail is called again to send another message? That seems to be specific to VM, so I'll let the VM crowd handle it. Well, it is not really a VM thing, except to say that VM is still using mail-mode for sending mail, which is semi-obsolete. mail-mode puts FCC headers in the message composition buffer and leaves them there until the message gets sent. Perhaps moving to message-mode will cure the problem? Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On Monday, May 23, 2011 9:50:17 AM UTC+3, Uday Reddy wrote: > On 5/20/2011 1:46 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> I can press c-c c-c to try again and that works in most cases, but > >> then it adds the message to the outgoing folder again, so I need to > >> erase the .FCC line by hand. wouldn't it be good if a failed message > >> was automatically put in "outgoing folder" such as a queued- mail > >> directory, and then sent at a later time? perhaps when smtpmail is > >> called again to send another message? > > > > That seems to be specific to VM, so I'll let the VM crowd handle it. > > Well, it is not really a VM thing, except to say that VM is still using > mail-mode for sending mail, which is semi-obsolete. mail-mode puts FCC > headers in the message composition buffer and leaves them there until > the message gets sent. > > Perhaps moving to message-mode will cure the problem? > > Cheers, > Uday I'd be happy to try this. Is this done by setting some vm-variable? will all the vm functionality still be there? the manual seems to only indicate that mail mode is used and that it is not too dissimilar from message mode...
Re: [VM] smtp issues: progress indicator and gracious failure
On May 20, 3:46 pm, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I use vm with smtpmail to send mail. when on a slow wireless > > connection, sending 20Mb attachments can take over 10 minutes. I am > > wondering if there is a way to get some progress indicator, such as a > > continuously updating "percent uploaded" in the echo area? > > You could try the patch below. > > > also, smtp fails quite often, and then I am left with the outgoing > > mail buffer. > > Do you happen to know why? > > > I can press c-c c-c to try again and that works in most cases, but > > then it adds the message to the outgoing folder again, so I need to > > erase the .FCC line by hand. wouldn't it be good if a failed message > > was automatically put in "outgoing folder" such as a queued- mail > > directory, and then sent at a later time? perhaps when smtpmail is > > called again to send another message? > > That seems to be specific to VM, so I'll let the VM crowd handle it. > > Stefan > > === modified file 'lisp/mail/smtpmail.el' > --- lisp/mail/smtpmail.el 2011-02-12 17:51:02 + > +++ lisp/mail/smtpmail.el 2011-05-20 12:44:28 + thanks, fantastic! what version of emacs can I apply this patch to? I tried trunk and it failed, although I may have done this incorrectly. cheers, E
