On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:29:57 +0200, David Ne?as (Yeti)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:14:43PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
PS: On another note: how do you (as in y'all) feel about somebody
re-arranging your text when quoting you? I guess the simple parts
Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 17:05 +0800 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
PS: This Off-topic thread has been talked long and I'm sorry to bring
excess load to vim mailing list, please mail directly to me if any vimmer
friends wants to talk futher about it. Thanks.
This was a very good comment.
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.05.29 05:15]:
See, though I always do trim, I still suffered
from those who do not trim and use
bottom-posting.
I take it your mail program doesn't have a
hide-quoted-text function. Who says text-based
mail programs are primitive? :-)
--
JR
Steve Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写于 2007-05-29 12:19:43:
You could say that top posting is easier to write, but bottom posting
is easier to read. The extra effort of one poster saves all the
readers the same amount of effort. For a group, bottom posting keeps
everyone on track. And if done well,
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] is quoted my replies are inline below :
Steve Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写于 2007-05-29 12:19:43:
You could say that top posting is easier to write, but bottom posting
is easier to read. The extra effort of one poster saves all the
readers the same amount of effort. For a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写于 2007-05-29 12:19:43:
You could say that top posting is easier to write, but bottom posting
is easier to read. The extra effort of one poster saves all the
readers the same amount of effort. For a group, bottom posting keeps
everyone on
On Tue, 29 May 2007 14:12:07 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An explaination why top-post is easier to read:
When I am viewing an e-mail, the reply is the main part of the message and
I usually quite aware of what the original post is. So I should be able to
see the reply when I open the
Matthew Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写于 2007-05-29 16:10:57:
Write top-post or bottom-post makes no difference for me, the problem
is
that I found bottom-post is harder to read since I will have to skim
all
original messages before I could read the actual reply.
If you have to skim a lot of text
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写于 2007-05-29 16:10:57:
That's the wrong attitude. This is the Internet. You're supposed to
insist that you know better than everyone else even if they've been
using the Internet for decades, and you have loads of lurkers who
support
Christian J. Robinson wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting (i.e.
replied message shows before the original message),
In my experience it's more that it can be frustrating to try to
automatically position the cursor
Michael Henry wrote:
[...]
I continue to be impressed by the Vim mailing list. Contributors are
helpful, willing to spend time answering in detail, and above all very
polite. This is one of the nicest top- versus bottom-posting
discussions I've seen on a mailing list :-)
Michael Henry
Yes
On Tue, 29 May 2007 06:25:40 -0400, Michael Henry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-05-29 16:10:57:
That's the wrong attitude. This is the Internet. You're supposed to
insist that you know better than everyone else even if they've
Matthew Winn wrote:
[...]
I've seen similar debates elsewhere where the top-poster's response
has been along the lines of This is my Internet on my computer; I'm
going to behave how I want and I don't care how much trouble I cause
for other people.
:D :D :D
Best regards,
Tony.
--
Executive
On 5/28/07, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks,
In the spirit contrarianism, I'm going to top-post now.
Actually, both parts of Mark's post below were of a _third_ variety:
interlinear comments.
I disagree. Interlinear is not third variety, but a subcategory of
either top-posting, or
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting
some email clients have an option. But it does not help much.
Top-vs-bottom depends on the specific mailing list.
If I am on mailing list X which has convention of
Yakov Lerner wrote:
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting
some email clients have an option. But it does not help much.
Top-vs-bottom depends on the specific mailing list.
If I am on mailing list X which has
An explaination why top-post is easier to read:
When I am viewing an e-mail, the reply is the main part of the message
and
I usually quite aware of what the original post is. So I should be able
to
see the reply when I open the message.
And if the message is edited down correctly, it likely will
Op dinsdag 29 mei 2007, schreef Gene Kwiecinski:
Write top-post or bottom-post makes no difference for me, the
problem
is
that I found bottom-post is harder to read since I will have to skim
all
original messages before I could read the actual reply.
Again, it's a lack of editing
Write top-post or bottom-post makes no difference for me, the
problem
Since you yourself are too lazy to fix your own quoted text, may i
Uhhh, that's not *my* doing, as the text gets resplit/rewrapped
somewhere else along the line. About the only thing I *could* do is
manually split it
Sounds very archaic, but if I read mails with dumb terminals (baud rate
2400 bps), and if I am not familiar with the subject of the thread, top
posting would be painful.
It would especially be so to whoever has the honor of answering most of
the questions on the list...
But other than
A slightly OT note, which amazingly is more IT than the thread itself
Uhhh, that's not my doing, as the text gets resplit/rewrapped
somewhere else along the line. About the only thing I could do is
manually split it shorter than the default (whatever that is)
Reformatting the quoted blocks
Uhhh, that's not my doing, as the text gets resplit/rewrapped
somewhere else along the line. About the only thing I could do is
manually split it shorter than the default (whatever that is)
Reformatting the quoted blocks (gq} or visual+gq as you like best)
while you're formatting your email
Am 29.05.2007 um 12:29 schrieb Michael Henry:
I wonder whether the cursor starts at the top of the email message
because that's where the trimming would most naturally begin, rather
than to facilitate top-posting. Perhaps it's the default deletion
point instead of the default insertion
Am 29.05.2007 um 05:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi vimmers:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is
prefered
on Vim Mainling List.
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting (i.e.
replied
message shows before the original message),
So far
Hi!
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
Am 29.05.2007 um 05:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why
bottom-posting is prefered on Vim Mainling List.
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting
(i.e. replied message shows
On 5/29/07, Ben Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds very archaic, but if I read mails with dumb terminals (baud rate
2400 bps), and if I am not familiar with the subject of the thread, top
posting would be painful.
It would especially be so to whoever has the honor of answering most of
the
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:14:43PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
PS: On another note: how do you (as in y'all) feel about somebody
re-arranging your text when quoting you? I guess the simple parts
(everything for example gw} does) are okay with just about
everyone. But what about the order
It seems that top-posters and bottom-posters belongs to
different party and no one can convice another.
Follow to difficult conversation the makes questions the reading
before answers the reading.
Responding with the answers interlinearly makes the conversation
easier to follow for people who
On 5/29/07, Gene Kwiecinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhhh, that's not my doing, as the text gets resplit/rewrapped
somewhere else along the line. About the only thing I could do is
manually split it shorter than the default (whatever that is)
Reformatting the quoted blocks (gq} or visual+gq as
mailinglist reading hundreds of mails a
day..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Hi vimmers:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is
prefered on Vim Mainling List.
[..]
and I personally
feel top-posting much much easier to read than bottom-posting.
..if You are one _having_
Op Tuesday 29 May 2007 19:33:37 schreef Gene Kwiecinski:
Want me to show you an actual screencap of my reply as it went out from
here?
Sure, take a look at:
http://watmoetikjenogeenkeeruitleggen.nl/Vim-Quoting/quoting-kmail.png
Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
[...]
btw. I join the voices that price the nice way people are discussing
even that (off-)topic on this list. Vimmers seem to be a special kind of
civilized people. :o))
About being off-topic: IMO netiquette questions about a list are always
on-topic on that same
On May 29, 2007, at 4:22 AM, Matthew Winn wrote:
I've seen similar debates elsewhere where the top-poster's response
has been along the lines of This is my Internet on my computer; I'm
going to behave how I want and I don't care how much trouble I cause
for other people.
Trimming _and_
Friedrich Strohmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写于 2007-05-30 07:00:11:
btw. I join the voices that price the nice way people are discussing
even that (off-)topic on this list. Vimmers seem to be a special kind of
civilized people. :o))
I think I could got some idea now:
A mailing list is a list,
Dave Land wrote:
On May 29, 2007, at 4:22 AM, Matthew Winn wrote:
I've seen similar debates elsewhere where the top-poster's response
has been along the lines of This is my Internet on my computer; I'm
going to behave how I want and I don't care how much trouble I cause
for other people.
Hi vimmers:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is prefered
on Vim Mainling List.
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting (i.e. replied
message shows before the original message), and I personally feel
top-posting much much easier to read than
Hi,
TOP POST:---
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:00 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi vimmers:
I'll try and explain
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is prefered
on Vim Mainling List.
Most do, but probably
On May 28, 2007, at 8:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is
prefered
on Vim Mainling List.
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting (i.e.
replied
message shows before the original message), and I personally
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:00 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is
prefered on Vim Mainling List.
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting (i.e.
replied message shows before the original message), and I
On Tue, 29 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is
prefered on Vim Mainling List.
It's usually preferred more than top-posting. Even on the blind Linux
users' mailing list they prefer that you don't top-post.
As far as I know
:
Hi vimmers:
Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is
prefered
on Vim Mainling List.
I'll try to explain
As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting
(i.e. replied
message shows before the original message), and I personally feel
top-posting much
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