Re: Can't restart IIci

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Have you tried it with NOTHING in the box but four 1meg SIMMs in Bank A (preferrably matched and known to be good) and a floppy drive? Get it that way then on another Mac, download the System 7.5 Network Access Disk (NAD) and see if the IIci will boot from that. (Of course you should make

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread R.A. Cantrell
on 8/1/02 12:44 AM, Steven at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't mind off-topic disussions, Really, please let us know just, in your opinion, what exactly is on topic, so that we don't ever again err. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread R.A. Cantrell
on 8/1/02 12:47 AM, b e n w e l l s | headwerkx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It happened here in Australia a few years ago; a charity organisation who reconditioned old junk PCs to give to children and schools who couldn't afford new year, and in turn gave job training to those were doing

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
it wasn't a school, it was a charity started up by a social worker to provide computers to families and other charities who couldn't afford them, and to provide IT training for people who couldn't afford an MSCE course. it was on TV and a MS Aust. rep. said straight into the camera It's software

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread Aedan McGhie/Scotland
This story just doesn't ring true. Microsoft make their newest software available cheap for schools ( As a student I bought new, licensed, XP and Office for $6 each) True but one of the things the US DOJ brought up was that when a new version comes out they increase the price of the old one

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:13 -0500 on 31/07/02, R.A. Cantrell wrote: Thanks for the response. To push the abstraction a bit further, let's say we're talking OS 8.1 and that it is on a computer bought and dragged in from a garage sale? How about on a stack of HD's

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- william ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip As with the music business (who, let's face it deserve to be ripped deep -- if it could only be done without hurting all of the artists), Without hurting the artists? Ha. Just ask the artists that haven't been cowed into spouting the music

Copyright

2002-08-01 Thread dhill
My general rule of thumb, is, if I use it, I pay for it. I use Works 4.0 and it is a legit copy. Paid for Opera and my trusty GraphicConvert. Bought and used the heck out of Allwrite, still my favorite wordprocessor. Also bought Dot Writer, and will soon build another Desk to fire up my

Re: copywrite

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not forget that there are companies that buy up software programs just to kill it. SCSI Director is one of those sad tales. TranSoft apparently bought it from another company, because version 1.7.2 doesn't have their name. TranSoft then developed

Re: copywrite

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Terry Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thought is that Copyright convictions usually involve actual damages that is the value of the pirated software to the company. It would be difficult to prove that this software that you don't even sell anymore is really worth anything to

Re: copywrite

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
DirecTV has been finding it a bit difficult to persue TV pirates in Canada due to a little quirk in the laws up there. Since DirecTV service cannot be sold in Canada, it has a value of zero in that country. Anything of zero value is worthless and only things that have value and/or worth can be

Re: Whining Drives

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Dry bearings. Dismantling a drive to drip a tiny amount of sewing machine oil on the bearings is a tricky proposition. Getting the thing back together is $^!@$@$ near impossible. :P I have an old Seagate 320meg SCSI that I took apart, got both bearings oiled but I couldn't get the heads back

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Aedan McGhie/Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... it's software piracy said the MS woman, like a robot. And there was something on MS web page about that recently. They warned charities about doing that kind of thing. What's _really_ perverse is all the ads Microsoft has put out

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread william ahearn
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- william ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip As with the music business (who, let's face it deserve to be ripped deep -- if it could only be done without hurting all of the artists), Without hurting the artists? Ha. Just ask the artists that haven't

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread Teri Pittman
At 04:39 AM 08/01/2002 -0500, you wrote: This story just doesn't ring true. Microsoft make their newest software available cheap for schools ( As a student I bought new, licensed, XP and Office for $6 each) -- In Oregon, MS was trying to insist that any donated PCs had to be kept with the

Re: Surreptitious, but not subversive, downloading

2002-08-01 Thread mart
Situation: I've got a fine Pismo G3 but a terribly slow phone connection. I need to download some large pgms and docs (Mozilla, etc,) and library only lets us use 1.4 meg floppies. So, has anyone been able to slip into the computer sections of their library and plug a zip drive into one of the

Re: Surreptitious, but not subversive, downloading

2002-08-01 Thread Gary Adams
What I use for large file transfers on my pre PPC Macs with SCSI is a 1.5 gb syjet they are still out there I have used on OS 6.3 on up with out a problem and then use it to move files to my PCC. The 1.5 gb is large enough to hold several systems and a bunch of files as old systems and files and

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread the pickle
At 09:57 +0100 on 01/08/02, Mark Benson wrote: $80 for 8.6) but they are still selling it retail. Therefore those companies are missing out on custom from people if they use a copied Yeah, but they don't have any claim to the loss because they aren't the copyright holder. That'd be like Apple

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread the pickle
At 04:39 -0500 on 01/08/02, R.A. Cantrell wrote: on 8/1/02 12:47 AM, b e n w e l l s | headwerkx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It happened here in Australia a few years ago; a charity organisation who reconditioned old junk PCs to give to children and schools who couldn't afford new year,

Re: copywrite

2002-08-01 Thread the pickle
At 11:51 -0700 on 01/08/02, Steven wrote: Evidently my request to the digest list wasn't honored. 10 hours later I get this nonsense again. In this particular post (DirectTV). WHAT THE HELL does this have anything to do with Macs. But who am I? The listmom is A LOT. Assuming you're like

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread Robert Gray
What are you supposed to do if you get a nasty virus or a power surge blasts your box or it gets stolen or cooked in a fire or otherwise trashed so the software onboard is permanently kaput? On vintage Macs, it's called backing-up your hard drive. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

Re: Classic Macs for Sale

2002-08-01 Thread Dan Knight
Brian K. Hillen writes: Sorry man, when I was on the Duo/2400 list from LEM I was told to post on the list itself for sale of items when if finally decided to try to sell my duo. I didn't know that the different lists had different rules. The Duo/2400 list is run by The Macintosh Guy. His

Re: copywrite

2002-08-01 Thread Terry Mathews
I hate indignant, self-righteous people. Terry Evidently my request to the digest list wasn't honored. 10 hours later I get this nonsense again. In this particular post (DirectTV). WHAT THE HELL does this have anything to do with Macs. But who am I? The listmom is allowing this crap.

Re: OS copyright

2002-08-01 Thread R.A. Cantrell
on 8/1/02 10:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I feel he understands my concerns, I also feel Try taking feel out of the equation. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Surreptitious, but not subversive, downloading

2002-08-01 Thread Dwight Hines
Why don't you just write down the TCP/IP settings of the PC, put them into your Pismo, plug the Cat 5 cable going to the PC into your Ethernet on the Pismo and download? Or take an AirPort Base Station in and do the same with it. Then you could sit over in a corner somewhere and