RE: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-10-01 Thread Rose Combs
Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products I hope you explained that Light Detector and Money Reader

RE: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-10-01 Thread Rose Combs
Alex came home, brain fart on my part. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products I put

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-10-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products I put Seeing Assistant on my phone and light detector does work from there, helps some, I don't know much about the other options but it is there. What happened

RE: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-30 Thread Rose Combs
and too tired to find out. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 8:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products I went to the Sprint

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2014-09-30 Thread Gary Petraccaro
the unusability of Light Detector and the money identifyer. - Original Message - From: Brett brettst...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:47 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products Hi, Yes, anyone can pay the fee, sign

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2014-09-30 Thread Charles Rivard
...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:09 PM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products With an iPhone 5, I've just tried to send 10 text messages using Voice Over and Siri. Less than half went out successfully. When I turned Voice Over off

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2014-09-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products With an iPhone 5, I've just tried to send 10 text messages using Voice Over and Siri. Less than half went out successfully. When I turned Voice Over off and repeated the same experiment with a sighted

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-30 Thread Charles Rivard
siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:20 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products I hope you explained that Light Detector and Money Reader are not working on your phone, that you know also they don't work on some other phones

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2014-09-30 Thread Gary Petraccaro
to them. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products Have you eMailed your tests and results to Apple so that they have some written

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-30 Thread Gary Petraccaro
. . - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:20 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products I hope you explained that Light Detector and Money Reader are not working on your phone

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2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:42 PM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities. The people could either work at apple itself or work from home. The employees from disability support could be asked

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products Hi Conni, I am sure people

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:42 PM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities. The people could either work at apple itself or work from home

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2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
. wonder what that is in #s. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:49 PM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products The only requirement to be a beta tester for iOS is 'a $99 per year

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2014-09-29 Thread Gary Petraccaro
! - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: One way Apple could better test its products Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on using VoiceOver. I don't mean

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2014-09-29 Thread Gary Petraccaro
What are the penalties for breaking that agreement? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products The only requirement

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2014-09-29 Thread Brett
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products The only requirement to be a beta tester for iOS is 'a $99 per year developer account fee. Anybody can sign up and pay the fee and sign the NDA (non-disclosure agreement) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email

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2014-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
are the penalties for breaking that agreement? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products The only requirement to be a beta

RE: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread Robin
Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products The only requirement to be a beta tester for iOS is 'a $99 per year developer account fee. Anybody can sign up and pay the fee and sign the NDA (non

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread Regina Alvarado
! - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: One way Apple could better test its products Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on using VoiceOver. I don't mean

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2014-09-28 Thread connie mohney
- From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: One way Apple could better test its products Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on using VoiceOver. I don't mean

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2014-09-28 Thread Joseph Hudson
24, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: One way Apple could better test its products Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally

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2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
works in the same department. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of connie mohney Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products

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2014-09-28 Thread Charles Rivard
! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products Hi

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-28 Thread connie mohney
finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products Hi Conni, I am sure people with disabilities do work

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-28 Thread connie mohney
finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products Hi Conni, I am sure people with disabilities do work

RE: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-28 Thread Neal Ewers
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of connie mohney Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products Of course. The person with a disability would have to have

One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-24 Thread Neal Ewers
Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally with keyboard shortcuts without touching the mouse. I know, it's not the same

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Neil, that is what the Apple accessibility department for. I know that they are a small team that is why they asked people like them to fix bugs. They go on with voiceover. In this case, it was not a voice over issue that was causing the problem. It was a service issue if you want to read

RE: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-24 Thread Neal Ewers
as a sighted person. Smile. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products Hi Neil

Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-24 Thread Charles Rivard
@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: One way Apple could better test its products Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being