Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-08 Thread Michael Irons
Hello everyone I generally do not yet the latest version of iOS when it comes out. I wait for later releases. I keep my updates on manual so that I can decide when I want to update. I doing this I’ve been able to stay out of places of iOS that had lots of problems. Sent from my iPhone > On

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-07 Thread davycuppens
And maybe having more patience fort he next big releases! Me happily using ios13.7. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Simon A Fogarty Verzonden: woensdag 7 oktober 2020 9:40 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Yeah we're all

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2020-10-07 Thread chaltain
I also saw it this morning on the Apps Library screen. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Mich Verrier > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-07 Thread Mich Verrier
Sent: October 6, 2020 11:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Yes, under your Apple Id it's pretty bad, also on the Today screen or whatever they call it nowadays I, for example, have a widget for my bank here in Canada which shows my balances and it's always just stuck

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2020-10-07 Thread Simon A Fogarty
. If not they probably get other bugs occurring. Cheers, Simon F -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 4:54 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Yes, under your Apple Id it's pretty bad, also

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2020-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
opens is inaccessible. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! And if you want a glaring example of the focus issue, go to Settings, your name, Media

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread regina alvarado
No argument with you on that one. I think I did say that I had seen it in settings and a couple of other places in the actual operating system. However, most of the places that I see yet are in apps. In fact, when I wrote to Apple about this they asked me for the apps that I was having problems

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Michael Irons
Hello everyone I generally do not yet the latest version of iOS when it comes out. I wait for later releases. I keep my updates on manual so that I can decide when I want to update. I doing this I’ve been able to stay out of places of iOS that had lots of problems. Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Lisa P. Geibel
Hi, I've been seeing this subject and ignoring it, but since I agree and have some issues with it myself, thought I'd chime in on how my Husband I think IOS14 sucks in case there's a fix for them. The first thing we hate about it, I don't think can be fixed as I remember seeing that this

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! I think that the focus issue is mostly in apps that have not been made properly to work with iOS 14. I had problems with one or two pages of the iOS, but where I’m having a terrible time is on my bank. I only have a Icon that takes me to my bank so I don’t know if it’s

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
3:56 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Some people always look at the cup as half empty and not half full and to them everything sucks. I must admit, however, that the focus issue in iOS 14 is extremely annoying and in some cases causes huge accessibility issues. I

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
be no updates and the world would be perfect. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 3:51 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! I’m getting alittle tired of this too. People jump on the first release of an IOS and then whine

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
but feedback helps cure those ills. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 3:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! Perhaps if people commented more constructively their opinion would be taken more seriously. What on earth IOS

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2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yes they have blind staff and I know one of them is seemingly a developer From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 3:39 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! Of course they have, at least one totally blind person working

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I’ve got a vacume cleaner, It sucks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 3:30 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! As you probably know, as I'm on the Public Beta User's list, I tested 14 too. I said in my email

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2020-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
. Just a thought! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 2:08 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked. I'm starting to see why people hold off on updating until a few release

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Alan Lemly
4:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! I've seen it on page 0, the page dedicated to widgets, so I don't think it's just an issue with apps supporting IOS 14. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegrou

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread sherrywells1157
. Sherry Wells -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! hello, be a beta tester and stop wining about this focus issue. as a beta tester, I did

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2020-10-06 Thread chaltain
: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! That is sinnical thinking. Apple has publicly and exclusively told AppleVis users how they’re committeded to Accessibility. They are a wonderful company, and by that logic, Vispero’s primary job is to make

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread chaltain
6, 2020 2:28 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! > > I think that the focus issue is mostly in apps that have not been made > properly to > work with iOS 14. I had problems with one or two pages of the iOS, but where > I’m having a terrible time

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Devin Prater
l on 13.7. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:04 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! > > A good place to sta

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2020-10-06 Thread regina alvarado
11:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! A good place to start would be to keep track of what people have been reporting on this list for the last 3 weeks and to read the information available on Applevis.com about iOS 14, it's been spelled out many times what the

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2020-10-06 Thread Carolyn
That is right, and that is why,k I'm still on 13.7. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! A good place to start

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2020-10-06 Thread Carolyn
Of Daniel MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! Well, I respectivly disagree. I am sharing my perspective as a long time iOS beta tester. iOS 14 is different but it deenatly does not suck. Sure, iOS 10 had its share of bugs

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Carolyn
That is what I am hoping. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked

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2020-10-06 Thread Carolyn
Yeah, I would not be wanting to give that up. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chalt...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! I’m not quite following your

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2020-10-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
ctober 6, 2020 9:46 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! > > > > Also we have to always remember that us as blind consumers for apple > reperzent like maybe 1 percent of there market and let’s not forget that > apple’s main job is to make money. It i

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Les Kriegler
, October 6, 2020 10:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Some people always look at the cup as half empty and not half full and to them everything sucks. I must admit, however, that the focus issue in iOS 14 is extremely annoying and in some cases causes huge

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Øyvind Lode
I'm running iOS 14.0.1 and I do not have this problem. I use wifi calling as well and all works fine here on my XR. The only issue I have on iOS 14 is the VO focus bug which is a bit annoying. Apart from that iOS 14 is a pretty good release. I always perform a factory reset of my phone when I have

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
g that they will > make something work in one version and then screw it up in the next version > jmo but if it works then don’t fix it. From Mich. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: October 6, 2020 10:41 AM > To: viphone@googlegrou

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
iOS 14 has many VoiceOver improvement(s). In the early betas, I went exploring in the accessibility settings. I could not say anything, because of the nondisclosure agreement, but since it’s out, image recognition is a game changerer. Their is an app here in Canada called COVID alert. It is

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
& AA MAY Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! I haven’t as yet upgraded to IOS 14. Rather than saying it sucks, perhaps listers could say what is wrong with it so I can then decide whether to upgrade or not? Alison From: vip

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
20 7:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Also we have to always remember that us as blind consumers for apple reperzent like maybe 1 percent of there market and let’s not forget that apple’s main job is to make money. It is all well and good to say yes state this or that

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2020-10-06 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Some people always look at the cup as half empty and not half full and to them everything sucks. I must admit, however, that the focus issue in iOS 14 is extremely annoying and in some cases causes huge accessibility issues. I called Apple Accessibility

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
com On Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! Well, I respectivly disagree. I am sharing my perspective as a long time iOS beta tester. iOS 14 is different but it deenatly does not suck. Sure, iOS 10 h

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Of Mich Verrier Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Also we have to always remember that us as blind consumers for apple reperzent like maybe 1 percent of there market and let’s not forget that apple’s main job is to make money. It is all

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Mich Verrier
in the next version jmo but if it works then don’t fix it. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: October 6, 2020 10:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!! Perhaps if people commented more constructively their opinion would

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Perhaps if people commented more constructively their opinion would be taken more seriously. What on earth IOS sucks is supposed to mean is beyond me! Malcolm Parfitt > On 6 Oct 2020, at 15:35, Gerardo Corripio wrote: > > Just appreciate every day that we’ve talking phones, without needing

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Les Kriegler
Well, I can tell you that iOS 14 has resolved tuition is that I feel are very important. One is the fact that I can use the Mail app again. The focus issues appear to have been resolved. That’s a major improvement. I also use Bluetooth hearing aids which is why I upgraded to iOS 14 in the first

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Devin Prater
Of course they have, at least one totally blind person working there, maybe two. But they're working there to build the stuff, I think. I don't know what they exactly do, but they seem to depend on us a good deal for testing. Devin Prater sent from Gmail. On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:35 AM Gerardo

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2020-10-06 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Just appreciate every day that we’ve talking phones, without needing to, as before, buy separtely a Talks or Mobile Accessibility license. Remember too that software is software, thus it’s very important to have more Beta testers, but overall, for Apple to take more into account feedback from

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Devin Prater
As you probably know, as I'm on the Public Beta User's list, I tested 14 too. I said in my email something like "You know, 14 sucks, 13 sucked, 12 sucked..." meaning people's perception of it, because that's what this is. It doesn't really cuck, unless you have that focus issue, but people come up

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
Well, I respectivly disagree. I am sharing my perspective as a long time iOS beta tester. iOS 14 is different but it deenatly does not suck. Sure, iOS 10 had its share of bugs in the early beta(s), but it got better. iOS 14 has bugs too, as do all software releases, the only way to fix that

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-06 Thread Devin Prater
I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked. I'm starting to see why people hold off on updating until a few release versions into the current year's release. Maybe 14.2 will be better. Devin Prater sent from Gmail. On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:56 AM Jenny Bomareto <

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2020-10-06 Thread chaltain
I’m not quite following your question, but wi-fi calling is when you want to make phone calls and exchange text messaging when you have a weak or no cellular connection. It won’t impact your ability to use data over wi-fi or cellular. If having it on is a problem, I suppose you could turn it

Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-05 Thread Donna Casteen
Hi, Turn off wifi calling. I was having the problem that you described. Turning off wifi calling fixed my problem. Donna Whenever I answer a call like I’m supposed to the call that’s calling does not come through so I have to hang up and call back or like when I was talking to someone a few

RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

2020-10-05 Thread edrew
back up. Andrew From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 9:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!! Hey Jenny, I know it’s a crazy question, Have you shut down / restarted your phone? I had a similar issue

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2020-10-05 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey Jenny, I know it’s a crazy question, Have you shut down / restarted your phone? I had a similar issue with my phone under IOS 13.x and restarting a few times seemed for some reason to fix it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jenny Bomareto Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2020 3:08