RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[michv]

Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: October 26, 2022 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

 

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi,

I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 

I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.

Merv

 

 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
wrote:

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

 

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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough.
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.
Merv



On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

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RE: Outlook mail

[R Van Lant]

I would stick with the native email app if you are comfortable with it.  I've 
started using the Outlook app for work email on my phone and, while it's OK. I 
still prefer the simplicity of the native email app and would not have 
voluntarily started using Outlook, if it weren't required to access my work 
account.  I do love Outlook as an email client on my laptops, though.




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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 10:05 PM
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Subject: Outlook mail

I have never used Outlook on any device ever. I have heard from people who do 
use it say it’s very complicated, and all I want is a Mail app. So I use 
Thunderbird on my computer and iOS mail on my iPhone or iPad. But now I’m 
wondering about Outlook mail. I’ve heard people say it works well. Android and 
iOS. But I just don’t want to get into a big complicated mess. Does anybody 
know of anything anywhere that really sort of describes how you use outlook on 
these platforms?
Mary


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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Gordon]

It seems to be working fine for me as long as I use the two finger 
double tap to start and stop dictation.


On 10/25/2022 6:56 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also 
makes intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the 
dictation is long enough.
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps 
including mail, reminders, and messages.

Merv



On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts 
found that when they try to dictate a message that they loose all 
function  with vo? When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun 
and dubble tap it again that juring the dictation process vo go’s 
scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out of the dictation 
moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.


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Widgets Live Event Postponed

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:
There's an update for anyone who was interested in the free virtual 
event on widgets Mystic Access had scheduled for this Thursday night.


Apparently, both Kim and Chris got hit by a bad bug and the live event 
has had to be postponed and no date for the live event has been set.


Kim said:

"So, here's what we're going to do. Because of how our calendars are 
looking over the next couple weeks, we're going to record this event as 
soon as we're
well enough and put it up on our Free Downloads site so you can listen 
at your convenience."


Margaret

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Re: Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1

[Mary Otten]

Thanks. I’ve tried flicking around to find the darn thing, but then I run into 
all sorts of other stuff that I shouldn’t be running into it if I’m in the app 
switcher. This must be that bug that people have been talking about where the 
app switcher was kind of wonky. I’m not really interested in buying a $350 
specialized device just so I can do this easily, so I hope they fix it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Marco Chan Marco Chan  
> wrote:
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> After updated the latest ios, the voiceOver cursor is not sitting previously 
> using app. What I do is flip one finger left or right until you hear the Zoom 
> app, then perform the closing app action.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: Mary Otten
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> Subject: Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1
>  
> I have an iPad mini, latest model, which I use for zoom meetings among other 
> things. It used to be that I could simply open up the app switcher at the 
> conclusion of a zoom meeting find a zoom in the list of open apps and close 
> it. That’s not working now. Now I actually have to find the leave meeting 
> button in the zoom app itself before I can shut zoom down in the app 
> switcher. It’s kind of annoying, because I really don’t have a good idea 
> where that button is, so I find myself flicking around all over the place 
> looking for it. Is anybody else having this problem
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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.
Merv


> On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
> when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? 
> When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that 
> juring the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you 
> get out of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.
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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[Richard Turner]

Are you talking about text messages?

 

How are you starting the dictation?

How are you stopping the dictation?

 

Having exact steps will make it easier to try to duplicate it.

 

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

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Re: Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I just went to zoom in the app switcher, it said active, and I closed
it using my Hable One keyboard.  No problems.

On 10/25/22, Marco Chan Marco Chan  wrote:
> After updated the latest ios, the voiceOver cursor is not sitting previously
> using app. What I do is flip one finger left or right until you hear the
> Zoom app, then perform the closing app action.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>
>
>
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 3:46 PM
> To: via VIPhone
> Subject: Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1
>
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dictation bug in ios 16.1

[michv]

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo?
When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again
that juring the dictation process vo go's scilent and doesn't come back
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RE: Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1

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After updated the latest ios, the voiceOver cursor is not sitting previously using app. What I do is flip one finger left or right until you hear the Zoom app, then perform the closing app action. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mary OttenSent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 3:46 PMTo: via VIPhoneSubject: Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1 I have an iPad mini, latest model, which I use for zoom meetings among other things. It used to be that I could simply open up the app switcher at the conclusion of a zoom meeting find a zoom in the list of open apps and close it. That’s not working now. Now I actually have to find the leave meeting button in the zoom app itself before I can shut zoom down in the app switcher. It’s kind of annoying, because I really don’t have a good idea where that button is, so I find myself flicking around all over the place looking for it. Is anybody else having this problem Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FABBC3B4-E7A7-49E0-A560-DD9215E13226%40gmail.com. Virus-free.www.avg.com 



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Change in zoom behavior since updating my iPad to 16.1

[Mary Otten]

I have an iPad mini, latest model, which I use for zoom meetings among other 
things. It used to be that I could simply open up the app switcher at the 
conclusion of a zoom meeting find a zoom in the list of open apps and close it. 
That’s not working now. Now I actually have to find the leave meeting button in 
the zoom app itself before I can shut zoom down in the app switcher. It’s kind 
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find myself flicking around all over the place looking for it. Is anybody else 
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Re: shut down sound?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Maria,

Yes, I can confirm the issue you are experiencing. I have an iPhone 14 Pro. The 
start up sound seems to work all the time. The shut down sound seems more 
intermittent.
Best regards,
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RE: found workaround RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[davycuppens]

This really makes sense! Great tip Malcolm 

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Malcolm Parfitt
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 19:26
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: found workaround RE: saved or favorite places nolonger 
accessible within google maps app

 

Hello,

 

I have found the following to work.

 

Do a four finger tap on the screen wich should land you on the Updates tab.

 

You can then swipe left through the available tabs.

 

Hope this helps.

Malcolm Parfitt





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Hi richard 

 

Thanx for your help, I found a solution to toggle VO off hit the very middle 
bottom of the screen and toggle VO bakc again, then you can use the app in a 
normal way and indeed the tab saved places is there again but as you swipe left 
tot he tab named explore, you then have these annoying postings again and you 
can nolonger reach the apps at the bottom of the screen.

But because of your taughts, I gave the toggle VO on/off a try and this helpe 
dus out.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 16:52
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Onderwerp: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps 
app

 

BTW, there was also a couple of Google Maps updates in the last week or so, and 
the Google Maps update may have made those posts larger thus making it harder 
to get to the tabs below them.  It doesn’t have to be Apple’s fault.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

 

Hi Richard 

 

I can it have reproduced by other Belgian inhabitants using voiceover, the 
things you describe are wrong at least here for us.

 

There is nolonger such a tab on the bottom of the screen, the only thing there 
is are posts from other users about places you have visited or nearby places. 
But there nolonger is such a tab. The lower part of the screen is filled up 
with such stupid posts we don’t want to see or interact wit hand tabs at the 
bottom of the screen are nolonger visible.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 14:43
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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app

 

For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at 
the bottom of the screen. 

Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick 
up or down on any favorite you will find more options.

I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver. 

 

 

 

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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Hi folks 

For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, please
do not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen and
voiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places in
the app.
Davy 


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RE: turning off automatic updates

[Carolyn]

All good, Paula! 

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Paula Jordan
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Thanks. Didn’t even think to look in settings under app store. I turned 
automatic updates off. That should do the trick.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

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Stahl
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 11:26 PM
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Subject: Re: turning off automatic updates

 

Try going to settings then app store then making sure that the setting to 
automatically update apps is turned off.  





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Hi all.  I have always had my updates turned off, but since I updated 
to 16.03 all apps are updated automatically.  I want to turn that off. In 
general, and about, I turned off automatic updates, but my apps seem to update 
automatically.  Apparently that setting only applies to the software update.  
How do I turn automatic app updates off?  Probably pretty basic, but I can’t 
figure it out.  Thanks.

God bless!

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Re: found workaround RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

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Hello,I have found the following to work.Do a four finger tap on the screen wich should land you on the Updates tab.You can then swipe left through the available tabs.Hope this helps.Malcolm ParfittOn 25 Oct 2022, at 17:50, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:Hi richard  Thanx for your help, I found a solution to toggle VO off hit the very middle bottom of the screen and toggle VO bakc again, then you can use the app in a normal way and indeed the tab saved places is there again but as you swipe left tot he tab named explore, you then have these annoying postings again and you can nolonger reach the apps at the bottom of the screen.But because of your taughts, I gave the toggle VO on/off a try and this helpe dus out.Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 16:52Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app BTW, there was also a couple of Google Maps updates in the last week or so, and the Google Maps update may have made those posts larger thus making it harder to get to the tabs below them.  It doesn’t have to be Apple’s fault.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app Hi Richard  I can it have reproduced by other Belgian inhabitants using voiceover, the things you describe are wrong at least here for us. There is nolonger such a tab on the bottom of the screen, the only thing there is are posts from other users about places you have visited or nearby places. But there nolonger is such a tab. The lower part of the screen is filled up with such stupid posts we don’t want to see or interact wit hand tabs at the bottom of the screen are nolonger visible.Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 14:43Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: Re: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at the bottom of the screen. Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick up or down on any favorite you will find more options.I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com  On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:00 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:Hi folks For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, pleasedo not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen andvoiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places inthe app.Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/021101d8e858%248ed046d0%24ac70d470%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/75F8E541-A4FF-4D42-B139-A027C825D97F%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V 

Re: ring app issues

[Robin Frost]

Hey Sieghard,

Once you invoke the hamburger menu are you saying VoiceOver is reading 
the various options including settings properly?


As it only does so here when screen recognition is on. Other wise we 
have unlabelled buttons and blankness just VoiceOver clicks under iOS 
16.1 and the latest version of the Ring app.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/25/2022 12:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


No issues here with Ring and iOS 16, make sure he doesn't have screen 
recognition enabled as this can certainly have the effects you describe.


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Hi all:

I’m running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I’m having no 
issues with Ring and Voiceover.


A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same 
version will not read anything but the hamburger menu with Voiceover. 
He’s Reinstalled the Ring app. We are trying to figure out if this is 
on Apple’s end or Ring’s.? I’m suspecting Apple.


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Re: shut down sound?

[Andy Baracco]

Mine seems to work every time.

Andy

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To: "'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:47 AM
Subject: shut down sound?


HI.
Is anyone else experiencing a bug with the shut down sound not always 
working? I am writing for a friend, the shut down sound worked for a while 
and now it won’t.

any ideas?
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found workaround RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[davycuppens]

Hi richard 

 

Thanx for your help, I found a solution to toggle VO off hit the very middle 
bottom of the screen and toggle VO bakc again, then you can use the app in a 
normal way and indeed the tab saved places is there again but as you swipe left 
tot he tab named explore, you then have these annoying postings again and you 
can nolonger reach the apps at the bottom of the screen.

But because of your taughts, I gave the toggle VO on/off a try and this helpe 
dus out.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 16:52
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps 
app

 

BTW, there was also a couple of Google Maps updates in the last week or so, and 
the Google Maps update may have made those posts larger thus making it harder 
to get to the tabs below them.  It doesn’t have to be Apple’s fault.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

 

Hi Richard 

 

I can it have reproduced by other Belgian inhabitants using voiceover, the 
things you describe are wrong at least here for us.

 

There is nolonger such a tab on the bottom of the screen, the only thing there 
is are posts from other users about places you have visited or nearby places. 
But there nolonger is such a tab. The lower part of the screen is filled up 
with such stupid posts we don’t want to see or interact wit hand tabs at the 
bottom of the screen are nolonger visible.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 14:43
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Onderwerp: Re: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps 
app

 

For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at 
the bottom of the screen. 

Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick 
up or down on any favorite you will find more options.

I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver. 

 

 

 

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On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:00 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Hi folks 

For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, please
do not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen and
voiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places in
the app.
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RE: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want

[Jim Portillo]

Thanks Sieghard and Julian for these good suggestions,
Believe it or not, the famous Magic Tap doesn't always do the trick either, 
which is why I resort to going back to the app. But, yes, you are right that 
that gesture does a lot, and I use it quite often!
I guess I will have to write Accessibility, as you mentioned.
Thanks again!
Jim


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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want

Hi Jim,

You should be able to stop playback with a 2-finger double tap and there should 
be no need to remember what app you many have to open to stop it.
But yes, I have had this problem even in iOS 15 especially when using the 
2-finger double tap magic tap) to start/stop dictation. This gesture is 
supposed to do quite a few different things depending on the context, e.g. if 
the phone rings it should pick up the call, if music is playing it should stop 
playback, if you are in an edit field it should start dictation and as you are 
dictating it should stop dicatation. It seems to be a bit like iOS is confused 
as to what the gesture should do inb certain situations which is why instead of 
stopping dictation it starts playback.
You need to write to accessibil...@apple.com and report this so they can start 
figuring out how to fix this.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want

That has never happened to me before.

On 10/24/22, Shirley Tracy  wrote:
> I don’t have a good answer for you, but I’m also having the same thing 
> happening with Audible. And it happens with books I have finished 
> reading but still have in my library. Maybe whoever helps you can also help 
> me.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Shirley Tracy
>
>
>
> From: Jim Portillo
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 6:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> This has been an issue that has been happening for a little while, but 
> it is really beginning to annoy me. I’m not quite sure how to describe it.
>
> I listen to music with the Apple music app. I also have the OoTunes 
> radio app and listen to stations there, along with other radio apps.
> When I’m done with whatever radio or music app I’m using, I’ll stop 
> whatever is playing and close the app.
>
> I could be doing something else on my phone, or maybe even just 
> accidentally bumping the phone, and suddenly, the music or radio from 
> the app comes back up playing. It is really annoying because since the 
> app is technically closed, I have to remember which app it is, open 
> it, stop whatever is playing and close down the app again.
>
> Sometimes, I might be in an app where I may want to dictate something, 
> and if I do a two finger double-tap, the music or radio app might 
> sometimes come up again.
>
> I’ve noticed it happening more lately.
>
> Any idea what could be going on and how I can keep these apps from 
> coming up at any time
>
> This seems to happen when I’m the most careful. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
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RE: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jim,

You should be able to stop playback with a 2-finger double tap and there should 
be no need to remember what app you many have to open to stop it.
But yes, I have had this problem even in iOS 15 especially when using the 
2-finger double tap magic tap) to start/stop dictation. This gesture is 
supposed to do quite a few different things depending on the context, e.g. if 
the phone rings it should pick up the call, if music is playing it should stop 
playback, if you are in an edit field it should start dictation and as you are 
dictating it should stop dicatation. It seems to be a bit like iOS is confused 
as to what the gesture should do inb certain situations which is why instead of 
stopping dictation it starts playback.
You need to write to accessibil...@apple.com and report this so they can start 
figuring out how to fix this.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want

That has never happened to me before.

On 10/24/22, Shirley Tracy  wrote:
> I don’t have a good answer for you, but I’m also having the same thing 
> happening with Audible. And it happens with books I have finished 
> reading but still have in my library. Maybe whoever helps you can also help 
> me.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Shirley Tracy
>
>
>
> From: Jim Portillo
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 6:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Regarding Audio Playing When I Don't Want
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> This has been an issue that has been happening for a little while, but 
> it is really beginning to annoy me. I’m not quite sure how to describe it.
>
> I listen to music with the Apple music app. I also have the OoTunes 
> radio app and listen to stations there, along with other radio apps. 
> When I’m done with whatever radio or music app I’m using, I’ll stop 
> whatever is playing and close the app.
>
> I could be doing something else on my phone, or maybe even just 
> accidentally bumping the phone, and suddenly, the music or radio from 
> the app comes back up playing. It is really annoying because since the 
> app is technically closed, I have to remember which app it is, open 
> it, stop whatever is playing and close down the app again.
>
> Sometimes, I might be in an app where I may want to dictate something, 
> and if I do a two finger double-tap, the music or radio app might 
> sometimes come up again.
>
> I’ve noticed it happening more lately.
>
> Any idea what could be going on and how I can keep these apps from 
> coming up at any time
>
> This seems to happen when I’m the most careful. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
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RE: ring app issues

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No issues here with Ring and iOS 16, make sure he doesn't have screen 
recognition enabled as this can certainly have the effects you describe.


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To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ring app issues

Hi all:
I’m running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I’m having no issues with 
Ring and Voiceover.
A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same version will 
not read anything but the hamburger menu with Voiceover. He’s Reinstalled the 
Ring app. We are trying to figure out if this is on Apple’s end or Ring’s.? I’m 
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Re: turning off automatic updates

[Esther Levegnale]

I did the same thing. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:36 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks. Didn’t even think to look in settings under app store. I turned 
> automatic updates off. That should do the trick.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: turning off automatic updates
>  
> Try going to settings then app store then making sure that the setting to 
> automatically update apps is turned off.  
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all.  I have always had my updates turned off, but since I updated to 
> 16.03 all apps are updated automatically.  I want to turn that off. In 
> general, and about, I turned off automatic updates, but my apps seem to 
> update automatically.  Apparently that setting only applies to the software 
> update.  How do I turn automatic app updates off?  Probably pretty basic, but 
> I can’t figure it out.  Thanks.
> God bless!
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RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[Richard Turner]

BTW, there was also a couple of Google Maps updates in the last week or so, and 
the Google Maps update may have made those posts larger thus making it harder 
to get to the tabs below them.  It doesn’t have to be Apple’s fault.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

 

Hi Richard 

 

I can it have reproduced by other Belgian inhabitants using voiceover, the 
things you describe are wrong at least here for us.

 

There is nolonger such a tab on the bottom of the screen, the only thing there 
is are posts from other users about places you have visited or nearby places. 
But there nolonger is such a tab. The lower part of the screen is filled up 
with such stupid posts we don’t want to see or interact wit hand tabs at the 
bottom of the screen are nolonger visible.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 14:43
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Onderwerp: Re: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps 
app

 

For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at 
the bottom of the screen. 

Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick 
up or down on any favorite you will find more options.

I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver. 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:00 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Hi folks 

For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, please
do not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen and
voiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places in
the app.
Davy 


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RE: turning off automatic updates

[Paula Jordan]

Thanks. Didn’t even think to look in settings under app store. I turned 
automatic updates off. That should do the trick.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 11:26 PM
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Subject: Re: turning off automatic updates

 

Try going to settings then app store then making sure that the setting to 
automatically update apps is turned off.  





On Oct 24, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



Hi all.  I have always had my updates turned off, but since I updated to 16.03 
all apps are updated automatically.  I want to turn that off. In general, and 
about, I turned off automatic updates, but my apps seem to update 
automatically.  Apparently that setting only applies to the software update.  
How do I turn automatic app updates off?  Probably pretty basic, but I can’t 
figure it out.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[davycuppens]

Hi Richard 

 

I can it have reproduced by other Belgian inhabitants using voiceover, the 
things you describe are wrong at least here for us.

 

There is nolonger such a tab on the bottom of the screen, the only thing there 
is are posts from other users about places you have visited or nearby places. 
But there nolonger is such a tab. The lower part of the screen is filled up 
with such stupid posts we don’t want to see or interact wit hand tabs at the 
bottom of the screen are nolonger visible.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 14:43
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps 
app

 

For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at 
the bottom of the screen. 

Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick 
up or down on any favorite you will find more options.

I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver. 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:00 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Hi folks 

For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, please
do not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen and
voiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places in
the app.
Davy 


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RE: turning off automatic updates

[Carolyn]

I have learned that when I think I lose something with an update, to check 
Settings. So, Paula, have you checked settings to see if Automatic Updates is 
on? If it is, of course, then, you can turn it off, and end of problem. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: turning off automatic updates

Hi all.  I have always had my updates turned off, but since I updated to 16.03 
all apps are updated automatically.  I want to turn that off. In general, and 
about, I turned off automatic updates, but my apps seem to update 
automatically.  Apparently that setting only applies to the software update.  
How do I turn automatic app updates off?  Probably pretty basic, but I can’t 
figure it out.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[Richard Turner]

For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at 
the bottom of the screen. 
Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick 
up or down on any favorite you will find more options.
I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver. 



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> On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:00 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi folks 
> 
> For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, please
> do not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen and
> voiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places in
> the app.
> Davy 
> 
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shut down sound?

[Maria Chapman]

HI.
Is anyone else experiencing a bug with the shut down sound not always working? 
I am writing for a friend, the shut down sound worked for a while and now it 
won’t.
any ideas?
Maria

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saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[davycuppens]

Hi folks 

For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, please
do not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen and
voiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places in
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RE: Content of Notifications Not Read On Lock Screen After Updating to 16.1

[davycuppens]

I can confirm this bug.

Sometimes it does sometimes it does not! Please DO all report to accessibility!

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Katrina Anderson
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 4:22
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Onderwerp: Content of Notifications Not Read On Lock Screen After Updating to 
16.1

 

I am thrilled to report things are greatly improved on my iPhone 8 after 
updating to 16.1 (e.g. app switcher & Notification Center work well now), but I 
now have a new problem.

 

I’m alerted to new notifications when the phone is locked, but the notification 
isn’t read; I have to swipe around before voiceover reads the notification.  
This doesn’t happen when the phone is unlocked.  When the phone is unlocked, I 
am alerted to the arrival of a notification, and that is followed by the actual 
notification.  I’ve tried rebooting, and checked settings…all seems okay to me.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Katrina

 

 

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Re: What do eSIMs mean for switching network?

[Angie Nutt]

I, for one, won’t mind switching to Esim and all this looks good. There will 
initially be more sims going into land fill as we have to ditch them; millions 
of them. Hoping someone has a bright idea of how they can be safely destroyed. 
By ’someone’ I don’t mean any of you reading this  though it could make 
for interesting conversation.

All the best
Angie


> On 21 Oct 2022, at 19:34, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> Here is an article that may help.  The link to the source web page is at the 
> end.
>  
> What do eSIMs mean for switching network?
> using phone 
>  
> This is perhaps the key advantage of eSIMs. As it stands switching networks 
> can be fiddly and time-consuming, but eSIMs look set to change all that.
>  
> Because they are rewritable, you can essentially change networks as you 
> please if your carrier supports the tech.
>  
> Best of all, you can store more than one plan on a smartphone's eSIM 
> (although you can only use one at a time), so you can chop and change 
> depending on where you are in the world.
>  
> The hope is that eSIMs will make switching seamless, without the usual fuss 
> of phone calls, demands for PAC numbers and waiting for the switch to take 
> place.
>  
> EE is offering dedicated QR codes which can be scanned to activate eSIM–based 
> accounts.
>  
> Head of eSIM Strategy at Sim Local, Gary Waite, said: "Switching networks 
> today means having to get hold of a new SIM card, either by visiting a retail 
> shop or waiting for one to arrive in the post. Then, it means physically 
> removing the old SIM card from the device (and locating that special tool or 
> bending out a paperclip) then inserting the new one - hoping the new SIM card 
> is the right size for the device! All these steps are tedious enough to put 
> many people off switching networks at all.
>  
> "eSIM turns all of the above into a few simple menu taps. And whilst phones 
> can typically only hold one SIM card, an eSIM-enabled phone can hold several 
> eSIM plans at the same time, with the user easily able to switch between them.
>  
> "Some networks were worried about the advent of eSIM because they felt that 
> churn would rise as a result of the ease of switching. As a matter of fact, 
> customers who look to switch to eSIMs will still need to adhere to pre-pay 
> and post-pay contracts.
>  
> "One key benefit for the consumer with eSIM is when they travel abroad. They 
> can now download a local SIM plan after they arrive at their destination (or 
> even before they get on the plane). As nearly all eSIM-enabled phones also 
> support dual-SIM technology, they can benefit from low cost data and still 
> receive calls from their friends and family on their home number."
>  
> Which networks support eSIMs?
> iphone deal networks
>  
> Major UK networks like EE, VMO2, Vodafone and Three all support eSIMs in some 
> format – although Vodafone's eSIM efforts are still limited to iPad and Apple 
> Watch contracts.
>  
> What are the other advantages that eSIMs offer?
> In terms of current devices, the biggest draw of eSIMs is being able to 
> quickly add a second telephone number to go alongside that's attached to your 
> main SIM card.
>  
> That means that you can have two phone numbers on a single device, which is 
> very handy if you have separate business and personal lines but don’t want to 
> lug around a second phone all the time.
>  
> Then there’s the added bonus for travellers. While cheap roaming is becoming 
> increasingly prevalent, often it pays to have a local number if you’re in a 
> different location for a longer period of time.
>  
> eSIMs mean you can activate a local line on your device without having to go 
> to a local provider and arrange a price plan.
>  
> If your eSIM uses a different network to your standard SIM, you can easily 
> switch between the two. This is especially useful if data coverage is poor on 
> one but not the other.
>  
> On the latest iPhones, you can assign one SIM as the primary line for 
> services like FaceTime and iMessage, while using the other as a secondary SIM 
> for basics such as calls.
>  
> From a design perspective, eSIMs also mean that phones should become even 
> slimmer, with no need for a SIM tray.
>  
> The chips themselves are much smaller than the cards currently used in most 
> phones, leaving mobile manufacturers space to either trim the size of 
> handsets or add other essentials, such as larger batteries.
>  
> As you might expect, Gary Waite of Sim Local sees lots of benefits to eSIMs. 
> According to him, "The SIM card, although it has progressively shrunk in size 
> over the years (mini-SIM to micro-SIM to nano-SIM) is still quite a large 
> component in a mobile device – too large for smaller devices like 
> smartwatches and other wearables. eSIM reduces the hardware requirement down 
> to a chip less than 2mm, therefore opening the door to a whole new range of 
> small device form factors.
>  
> "Even in smartphones, 

Re: ring app issues

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

No I haven't had contact with any one person more than once sadly.

I've contacted both @Amazon and @Ring via email and Twitter via dm and 
have explained the issue at length for months now to no avail as of this 
writing.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/24/2022 9:26 PM, sari.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


I am having no issue. Just spent $250 in Ring equipment so will be 
pissed if accessibility breaks. Do you have a feedback contact?


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Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2022 7:56 PM
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*Subject:* Re: ring app issues

Hi Sarai,

I hesitate to post because I always like to be helpful rather than 
muddying the waters. I can replicate that which your friend reports 
though in my case things got worse once in the hamburger menu and as 
your friend says screen recognition helps but is by no means a full 
solution. I had the issues in iOS15 not just 16 so I don't know that 
it's fair to say it's an Apple issue for if it were it would seem to 
me to be more endemic or system wide rather than app specific. This is 
just my opinion but the Ring app as a whole seems to be regressing in 
terms of accessibility. I've reported these issues to both Amazon and 
Ring so they are known issues and so far no fixes have seemed to be 
forth coming. Speaking strictly for myself in light of this I've begun 
exploring other options that might better serve my use case scenario.


I'm sorry I can't offer any solutions and as I said I hope I haven't 
muddied the waters further. But sometimes it is a comfort to know that 
others can replicate the issues one is experiencing. I wish your 
friend the best of luck should they choose to contact Ring and Amazon 
to join the politely reporting issues advocacy party. 


Take good care,

Robin

On 10/24/2022 7:54 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all:

I’m running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I’m having no
issues with Ring and Voiceover.

A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same
version will not read anything but the hamburger menu with
Voiceover. He’s Reinstalled the Ring app. We are trying to figure
out if this is on Apple’s end or Ring’s.? I’m suspecting Apple.

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Re: 16.1 fixed my Siri issues.

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I updated to 16.1 with no issues.  It was easy.

On 10/24/22, Michelle Hurdt  wrote:
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