RE: Is this a potential security problem?

[Dennis Long]

If you are that paranoid ditch your smart phone get a flip phone and call it a 
day.  I've never heard of this happening.

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Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 4:21 PM
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Subject: Is this a potential security problem?

Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their phones 
stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the mugger from 
snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, and unlocking it with 
Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with an unlocked phone and access to 
all the information contained therein? If a visually impaired person loses 
their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can take the device 
and just wait around and follow the visually impaired person without them 
knowing it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone and get it 
unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not be a bad 
idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York paranoid?

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Re: Unable to rename a playlist in apple music

[Dan Yates]

Kimberly, sorry, what I meant to say was, I was unable to give a name to a new 
play list. W Was getting ready to make a holiday play list and can’t figure out 
how to give it a name. Instead, it’s just the first song on the list that 
appears to be the title.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> Dan, 
> 
> I can't help with the renaming problem as I am still having that same issue 
> myself.  But when you say you are unable to edit a playlist do you mean 
> you’re unable to delete songs? I can help you with that if that’s what you 
> mean.
> 
> In order to remove songs from an existing playlist, first double tap the more 
> button at the top of the screen. Once you have entered the playlist you want 
> to edit. You will then see an edit button and you want to double tap that. Go 
> down to the song that you want to remove and swipe up with one finger. I 
> believe the first option is delete, and if you double tap, that song will be 
> deleted from the playlist.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> Kimberly and others, I am an Apple Music subscriber and have encountered 
>> the same things you’ve described in your message. I can neither edit an 
>> existing playlist or assign a title to a new one. Can anyone help with this?
>> Dan USA
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I think this problem has been around for a couple of iOS releases now.
>>> 
>>> Using voiceover on my iPhone, I am unable to edit/change the title of
>>> playlists. It doesn't matter if it is a playlist I created myself or a
>>> new playlist I am attempting to create. I double tap the field
>>> containing the name of the playlist I am unable to navigate by
>>> character or to delete whatever name is in the field. By positioning
>>> the cursor at the beginning of the field I am able to type additional
>>> characters in front of any existing text, but I can't otherwise edit
>>> the name.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this problem? It makes managing my
>>> playlists really difficult.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any info.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
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Re: Is this a potential security problem?

[doug parisian]

Actually, I much prefer to cut the finger off then attach it to a key 
chain like those rabbit's feet I used to buy in the mid fifties. Wonder 
what happened to the rest of the rabbit?



On 2022-11-16 5:01 p.m., Christopher Chaltain wrote:


Plus attention awareness is on by default, so this person would have 
to know that blind people tend to turn attention awareness off and 
then be able to snatch your phone away from you without you knowing it 
to keep you from just turning your head. I guess technically touch ID 
also isn’t secure, since someone could hit you over the head and then 
press your finger print to the finger print sensor, which come to 
think of it, I see all the time when reading these spy novels.


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Richard Turner

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My initial reaction was that you are being New York paranoid.

It is just as likely that a mugger could wack a blind person on the 
head, and put their finger on the device to unlock it if it has the 
home button.


I've never heard of either thing happening anywhere.

And, good luck to the thief who knows nothing about VoiceOver doing 
anything with the phone. Which leads me to my personal approach. The 
screen curtain is always on unless I need a sighted person's help, or 
want to show them something. So, again, good luck to the person who 
could use face ID to unlock my phone only to find a blank screen and 
something jabbering at them.


Also, if you are holding your phone out in front of you, rather than 
wearing it in a harness for orientation or directions, you are putting 
yourself more at risk.


Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin


My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Steve Matzura 
wrote:

Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and
their phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to
prevent the mugger from snatching the phone, holding the phone up
to their face, and unlocking it with Face ID, then taking off and
disappearing with an unlocked phone and access to all the
information contained therein? If a visually impaired person loses
their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can
take the device and just wait around and follow the visually
impaired person without them knowing it, then, when the time is
right, whip out the phone and get it unlocked without the owner
ever even knowing it happened. Might it not be a bad idea to
disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York paranoid?

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RE: Is this a potential security problem?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Plus attention awareness is on by default, so this person would have to know 
that blind people tend to turn attention awareness off and then be able to 
snatch your phone away from you without you knowing it to keep you from just 
turning your head. I guess technically touch ID also isn’t secure, since 
someone could hit you over the head and then press your finger print to the 
finger print sensor, which come to think of it, I see all the time when reading 
these spy novels.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a potential security problem?

My initial reaction was that you are being New York paranoid.
It is just as likely that a mugger could wack a blind person on the head, and 
put their finger on the device to unlock it if it has the home button.
I've never heard of either thing happening anywhere.
And, good luck to the thief who knows nothing about VoiceOver doing anything 
with the phone. Which leads me to my personal approach. The screen curtain is 
always on unless I need a sighted person's help, or want to show them 
something. So, again, good luck to the person who could use face ID to unlock 
my phone only to find a blank screen and something jabbering at them.
Also, if you are holding your phone out in front of you, rather than wearing it 
in a harness for orientation or directions, you are putting yourself more at 
risk.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Steve Matzura 
mailto:number6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their phones 
stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the mugger from 
snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, and unlocking it with 
Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with an unlocked phone and access to 
all the information contained therein? If a visually impaired person loses 
their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can take the device 
and just wait around and follow the visually impaired person without them 
knowing it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone and get it 
unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not be a bad 
idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York paranoid?

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Re: Is this a potential security problem?

[Jenny Bomareto]

Richard,I thought the exact same thing just as you said a few minutes ago about that guy from New York Meaning From hiss actions he is paranoid.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 16, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:My initial reaction was that you are being New York paranoid.It is just as likely that a mugger could wack a blind person on the head, and put their finger on the device to unlock it if it has the home button.I've never heard of either thing happening anywhere.And, good luck to the thief who knows nothing about VoiceOver doing anything with the phone. Which leads me to my personal approach. The screen curtain is always on unless I need a sighted person's help, or want to show them something. So, again, good luck to the person who could use face ID to unlock my phone only to find a blank screen and something jabbering at them.Also, if you are holding your phone out in front of you, rather than wearing it in a harness for orientation or directions, you are putting yourself more at risk.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Nov 16, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the mugger from snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, and unlocking it with Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with an unlocked phone and access to all the information contained therein? If a visually impaired person loses their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can take the device and just wait around and follow the visually impaired person without them knowing it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone and get it unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not be a bad idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York paranoid?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/fb256919-01d4-0f51-97ec-7b392e036ff8%40gmail.com.



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Re: Is this a potential security problem?

[Richard Turner]

My initial reaction was that you are being New York paranoid.
It is just as likely that a mugger could wack a blind person on the head, and 
put their finger on the device to unlock it if it has the home button.
I've never heard of either thing happening anywhere.
And, good luck to the thief who knows nothing about VoiceOver doing anything 
with the phone. Which leads me to my personal approach. The screen curtain is 
always on unless I need a sighted person's help, or want to show them 
something. So, again, good luck to the person who could use face ID to unlock 
my phone only to find a blank screen and something jabbering at them.
Also, if you are holding your phone out in front of you, rather than wearing it 
in a harness for orientation or directions, you are putting yourself more at 
risk.





Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their phones 
> stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the mugger from 
> snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, and unlocking it 
> with Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with an unlocked phone and 
> access to all the information contained therein? If a visually impaired 
> person loses their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can 
> take the device and just wait around and follow the visually impaired person 
> without them knowing it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone and 
> get it unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not 
> be a bad idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York 
> paranoid?
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Is this a potential security problem?

[Steve Matzura]

Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their 
phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the 
mugger from snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, and 
unlocking it with Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with an 
unlocked phone and access to all the information contained therein? If a 
visually impaired person loses their phone, this is not an unlikely 
scenario as the mugger can take the device and just wait around and 
follow the visually impaired person without them knowing it, then, when 
the time is right, whip out the phone and get it unlocked without the 
owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not be a bad idea to 
disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York paranoid?


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Re: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

[Barbara Stahl]

Just use the one finger slide up gesture that was discussed in previous emails 
in this thread that will get you to the app switcher and the three finger swipe 
up should close apps for you once you focus on them in the app switcher

> On Nov 16, 2022, at 2:37 PM, Rena  wrote:
> 
> 
> In ios 15 it worked out fine, but in 16 it doesn’t. When I do 3 fingers up 
> nothing happens, and I only hear a noise. I never hear or feel any vibration.
> What can I do?
>  
> Rena
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 11:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?
>  
> It is, and this is still working for me since I moved up to IOS 16. Was it 
> working for you with IOS 15? If so then you shouldn’t be doing anything 
> wrong, since it should work exactly the same. Put your finger at the very 
> bottom of the screen and then move it up until you feel the second vibration. 
> Lift your
> Finger, and you should be in the App Switcher. When you try this gesture, 
> what are you getting?
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?
>  
> Hello
>  
> Since I have iOS 16 this command is not working for me, or perhaps am I doing 
> anything wrong?
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RE: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

[Rena]

In ios 15 it worked out fine, but in 16 it doesn’t. When I do 3 fingers up 
nothing happens, and I only hear a noise. I never hear or feel any vibration.

What can I do?

 

Rena

 

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Subject: RE: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

 

It is, and this is still working for me since I moved up to IOS 16. Was it 
working for you with IOS 15? If so then you shouldn’t be doing anything wrong, 
since it should work exactly the same. Put your finger at the very bottom of 
the screen and then move it up until you feel the second vibration. Lift your 

Finger, and you should be in the App Switcher. When you try this gesture, what 
are you getting?

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Hello

 

Since I have iOS 16 this command is not working for me, or perhaps am I doing 
anything wrong?

 

Rena

 

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RE: Auto Speaker not coming on with phone calls.

[Carolyn]

I tried restarting. It ended up that I had to go to Accessibillity, Touch, and 
Speaker and Automatic. It was on when I was on the last phone call. 

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Subject: Re: Auto Speaker not coming on with phone calls.

Have you tried restarting your phone that can often fix a lot of problems just 
ignore this if you have already tried it I deleted the previous messages and 
cannot remember if that is something that you tried or not good luck


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I have checked Settings. 

 

In Accessibility and Voiceover and Audio, Auto Speaker is on. 

 

I called Apple Accessibility. That representative might have been on 
the third tier - got me to go to Audio Ducking Speaker. That does not work 
either. I have written Apple Accessibility. 

 

I decided to be persistent, since this could be a 16,1 problem, and I 
would prefer it not be a problem for me or others on the next update. 

 



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Re: Auto Speaker not coming on with phone calls.

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Have you tried restarting your phone that can often fix a lot of problems just 
ignore this if you have already tried it I deleted the previous messages and 
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Re: Unable to rename a playlist in apple music

[Kimberly]

Dan, 

I can't help with the renaming problem as I am still having that same issue 
myself.  But when you say you are unable to edit a playlist do you mean you’re 
unable to delete songs? I can help you with that if that’s what you mean.

In order to remove songs from an existing playlist, first double tap the more 
button at the top of the screen. Once you have entered the playlist you want to 
edit. You will then see an edit button and you want to double tap that. Go down 
to the song that you want to remove and swipe up with one finger. I believe the 
first option is delete, and if you double tap, that song will be deleted from 
the playlist.



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> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
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> Kimberly and others, I am an Apple Music subscriber and have encountered the 
> same things you’ve described in your message. I can neither edit an existing 
> playlist or assign a title to a new one. Can anyone help with this?
> Dan USA
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I think this problem has been around for a couple of iOS releases now.
>> 
>> Using voiceover on my iPhone, I am unable to edit/change the title of
>> playlists. It doesn't matter if it is a playlist I created myself or a
>> new playlist I am attempting to create. I double tap the field
>> containing the name of the playlist I am unable to navigate by
>> character or to delete whatever name is in the field. By positioning
>> the cursor at the beginning of the field I am able to type additional
>> characters in front of any existing text, but I can't otherwise edit
>> the name.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a solution for this problem? It makes managing my
>> playlists really difficult.
>> 
>> Thanks for any info.
>> 
>> Kim
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RE: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

[tai.tomasi8]

Thank you for this detailed update. I look forward to trying this app.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

 

A bit of an update about Cellar Tracker.

 

After about 1 day’s use, I can say it is mostly accessible and I guess fully 
accessible if you are patient and willing to work at it.  They are working on 
the app so they love getting feedback that could help them make the new app 
better and more accessible than it already is.

 

The support is absolutely wonderful!  I’ve written back and forth several times 
and after my first note, it didn’t take 30 minutes to get a helpful reply.

 

They even helped me find a wine to add that I couldn’t find in their database, 
but with only a partially correct name, they found it for me so I could add it. 
 

 

Some issues I’ve noticed is that once you enter a wine, if you entered the 
wrong number of bottles, you seemingly have to use the web site to change that 
and changing it is anything but easy.

 

Once you find the wine through the web site in your cellar, and find the edit 
link; you have to really hunt for the “Add a bottle to my cellar.” Link and 
that adds one bottle.  IN my case, I bought 4 bottles to use over the holidays 
but since the field labels on the web site were not really clear, I put the 4 
in the note field instead of the quantity.  So it showed 1.

Using the ad a bottle to my cellar link, increased it to 2.  So, after hitting 
that link 2 more times, I had the correct number.  Then there was a save and 
done button…

 

I let them know that a simple edit button that would allow you to enter the 
number or change the number just like when you first enter the wine would be 
easier for everyone, not just screen reader users.

 

I have not gotten a picture of a label to work, but that is not surprising to 
me.  You really have to be in focus for that to work.

 

I will try to find some bar codes and see if that works, but there again, they 
have a specific box you need to line the bar code up with in order for that to 
work.

 

I’m only using the free account.  I have not checked into the cost since I 
simply want a way to track what is in our cellar/basement, which is where our 
wine is stored.

 

So far, this is easily the best app/web site I have found for tracking wines.

 

Yes, a spreadsheet would work, but this is/will be much easier once I get 
everything set up.

 

Later,

 

 

Richard, USA.

You found a piano stool. I always thought pianos were housebroken?

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

 

Cool! I’m interested in this as well. A few years ago, I heard about an app on 
a ezine I’m subscribed to, which had this cool feature where you could add a 
wine to your list just by pointing the camera at the label on the bottle, but 
sadly it wasn’t accessible. I didn’t do much more looking at the time, but I’m 
definitely interested in trying out this app.

 

BTW, I agree with your wine shop when it comes to oaky chardonnays, and for 
myself, I’m partial to malbecs from South America and sauvignon Blancs from New 
Zealand.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

 

 

 

Hello,

I have started a new thread from the previous one concerning accessible wine 
tracking apps.

 

Cellar Tracker on first glance is quite accessible.  

I wrote and gave them some feedback about the picker item for the area you want 
to searhc or add to, and I have to give them a gold star for responsiveness.

Wihtin 30 minutes I had a detailed reply.

They have just been building their app and no there are some things to improve 
and add.

The fact that they addressed my comments in detail, gave me both their classic 
web site and their modern web site links to try with the screen reader and let 
me know they are working on a completely new app that he hopes will be fully 
accessible, makes me extremelypositive about this company.

 

And this is just using the free app so far.

 

I have not done a lot yet, so stay tuend after I have enter a lot of wines, etc.

 

Later,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com 

RE: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

[Richard Turner]

A bit of an update about Cellar Tracker.

 

After about 1 day’s use, I can say it is mostly accessible and I guess fully 
accessible if you are patient and willing to work at it.  They are working on 
the app so they love getting feedback that could help them make the new app 
better and more accessible than it already is.

 

The support is absolutely wonderful!  I’ve written back and forth several times 
and after my first note, it didn’t take 30 minutes to get a helpful reply.

 

They even helped me find a wine to add that I couldn’t find in their database, 
but with only a partially correct name, they found it for me so I could add it. 
 

 

Some issues I’ve noticed is that once you enter a wine, if you entered the 
wrong number of bottles, you seemingly have to use the web site to change that 
and changing it is anything but easy.

 

Once you find the wine through the web site in your cellar, and find the edit 
link; you have to really hunt for the “Add a bottle to my cellar.” Link and 
that adds one bottle.  IN my case, I bought 4 bottles to use over the holidays 
but since the field labels on the web site were not really clear, I put the 4 
in the note field instead of the quantity.  So it showed 1.

Using the ad a bottle to my cellar link, increased it to 2.  So, after hitting 
that link 2 more times, I had the correct number.  Then there was a save and 
done button…

 

I let them know that a simple edit button that would allow you to enter the 
number or change the number just like when you first enter the wine would be 
easier for everyone, not just screen reader users.

 

I have not gotten a picture of a label to work, but that is not surprising to 
me.  You really have to be in focus for that to work.

 

I will try to find some bar codes and see if that works, but there again, they 
have a specific box you need to line the bar code up with in order for that to 
work.

 

I’m only using the free account.  I have not checked into the cost since I 
simply want a way to track what is in our cellar/basement, which is where our 
wine is stored.

 

So far, this is easily the best app/web site I have found for tracking wines.

 

Yes, a spreadsheet would work, but this is/will be much easier once I get 
everything set up.

 

Later,

 

Richard, USA.

You found a piano stool. I always thought pianos were housebroken?

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

 

Cool! I’m interested in this as well. A few years ago, I heard about an app on 
a ezine I’m subscribed to, which had this cool feature where you could add a 
wine to your list just by pointing the camera at the label on the bottle, but 
sadly it wasn’t accessible. I didn’t do much more looking at the time, but I’m 
definitely interested in trying out this app.

 

BTW, I agree with your wine shop when it comes to oaky chardonnays, and for 
myself, I’m partial to malbecs from South America and sauvignon Blancs from New 
Zealand.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Cellar Tracker for tracking wine

 

 

 

Hello,

I have started a new thread from the previous one concerning accessible wine 
tracking apps.

 

Cellar Tracker on first glance is quite accessible.  

I wrote and gave them some feedback about the picker item for the area you want 
to searhc or add to, and I have to give them a gold star for responsiveness.

Wihtin 30 minutes I had a detailed reply.

They have just been building their app and no there are some things to improve 
and add.

The fact that they addressed my comments in detail, gave me both their classic 
web site and their modern web site links to try with the screen reader and let 
me know they are working on a completely new app that he hopes will be fully 
accessible, makes me extremelypositive about this company.

 

And this is just using the free app so far.

 

I have not done a lot yet, so stay tuend after I have enter a lot of wines, etc.

 

Later,

Richard, USA.

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RE: Discord

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Somebody simply asked how they can reset their password and since iOS apps and 
their usage with Voiceover are often discussed here I don't see what is wrong 
with the question about the discord app.
People constantly ask questions about Facebook, WhatsApp, the weather app and 
many others and the discord social platform and app are no different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Teresa 
Christian
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

I feel like I am being the one who is thick here.

Why are we even talking about logging into Discord?

Does this email list have a connection to Discord that we all are supposed to 
know about?

Hope you are having a fabulous day!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

Alex,
Go to the discord login site and select forgot password. Then input your email, 
leave the password field blank. You will then get an email with instructions on 
how to reset password.

Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Discord

Password is i n settings, but you have to know the old password in order to 
change it.
Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Nov 2022, at 21:59, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
 Hi,
If you’re doing this on the iPhone app, go to the app, followed by settings, 
followed by account, and password is there. Alternatively, you can go to the 
browser and select forgot my password option.

https://discord.com/login!
Feliciano
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On Nov 15, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Alex Stone 
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Do we have any discord experts in here, I’ve forgotten my password, and there 
doesn’t seem to be any option for forgotten passwords anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Discord

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A Google search for "What is discord" shows the following:

Discord | Your Place to Talk and Hang Out
https://discord.com
About this Result
Discord is the easiest way to talk over voice, video, and text. Talk, chat, 
hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

I never heard of Discord, have no idea in the world what it is. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

I feel like I am being the one who is thick here.

 

Why are we even talking about logging into Discord?

 

Does this email list have a connection to Discord that we all are supposed to 
know about?

 

Hope you are having a fabulous day!

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

 

Alex,

Go to the discord login site and select forgot password. Then input your email, 
leave the password field blank. You will then get an email with instructions on 
how to reset password.

 

Feliciano 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Password is i n settings, but you have to know the old password in order to 
change it.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 15 Nov 2022, at 21:59, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Hi, 

If you’re doing this on the iPhone app, go to the app, followed by 
settings, followed by account, and password is there. Alternatively, you can go 
to the browser and select forgot my password option.

 

https://discord.com/login!

Feliciano 

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On Nov 15, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Alex Stone 
mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Do we have any discord experts in here, I’ve forgotten my 
password, and there doesn’t seem to be any option for forgotten passwords 
anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A couple of small correction here:

"As your finger slides upward, three distinct vibrations will be felt, and if 
sound effects are turned on, three rising tones will be heard. The first of 
these is the Home Screen, the second I forgot, and the third is the App 
Switcher"
There are no 3 options here, you have home screen with the first and app 
switcher with the second.
When you place your finger at the bottom there is a tone, this would be the 
first, but there is no vibration. Second tone and first vibration is home 
screen and if you swipe up further you get a third tone and a second vibration 
and that is app switcher.

"Since iOS 15, the App Switcher now shows two views of open applications. One 
is a read-only list, the other contains actionable items"
I believe you may refer to the initial bug in iOS 16 which showed some apps 
twice in the app switcher, but if you have updated to iOS 16.1 this is no 
longer the case. I am running the iOS 16.2 public beta, but even before I 
upgraded I never had two "views", I have a list of open apps and while some say 
"active" and some say nothing that doesn't mean I can't close those which don't 
say "active" by swiping up. And yes, you can swipe up with 3 fingers to close 
an application or you can flick up or down and Voiceover will say Close 
followed by the name of the app, e.g. "Close Mail". You can then double tap and 
the app will close. If you want to close multiple apps once you are on "close" 
and double tap the next app will slide in and you can simply continue to double 
tap since it remains on the "close" setting.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?


You're both talking at cross-purposes.



1. To engage the App Switcher, place one finger at the bottom center of the 
screen and swipe up quickly. As your finger slides upward, three distinct 
vibrations will be felt, and if sound effects are turned on, three rising tones 
will be heard. The first of these is the Home Screen, the second I forgot, and 
the third is the App Switcher.



2. Since iOS 15, the App Switcher now shows two views of open applications. One 
is a read-only list, the other contains actionable items. If you want to close 
an open application, find it in the list of items where VoiceOver actually says 
"Active," then swipe up with three fingers to close it. This is the 
three-finger gesture about which you are asking.


On 11/15/2022 11:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
It is, and this is still working for me since I moved up to IOS 16. Was it 
working for you with IOS 15? If so then you shouldn’t be doing anything wrong, 
since it should work exactly the same. Put your finger at the very bottom of 
the screen and then move it up until you feel the second vibration. Lift your
Finger, and you should be in the App Switcher. When you try this gesture, what 
are you getting?
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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:34 AM
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Subject: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

Hello

Since I have iOS 16 this command is not working for me, or perhaps am I doing 
anything wrong?

Rena

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RE: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is unchanged in iOS 16

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

So I still have an iphone 8, but I know someone with an iphone 10 r.  This 
phone is running ios 15 and with it the second tone is the home screen and the 
third is the  app switcher.  So is this no longer the case with ios 16?


On Nov 16, 2022, at 8:00 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:


You're both talking at cross-purposes.



1. To engage the App Switcher, place one finger at the bottom center of the 
screen and swipe up quickly. As your finger slides upward, three distinct 
vibrations will be felt, and if sound effects are turned on, three rising tones 
will be heard. The first of these is the Home Screen, the second I forgot, and 
the third is the App Switcher.



2. Since iOS 15, the App Switcher now shows two views of open applications. One 
is a read-only list, the other contains actionable items. If you want to close 
an open application, find it in the list of items where VoiceOver actually says 
"Active," then swipe up with three fingers to close it. This is the 
three-finger gesture about which you are asking.


On 11/15/2022 11:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
It is, and this is still working for me since I moved up to IOS 16. Was it 
working for you with IOS 15? If so then you shouldn’t be doing anything wrong, 
since it should work exactly the same. Put your finger at the very bottom of 
the screen and then move it up until you feel the second vibration. Lift your
Finger, and you should be in the App Switcher. When you try this gesture, what 
are you getting?
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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:34 AM
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Subject: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

Hello

Since I have iOS 16 this command is not working for me, or perhaps am I doing 
anything wrong?

Rena

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Re: text replacement question

[Julian]

Same here, there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to it. It just works in most places, but sometimes not in others. Thankfully though, it least for me, it works in more places than not.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 16, 2022, at 1:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







No, there are certain sites where shortcuts just don't seem to work. I have no explanation, but that is simply a fact.
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: text replacement question


 
If that is the case, hit space and it should come up.

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Nov 14, 2022, at 6:59 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:




 
Hi,
I have set up a text replacement for my two primary email addresses, given how often we are asked to enter an email on a website or login screen.  It often works, but I have found times when hitting my three letter shortcut doesn’t’ work. 
 Usually I’ll hear the little bubble sound as soon as I type the last letter and the replacement option is there.  Do you think that certain websites or apps have disabled this as an option?    My work email address, in particular, is annoying to type on a
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RE: Discord

[Carolyn]

I never heard of Discord, have no idea in the world what it is. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

I feel like I am being the one who is thick here.

 

Why are we even talking about logging into Discord?

 

Does this email list have a connection to Discord that we all are supposed to 
know about?

 

Hope you are having a fabulous day!

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

 

Alex,

Go to the discord login site and select forgot password. Then input your email, 
leave the password field blank. You will then get an email with instructions on 
how to reset password.

 

Feliciano 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Password is i n settings, but you have to know the old password in order to 
change it.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 15 Nov 2022, at 21:59, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Hi, 

If you’re doing this on the iPhone app, go to the app, followed by 
settings, followed by account, and password is there. Alternatively, you can go 
to the browser and select forgot my password option.

 

https://discord.com/login!

Feliciano 

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Do we have any discord experts in here, I’ve forgotten my 
password, and there doesn’t seem to be any option for forgotten passwords 
anywhere.

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RE: Discord

[Teresa Christian]

I feel like I am being the one who is thick here.

 

Why are we even talking about logging into Discord?

 

Does this email list have a connection to Discord that we all are supposed to 
know about?

 

Hope you are having a fabulous day!

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Discord

 

Alex,

Go to the discord login site and select forgot password. Then input your email, 
leave the password field blank. You will then get an email with instructions on 
how to reset password.

 

Feliciano 

 

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Stone
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Discord

 

Password is i n settings, but you have to know the old password in order to 
change it.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 15 Nov 2022, at 21:59, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Hi, 

If you’re doing this on the iPhone app, go to the app, followed by settings, 
followed by account, and password is there. Alternatively, you can go to the 
browser and select forgot my password option.

 

https://discord.com/login!

Feliciano 

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On Nov 15, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Do we have any discord experts in here, I’ve forgotten my password, and there 
doesn’t seem to be any option for forgotten passwords anywhere.

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Re: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

[Barbara Stahl]

So I still have an iphone 8, but I know someone with an iphone 10 r.  This 
phone is running ios 15 and with it the second tone is the home screen and the 
third is the  app switcher.  So is this no longer the case with ios 16?  

> On Nov 16, 2022, at 8:00 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> 
> You're both talking at cross-purposes.
> 
> 
> 
> 1. To engage the App Switcher, place one finger at the bottom center of the 
> screen and swipe up quickly. As your finger slides upward, three distinct 
> vibrations will be felt, and if sound effects are turned on, three rising 
> tones will be heard. The first of these is the Home Screen, the second I 
> forgot, and the third is the App Switcher.
> 
> 
> 
> 2. Since iOS 15, the App Switcher now shows two views of open applications. 
> One is a read-only list, the other contains actionable items. If you want to 
> close an open application, find it in the list of items where VoiceOver 
> actually says "Active," then swipe up with three fingers to close it. This is 
> the three-finger gesture about which you are asking.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/15/2022 11:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> It is, and this is still working for me since I moved up to IOS 16. Was it 
>> working for you with IOS 15? If so then you shouldn’t be doing anything 
>> wrong, since it should work exactly the same. Put your finger at the very 
>> bottom of the screen and then move it up until you feel the second 
>> vibration. Lift your
>> Finger, and you should be in the App Switcher. When you try this gesture, 
>> what are you getting?
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>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?
>>  
>> Hello
>>  
>> Since I have iOS 16 this command is not working for me, or perhaps am I 
>> doing anything wrong?
>>  
>> Rena
>> 
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Re: To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

[Steve Matzura]

You're both talking at cross-purposes.


1. To engage the App Switcher, place one finger at the bottom center of 
the screen and swipe up quickly. As your finger slides upward, three 
distinct vibrations will be felt, and if sound effects are turned on, 
three rising tones will be heard. The first of these is the Home Screen, 
the second I forgot, and the third is the App Switcher.



2. Since iOS 15, the App Switcher now shows two views of open 
applications. One is a read-only list, the other contains actionable 
items. If you want to close an open application, find it in the list of 
items where VoiceOver actually says "Active," then swipe up with three 
fingers to close it. This is the three-finger gesture about which you 
are asking.



On 11/15/2022 11:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


It is, and this is still working for me since I moved up to IOS 16. 
Was it working for you with IOS 15? If so then you shouldn’t be doing 
anything wrong, since it should work exactly the same. Put your finger 
at the very bottom of the screen and then move it up until you feel 
the second vibration. Lift your


Finger, and you should be in the App Switcher. When you try this 
gesture, what are you getting?


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Rena

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:34 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* To use app switcher is still 3-finger swipe up?

Hello

Since I have iOS 16 this command is not working for me, or perhaps am 
I doing anything wrong?


Rena




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Re: What can I do about "Haptic touch"?

[Steve Matzura]

Haptic touch is back? Yah-hoo! My 14 Pro Max is on its way, and now I 
really can't wait! Have missed it since the demise of my 8.



On 11/13/2022 11:36 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi,

 After a long time of suffering with 3d touch on my old iPhone 8, I managed 
to turn it off, but now, on my 14 Pro, I have Haptic touch, which I don't seem 
to be able to turn off. I find it affects my typing when using the onboard 
keyboard! Can anyone offer advice?

Thanks, Sandy.


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Re: Difficulty in adding signature in my mail

[Bill Gallik]

Jenny’s answer is certainly correct, but I want to add that getting into the 
edit field to key in your desired signature can be tricky at times.  I have two 
e-mail accounts so I have two signature blocks and there are times I find 
getting into the edit fields can be challenging.  This doesn’t always happen, 
but I have gotten into the habit of making quite certain I am in the bottom of 
each accounts signature area before carrying on.

I should add that I’m frequently modifying my signatures because I include the 
iOS version in those signature tags.

I only mention this response so Ketan will realize he is not doing anything 
wrong; sometimes, editing those signatures is just plain difficult!


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight,"
- "and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world."
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Re: Difficulty in adding signature in my mail

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Ketan,

How I did it was go to settings, mail, then swipe right or keyboard equivalent 
all the way down to signature and double tap. Now you may have options to set 
up individual ones or keep it for all accounts. Now swipe right to a text 
field. Here, you double tap to start editing. Then you can type it in.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Nov 16, 2022, at 12:26 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
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> Hi friends,
> 
> I have configured my rediffmail pro account on my Iphone 13 pro using
> native mail app.  I am unable to set up my signature.  I have tried
> this through settings.  Could anyone please help?  I will be truly
> grateful.
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Ketan
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