Re: ios 17 release tomorrow

[alban hoxha]

thanks for info.

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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 1:59:58 AM
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Subject: ios 17 release tomorrow

Hi,
I have the rc ios 17 downloaded.  Is there anything I have to do to make it go 
to the public release tomorrow.
Jen

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Re: iOS17 text tones

[Robert Doc Wright]

I can make practically any type tone for you for the cost of two smiles!
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Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones


I have a tone for texts, but not the original one, one that has a pretty 
good ring for my not so good ears.

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 2:52 PM
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I think there are plenty which can be heard even if you have some hearing 
loss and of course there are still the classic tones and if still nothing 
suits then  you can add your own.

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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 1:11 AM
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Thanks for this preview.  Those text tones really suck in my opinion.
Most of them are so low, you can barely hear them.  I'd never use most of 
them to let me know of an incoming message because you'd never know you 
received one because of how low the tones are.  Not cool!!!

On 9/17/23, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3
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ios 17 release tomorrow

[Jen .]

Hi,
I have the rc ios 17 downloaded.  Is there anything I have to do to make it go 
to the public release tomorrow.
Jen

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RE: iOS17 text tones

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a tone for texts, but not the original one, one that has a pretty good 
ring for my not so good ears. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 2:52 PM
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Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

I think there are plenty which can be heard even if you have some hearing loss 
and of course there are still the classic tones and if still nothing suits then 
 you can add your own. 

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Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 1:11 AM
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Subject: Re: iOS17 text tones

Thanks for this preview.  Those text tones really suck in my opinion.
Most of them are so low, you can barely hear them.  I'd never use most of them 
to let me know of an incoming message because you'd never know you received one 
because of how low the tones are.  Not cool!!!

On 9/17/23, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3
> *
> When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that 
> first
>
> step toward perfection!
>
> __
> Family times theatre
> http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
>
> Ask your smart speaker to play Family times on TuneIn
> -
> Bowling league sponsorship
> We are making hedways . We've conquered the bowling dues now to 
> capture the
>
> transportation.
>  If 30 people donate $10 we can make this goal and then some.
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/recreational-bowling?utm_source=customer
> m_medium=copy_link_campaign=p_cp_guide_do=27036989
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Re: Video calling on WhatsApp with an iPhone

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Marie, OK to make a phone call on WhatsApp video call open WhatsApp, and 
then along the bottom you’ll see three or four tabs on the bottom of the screen 
double tap on the tab that says chat and then swipe to the right you will find 
an edit field double tap on there and enter the information that you want and 
then when you swipe back to the left, there should be a done button and then 
when you go up to the home screen on WhatsApp, double tap on the contact and 
then you’ll see two options one that says video and one that says audio. These 
are on the top of the screen on the left-hand side if you have any more 
questions, feel free to ask.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never wanted to make a video call for obvious reasons. But now I want 
> to be able to make one to some sighted folks, and I would like to do a video 
> call, so I can show them stuff. I can’t figure out how to do it. I read some 
> thing from a Google search that says go to the chat screen and near the top 
> there should be a video button. I did not see that. So, does anybody know how 
> to do this? I have successfully made several audio calls to these people, but 
> I don’t know how to make a video call. The default is clearly audio. All help 
> gratefully appreciated.
> Mary 
> 
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>  hi marryOK to make a video call on WhatsApp I’m using voice over on an 
> iPhone there are tabs along the bottom of screen. One of the tabs is chat, so 
> you double tap on that you enter in who you want to chat with find the number 
> what have you and then once you do that you’ll see that on the top of the 
> screen you’ll see audio button and video button double tap on video button 
> and then the call starts. Let me know if you need me to walk you through it 
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Video calling on WhatsApp with an iPhone

[Mary Otten]

I have never wanted to make a video call for obvious reasons. But now I want to 
be able to make one to some sighted folks, and I would like to do a video call, 
so I can show them stuff. I can’t figure out how to do it. I read some thing 
from a Google search that says go to the chat screen and near the top there 
should be a video button. I did not see that. So, does anybody know how to do 
this? I have successfully made several audio calls to these people, but I don’t 
know how to make a video call. The default is clearly audio. All help 
gratefully appreciated.
Mary 

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Re: iOS17 text tones

[Robert Doc Wright]

I am trying welcome

  - Original Message - 
  From: mi...@eastlink.ca
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  Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 8:57 AM
  Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones


  Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are 
droplit and antick. From Mich.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
  Sent: September 17, 2023 10:35 AM
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  Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system 
notification tone.  It is barely audible.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
  Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 3:01 AM
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  http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3

  *
  When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that 
first step toward perfection!



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  http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream



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RE: lockscreen.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is a simple and short answer, you cannot.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alban 
hoxha
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 11:04 AM
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Subject: lockscreen.

hi.
how can remove flashlight and cammera from lockscreen?
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RE: iOS17 text tones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think there are plenty which can be heard even if you have some hearing loss 
and of course there are still the classic tones and if still nothing suits then 
 you can add your own. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 1:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS17 text tones

Thanks for this preview.  Those text tones really suck in my opinion.
Most of them are so low, you can barely hear them.  I'd never use most of them 
to let me know of an incoming message because you'd never know you received one 
because of how low the tones are.  Not cool!!!

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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

[William James]

It was professional in its response.  Yeah, true, I was nasty with it but it’s 
AI so it has no feelings.  Hahaha!  I’m normally a nice guy but sometimes I’m 
not and it shows as I age.


Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of CHELA 
Robles 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 7:11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what 
its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:



Ugg.

I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed 
and re-opened the app and fictures worked.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was 
open for us to peruse and report issues.





I’ll give you an example.



I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it 
could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it 
that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better!



Get Outlook for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
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Hello,



There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.



The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then 
stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something 
to do with Open AI themselves.



I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike 
anything we’ve ever known!



Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to 
shame!



Take a look at:







Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game 
Changing Real-World Use 
Cases

applevis.com







Malcolm Parfitt



On 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man 
with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture 
of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I 
wrote to complain about that.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)



On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles 
mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:



I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.



Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:



sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last 
time. Here is the email address again to write into.

supp...@bemyeyes.com



On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader 
mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:



I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think 
a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my 
eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think 
maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're 
letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as 
you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by 
doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away 
and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have 
removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all 
be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people 
it's very disrespectful and discriminatory.

Best regards.

Jerry Mader



On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr 
mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in describing 
pictures... and now all of a sudden 

Re: iOS17 text tones

[Gerardo Corripio]

For those with Whatsapp, will some of these new chimes work with Whatsapp for individual chats or groups? Especially the welcome one sounds awesome!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 17 sep 2023, a la(s) 11:51 a.m., Dennis Long  escribió:I will write tomorrow.  I have them on my device they absolutely suck.  The new system notification tone can barely be heard. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 11:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: iOS17 text tones I hope everyone is writing to accessibil...@apple.com and pointing out that anyone with a slight hearing loss, not to mention everyone else, will struggle to hear many of these tones.Once I install iOS 17 tomorrow, I will do the same.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.caSent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 7:58 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: iOS17 text tones Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are droplit and antick. From Mich.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: September 17, 2023 10:35 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: iOS17 text tones Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification tone.  It is barely audible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 3:01 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: iOS17 text tones http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3*When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step toward perfection! __Family times theatre http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream Ask your smart speaker to play Family times on TuneIn-Bowling league sponsorshipWe are making hedways . We've conquered the bowling dues now to capture the transportation. If 30 people donate $10 we can make this goal and then some.https://www.gofundme.com/f/recreational-bowling?utm_source=customer_medium=copy_link_campaign=p_cp_guide_do=27036989 Cash App$godfearer77-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004701d9e934%24c29c88b0%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005d01d9e974%241a76ed20%244f64c760%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit 

lockscreen.

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hi.
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RE: iOS17 text tones

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I will write tomorrow.  I have them on my device they absolutely suck.  The new 
system notification tone can barely be heard.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
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I hope everyone is writing to accessibil...@apple.com 
  and pointing out that anyone with a slight 
hearing loss, not to mention everyone else, will struggle to hear many of these 
tones.
Once I install iOS 17 tomorrow, I will do the same.
 
 
 
 
Richard, USA.
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mi...@eastlink.ca  
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Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are droplit 
and antick. From Mich. 
 
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Dennis Long
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Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones
 
Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification 
tone.  It is barely audible.
 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 3:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iOS17 text tones
 
http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3
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RE: Mail app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorting is for sorting mail in various ways, it is not for setting up 
rules/filters which treat certain emails in a certain way, e.g. to move all 
emails from the Viphone list to a mailbox you set up for this.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 3:57 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Mail app

I don’t do this, but I think it can be done.  Start by goin into the menu, 
arrow to view and arrow down to sort.  That should give you info.  Again, I 
don’t use that feature, but it looks like it can be done.


> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Hello. Unfortunately, there is not a way to create a rule as you 
> describe. I very much wish Apple would add this ability to their Mail 
> ap, and have sent them feedback expressing this desire. Alass, Apple 
> does what and when they want.
> 
> Warmly,
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> 
> On 9/16/23, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Is there a way to create a rule using the iOS mail app?
>> I have email messages that I would like going into a specific folder, 
>> I can set this on my personal computer, but I don’t know how to do 
>> that on the iPhone.
>> I’d appreciate any information.
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Re: Mail app

[Jonathan Cohn]

And at least iOS 17, when Ken adjust Mail rules in the iOS mail settings, 
application for iCloud account. I don’t think this is available for Google or 
Microsoft accounts.

  iCloud Mail Rules, Apple ID → iCloud → iCloud Mail → iCloud Mail Rules

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Lyne  wrote:
> 
> Hello Tom,
> I don't think you can use to create rulls.
> Filter be side edit seems to be the way you want to chose what you see
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 17 sept. 2023 à 06:57, Tom Rash  a écrit :
>> 
>> I don’t do this, but I think it can be done.  Start by goin into the menu, 
>> arrow to view and arrow down to sort.  That should give you info.  Again, I 
>> don’t use that feature, but it looks like it can be done.
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello. Unfortunately, there is not a way to create a rule as you
>>> describe. I very much wish Apple would add this ability to their Mail
>>> ap, and have sent them feedback expressing this desire. Alass, Apple
>>> does what and when they want.
>>> 
>>> Warmly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
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 Hello all,
 Is there a way to create a rule using the iOS mail app?
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RE: iOS17 text tones

[Christopher Chaltain]

I like the new tones, and the associated haptics,  but my hearing loss is very 
slight. I would suggest that people actually give them a spin on IOS 17 before 
making up their mind. The recording is great, but once you have these tones on 
your own phone where you can adjust the volume and hear the tones without the 
surrounding audio you'll then you'll have a better environment in which to 
decide if they're OK or not.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

I hope everyone is writing to 
accessibil...@apple.com and pointing out that 
anyone with a slight hearing loss, not to mention everyone else, will struggle 
to hear many of these tones.
Once I install iOS 17 tomorrow, I will do the same.




Richard, USA.
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are droplit 
and antick. From Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: September 17, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification 
tone.  It is barely audible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 3:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS17 text tones

http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3
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RE: iOS17 text tones

[Richard Turner]

I hope everyone is writing to accessibil...@apple.com 
  and pointing out that anyone with a slight 
hearing loss, not to mention everyone else, will struggle to hear many of these 
tones.

Once I install iOS 17 tomorrow, I will do the same.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

 

Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are droplit 
and antick. From Mich. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: September 17, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

 

Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification 
tone.  It is barely audible.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iOS17 text tones

 

http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3

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http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream

 

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RE: iOS17 text tones

[michv]

Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are droplit 
and antick. From Mich. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: September 17, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

 

Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification 
tone.  It is barely audible.

 

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Subject: iOS17 text tones

 

http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3

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RE: iOS17 text tones

[Dennis Long]

Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification 
tone.  It is barely audible.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
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RE: VoiceOver and iOS 17

[Star Gazer]

And do we get new voices or any improvements?

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Hi,
Can anybody running the release candidate of iOS 17 confirmb the in the last 
few minutes of the following video telling that VoiceOver is broken in iOS 17 
RC?

info 

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Re: Mail app

[Lyne]

Hello Tom,
I don't think you can use to create rulls.
Filter be side edit seems to be the way you want to chose what you see 

Lyne

> Le 17 sept. 2023 à 06:57, Tom Rash  a écrit :
> 
> I don’t do this, but I think it can be done.  Start by goin into the menu, 
> arrow to view and arrow down to sort.  That should give you info.  Again, I 
> don’t use that feature, but it looks like it can be done.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello. Unfortunately, there is not a way to create a rule as you
>> describe. I very much wish Apple would add this ability to their Mail
>> ap, and have sent them feedback expressing this desire. Alass, Apple
>> does what and when they want.
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 9/16/23, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> Is there a way to create a rule using the iOS mail app?
>>> I have email messages that I would like going into a specific folder, I can
>>> set this on my personal computer, but I don’t know how to do that on the
>>> iPhone.
>>> I’d appreciate any information.
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Re: Mail app

[Richard Turner]

Tom, what menu are you talking about? There has never been any option to create 
a filter in iOS mail. 


Richard, USA 
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> On Sep 17, 2023, at 3:57 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> I don’t do this, but I think it can be done.  Start by goin into the menu, 
> arrow to view and arrow down to sort.  That should give you info.  Again, I 
> don’t use that feature, but it looks like it can be done.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello. Unfortunately, there is not a way to create a rule as you
>> describe. I very much wish Apple would add this ability to their Mail
>> ap, and have sent them feedback expressing this desire. Alass, Apple
>> does what and when they want.
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 9/16/23, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> Is there a way to create a rule using the iOS mail app?
>>> I have email messages that I would like going into a specific folder, I can
>>> set this on my personal computer, but I don’t know how to do that on the
>>> iPhone.
>>> I’d appreciate any information.
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Re: Mail app

[Tom Rash]

I don’t do this, but I think it can be done.  Start by goin into the menu, 
arrow to view and arrow down to sort.  That should give you info.  Again, I 
don’t use that feature, but it looks like it can be done.


> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Hello. Unfortunately, there is not a way to create a rule as you
> describe. I very much wish Apple would add this ability to their Mail
> ap, and have sent them feedback expressing this desire. Alass, Apple
> does what and when they want.
> 
> Warmly,
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> On 9/16/23, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Is there a way to create a rule using the iOS mail app?
>> I have email messages that I would like going into a specific folder, I can
>> set this on my personal computer, but I don’t know how to do that on the
>> iPhone.
>> I’d appreciate any information.
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Re: iOS17 text tones

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Thanks for this preview.  Those text tones really suck in my opinion.
Most of them are so low, you can barely hear them.  I'd never use most
of them to let me know of an incoming message because you'd never know
you received one because of how low the tones are.  Not cool!!!

On 9/17/23, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_text_tones.mp3
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RE: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks Matt, a little more space for gestures and all that is something I 
thought might be nice as well. I also assume that even if it may feel a bit big 
and thick in the beginning, you probably get used to it aftrer a few days.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

I bought one at the end of May and really like the battery life and the action 
button. I started out with a 45 mm watch a few years ago, but my last couple 
have been 41 mm and switching to the ultra feels significantly larger than 
either of those. For one, the watch is much thicker.

I traded watches with someone for about a week, so they could try out the 
ultra, and I didn’t depreciate their watches battery life, but the size was a 
nice change, felt much less obtrusive.

With all that said, I don’t think I’m going back, for no other reason than the 
battery life. The larger screen makes the keyboard and other controls much 
easier to interact with. Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2023, at 16:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch 
series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery 
life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such 
a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't 
so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles 
away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here 
mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an 
Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a 
question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me 
put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where 
if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had 
my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy 
with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not 
by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but 
still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if 
you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last 
year.


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RE: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One of my customers stopped by today and showed me his Apple Watch Ultra. I put 
it on my wrist and I was surprised that it wasn't heavier, but it's definitely 
big and sorry, but I definitely don't think of it as sexy; that word is 
reserved  for a more traditional use with me 

I was surprised that my wife liked it, I really would have thought she would 
find it big; now the issue is that if I decide to get one she probably would 
also like it and of course you can pretty much buy 2 of the regular aluminum 
cellular watches for what 1 Ultra costs. We can also afford to buy two of them, 
but it really becomes a question whether I am not too cheap for that!

I do have one more question, is there a difference in terms of being able to 
play anything like an audio book via the built-in speaker with the Ultra? This 
is still not possible with a regular Apple Watch unless it is changing now in 
Watch OS 10.

I understand the Ultra is a good bit louderbut apart from that, the action 
button and the better battery life, can it do anything else a regular Apple 
Watch can't do? And yes, I know you can use it as a scuba diving watch and 
while I do scuba dive when I have the opportunity, it's not often enough for 
this to be an important consideration.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
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Well, I upgraded from series 5 to the ultra that sleeps bigger than what I had. 
I only wish I had kept my Milanese loop because I like that loop but I know I 
can find other loops or sport watch type of bands on Amazon cheaper than an 
apple. I like the trail loop that I have. It’s the trail loop band. It has 
Velcro it’s nice but I wish I had a second band. Maybe I’ll buy one a metal one 
or something.



Sent from my iPhone



> On Sep 16, 2023, at 12:25 AM, lenron brown 
> mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> The ultra is one sexy watch. I have tried it on a few times, and to

> me isn't not that big of a jump from the 44 or 45. Everyone one is

> different though.

>

>> On 9/15/23, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> 
>> wrote:

>> Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our

>> Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the

>> features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the 
>> size.

>> Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret

>> getting such a large watch?

>> Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which

>> unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where

>> we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of

>> stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly in connection with a

>> carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook

>> to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question"

>> type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me

>> put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15 minutes.

>> Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of

>> 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the

>> fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years

>> and that I am the only blind guy with a guide dog in town and just

>> everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of

>> my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am

>> curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if

>> you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last 
>> year.

>>

>>

>> Take care,

>> Sieghard

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