Re: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile

[englishrider91]

I actually have a UE Boom, but I'm not a fan of how muffled VoiceOver sounds 
over it. I'll have to check out that company, the one whos website you 
mentioned.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jan 9, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The Outdoor Tech Turtle 2 speaker has Play/Pause and volume/track controls 
> and sort of the best in that category but probably also the most expensive 
> would be theUE Boom or whatever they are called from Logitech. They are 
> cylindrical speakers similar to the Amazon echo which throw sound all the way 
> 360 degrees, but as I said, they aren’t cheap.
> I also just listened to a Podcast about this year’s CES in Las Vegas and they 
> mentioned another one which is supposed to be good and much less expensive, 
> they are from a company called Fugoo, their website is www.fugoo.com and the 
> website comes up with the heading “The Best Waterproof Bluetooth Speakers for 
> Outdoors”.
> One of their speaker boast a very impressive 40 hour battery life and it 
> seems they use Bluetooth 4.2 with up to 100 feet or 30 metres range – I may 
> just have to buy another bluetooth speaker!
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 4:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile
>  
> Sieghard, I so know what you mean. I've been wanting a waterproof shower 
> speaker for a while now. I'm thinking of getting the Boom Swimmer. It has a 
> tail you can bend to rap around things, az well az a suction cup. I like the 
> tail because I don't have any good surface to stick a suction cup to in my 
> bathroom. I believe the speaker will also let you control tracks as well as 
> volume, so you can do everything from the speaker, and don't have to touch 
> your phone while in the shower. It's surprisingly hard to find a waterproof 
> speaker that lets you control tracks and volume directly from the speaker.
>  
> I've also had my iPhone 6S fall in to my toilet! Ugh! I have a little shelf 
> right above the tank of my toilet, and I accidentally yanked the phone off of 
> it via the headphone cable, and splash! I'm so glad it wasn't ruined! The 
> bottom speaker got rather muffled, but I stood it upright so that the water 
> would drain out of it, and it was fine after a little while.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pablo,
>  
> That depends on your lifestyle. The Apple Watch series 2 is waterproof and 
> for me that was a reason to buy it instead of the less expensive series 1 
> because I do like the idea of tracking my workout while swimming or to have 
> the watch on while I’m taking my dog for a swim in the lake or river in the 
> summer, while I’m out canoeing, kayaking or windsurfing etc. In fact, if I 
> had my iPhone in a waterproof case like a Pelican case and if I had a 
> waterproof bluetooth headset or even just by using my Apple Watch as a 
> speakerphone I could go windsurfing and somebody on the shore could give me 
> directions/instructions etc.
> I also fell in the water during a hiking trip once when a section of 
> riverbank caved in and while this was well before the era of when you had a 
> cell phone with you at all times, I was wearing my braille watch at the time 
> and it was a goner afterwards. My Apple Watch would have been uneffected. 
> Furthermore, as for bluetooth speakers, I live in an area where people do 
> outdoor activities all the time and I think it’s pretty cool that I can have 
> a speaker that can sit in the rain during a camping trip and you can still 
> enjoy listening to an audio book or some music. I know a lot of people don’t 
> go camping or hiking when it’s raining, but up here we often go on multi-day 
> trips and it may be perfectly nice when you leave but not so much after a day 
> or two so I think it’s perfectly justified when companies make these 
> waterproof or water-resistant devices. Lastly, while you may have never 
> dropped a phone in the water or a toilet, you have no idea how many people do 
> drop their phone into the toilet and if it’s not waterproof you are, well, 
> shit out of luck I guess would be the right phrase here 
> Oh, I forgot the shower, I really enjoy being able to bring my Outdoor Tech 
> bluetooth speaker with me when I have a shower and stick it on a shelf where 
> while it’s not directly under the shower stream it’s nonetheless damp and get 
> the occasional splash and I can still listen to my audio book.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile
>  
> Well,
> I don’t know why now everybody want 

Re: searching string on safari

[Mary Otten]

Not with a touchscreen. I'm not sure about using the keyboard. On the Mac, 
there is a command for this and it works great. But I don't know if it works on 
iOS with a Bluetooth keyboard.
Mary


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> 
> Hi all,
> Navigating on Safari, can I search for a specific word or sentence on a web 
> page?
> Some times finding information is so hard, a search string feature could be 
> so helpful. I am able to do it on safari?
> Thanks
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RE: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Outdoor Tech Turtle 2 speaker has Play/Pause and volume/track controls and 
sort of the best in that category but probably also the most expensive would be 
theUE Boom or whatever they are called from Logitech. They are cylindrical 
speakers similar to the Amazon echo which throw sound all the way 360 degrees, 
but as I said, they aren’t cheap.
I also just listened to a Podcast about this year’s CES in Las Vegas and they 
mentioned another one which is supposed to be good and much less expensive, 
they are from a company called Fugoo, their website is 
www.fugoo.com and the website comes up with the heading 
“The Best Waterproof Bluetooth Speakers for Outdoors”.
One of their speaker boast a very impressive 40 hour battery life and it seems 
they use Bluetooth 4.2 with up to 100 feet or 30 metres range – I may just have 
to buy another bluetooth speaker!

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile

Sieghard, I so know what you mean. I've been wanting a waterproof shower 
speaker for a while now. I'm thinking of getting the Boom Swimmer. It has a 
tail you can bend to rap around things, az well az a suction cup. I like the 
tail because I don't have any good surface to stick a suction cup to in my 
bathroom. I believe the speaker will also let you control tracks as well as 
volume, so you can do everything from the speaker, and don't have to touch your 
phone while in the shower. It's surprisingly hard to find a waterproof speaker 
that lets you control tracks and volume directly from the speaker.

I've also had my iPhone 6S fall in to my toilet! Ugh! I have a little shelf 
right above the tank of my toilet, and I accidentally yanked the phone off of 
it via the headphone cable, and splash! I'm so glad it wasn't ruined! The 
bottom speaker got rather muffled, but I stood it upright so that the water 
would drain out of it, and it was fine after a little while.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Pablo,

That depends on your lifestyle. The Apple Watch series 2 is waterproof and for 
me that was a reason to buy it instead of the less expensive series 1 because I 
do like the idea of tracking my workout while swimming or to have the watch on 
while I’m taking my dog for a swim in the lake or river in the summer, while 
I’m out canoeing, kayaking or windsurfing etc. In fact, if I had my iPhone in a 
waterproof case like a Pelican case and if I had a waterproof bluetooth headset 
or even just by using my Apple Watch as a speakerphone I could go windsurfing 
and somebody on the shore could give me directions/instructions etc.
I also fell in the water during a hiking trip once when a section of riverbank 
caved in and while this was well before the era of when you had a cell phone 
with you at all times, I was wearing my braille watch at the time and it was a 
goner afterwards. My Apple Watch would have been uneffected. Furthermore, as 
for bluetooth speakers, I live in an area where people do outdoor activities 
all the time and I think it’s pretty cool that I can have a speaker that can 
sit in the rain during a camping trip and you can still enjoy listening to an 
audio book or some music. I know a lot of people don’t go camping or hiking 
when it’s raining, but up here we often go on multi-day trips and it may be 
perfectly nice when you leave but not so much after a day or two so I think 
it’s perfectly justified when companies make these waterproof or 
water-resistant devices. Lastly, while you may have never dropped a phone in 
the water or a toilet, you have no idea how many people do drop their phone 
into the toilet and if it’s not waterproof you are, well, shit out of luck I 
guess would be the right phrase here 
Oh, I forgot the shower, I really enjoy being able to bring my Outdoor Tech 
bluetooth speaker with me when I have a shower and stick it on a shelf where 
while it’s not directly under the shower stream it’s nonetheless damp and get 
the occasional splash and I can still listen to my audio book.

Best regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile

Well,
I don’t know why now everybody want to make  everything water prove. I think it 
is a feature that lack of real use. How many times we have drop a watch, a 
cellphone, a speaker into the water?
I don’t know all of you, but I never ever drop things into the water, and 
before I lived where there are canals of water, where passing boats, such as in 
Venice, and 

searching string on safari

[Pablo Morales]

Hi all,

Navigating on Safari, can I search for a specific word or sentence on a web
page?

Some times finding information is so hard, a search string feature could be
so helpful. I am able to do it on safari?

Thanks

 

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Re: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile

[englishrider91]

Sieghard, I so know what you mean. I've been wanting a waterproof shower 
speaker for a while now. I'm thinking of getting the Boom Swimmer. It has a 
tail you can bend to rap around things, az well az a suction cup. I like the 
tail because I don't have any good surface to stick a suction cup to in my 
bathroom. I believe the speaker will also let you control tracks as well as 
volume, so you can do everything from the speaker, and don't have to touch your 
phone while in the shower. It's surprisingly hard to find a waterproof speaker 
that lets you control tracks and volume directly from the speaker.

I've also had my iPhone 6S fall in to my toilet! Ugh! I have a little shelf 
right above the tank of my toilet, and I accidentally yanked the phone off of 
it via the headphone cable, and splash! I'm so glad it wasn't ruined! The 
bottom speaker got rather muffled, but I stood it upright so that the water 
would drain out of it, and it was fine after a little while.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pablo,
>  
> That depends on your lifestyle. The Apple Watch series 2 is waterproof and 
> for me that was a reason to buy it instead of the less expensive series 1 
> because I do like the idea of tracking my workout while swimming or to have 
> the watch on while I’m taking my dog for a swim in the lake or river in the 
> summer, while I’m out canoeing, kayaking or windsurfing etc. In fact, if I 
> had my iPhone in a waterproof case like a Pelican case and if I had a 
> waterproof bluetooth headset or even just by using my Apple Watch as a 
> speakerphone I could go windsurfing and somebody on the shore could give me 
> directions/instructions etc.
> I also fell in the water during a hiking trip once when a section of 
> riverbank caved in and while this was well before the era of when you had a 
> cell phone with you at all times, I was wearing my braille watch at the time 
> and it was a goner afterwards. My Apple Watch would have been uneffected. 
> Furthermore, as for bluetooth speakers, I live in an area where people do 
> outdoor activities all the time and I think it’s pretty cool that I can have 
> a speaker that can sit in the rain during a camping trip and you can still 
> enjoy listening to an audio book or some music. I know a lot of people don’t 
> go camping or hiking when it’s raining, but up here we often go on multi-day 
> trips and it may be perfectly nice when you leave but not so much after a day 
> or two so I think it’s perfectly justified when companies make these 
> waterproof or water-resistant devices. Lastly, while you may have never 
> dropped a phone in the water or a toilet, you have no idea how many people do 
> drop their phone into the toilet and if it’s not waterproof you are, well, 
> shit out of luck I guess would be the right phrase here 
> Oh, I forgot the shower, I really enjoy being able to bring my Outdoor Tech 
> bluetooth speaker with me when I have a shower and stick it on a shelf where 
> while it’s not directly under the shower stream it’s nonetheless damp and get 
> the occasional splash and I can still listen to my audio book.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile
>  
> Well,
> I don’t know why now everybody want to make  everything water prove. I think 
> it is a feature that lack of real use. How many times we have drop a watch, a 
> cellphone, a speaker into the water?
> I don’t know all of you, but I never ever drop things into the water, and 
> before I lived where there are canals of water, where passing boats, such as 
> in Venice, and never I dropped anything in those canals.
> So, I really don’t see phones, watches, speakers, microwave, or vacuums water 
> prove as something usable.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
> Subject: Water resistant bluetooth speaker that will make you smile
>  
> Here's my attempt with another podcast demonstrating the Life n Soul 
> bluetooth water resistant speaker sold by QVC.
>  
> https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqgamUpNJtVMuHLf3QUafygOrcN1
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Re: Dish Anywhere app

[Shane Clark82]

Hi Joseph,

I use the Dish Anywhere app on a pretty frequent basis, and find it to be
very accessible. I can't set and delete my DVR recordings, as well as watch
them on my phone or on the TV. I had to get someone to tell me what the
unlabeled buttons were to fast forward, Paws, and Rewind but I've then
labeled them and all works as it should.

They have a hopper out now that Reed's various menus while you're scrolling
around using the remote? How does this text to speech work? I didn't know
they had one out there that would do this.

Shane.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017, 2:40 PM joseph hodge  wrote:

>  Is the dish anywhere app pretty accessible? I'm thinking about changing
> since the hopper now has text to speech. Not sure Time Warner cable will
> get a talking box anytime soon.   I don't hear much talk about this dish
> anywhere application so just wanted to make sure things would be
> accessible? On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 2:57:02 PM UTC-5, shane clark
> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > When you are in the list of episodes for a particular show, scroll down
> the screen, and you'll find a radio button that says show all. Check this
> radio button, and then scroll down a little more, and you'll hear something
> like season 2 episode 4, or something to that effect. Then you can tap on
> that particular episode, and begin watching.
> >
> > Hope this helps, Shane.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016, 1:09 PM Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > HaI can’t find a way to choose between episodes of the same show.
> > Thx -Steve
> > s anyone figured out a way to switch between more than one recording of
> a show when looking at the DVR recordings?
> >
> >
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Re: Dish Anywhere app

[joseph hodge]

 Is the dish anywhere app pretty accessible? I'm thinking about changing since 
the hopper now has text to speech. Not sure Time Warner cable will get a 
talking box anytime soon.   I don't hear much talk about this dish anywhere 
application so just wanted to make sure things would be accessible? On Friday, 
December 9, 2016 at 2:57:02 PM UTC-5, shane clark wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> When you are in the list of episodes for a particular show, scroll down the 
> screen, and you'll find a radio button that says show all. Check this radio 
> button, and then scroll down a little more, and you'll hear something like 
> season 2 episode 4, or something to that effect. Then you can tap on that 
> particular episode, and begin watching. 
> 
> Hope this helps, Shane.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016, 1:09 PM Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> HaI can’t find a way to choose between episodes of the same show.
> Thx -Steve
> s anyone figured out a way to switch between more than one recording of a 
> show when looking at the DVR recordings?  
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Apple watch and Air Pods

[Cristóbal]

You can buy replacement earloops/hooks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:46 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods

Hi Murray,

Yes, the Edge is smaller than the Legend.

I loved my Legend and bought an Edge as a spare for when I misplaced my Legend. 
Once I started using the Edge, I wasn't impressed at first, But then I went 
back to the Legend, and I thought it was just too big and bulky compared to the 
Edge. I've been using my Edge since, and just bought a second as a backup, and 
because I was a little rough with the ear loop and broke it. My fault totally.

HTH, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods

I tried the Plantronics Voyager and it was just too big and I could not keep it 
on my ear. I understand that the Edge is smaller. Is this true? I might give it 
a try because I do think the Voyager was a great headset in every other way but 
the size.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods

Well, with respect to using the headset with two devices my Plantronics Voyager 
Edge works a lot better then. I actually just paired it with my Apple Watch and 
it works great. When I turn it on it will say "Phone 1 connected" and a second 
or two later "Phone 2 connected". Then if I am listening to an Audible book on 
my phone and a notification comes in on the watch I hear the notification 
sound, if I wake up the watch my book stops and Voiceover from the watch speaks 
via the headset and as soon as it's done there is maybe just a second or so 
delay and my book automatically starts reading again. It works great and I'm 
convinced now after reading some reviews and hearing some of the feedback from 
Voiceover users that I am going to wait at least until Apple releases the 
second generation of Airpods which I wouldn't be surprised will be this fall. 
They are too expensive to buy now and then maybe in 9 or 10 months they are way 
better and then you kick yourself for not waiting.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deb Lewis
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods

OK. I can get the watch to connect consistently now but it's not useful as I'll 
explain.
You have to hold one of the airpods in your hand right on top of the watch and 
with that same hand I hit the airpods button in the airplay menu. It takes well 
over a minute, but doing this will get the watch connected. Now stick that pod 
in your ear and you're good to go until you get a notification on another 
device for example. Then, it disconnects from the watch and jumps on to the 
other device. And you're welcome to start over for the watch.
I have a ticket in with Accessibility. I thought they were ignoring it becaue 
of some email I got indicating it ws closed, but it's not closed. My 
recommendation would be to call in on the same issue because they said they 
haven't had much feedback about using any of the watch series with VO. I'm sure 
the newer watches are better simply because they respond faster, but htis watch 
is supported as verified by the agent from Apple so they do expect it to 
perform.
One more quick observation. The watch loses connection when another device gets 
a notification etc. but this does not happen between the other devices. 
I have a phone for home and one for work, plus an Ipad and a Mac. In those 
cases, the new sound, including phone ringing, does not connect the second 
device. It would probably be good to be able to control whether this happens or 
not because obviously for VO users we get more sound from our devices than 
sighted people, but they certainly get phone calls which should be treated 
differently from a notification sound in most cases. But I would say I can 
reproduce everything I've described here. When I can I'm going to the Apple 
store to see what they say and to perhaps try the experience with the newer 
tech since my phone is a 6 and a 6S+, my watch is first generation and my Ipad 
is a little older too.

On 1/7/17, Robert Carter  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have had the same experience that Deb has had. I am using the series
> 0 watch. I’m not sure if VoiceOver works better with the AirPods on 
> the series
> 2 watch? When I restarted my watch with the AirPods in my ears, the 
> watch started up with VoiceOver speaking through the EarPods. This 
> only worked for five or ten minutes. Clearly, Apple has more work to 
> do here. This seems to be a VoiceOver issue. Music 

Re: accessible exercise bikes using an Iphone?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I'd think you can strap a fitBit device to the bike, and then use phone to 
gather or collate the data.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 5:04 PM
Subject: accessible exercise bikes using an Iphone?


Hi,


Does anyone know of an exercise bike that will interface with an
Iphone?  How accessible is the interface if there is such a thing?  Will
it present current exercise data and maintain past history of workouts?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

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Re: Apple watch and Air Pods

[Deb Lewis]

So a couple of quick questions about the Edge? How many things can be
paired simultaneously? Does it always return to device 1 after
handling the second device info? That's what I thought would happen
here but clearly Apple is only actually connecting one device at a
time. Many are paired, but examining the bluetooth settings in each
device reveals that only one of them is connected. On the new devices
this might work better, but as I've already said, it doesn't with what
I have.

On 1/9/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Does the Edge have an ear loop? Goes to show how closely I examined what is
> in the box. Anyhow, I find it fits in my ear perfectly and stays in securely
> with this rubber thingi it has. My first Edge had a problem with the
> microphones which basically quit working after a few months, but I called
> Plantronics and they replaced it without hassle.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 6:46 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods
>
> Hi Murray,
>
> Yes, the Edge is smaller than the Legend.
>
> I loved my Legend and bought an Edge as a spare for when I misplaced my
> Legend. Once I started using the Edge, I wasn't impressed at first, But then
> I went back to the Legend, and I thought it was just too big and bulky
> compared to the Edge. I've been using my Edge since, and just bought a
> second as a backup, and because I was a little rough with the ear loop and
> broke it. My fault totally.
>
> HTH, Keith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Marie
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods
>
> I tried the Plantronics Voyager and it was just too big and I could not keep
> it on my ear. I understand that the Edge is smaller. Is this true? I might
> give it a try because I do think the Voyager was a great headset in every
> other way but the size.
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods
>
> Well, with respect to using the headset with two devices my Plantronics
> Voyager Edge works a lot better then. I actually just paired it with my
> Apple Watch and it works great. When I turn it on it will say "Phone 1
> connected" and a second or two later "Phone 2 connected". Then if I am
> listening to an Audible book on my phone and a notification comes in on the
> watch I hear the notification sound, if I wake up the watch my book stops
> and Voiceover from the watch speaks via the headset and as soon as it's done
> there is maybe just a second or so delay and my book automatically starts
> reading again. It works great and I'm convinced now after reading some
> reviews and hearing some of the feedback from Voiceover users that I am
> going to wait at least until Apple releases the second generation of Airpods
> which I wouldn't be surprised will be this fall. They are too expensive to
> buy now and then maybe in 9 or 10 months they are way better and then you
> kick yourself for not waiting.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Deb Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods
>
> OK. I can get the watch to connect consistently now but it's not useful as
> I'll explain.
> You have to hold one of the Airpods in your hand right on top of the watch
> and with that same hand I hit the Airpods button in the airplay menu. It
> takes well over a minute, but doing this will get the watch connected. Now
> stick that pod in your ear and you're good to go until you get a
> notification on another device for example. Then, it disconnects from the
> watch and jumps on to the other device. And you're welcome to start over for
> the watch.
> I have a ticket in with Accessibility. I thought they were ignoring it
> because of some email I got indicating it ws closed, but it's not closed. My
> recommendation would be to call in on the same issue because they said they
> haven't had much feedback about using any of the watch series with VO. I'm
> sure the newer watches are better simply because they respond faster, but
> htis watch is supported as verified by the agent from Apple so they do
> expect it to perform.
> One more quick observation. The watch loses connection when another device
> gets a notification etc. but this does not happen between the other devices.
>
> I have a phone for home and one for work, plus an Ipad and a Mac. In those
> cases, the new sound, including phone ringing, does not connect the second
> device. It would 

RE: accessible exercise bikes using an Iphone?

[Richard Turner]

There are higher end exercise bikes that have Bluetooth connectivity to 
iPhones.  How accessible the app is I don't know.  I'd call around to some 
stores that sell exercise equipment and find out which ones have Bluetooth and 
see if you couldn't install the app and go to the store and test it out with 
one of their floor models.

Of course, someone on this list may have one and will chime in.

Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessible exercise bikes using an Iphone?

Hi,


Does anyone know of an exercise bike that will interface with an 
Iphone?  How accessible is the interface if there is such a thing?  Will 
it present current exercise data and maintain past history of workouts?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

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accessible exercise bikes using an Iphone?

[Dan]

Hi,


Does anyone know of an exercise bike that will interface with an 
Iphone?  How accessible is the interface if there is such a thing?  Will 
it present current exercise data and maintain past history of workouts?



Thanks.


Dan Beaver

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RE: Apple watch and Air Pods

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Does the Edge have an ear loop? Goes to show how closely I examined what is in 
the box. Anyhow, I find it fits in my ear perfectly and stays in securely with 
this rubber thingi it has. My first Edge had a problem with the microphones 
which basically quit working after a few months, but I called Plantronics and 
they replaced it without hassle.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 6:46 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods

Hi Murray,

Yes, the Edge is smaller than the Legend.

I loved my Legend and bought an Edge as a spare for when I misplaced my Legend. 
Once I started using the Edge, I wasn't impressed at first, But then I went 
back to the Legend, and I thought it was just too big and bulky compared to the 
Edge. I've been using my Edge since, and just bought a second as a backup, and 
because I was a little rough with the ear loop and broke it. My fault totally.

HTH, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods

I tried the Plantronics Voyager and it was just too big and I could not keep it 
on my ear. I understand that the Edge is smaller. Is this true? I might give it 
a try because I do think the Voyager was a great headset in every other way but 
the size.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods

Well, with respect to using the headset with two devices my Plantronics Voyager 
Edge works a lot better then. I actually just paired it with my Apple Watch and 
it works great. When I turn it on it will say "Phone 1 connected" and a second 
or two later "Phone 2 connected". Then if I am listening to an Audible book on 
my phone and a notification comes in on the watch I hear the notification 
sound, if I wake up the watch my book stops and Voiceover from the watch speaks 
via the headset and as soon as it's done there is maybe just a second or so 
delay and my book automatically starts reading again. It works great and I'm 
convinced now after reading some reviews and hearing some of the feedback from 
Voiceover users that I am going to wait at least until Apple releases the 
second generation of Airpods which I wouldn't be surprised will be this fall. 
They are too expensive to buy now and then maybe in 9 or 10 months they are way 
better and then you kick yourself for not waiting.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deb Lewis
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods

OK. I can get the watch to connect consistently now but it's not useful as I'll 
explain.
You have to hold one of the Airpods in your hand right on top of the watch and 
with that same hand I hit the Airpods button in the airplay menu. It takes well 
over a minute, but doing this will get the watch connected. Now stick that pod 
in your ear and you're good to go until you get a notification on another 
device for example. Then, it disconnects from the watch and jumps on to the 
other device. And you're welcome to start over for the watch.
I have a ticket in with Accessibility. I thought they were ignoring it because 
of some email I got indicating it ws closed, but it's not closed. My 
recommendation would be to call in on the same issue because they said they 
haven't had much feedback about using any of the watch series with VO. I'm sure 
the newer watches are better simply because they respond faster, but htis watch 
is supported as verified by the agent from Apple so they do expect it to 
perform.
One more quick observation. The watch loses connection when another device gets 
a notification etc. but this does not happen between the other devices. 
I have a phone for home and one for work, plus an Ipad and a Mac. In those 
cases, the new sound, including phone ringing, does not connect the second 
device. It would probably be good to be able to control whether this happens or 
not because obviously for VO users we get more sound from our devices than 
sighted people, but they certainly get phone calls which should be treated 
differently from a notification sound in most cases. But I would say I can 
reproduce everything I've described here. When I can I'm going to the Apple 
store to see what they say and to perhaps try the experience with the newer 
tech since my phone is a 6 and a 6S+, my watch is first generation and my Ipad 
is a little older too.

On 1/7/17, Robert Carter  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have had the same experience that Deb has had. I am using the 

RE: oterbox cases and the iphone 7

[Louise Peyton]

Hello:
When I contacted AT Guys about the iPhone screen protectors, I was told the 
ones for the 6 would work for the 7.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: oterbox cases and the iphone 7

guys,
so we  get back to the topic at hand, will the iphone 6 screen protecter fit 
the 7, so with that said i should go with the tactile protecter for the 6, and 
then the iphone 7 oterbox?


On 1/8/2017 10:30 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
> the Summit was the second phone in the survivor line.  the first phone 
> was originally not named but is now called the All Terrain.  The 
> Summit does not have a flap over the camera.  It has a hinged flap 
> over the lightning port.  It can cover the port completely to prevent 
> dirt from entering.  I have no problems plugging in my charger or 
> headphones into the port.  The improvements in the Summit is why I 
> suggested it specifically and not any case in the Survivor lineup. the 
> OP originally wanted a Defender case, but could not buy one. buying an 
> iPhone 6 case often does not work because the bulge for the camera is 
> bigger for the 7 and dirt, dust and sand easily enters the case 
> through the headphone jack which is not needed for the 7.
>
> With the survivor summit, the iPhone lays inside what seems like a 
> shallow box.  The top of the case with the screen protector slides on 
> grooves inside the case.  the two pieces lock the phone in place 
> snugly.
>
> The last time I checked, Otterbox holds the iPhone in place with 
> clamps on each of the corners.  If the iPhone wiggles a little, the 
> clamps will scratch the glass on the front of the iPhone.
>
> Kelly
>
> On 1/8/17, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Kelly, is the clip of the Surviver Summit designed so that it doesn't 
>> block the charging port? I had a regular heavy-duty Griffin Surviver 
>> (without the summit word on the end) and while it was a nice case, my 
>> biggist issue with it was the clip. If I wanted to charge my phone 
>> while walking around, I had to put it in something like a jacket 
>> pockit, instead of on my belt in the clip, which I would had greatly 
>> prefered. The little rubber flap over the back-facing camera also 
>> kind of bugged me, but not nearly so much as that clip.
>>
>> I'm not quite understanding your explanation of how the phone fits 
>> differently in the OtterBox cases versis the Griffin cases. Could you 
>> try explaining again? It's probably me just being really dense. :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> Get a Griffin Survivor Summit.  I have one for my iPhone 7. It 
>>> sandwiches the iPhone in the case not scratching it.  Otterbox cases 
>>> clamp the iPhone into the case.  iPhones will wiggle in Otterbox 
>>> cases resulting in scratches.  Griffin Survivor cases meet military 
>>> specifications for drops, dust, sand, dirt, and drops.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
 On 1/8/17, Jed Barton  wrote:
 never used groupon, fill me in.  Do you have a site for them?

> On 1/7/2017 9:44 PM, Beverly Hunter wrote:
> You should get it from Groupon. They are much cheaper.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> So it appears that AT guys doesn't have the iphone 7 oterbox case.
>> However, can anyone confirm from what i've heard, fi i get the 
>> tactile screen protecter for the iphone 6, then if i get an 
>> oterbox from verizon, everything will work?  Can you guys 
>> confirm?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
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Re: oterbox cases and the iphone 7

[Jed Barton]

guys,
so we  get back to the topic at hand, will the iphone 6 screen protecter 
fit the 7, so with that said i should go with the tactile protecter for 
the 6, and then the iphone 7 oterbox?



On 1/8/2017 10:30 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

the Summit was the second phone in the survivor line.  the first phone
was originally not named but is now called the All Terrain.  The
Summit does not have a flap over the camera.  It has a hinged flap
over the lightning port.  It can cover the port completely to prevent
dirt from entering.  I have no problems plugging in my charger or
headphones into the port.  The improvements in the Summit is why I
suggested it specifically and not any case in the Survivor lineup. the
OP originally wanted a Defender case, but could not buy one. buying an
iPhone 6 case often does not work because the bulge for the camera is
bigger for the 7 and dirt, dust and sand easily enters the case
through the headphone jack which is not needed for the 7.

With the survivor summit, the iPhone lays inside what seems like a
shallow box.  The top of the case with the screen protector slides on
grooves inside the case.  the two pieces lock the phone in place
snugly.

The last time I checked, Otterbox holds the iPhone in place with
clamps on each of the corners.  If the iPhone wiggles a little, the
clamps will scratch the glass on the front of the iPhone.

Kelly

On 1/8/17, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:

Kelly, is the clip of the Surviver Summit designed so that it doesn't block
the charging port? I had a regular heavy-duty Griffin Surviver (without the
summit word on the end) and while it was a nice case, my biggist issue with
it was the clip. If I wanted to charge my phone while walking around, I had
to put it in something like a jacket pockit, instead of on my belt in the
clip, which I would had greatly prefered. The little rubber flap over the
back-facing camera also kind of bugged me, but not nearly so much as that
clip.

I'm not quite understanding your explanation of how the phone fits
differently in the OtterBox cases versis the Griffin cases. Could you try
explaining again? It's probably me just being really dense. :)


Thanks,
Ari


On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

Get a Griffin Survivor Summit.  I have one for my iPhone 7. It
sandwiches the iPhone in the case not scratching it.  Otterbox cases
clamp the iPhone into the case.  iPhones will wiggle in Otterbox cases
resulting in scratches.  Griffin Survivor cases meet military
specifications for drops, dust, sand, dirt, and drops.


Kelly


On 1/8/17, Jed Barton  wrote:
never used groupon, fill me in.  Do you have a site for them?


On 1/7/2017 9:44 PM, Beverly Hunter wrote:
You should get it from Groupon. They are much cheaper.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 7, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

So it appears that AT guys doesn't have the iphone 7 oterbox case.
However, can anyone confirm from what i've heard, fi i get the tactile
screen protecter for the iphone 6, then if i get an oterbox from
verizon,
everything will work?  Can you guys confirm?

Cheers,
Jed

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Re: VO and Non-literary .brf files

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

I am following the progress of the Blitab and the so-called braille kindle.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 8 Jan 2017, at 20:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> if you are asking if there is an app that will tell you a symbol has dots 
> 1.5.6 but only 5.6 are showing than no, I do not believe so.
> The $70 is to replace the entire 8 dot cell, they do not replace individual 
> dots as that is not the way the cells are designed.
> The new Braille Note Touch from Humanware runs on Android, has either 18 or 
> 32 cells and will work as a display for iPhones, etc.
> However it costs between $4000 and 5500.
> Granted, the Braille Note Touch is running an older version of Android, and 
> costs a lot, but at least it isn't running Windows CE like most other note 
> takers.
> The B2g from National Braille Press also runs on Android but I think is only 
> available as a 20 cell display.
> I do not know if it can work with iOS devices as a display.
> Personally, I am leaning toward non-notetakers and sticking with just 
> displays and am waiting for the OR20 from American Printing House to come 
> out. a 20 cell display for around $500.
> I had a Braille Edge that died and rather than have the display replaced for 
> about $2300 or buying a new one for $2800, I am waiting to see the OR20.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> I need to replace my Braille display. I have a 40-cell BrailleEdge
>> that went in for repair over the month of December. While it was in
>> the shop, VR loaned me an Apex, which also had problems with its
>> cells, but I could still use it because it gave speech feedback.
>> 
>> Hims sent e-mail regarding what needs replacement. In order to replace
>> a Braille cell, it will cost $70--not sure if by cell they mean a
>> single pin, or the eight dots that make up the space under say,
>> position one on a line of Braille. I have enough weak cells to warrant
>> replacing the Braille display--counselor says the price difference
>> between repair and replace is minimal, so replacement with anew unit,
>> especially if it can be gotten with an extended warranty, seems a
>> better choice.
>> 
>> I asked about the possibility of getting a notetaker with speech
>> output and display, vs. just a display on its own. He says the
>> notetakers don't use up-to-date operating systems.
>> 
>> My main reason for considering a notetaker over a display is because
>> of the speech feedback you can get re dot configuration of Braille
>> characters.
>> 
>> Is this same thing possible with VO? For example, if one of my cells
>> goes out and I need to check dot configuration, would I be able to
>> import the file in to an app that supports Braille-ready files and go
>> through the file to the point in question and get "for" for the 123456
>> Braille character? I use different Braille codes depending on the task
>> at hand, hence the reference to "non-literary" in the subject line.
>> 
>> I hope this post makes sense. If not, please ask, and I'll try to
>> clarify my question.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
>> 
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