Re: Musings about Sonos, their upcoming Alexa integration and the Homepod

[Angie Nutt]

Thanks for that; hadn’t thought of going that route, something to consider.

All the best
Angie
> On 12 Jun 2017, at 04:43, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Angie,
>  
> If you had a Connect which has 3 output options (RCA analogue, Toslink 
> optical and Coax Digital) you could buy any high-end Senheiser or other 
> digital wireless headset and use it that way. Some of the high end ones do 
> have Optical or Coax digital inputs which of course would give you the best 
> sound quality. Alternatively if you had a good quality headphone amp you 
> could hook it up to any one of these outputs on the Connect and then plug in 
> any wired headphones you may have.
> I do happen to have several Connect players and could go this route, but have 
> always hesitated to see if Sonos won’t finally change their tune so to speak 
> and decide to make integrated audio file quality Sonos Headphones.
> Now I am going to wait a bit more to see if you can connect to the new Apple 
> Homepod with bluetooth, typically bluetooth earphones are not quite as good 
> as a pair of high-end digital wireless headphones, but there are some pretty 
> good ones out there. I guess this would actually be another option to use a 
> headset with Sonos, buy a RCA or 3.5mm bluetooth dongle and plug it into the 
> back of the Connect and use any bluetooth headset you may already own. To be 
> honest quite often I just use it for listening to an audio book anyways so 
> audio file quality doesn’t really matter for that.
> I am lucky in that I have one of the original Play 5 players which back in 
> 2011 or 2012 when it came out was called the S5, it looks very similar to the 
> older Play 5 models since the newer ones now have those touch sensitive 
> controls, but mine has both a 3.5mm Line In which I think they still have 
> nowadays, but it also has a 3.5mm headphone jack or line out jack. I believe 
> this was the only player they ever made who has a headphone jack. When my Dad 
> comes to visit (he is hard of hearing) I plug in a set of basic headphones 
> for him and then group the S5 with my Playbar which then means he can listen 
> to his german TV channels using the headset without driving my Mom and me 
> crazy because otherwise he turns it up way loud.
> I may have to look into this bluetooth dongle idea, it really only occurred 
> to me as I was writing this, but that might be a good option for me right 
> now. Have to check on Amazon, ideally I could find one that could plug into 
> the digital optical or Coax Digital output on one of my Connects. <>
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Angie Nutt
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Musings about Sonos, their upcoming Alexa integration and the 
> Homepod
>  
> Hi Sieghard
>  
> As to the Headphone thing: last time I looked on Sonos’ website the wording 
> suggests they aren’t interested in doing such a thing but of course that 
> could change in the future. I, like you, would like such a thing as Sonos 
> headphones or something similar. Do you know if there is any kind of 
> Headphones which can do this? I’ve not come across such and if there are not, 
> then Sonos are probably quite safe from that point of view.
>  
> All the best
> Angie
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 18:08, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Just called Sonos to give some general feedback on the new Apple Homepod and 
> the recently announced capabilities of Airplay2 which will allow users who 
> have compatible Airplay devices to send music throughout the house similar to 
> what Sonos can do. I just wanted to give them the opinion of one of their 
> loyal customers because I have always thought the lack of native Airplay 
> support once Apple announced it is a mistake. Now I think so even more 
> because people will be able to buy all sorts of speakers at a number of price 
> points from relatively inexpensive to high-end and of course Apples own 
> Homepod will I think be a serious competitor to the Play 3 and Play 5 
> offering but it will also be smart and while it may initially be not as smart 
> as Alexa or Google Home it will still be a lot smarter than a Play 3 or Play 
> 5 which may have done Kindergarten when it comes to smartness, but not much 
> more.
>  
> In any case, during my call the Sonos rep told me that they are currently 
> focusing on Alexa integration so I guess those who do have an Amazon Echo as 
> well as one or more Sonos players can by the end of the year tell Alexa to 
> "Play the top hits of 1986 on Sonos Bedroom", not sure exact what one would 
> have to say and I guess it depends a bit on whether you use Spotify or 
> another service which you may have to specify in your command as well. This 
> will add a lot of third-party smartness to Sonos, but of course it benefits 
> 

Google docs, google sheets and yoast

[naturelovingmom]

Hi all,

I have just been offered some freelance writing work, but because I take the 
plunge, have a few questions.

First of all, google docs and google sheets will be used with this company. Are 
they accessible with my ipad?

Also, we have to put our work through something cabbled yoast (it checks for 
keywords, structure etc) and I'm wondering how accessible it is.

If anyone has any info on this, please let me know.

Thanks for your help.

Steph

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Re: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

[Maria Chapman]

HI.  is there a way to import books you already have in to this app?

Maria

> On 10 Jun 2017, at 11:30 pm, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> At this point in time, you can't use it to read books from NLS?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 5:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?
> 
> It looks interesting.
> I did not check what they charge for the non-iOS voices.
> Voice Dream has many great features too that I'm sure they drew on in their 
> development.
> If you wait a little while, you may find Voice Dream Reader also will allow 
> for adjusting the pause between sentences.
> 
> At this point, I'll stick with Voice Dream as I like its layout, but this is 
> a good option for a lot of folks.  It is good to see they work with Bookshare 
> as well.
> 
> Though, I have to question their claim to having the largest accessible 
> library...
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lev
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 4:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there is newe book reader on appstore called dolphin easy reader, free,
> it only requires of login using a dolphin account or sign up for a new
> one, also free of charge.
> 
> 
> What I find interesting is that while on this new app you can set up a
> longer pause in between sentnces (using ios voices), the last VDR update
> is uncapable of doing the same thing.
> 
> 
> yeah, of course this app needs to be improved, but checking it out
> rapidly its interface and settings is really basic and complete at the
> same time for being free of charge.
> 
> 
> This feature, add a longer pause in between sentences (for ios voices)
> is very helpful if you are trying to learn another language.
> 
> 
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RE: Itunes for windows - need assistance

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As far as I know you need to install the iCloud application (iCloud Control 
Panel) in order to sync contacts.
You will find it at https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204283

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
denise avant
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Itunes for windows - need assistance

Hello all,
I have a windows 10 machine. I successfully signed into my account. However, 
I’m having several problems.
First, under the accounts menu, it continues to show my name and account as 
being dimmed.
Second, I just got the iPhone 7, and while all of my iCloud contacts are on my 
phone, it seems I cannot get them to sync with my Windows 10 machine. I was 
able to get them to sync before when I had the 6s_+. I was able to get them in 
outlook, and now I cannot.
Can anyone make suggestions on any of these problems? Thanks.
Oh by the way, I am using JAWS 18 for a screen reader, and have the latest 
version of windows.



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RE: Anybody Used Capti Voice

[Alan Lemly]

Evan,

 

Here's a link to an AppleVis podcast done by Thomas Domville on Capti Narrator 
for iOS which I believe is the same as the app you asked about:

 

https://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/capti-narrator-ios-listen-everything-you-want-read

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anybody Used Capti Voice

 

Has anybody here tried Capti Voice? It’s a reading app for iOS that you can use 
for Bookshare among other things, and it’s free. The description sounds pretty 
good.

If anyone here has used it, can you say how it compares with VoiceDream Reader? 
That one also sounds pretty good.

Thanks.

Evan

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RE: Musings about Sonos, their upcoming Alexa integration and the Homepod

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Angie,

If you had a Connect which has 3 output options (RCA analogue, Toslink optical 
and Coax Digital) you could buy any high-end Senheiser or other digital 
wireless headset and use it that way. Some of the high end ones do have Optical 
or Coax digital inputs which of course would give you the best sound quality. 
Alternatively if you had a good quality headphone amp you could hook it up to 
any one of these outputs on the Connect and then plug in any wired headphones 
you may have.
I do happen to have several Connect players and could go this route, but have 
always hesitated to see if Sonos won’t finally change their tune so to speak 
and decide to make integrated audio file quality Sonos Headphones.
Now I am going to wait a bit more to see if you can connect to the new Apple 
Homepod with bluetooth, typically bluetooth earphones are not quite as good as 
a pair of high-end digital wireless headphones, but there are some pretty good 
ones out there. I guess this would actually be another option to use a headset 
with Sonos, buy a RCA or 3.5mm bluetooth dongle and plug it into the back of 
the Connect and use any bluetooth headset you may already own. To be honest 
quite often I just use it for listening to an audio book anyways so audio file 
quality doesn’t really matter for that.
I am lucky in that I have one of the original Play 5 players which back in 2011 
or 2012 when it came out was called the S5, it looks very similar to the older 
Play 5 models since the newer ones now have those touch sensitive controls, but 
mine has both a 3.5mm Line In which I think they still have nowadays, but it 
also has a 3.5mm headphone jack or line out jack. I believe this was the only 
player they ever made who has a headphone jack. When my Dad comes to visit (he 
is hard of hearing) I plug in a set of basic headphones for him and then group 
the S5 with my Playbar which then means he can listen to his german TV channels 
using the headset without driving my Mom and me crazy because otherwise he 
turns it up way loud.
I may have to look into this bluetooth dongle idea, it really only occurred to 
me as I was writing this, but that might be a good option for me right now. 
Have to check on Amazon, ideally I could find one that could plug into the 
digital optical or Coax Digital output on one of my Connects.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Musings about Sonos, their upcoming Alexa integration and the 
Homepod

Hi Sieghard

As to the Headphone thing: last time I looked on Sonos’ website the wording 
suggests they aren’t interested in doing such a thing but of course that could 
change in the future. I, like you, would like such a thing as Sonos headphones 
or something similar. Do you know if there is any kind of Headphones which can 
do this? I’ve not come across such and if there are not, then Sonos are 
probably quite safe from that point of view.

All the best
Angie
On 9 Jun 2017, at 18:08, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi,

Just called Sonos to give some general feedback on the new Apple Homepod and 
the recently announced capabilities of Airplay2 which will allow users who have 
compatible Airplay devices to send music throughout the house similar to what 
Sonos can do. I just wanted to give them the opinion of one of their loyal 
customers because I have always thought the lack of native Airplay support once 
Apple announced it is a mistake. Now I think so even more because people will 
be able to buy all sorts of speakers at a number of price points from 
relatively inexpensive to high-end and of course Apples own Homepod will I 
think be a serious competitor to the Play 3 and Play 5 offering but it will 
also be smart and while it may initially be not as smart as Alexa or Google 
Home it will still be a lot smarter than a Play 3 or Play 5 which may have done 
Kindergarten when it comes to smartness, but not much more.

In any case, during my call the Sonos rep told me that they are currently 
focusing on Alexa integration so I guess those who do have an Amazon Echo as 
well as one or more Sonos players can by the end of the year tell Alexa to 
"Play the top hits of 1986 on Sonos Bedroom", not sure exact what one would 
have to say and I guess it depends a bit on whether you use Spotify or another 
service which you may have to specify in your command as well. This will add a 
lot of third-party smartness to Sonos, but of course it benefits only customers 
in the US and as far as I know the UK and Germany which are the only countries 
where the Amazon Echo is officially available. I understand that quite a few 
people here in Canada have an Amazon Echo, but I for one am not really 
interested in bending over backwards to buy one in the first place and then 
maybe do whatever else is required 

Re: Itunes for windows - need assistance

[Robert Doc Wright]

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  - Original Message - 
  From: denise avant 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:35 PM
  Subject: Itunes for windows - need assistance


  Hello all,

  I have a windows 10 machine. I successfully signed into my account. However, 
I’m having several problems.

  First, under the accounts menu, it continues to show my name and account as 
being dimmed.

  Second, I just got the iPhone 7, and while all of my iCloud contacts are on 
my phone, it seems I cannot get them to sync with my Windows 10 machine. I was 
able to get them to sync before when I had the 6s_+. I was able to get them in 
outlook, and now I cannot.

  Can anyone make suggestions on any of these problems? Thanks.

  Oh by the way, I am using JAWS 18 for a screen reader, and have the latest 
version of windows.

   

   

   


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RE: Problems with iTunes for Windows and new 7s

[M. Taylor]

Hello Denise,

Your previous message on this topic was successfully posted to the list.

For the most comprehensive list of steps in order to complete your desired 
configuration, you should perform a Google search.

However, given that you already have iTunes on your PC, the broad steps, in 
order to see your iCloud items in Outlook in Windows 10 are as follows:

1.
>From the Windows Start/search menu, type in the search string that begins with 
>the word Apple.  In the results list, you should see an item listed as Apple 
>Software Update.

2.
Run the Apple software updater and select to install the Windows iCloud Control 
Panel.

3.
Follow the prompts to install the control panel and then restart your computer. 
 

4.
Upon restart, you will be given options in the iCloud control panel that will 
allow you to configure iCloud with Microsoft Outlook.

Again, I strongly suggest that you search for how to configure the iCloud 
control panel in Windows in order to get a very detailed list of step-by-step 
instructions.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
denise avant
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problems with iTunes for Windows and new 7s

Hello all,
I attempted to send this message before. I don’t know if it made it to the list.
In any case, I am having some problems with iTunes for Windows. I am running 
the latest version of iTunes, and the latest version of windows 10.
When I go to my account under iTunes, it has my name and Apple id as being 
unavailable.  I have successfully authorized my computer, and I have signed 
into iTunes, as I can see all of my purchased songs from I-Cloud.
Also, I maintained my contacts on my new phone. They are in I-cloud. But I 
can’t seem to get them to sync with outlook. They definitely did when I had the 
6s)+. I am running the latest version of JAWS. If anyone can be of assistance, 
I would appreciate it. Thank you.



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RE: Braille Authority of North America survey about proposed changes to UEB

[M. Taylor]

This is great, Rich.  

Thank you for posting it.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:35 AM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)'
Subject: Braille Authority of North America survey about proposed changes to UEB

I was just made aware of this survey.  I know there are a lot of braille 
readers out there, so am passing this along.

From: "Kim.Charlson--- via BANA-Announce" 
Date: June 10, 2017 at 7:36:25 PM PDT
To: 
Subject: [BANA-Announce] Survey on Quotation Marks & Apostrophes in UEB
Reply-To: 
The UEB Code Maintenance Committee is seeking opinions on a possible change to 
the representation of single quotation marks and apostrophes in UEB.

An explanatory document (in print and braille) and survey link are located on 
the ICEB home page at www.iceb.org. 

Please spread the word of the survey through your local listservs, social 
media, newsletters, meetings and word-of-mouth. 

It is important that we reach as many people as possible. Adults who read a lot 
of electronic braille, adults who read mainly hard copy braille, teachers of 
children learning braille and braille transcribers are all likely to hold 
different opinions and their voices need to be heard. Moreover, there is a big 
difference in the predominance of single quotation marks in print across 
countries. 

The survey will be open for the month of June.

The Code Maintenance Committee (CMC) of the International Council on English 
Braille (ICEB) would like your input on possible changes to the braille 
representation of single quotation marks and the apostrophe to facilitate 
translation and reading on electronic braille devices. The explanatory document 
gives an explanation of the problem and the options under consideration. 
(Thanks to James Bowden, UK, and Leona Holloway, Australia, for their work on 
this.) 

After reading the information, please complete the survey at 

www.surveymonkey.com/r/UEB-apostrophe [1] 

to indicate your preference. The CMC will use the results of the survey to 
guide their decision on this issue. 

The survey will be available until the end of June. If necessary, this time 
frame may be extended. 

Please share this message with any colleagues who may be interested (with 
apologies for all the cross-postings I hope this will generate). 

Thanks for your attention to this issue. 

With best regards, 

Phyllis Landon
ICEB Code Maintenance Officer 

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Anybody Used Capti Voice

[Evan Reese]

Has anybody here tried Capti Voice? It’s a reading app for iOS that you can use 
for Bookshare among other things, and it’s free. The description sounds pretty 
good.
If anyone here has used it, can you say how it compares with VoiceDream Reader? 
That one also sounds pretty good.
Thanks.
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Problems with iTunes for Windows and new 7s

[denise avant]

Hello all,

I attempted to send this message before. I don't know if it made it to the
list.

In any case, I am having some problems with iTunes for Windows. I am running
the latest version of iTunes, and the latest version of windows 10.

When I go to my account under iTunes, it has my name and Apple id as being
unavailable.  I have successfully authorized my computer, and I have signed
into iTunes, as I can see all of my purchased songs from I-Cloud.

Also, I maintained my contacts on my new phone. They are in I-cloud. But I
can't seem to get them to sync with outlook. They definitely did when I had
the 6s)+. I am running the latest version of JAWS. If anyone can be of
assistance, I would appreciate it. Thank you.

 

 

 

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Itunes for windows - need assistance

[denise avant]

Hello all,

I have a windows 10 machine. I successfully signed into my account. However,
I'm having several problems.

First, under the accounts menu, it continues to show my name and account as
being dimmed.

Second, I just got the iPhone 7, and while all of my iCloud contacts are on
my phone, it seems I cannot get them to sync with my Windows 10 machine. I
was able to get them to sync before when I had the 6s_+. I was able to get
them in outlook, and now I cannot.

Can anyone make suggestions on any of these problems? Thanks.

Oh by the way, I am using JAWS 18 for a screen reader, and have the latest
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re: using bible app with braille display

[Wayne Scott]

I'm wondering the same thing.

- Original Message -
From: Rebecca Ilniski 

Re: Connect your iCloud account to Alexa if you can

[Mary Otten]

Sorry, I didn't have any luck. I have given up on it for now. Since I never had 
any luck with android device in Apple Music using this method, I have decided 
that it just doesn't work for me.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 8:14 AM, candyrl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mary, I tried all day yesterday with no luck.  Last night I had a sighted 
> person who is quite techy to do it for me.  I was not at home so I couldn't 
> test Alexa until I got home.  She is able to tell me if I have any events on 
> a specific date, but, when I tell her to create an event, she says she can 
> not access my calendar.  I use my apple calendar for everything because it 
> will also appear on my husbands iPad, and, therefore, he has access to all of 
> our jobs as well.  When I get home from work this afternoon, I will work on 
> it so more.  Please let me know if you have had any luck setting it up.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It is now supposed to be possible to connect your iCloud account with Alexa. 
>> To do so, you have to go into your Apple ID security settings and create an 
>> app specific password. I did that. I carefully copied it out using my PC to 
>> type it, since I could not get the Apple text selection feature to work on 
>> the newly created password. Password is supposed to be case sensitive. I was 
>> careful about that. So I typed it in and of course it didn't work. This is 
>> the second time, the other being Apple Music on android, where this has not 
>> worked for me. If anyone else tries this and actually get it to work, I will 
>> be most curious.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: using bible app with braille display

[Michael McKay]

Hello! Rebecca: I just found your email on the List concerning a good Bible app 
with a braille display. I do not yet have a braille display. However, I have 
found that one of the best Bible apps, is the "You Version Bible App. I use it 
along with a few other Bible apps on my iPhone 6, and I think it's also useable 
on the iPad if you choose to use it on that. It is very accessible with 
voiceover. Hope this helps.

Blessings!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay 1...@gmail.com

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> On Jun 11, 2017, at 11:10, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Does anyone know of a good bible app that is good with a braille 
> display? I used to like the bible app but they changed it recently and it 
> doesn't work as well. I like the NASB version. Thanks.
> 
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Braille Authority of North America survey about proposed changes to UEB

[Richard Turner]

I was just made aware of this survey.  I know there are a lot of braille 
readers out there, so am passing this along.

From: "Kim.Charlson--- via BANA-Announce" 
>
Date: June 10, 2017 at 7:36:25 PM PDT
To: 
>
Subject: [BANA-Announce] Survey on Quotation Marks & Apostrophes in UEB
Reply-To: >
The UEB Code Maintenance Committee is seeking opinions on a possible change to 
the representation of single quotation marks and apostrophes in UEB.

An explanatory document (in print and braille) and survey link are located on 
the ICEB home page at www.iceb.org.

Please spread the word of the survey through your local listservs, social 
media, newsletters, meetings and word-of-mouth.

It is important that we reach as many people as possible. Adults who read a lot 
of electronic braille, adults who read mainly hard copy braille, teachers of 
children learning braille and braille transcribers are all likely to hold 
different opinions and their voices need to be heard. Moreover, there is a big 
difference in the predominance of single quotation marks in print across 
countries.

The survey will be open for the month of June.

The Code Maintenance Committee (CMC) of the International Council on English 
Braille (ICEB) would like your input on possible changes to the braille 
representation of single quotation marks and the apostrophe to facilitate 
translation and reading on electronic braille devices. The explanatory document 
gives an explanation of the problem and the options under consideration. 
(Thanks to James Bowden, UK, and Leona Holloway, Australia, for their work on 
this.)

After reading the information, please complete the survey at

www.surveymonkey.com/r/UEB-apostrophe
 [1]

to indicate your preference. The CMC will use the results of the survey to 
guide their decision on this issue.

The survey will be available until the end of June. If necessary, this time 
frame may be extended.

Please share this message with any colleagues who may be interested (with 
apologies for all the cross-postings I hope this will generate).

Thanks for your attention to this issue.

With best regards,

Phyllis Landon
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Re: Connect your iCloud account to Alexa if you can

[candyrlowe]

Mary, I tried all day yesterday with no luck.  Last night I had a sighted 
person who is quite techy to do it for me.  I was not at home so I couldn't 
test Alexa until I got home.  She is able to tell me if I have any events on a 
specific date, but, when I tell her to create an event, she says she can not 
access my calendar.  I use my apple calendar for everything because it will 
also appear on my husbands iPad, and, therefore, he has access to all of our 
jobs as well.  When I get home from work this afternoon, I will work on it so 
more.  Please let me know if you have had any luck setting it up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It is now supposed to be possible to connect your iCloud account with Alexa. 
> To do so, you have to go into your Apple ID security settings and create an 
> app specific password. I did that. I carefully copied it out using my PC to 
> type it, since I could not get the Apple text selection feature to work on 
> the newly created password. Password is supposed to be case sensitive. I was 
> careful about that. So I typed it in and of course it didn't work. This is 
> the second time, the other being Apple Music on android, where this has not 
> worked for me. If anyone else tries this and actually get it to work, I will 
> be most curious.
> Mary
> 
> 
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using bible app with braille display

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi all. Does anyone know of a good bible app that is good with a braille 
display? I used to like the bible app but they changed it recently and it 
doesn't work as well. I like the NASB version. Thanks.

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Re: Musings about Sonos, their upcoming Alexa integration and the Homepod

[Angie Nutt]

Hi Sieghard

As to the Headphone thing: last time I looked on Sonos’ website the wording 
suggests they aren’t interested in doing such a thing but of course that could 
change in the future. I, like you, would like such a thing as Sonos headphones 
or something similar. Do you know if there is any kind of Headphones which can 
do this? I’ve not come across such and if there are not, then Sonos are 
probably quite safe from that point of view.

All the best
Angie
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 18:08, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Just called Sonos to give some general feedback on the new Apple Homepod and 
> the recently announced capabilities of Airplay2 which will allow users who 
> have compatible Airplay devices to send music throughout the house similar to 
> what Sonos can do. I just wanted to give them the opinion of one of their 
> loyal customers because I have always thought the lack of native Airplay 
> support once Apple announced it is a mistake. Now I think so even more 
> because people will be able to buy all sorts of speakers at a number of price 
> points from relatively inexpensive to high-end and of course Apples own 
> Homepod will I think be a serious competitor to the Play 3 and Play 5 
> offering but it will also be smart and while it may initially be not as smart 
> as Alexa or Google Home it will still be a lot smarter than a Play 3 or Play 
> 5 which may have done Kindergarten when it comes to smartness, but not much 
> more.
>  
> In any case, during my call the Sonos rep told me that they are currently 
> focusing on Alexa integration so I guess those who do have an Amazon Echo as 
> well as one or more Sonos players can by the end of the year tell Alexa to 
> "Play the top hits of 1986 on Sonos Bedroom", not sure exact what one would 
> have to say and I guess it depends a bit on whether you use Spotify or 
> another service which you may have to specify in your command as well. This 
> will add a lot of third-party smartness to Sonos, but of course it benefits 
> only customers in the US and as far as I know the UK and Germany which are 
> the only countries where the Amazon Echo is officially available. I 
> understand that quite a few people here in Canada have an Amazon Echo, but I 
> for one am not really interested in bending over backwards to buy one in the 
> first place and then maybe do whatever else is required to take full 
> advantage of it. As far as I am concerned if Amazon is not interested in 
> making this available in Canada then whichever other company does will get my 
> business. The Echo has been around for 3 years now and I don't quite get it 
> when it comes to making it available elsewhere.
>  
> I also again mentioned that I am very disappointed that Sonos still has not 
> released truely audio file quality headphones which act as a Sonos player 
> meaning they would show up in the Sonos app as a player just as any other 
> Sonos device so you can play something to them, group them with other Sonos 
> devices etc. The rep told me they have been focusing on "home audio played 
> out loud" and now with their Playbar (soundbar) and the new "Playbase" which 
> is a speaker the TV can stand on they are really trying to cover the living 
> room so that both people who mount their TV have an option (the pLaybar) and 
> those who want it standing on a cabinet can put the Playbase underneath it. 
> However, given the explosion of headphones and headsets and all of that I 
> still think it's a mistake Sonos hasn't tackled this yet, they should have 
> headphones which are a Sonos device as well as support bluetooth and Airplay. 
> I haven't heard anythig as to whether Apple's Homepod has bluetooth which 
> would allow you to connect a bluetooth headset to it for private listening or 
> if maybe it even has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> which you can group with other devices or use by themselves and
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