Re: wondering, is there a bluetooth keyboard case for ipad Mini

[TaraPrakash]

I found several on amazon for ipad mini4. Ranging between 27 and about 80$. 



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> On Jul 1, 2017, at 7:09 PM, alex stone  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know, but I would think there must be. I’ve bought cases for my iPad 
> Air from Anker.com, and I’d be surprised if they don’t have what you want.
> 
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>> On 1 Jul 2017, at 23:17, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I was wondering, is there any such thing as a bluetooth, keyboard case, 
>> for the iPad Mini, 4th generation model?
>> 
>> If so, how might I go about finding 1 of these?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
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Re: wondering, is there a bluetooth keyboard case for ipad Mini

[alex stone]

I don’t know, but I would think there must be. I’ve bought cases for my iPad 
Air from Anker.com, and I’d be surprised if they don’t have what you want.

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> On 1 Jul 2017, at 23:17, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, is there any such thing as a bluetooth, keyboard case, 
> for the iPad Mini, 4th generation model?
> 
> If so, how might I go about finding 1 of these?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: wondering, is there a bluetooth keyboard case for ipad Mini

[Richard Turner]

Try doing a google search for;
iPad mini 4 keyboard case 
You will find lots to choose from.

Richard



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Subject: wondering, is there a bluetooth keyboard case for ipad Mini

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, is there any such thing as a bluetooth, keyboard case, 
for the iPad Mini, 4th generation model?

If so, how might I go about finding 1 of these?


Thank you,


Terri

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wondering, is there a bluetooth keyboard case for ipad Mini

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, is there any such thing as a bluetooth, keyboard case, 
for the iPad Mini, 4th generation model?

If so, how might I go about finding 1 of these?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: A question about dictation

[Mary Otten]

 That method of holding down the home button and saying  send a message to John 
followed by what you want to say works quite well. That is my standard method 
of sending text messages, and as long as there are no gross dictation errors, 
it works great and you can send a full paragraph or so without Siri the siding 
you had enough.
Mary


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> On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s just it.  You  would have to manually enter who it is going to, then 
> double tap in the message edit box, then you could use the standard dictate 
> feature.
> But, if yu ask Siri to send a text message to John, you won’t have the chance 
> to use dictation.
> I don’t know what happens if you hold the home button down and say send a 
> text to john and say x, and don’t let up until you are finished.
>  
> Might be worth a try.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A question about dictation
>  
> Hi Paul,
>  
> Okay, I've never used the Dictate feature, but just tried playing around with 
> it a little bit.  How do you insert to whom you want the text message or 
> email sent to, before dictating your message into the edit / message field?
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Sandoval
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: A question about dictation
>  
> Mike,
>  
> One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish 
> Siri to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with 
> pausing. I do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause 
> and resume dictation using the 2 finger double tap. 
> I hope this is of some help.
>  
> #GoRockies
> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
>  
> Hi Richard,
>  
> When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give you 
> a little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're 
> dictating & trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks 
> are you ready to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
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> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
> Subject: RE: A question about dictation
>  
> Just say, new line.
> Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> TaraPrakash
> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 10:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A question about dictation
> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
> option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?
>  
> With appreciation 
> 
> T
> for your responses  
> 
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Re: A question about dictation

[TaraPrakash]

Thank you all.
I don't know why Richard's message did not reach me directly  but I still 
managed to get his response below another message on the thread
I am dictating right now and trying the suggestion it seems to be working

Thank you so much 
Richard 


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> On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish 
> Siri to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with 
> pausing. I do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause 
> and resume dictation using the 2 finger double tap. 
> I hope this is of some help.
> 
> #GoRockies
>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give 
>> you a little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're 
>> dictating & trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks 
>> are you ready to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
>> Subject: RE: A question about dictation
>> 
>> Just say, new line.
>> Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 10:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A question about dictation
>> 
>> Hi all. 
>> 
>> Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
>> option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?
>>  
>> With appreciation 
>> 
>> T
>> for your responses  
>> 
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Re: A question about dictation

[Mike B.]

Hi Paul & Richard,

Thank you both very much for the excellent suggestions & tips!  It is indeed 
greatly appreciated.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Sandoval
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: A question about dictation


Mike,


You will have to manually type the person’s name if in your contacts, or the 
phone number/email address in to the “to” box. The nice thing is, if they 
are in your contacts, you should only have to type part of the name and you 
will find a list of suggestions below the “to” box. Double tap the 
appropriate suggestion and then find the message field and double tap it. At 
this point you can dictate all you wish. I’ve gotten in the habit of not 
deleting my text messages so I can just find a prior conversation and can 
easily message someone.
I hope this helps.


  On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  Hi Paul,

  Okay, I've never used the Dictate feature, but just tried playing around 
with it a little bit.  How do you insert to whom you want the text message 
or email sent to, before dictating your message into the edit / message 
field?
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sent from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Sandoval
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: A question about dictation


  Mike,


  One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish 
Siri to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with 
pausing. I do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause 
and resume dictation using the 2 finger double tap.
  I hope this is of some help.


  #GoRockies

On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


Hi Richard,

When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to 
give you a little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when 
you're dictating & trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden 
Siri asks are you ready to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: A question about dictation


Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of TaraPrakash
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question about dictation

Hi all.

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the 
only option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?

With appreciation

T
for your responses

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Re: A question about dictation

[Paul Sandoval]

Mike,

You will have to manually type the person’s name if in your contacts, or the 
phone number/email address in to the “to” box. The nice thing is, if they are 
in your contacts, you should only have to type part of the name and you will 
find a list of suggestions below the “to” box. Double tap the appropriate 
suggestion and then find the message field and double tap it. At this point you 
can dictate all you wish. I’ve gotten in the habit of not deleting my text 
messages so I can just find a prior conversation and can easily message someone.
I hope this helps.

On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Okay, I've never used the Dictate feature, but just tried playing around with 
it a little bit.  How do you insert to whom you want the text message or email 
sent to, before dictating your message into the edit / message field?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Paul Sandoval
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: A question about dictation

Mike,

One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish Siri 
to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with pausing. I 
do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause and resume 
dictation using the 2 finger double tap.
I hope this is of some help.

#GoRockies
On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

Hi Richard,

When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give you a 
little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're dictating 
& trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks are you ready 
to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: A question about dictation

Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


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Subject: A question about dictation

Hi all.

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?

With appreciation

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RE: A question about dictation

[Richard Turner]

That’s just it.  You  would have to manually enter who it is going to, then 
double tap in the message edit box, then you could use the standard dictate 
feature.
But, if yu ask Siri to send a text message to John, you won’t have the chance 
to use dictation.
I don’t know what happens if you hold the home button down and say send a text 
to john and say x, and don’t let up until you are finished.

Might be worth a try.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question about dictation

Hi Paul,

Okay, I've never used the Dictate feature, but just tried playing around with 
it a little bit.  How do you insert to whom you want the text message or email 
sent to, before dictating your message into the edit / message field?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Paul Sandoval
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: A question about dictation

Mike,

One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish Siri 
to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with pausing. I 
do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause and resume 
dictation using the 2 finger double tap.
I hope this is of some help.

#GoRockies
On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

Hi Richard,

When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give you a 
little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're dictating 
& trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks are you ready 
to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: A question about dictation

Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


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Subject: A question about dictation

Hi all.

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?

With appreciation

T
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Re: A question about dictation

[Mike B.]

Hi Paul,

Okay, I've never used the Dictate feature, but just tried playing around 
with it a little bit.  How do you insert to whom you want the text message 
or email sent to, before dictating your message into the edit / message 
field?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Paul Sandoval
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: A question about dictation


Mike,


One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish 
Siri to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with 
pausing. I do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause 
and resume dictation using the 2 finger double tap.
I hope this is of some help.


#GoRockies

  On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  Hi Richard,

  When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give 
you a little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're 
dictating & trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks 
are you ready to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sent from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
  Subject: RE: A question about dictation


  Just say, new line.
  Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

  Richard


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  Subject: A question about dictation

  Hi all.

  Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the 
only option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?

  With appreciation

  T
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Re: A question about dictation

[Paul Sandoval]

Mike,

One thing you can do is hold the home button the entire time that you wish Siri 
to listen to you, this should eliminate the problems you have with pausing. I 
do agree that using dictation seems easier because you can pause and resume 
dictation using the 2 finger double tap.
I hope this is of some help.

#GoRockies
On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

Hi Richard,

When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give you a 
little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're dictating 
& trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks are you ready 
to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: A question about dictation

Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


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Subject: A question about dictation

Hi all.

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?

With appreciation

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RE: A question about dictation

[Richard Turner]

You could try standing on your head and singing, grin,  but I think you will 
find that there is nothing you can do to get Siri to wait.
It is very impatient in my humble opinion.
So, one has to have their thoughts together before starting.  That is why I 
often write it out using MBraile and pasting it in.

Later,
Richard


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Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: A question about dictation

Hi Richard,

When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give you a 
little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're dictating 
& trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks are you ready 
to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: A question about dictation

Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


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Subject: A question about dictation

Hi all.

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
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With appreciation

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Re: A question about dictation

[pegkane52]

Hi,
I don't know if this is correct, but it seems as though I do better when I 
dictate a message and need more time rather than using Siri. I do use her quite 
a bit for dictating messages but I feel like I have a little more time using 
the dictation feature.
Take care.
Peggy Kane

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give you 
> a little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're 
> dictating & trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks 
> are you ready to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
> Subject: RE: A question about dictation
> 
> Just say, new line.
> Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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> TaraPrakash
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A question about dictation
> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
> option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?
>  
> With appreciation 
> 
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Re: A question about dictation

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

When dictating a text message for example, how do you adjust Siri to give 
you a little longer pause time in between sentences?  You know, when you're 
dictating & trying to gather your thoughts, & then all the sudden Siri asks 
are you ready to send?  Or, is this even possible?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: A question about dictation


Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


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Subject: A question about dictation

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Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
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With appreciation

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RE: How to get pictures off an iPod onto a PC

[Alan Lemly]

Keith,

 

When I attach my iPhone 7 to my Windows 7 computer with its lightning cable, an 
AutoPlay dialog box pops up with options to:

 

1.   Import pictures and videos using Windows

2.   Import pictures and videos using Dropbox

3.   Other options not relevant to your question.

 

I've had success in the past using option 1 to transfer photos from my iPhone 
to my computer and it's the route I'd recommend for your daughter.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to get pictures off an iPod onto a PC

 

Hi,

 

My daughter has an iPod with lots of photos. She’s gearing up to get an iPhone 
in the next few weeks.

 

She wants to get photos off the iPod onto her PC.

 

Can someone please remind me how this is done’t, so I can help her?

 

And, will this process work for videos made with the iPod, too?

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: How to get pictures off an iPod onto a PC

[Kliphton Miller]

Why not just use iPhoto, or iCloud backup.  If you don’t like those options, 
use google photos, it has unlimited storage for photos and videos, and allows 
you to download copies whenever you want.
> On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> My daughter has an iPod with lots of photos. She’s gearing up to get an 
> iPhone in the next few weeks.
>  
> She wants to get photos off the iPod onto her PC.
>  
> Can someone please remind me how this is done’t, so I can help her?
>  
> And, will this process work for videos made with the iPod, too?
>  
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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How to get pictures off an iPod onto a PC

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

My daughter has an iPod with lots of photos. She's gearing up to get an iPhone 
in the next few weeks.

She wants to get photos off the iPod onto her PC.

Can someone please remind me how this is done't, so I can help her?

And, will this process work for videos made with the iPod, too?

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

[Michael Malver]

So is the Disney anywhere app, and so was the movie reading app. One feature 
that this app has though, but I think it's really cool, is the ability to 
download both amplified Audio and Audio description in the same mix.

> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is designed for movie theaters.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Malver
> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)
> 
> What a silly design. I shouldn't have to use headphones if I am watching the
> movie at home. I hope that they fix that. After all, if they hope to add
> more movies, it stands to reason the movies they do have will be available
> through streaming services which might not choose to carry the description
> for that particular title.
> 
> Michael
> 
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> Of Richard Turner
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> Subject: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)
> 
> I copied the below from the AppleVis newsletter.  This is a new approach to
> getting audio description in the theater using your iPhone.
> They only have Cars 3 right now, but are planning to have more movies soon.
> The more people that download the app and go through the tutorial, the more
> insentive both the developer and Hollywood have in making movies with audio
> description available this way.  Note, when you start the app for the first
> time, you will need wired headphones plugged in because when you get to the
> download portion, it won't work without headphones, to train us that we
> won't be able to annoy the people around us in the movie theater by playing
> the audio description over the iPhone speaker, grin.
> They recommend downloading the movie content over WiFi at home so you won't
> have to use cellular data at the theater.
> 
> 
> Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)
> 
> Actiview is your all-in-one app for accessibility content at the movies!
> 
> When you go to an Actiview enabled movie theater, connect to the Wi-Fi and
> choose from the available services, including:
> 
> -Audio Description -Amplified Audio -Closed Captioning -Multi-language
> Captioning -Sign Language Interpretation
> 
> All of this content will be synced to the movie and streamed right to your
> device, no other setup required!
> 
> Current Version: 2.0.2 (June 16, 2017)
> 
> Read Actiview's AppleVis iOS App Directory entry for more
> information ed-entertainment>
> Visit Actiview's App Store
> page 121187?mt=8=11l4LS>
> 
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RE: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

[Richard Turner]

OK.  A little more trial and error and it is now working on the 5S.
Thanks,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

Not working on a 5S 4-finger left/right to nobe between apps? How come on my 5S 
it's working great? The trick is how you place your four finger onscreen: kind 
of squished together. Good luck!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 01/07/2017, a las 7:56 a.m., Richard Turner 
> escribió:
Sandra, keep the expanding memory working, but this one is rather inconsistent, 
or at least I’m rather inconsistent with it.
On my 5S, I got it to work a couple times.
On a system I can’t discuss, I have not been able to get it to work.
I’m going to hold off on this one until I am sure I can make it work and 
describe it fairly briefly.
I noticed that the four finger swipe left and right seems to work on the iPhone 
6 and later.  It does not work on my 5S.
I will move that out of the iPad section with that caveat.

Thanks for helping get this list as complete as possible.

Richard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

hi Richard,
because you're wonderful list is "ever expanding", so is my investigative 
memory! I think you haven't mentioned this one: and I am not sure if I have it 
exactly right, but I do use it very often: with the rotor said two words, flick 
down once to the end of a targeted word, then double tap and hold, you get a 
list of edit functions, sometimes immediately to the left of the cursor and 
sometimes at the very bottom right of the screen, this seems to vary, one of 
which being "look up". double tap that and the dictionary opens. you will get a 
list of dictionary definitions, including other languages, if you have those 
enabled. not sure how you would describe this in a quick and Zappy form… but it 
is a key and, I suspect, underused function of iOS.

thanks for compiling this list, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 30 Jun 2017, at 20:09, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
VoiceOver Gestures
Navigate and read
• Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
• Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
• Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  Depends on 
the rotor setting. * Also used to access various options on apps, Email 
messages, etc.  Anywhere VoiceOver says "Actions available."
• Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going to turn 
a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right Select the next or 
previous rotor item.  Examples of items on the rotor are: speech rate, 
character, word, line, heading. You can add other items to the rotor in the 
VoiceOver settings.
• Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
• Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
• Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
• To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger scrub: Move 
two fingers rapidly in a small circle or slide two fingers back and forth three 
times quickly (making a “z”)
• Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one finger and swipe down with two 
fingers; only works if Speak Screen is turned on in settings, general, 
accessibility, speech.  VO will continue reading even if the screen is locked.
• Scroll one page up or down at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
• Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or previous 
page (on the Home screen.
• Open Notification Center: touch the status bar and swipe down with three 
fingers.
• Open Control Panel: Touch status bar and swipe up with three fingers.
• Open Spotlight Search: Touch on the home screen below the status bar and 
above the dock and swipe down with three fingers.
• Speak additional information, such as position within a list or whether text 
is selected: Three-finger tap.
• Copy last thing spoken by VoiceOver to the clipboard: three-finger quadruple 
tap.
• Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
• Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
Activate
• Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
• Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with one 
finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first finger on the 
screen.
• When a non-VoiceOver user needs to Double-tap an item: VO users need to 
Triple-tap with one finger.
• Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard gesture. 
The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the 

Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

[Gerardo Corripio]

Not working on a 5S 4-finger left/right to nobe between apps? How come on my 5S 
it's working great? The trick is how you place your four finger onscreen: kind 
of squished together. Good luck!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 01/07/2017, a las 7:56 a.m., Richard Turner  
> escribió:
> 
> Sandra, keep the expanding memory working, but this one is rather 
> inconsistent, or at least I’m rather inconsistent with it.
> On my 5S, I got it to work a couple times.
> On a system I can’t discuss, I have not been able to get it to work.
> I’m going to hold off on this one until I am sure I can make it work and 
> describe it fairly briefly.
> I noticed that the four finger swipe left and right seems to work on the 
> iPhone 6 and later.  It does not work on my 5S.
> I will move that out of the iPad section with that caveat.
>  
> Thanks for helping get this list as complete as possible.
>  
> Richard
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures
>  
> hi Richard,
> because you're wonderful list is "ever expanding", so is my investigative 
> memory! I think you haven't mentioned this one: and I am not sure if I have 
> it exactly right, but I do use it very often: with the rotor said two words, 
> flick down once to the end of a targeted word, then double tap and hold, you 
> get a list of edit functions, sometimes immediately to the left of the cursor 
> and sometimes at the very bottom right of the screen, this seems to vary, one 
> of which being "look up". double tap that and the dictionary opens. you will 
> get a list of dictionary definitions, including other languages, if you have 
> those enabled. not sure how you would describe this in a quick and Zappy 
> form… but it is a key and, I suspect, underused function of iOS.
>  
> thanks for compiling this list, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 30 Jun 2017, at 20:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> VoiceOver Gestures
> Navigate and read
> • Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
> • Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
> • Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  Depends on 
> the rotor setting. * Also used to access various options on apps, Email 
> messages, etc.  Anywhere VoiceOver says "Actions available."
> • Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going to 
> turn a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right Select the 
> next or previous rotor  item.  Examples of items on the rotor are: speech 
> rate, character, word, line, heading. You can add other items to the rotor in 
> the VoiceOver settings.
> • Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
> • Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
> • Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
> • To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger scrub: 
> Move two fingers rapidly in a small circle or slide two fingers back and 
> forth three times quickly (making a “z”)
> • Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one finger and swipe down with two 
> fingers; only works if Speak Screen is turned on in settings, general, 
> accessibility, speech.  VO will continue reading even if the screen is locked.
> • Scroll one page up or down at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
> • Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or previous 
> page (on the Home screen.
> • Open Notification Center: touch the status bar and swipe down with three 
> fingers.
> • Open Control Panel: Touch status bar and swipe up with three fingers.
> • Open Spotlight Search: Touch on the home screen below the status bar and 
> above the dock and swipe down with three fingers.
> • Speak additional information, such as position within a list or whether 
> text is selected: Three-finger tap.
> • Copy last thing spoken by VoiceOver to the clipboard: three-finger 
> quadruple tap.
> • Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
> • Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
> Activate
> • Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
> • Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with one 
> finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first finger on 
> the screen.
> • When a non-VoiceOver user needs to Double-tap an item: VO users need to 
> Triple-tap with one finger.
> • Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard gesture. 
> The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the next gesture as 
> standard. For example, you can double-tap and hold your finger on the screen 
> until you hear three rising tones, and then without lifting your finger, drag 
> your finger on a slider.  (Also known as the Pass 

RE: A question about dictation

[Richard Turner]

Just say, new line.
Or, New paragraph if you want a new paragraph.

Richard


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Subject: A question about dictation

Hi all. 

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?
 
With appreciation 

T
for your responses  

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A question about dictation

[TaraPrakash]

Hi all. 

Is there a verbal command to change the line during dictation?  Or the only 
option is to pause and then change the line and then resume dictation?
 
With appreciation 

T
for your responses  

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

[Richard Turner]

It is designed for movie theaters.

Richard


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Michael Malver
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

What a silly design. I shouldn't have to use headphones if I am watching the
movie at home. I hope that they fix that. After all, if they hope to add
more movies, it stands to reason the movies they do have will be available
through streaming services which might not choose to carry the description
for that particular title.

Michael

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 11:39 AM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

I copied the below from the AppleVis newsletter.  This is a new approach to
getting audio description in the theater using your iPhone.
They only have Cars 3 right now, but are planning to have more movies soon.
The more people that download the app and go through the tutorial, the more
insentive both the developer and Hollywood have in making movies with audio
description available this way.  Note, when you start the app for the first
time, you will need wired headphones plugged in because when you get to the
download portion, it won't work without headphones, to train us that we
won't be able to annoy the people around us in the movie theater by playing
the audio description over the iPhone speaker, grin.
They recommend downloading the movie content over WiFi at home so you won't
have to use cellular data at the theater.


Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

Actiview is your all-in-one app for accessibility content at the movies!

When you go to an Actiview enabled movie theater, connect to the Wi-Fi and
choose from the available services, including:

-Audio Description -Amplified Audio -Closed Captioning -Multi-language
Captioning -Sign Language Interpretation

All of this content will be synced to the movie and streamed right to your
device, no other setup required!

Current Version: 2.0.2 (June 16, 2017)

Read Actiview's AppleVis iOS App Directory entry for more
information
Visit Actiview's App Store
page



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RE: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

[Michael Malver]

What a silly design. I shouldn't have to use headphones if I am watching the
movie at home. I hope that they fix that. After all, if they hope to add
more movies, it stands to reason the movies they do have will be available
through streaming services which might not choose to carry the description
for that particular title.

Michael

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 11:39 AM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

I copied the below from the AppleVis newsletter.  This is a new approach to
getting audio description in the theater using your iPhone.
They only have Cars 3 right now, but are planning to have more movies soon.
The more people that download the app and go through the tutorial, the more
insentive both the developer and Hollywood have in making movies with audio
description available this way.  Note, when you start the app for the first
time, you will need wired headphones plugged in because when you get to the
download portion, it won't work without headphones, to train us that we
won't be able to annoy the people around us in the movie theater by playing
the audio description over the iPhone speaker, grin.
They recommend downloading the movie content over WiFi at home so you won't
have to use cellular data at the theater.


Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

Actiview is your all-in-one app for accessibility content at the movies!

When you go to an Actiview enabled movie theater, connect to the Wi-Fi and
choose from the available services, including:

-Audio Description -Amplified Audio -Closed Captioning -Multi-language
Captioning -Sign Language Interpretation

All of this content will be synced to the movie and streamed right to your
device, no other setup required!

Current Version: 2.0.2 (June 16, 2017)

Read Actiview's AppleVis iOS App Directory entry for more
information
Visit Actiview's App Store
page



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Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

[Richard Turner]

I copied the below from the AppleVis newsletter.  This is a new approach to 
getting audio description in the theater using your iPhone.
They only have Cars 3 right now, but are planning to have more movies soon.  
The more people that download the app and go through the tutorial, the more 
insentive both the developer and Hollywood have in making movies with audio 
description available this way.  Note, when you start the app for the first 
time, you will need wired headphones plugged in because when you get to the 
download portion, it won't work without headphones, to train us that we won't 
be able to annoy the people around us in the movie theater by playing the audio 
description over the iPhone speaker, grin.
They recommend downloading the movie content over WiFi at home so you won't 
have to use cellular data at the theater.


Actiview - Empowered Entertainment (iOS, Free)

Actiview is your all-in-one app for accessibility content at the movies!

When you go to an Actiview enabled movie theater, connect to the Wi-Fi and 
choose from the available services, including:

-Audio Description -Amplified Audio -Closed Captioning -Multi-language 
Captioning -Sign Language Interpretation

All of this content will be synced to the movie and streamed right to your 
device, no other setup required!

Current Version: 2.0.2 (June 16, 2017)

Read Actiview's AppleVis iOS App Directory entry for more 
information
Visit Actiview's App Store 
page



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Re: accessable games for the iPhone

['鍾 智明' via VIPhone]

Wow! I hope he will have more exciting games coming soon!

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Donna  於 2017年7月1日 下午9:17 寫道：
> 
> Hi
> 
> Search the app store for "Blindfold" All of these games are fully accessible. 
> And applevis.com has a list of gaming apps that are accessible using 
> voiceover. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> The best resource is AppleVis. Here is the link for the games page.
>> https://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/games
>>  
>> From: Rebecca Sabo
>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: accessable games for the iPhone
>>  
>> Hi all , 
>> I was wondering if their were a list of accessable of games for the iPhone 
>> or the iPad ?  if so where would the list be founded or do you all have fun 
>> or favorite games that you all play ?
>> Becky 
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:43 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Thanks Sandy,
>>> I use that gesture a lot and have no idea how I missed the fact it was not 
>>> on the list.
>>> I think there are one or two more missing.
>>> Like I said, I was not sure it was complete, so I was right, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2017, at 2:57 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 Richard,
 Did you include the three finger quadruple tap, which puts in the 
 clipboard the last thing that voice-over spoke? this can be immensely 
 useful!
 Sandy
 
 sent from the dark side of the moon
 
> On 30 Jun 2017, at 08:08, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Richard! Very clear and useful. I'll pass it round my local 
> community.
> Regards
> Harry
> 
>> On 30 Jun 2017, at 03:56, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> VoiceOver Gestures
>> Navigate and read
>> ‧ Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
>> ‧ Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
>> ‧ Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  
>> Depends on the rotor setting.
>> ‧ Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going 
>> to turn a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right 
>> Select the next or previous rotor item.  Examples of items on the rotor 
>> are: speech rate, character, word, line, heading. You can add other 
>> items to the rotor in the VoiceOver settings.
>> ‧ Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
>> ‧ Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
>> ‧ Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
>> ‧ To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger 
>> scrub: Move two fingers back and forth three times quickly (making a “z”)
>> ‧ Scroll one page at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
>> ‧ Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or 
>> previous page (on the Home screen.
>> ‧ Speak additional information, such as position within a list or 
>> whether text is selected: Three-finger tap.
>> ‧ Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
>> ‧ Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
>> Activate
>> ‧ Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
>> ‧ Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with 
>> one finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first 
>> finger on the screen.
>> ‧ When a non-VoiceOver uses needs to Double-tap an item: VO uses need to 
>> Triple-tap with one finger.
>> ‧ Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard 
>> gesture. The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the 
>> next gesture as standard. For example, you can double-tap and hold your 
>> finger on the screen until you hear three rising tones, and then without 
>> lifting your finger, drag your finger on a slider.
>> ‧ Tap 2 times on the clock in status bar to scroll to top in any app.
>> ‧To start or stop an action: Two-finger double-tap.  This gesture 
>> initiates an action or halts or pauses an action in progress. For 
>> example, you can:
>> ‧Answer or end a call.
>> ‧Play or pause in Music, Videos, Voice Memos, or Photos (slideshows).
>> ‧Take a photo in Camera.
>> ‧Start or pause recording in Camera or Voice Memos.
>> ‧Start or stop the stopwatch.
>> ‧ Change an item’s label to make it easier to find: Two-finger 
>> double-tap and hold.
>> ‧ Open the Item Chooser: Two-finger triple-tap.
>> ‧ Select/deselect text: Two-finger Pinch out/in.
>> ‧ Mute or unmute VoiceOver: Three-finger double-tap. If both VoiceOver 
>> and Zoom are enabled, use the three-finger triple-tap gesture.
>> ‧ Turn the screen curtain on or off: Three-finger 

Re: accessable games for the iPhone

[Donna]

Hi

Search the app store for "Blindfold" All of these games are fully accessible. 
And applevis.com has a list of gaming apps that are accessible using voiceover. 

Donna
> 
> The best resource is AppleVis. Here is the link for the games page.
> https://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/games
>  
> From: Rebecca Sabo
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: accessable games for the iPhone
>  
> Hi all , 
> I was wondering if their were a list of accessable of games for the iPhone or 
> the iPad ?  if so where would the list be founded or do you all have fun or 
> favorite games that you all play ?
> Becky 
>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:43 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Thanks Sandy,
>> I use that gesture a lot and have no idea how I missed the fact it was not 
>> on the list.
>> I think there are one or two more missing.
>> Like I said, I was not sure it was complete, so I was right, grin.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 2:57 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard,
>>> Did you include the three finger quadruple tap, which puts in the clipboard 
>>> the last thing that voice-over spoke? this can be immensely useful!
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 30 Jun 2017, at 08:08, Harry Bell  wrote:
 
 Thanks, Richard! Very clear and useful. I'll pass it round my local 
 community.
 Regards
 Harry
 
> On 30 Jun 2017, at 03:56, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> VoiceOver Gestures
> Navigate and read
> • Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
> • Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
> • Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  Depends 
> on the rotor setting.
> • Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going to 
> turn a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right Select 
> the next or previous rotor item.  Examples of items on the rotor are: 
> speech rate, character, word, line, heading. You can add other items to 
> the rotor in the VoiceOver settings.
> • Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
> • Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
> • Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
> • To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger 
> scrub: Move two fingers back and forth three times quickly (making a “z”)
> • Scroll one page at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
> • Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or 
> previous page (on the Home screen.
> • Speak additional information, such as position within a list or whether 
> text  is selected: Three-finger tap.
> • Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
> • Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
> Activate
> • Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
> • Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with one 
> finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first finger 
> on the screen.
> • When a non-VoiceOver uses needs to Double-tap an item: VO uses need to 
> Triple-tap with one finger.
> • Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard 
> gesture. The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the 
> next gesture as standard. For example, you can double-tap and hold your 
> finger on the screen until you hear three rising tones, and then without 
> lifting your finger, drag your finger on a slider.
> • Tap 2 times on the clock in status bar to scroll to top in any app.
> •To start or stop an action: Two-finger double-tap.  This gesture 
> initiates an action or halts or pauses an action in progress. For 
> example, you can:
> •Answer or end a call.
> •Play or pause in Music, Videos, Voice Memos, or Photos (slideshows).
> •Take a photo in Camera.
> •Start or pause recording in Camera or Voice Memos.
> •Start or stop the stopwatch.
> • Change an item’s label to make it easier to find: Two-finger double-tap 
> and hold.
> • Open the Item Chooser: Two-finger triple-tap.
> • Select/deselect text: Two-finger Pinch out/in.
> • Mute or unmute VoiceOver: Three-finger double-tap. If both VoiceOver 
> and Zoom are enabled, use the three-finger triple-tap gesture.
> • Turn the screen curtain on or off: Three-finger triple-tap. If both 
> VoiceOver and Zoom are enabled, use the three-finger quadruple-tap 
> gesture.
> • Open or close multitask pane: Four-finger, swipe up or down.
> • Switch to next or previous app: Four-finger swipe left or right.
> • 

RE: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

[Richard Turner]

Sandra, keep the expanding memory working, but this one is rather inconsistent, 
or at least I’m rather inconsistent with it.
On my 5S, I got it to work a couple times.
On a system I can’t discuss, I have not been able to get it to work.
I’m going to hold off on this one until I am sure I can make it work and 
describe it fairly briefly.
I noticed that the four finger swipe left and right seems to work on the iPhone 
6 and later.  It does not work on my 5S.
I will move that out of the iPad section with that caveat.

Thanks for helping get this list as complete as possible.

Richard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

hi Richard,
because you're wonderful list is "ever expanding", so is my investigative 
memory! I think you haven't mentioned this one: and I am not sure if I have it 
exactly right, but I do use it very often: with the rotor said two words, flick 
down once to the end of a targeted word, then double tap and hold, you get a 
list of edit functions, sometimes immediately to the left of the cursor and 
sometimes at the very bottom right of the screen, this seems to vary, one of 
which being "look up". double tap that and the dictionary opens. you will get a 
list of dictionary definitions, including other languages, if you have those 
enabled. not sure how you would describe this in a quick and Zappy form… but it 
is a key and, I suspect, underused function of iOS.

thanks for compiling this list, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 30 Jun 2017, at 20:09, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
VoiceOver Gestures
Navigate and read
• Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
• Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
• Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  Depends on 
the rotor setting. * Also used to access various options on apps, Email 
messages, etc.  Anywhere VoiceOver says "Actions available."
• Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going to turn 
a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right Select the next or 
previous rotor item.  Examples of items on the rotor are: speech rate, 
character, word, line, heading. You can add other items to the rotor in the 
VoiceOver settings.
• Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
• Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
• Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
• To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger scrub: Move 
two fingers rapidly in a small circle or slide two fingers back and forth three 
times quickly (making a “z”)
• Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one finger and swipe down with two 
fingers; only works if Speak Screen is turned on in settings, general, 
accessibility, speech.  VO will continue reading even if the screen is locked.
• Scroll one page up or down at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
• Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or previous 
page (on the Home screen.
• Open Notification Center: touch the status bar and swipe down with three 
fingers.
• Open Control Panel: Touch status bar and swipe up with three fingers.
• Open Spotlight Search: Touch on the home screen below the status bar and 
above the dock and swipe down with three fingers.
• Speak additional information, such as position within a list or whether text 
is selected: Three-finger tap.
• Copy last thing spoken by VoiceOver to the clipboard: three-finger quadruple 
tap.
• Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
• Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
Activate
• Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
• Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with one 
finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first finger on the 
screen.
• When a non-VoiceOver user needs to Double-tap an item: VO users need to 
Triple-tap with one finger.
• Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard gesture. 
The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the next gesture as 
standard. For example, you can double-tap and hold your finger on the screen 
until you hear three rising tones, and then without lifting your finger, drag 
your finger on a slider.  (Also known as the Pass Through Gesture.)
• Tap 2 times on the clock in status bar to scroll to top in any app.
•To start or stop an action: Two-finger double-tap.  This gesture initiates an 
action or halts or pauses an action in progress. For example, you can:
•Answer or end a call.
•Play or pause in Music, Videos, Voice Memos, or Photos (slideshows).
•Take a photo in Camera.
•Start or pause recording in Camera or Voice Memos.
•Start or stop the stopwatch.
• 

I want an app, but forgot what the name of this app was...

[Lev]

Hi,

As subject says I'm looking for this app on appstore but totally forgot 
the name,


I know with this app you can do some funny stuff like rewind and audio 
or forwarding, cut or just play a selected segment of the audio, and 
save the new track,


I guess it's a little bit like audio edition, it has been discuss on 
this list and on the description of the app on appstore said it was 
voice over friendly.


I think this app is developed by a japanese developer, I'm not sure though.

Another remark, also on the description said very good for people who is 
learning another languages.



does anybody have an idea?


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Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures, with headings and an iPad only section.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
You say "for iPad only" four finger slide left or right, to go to previous or 
next open app. this works on my iPhone 6 too!
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 30 Jun 2017, at 20:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> VoiceOver Gestures
> 
> Navigate and read
> • Practice Mode: Four finger double tap.  Puts VoiceOver in practice mode so 
> you can practice gestures without opening or changing anything.
> • Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
> • Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
> • Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  Depends on 
> the rotor setting. * Also used to access various options on apps, Email 
> messages, etc.  Anywhere VoiceOver says "Actions available."
> • Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going to 
> turn a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right Select the 
> next or previous rotor item.  Examples of items on the rotor are: speech 
> rate, character, word, line, heading. You can add other items to the rotor in 
> the VoiceOver settings.
> • Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
> • Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
> • Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
> • To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger scrub: 
> Move two fingers rapidly in a small circle or slide two fingers back and 
> forth three times quickly (making a “z”)
> • Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one finger and swipe down with two 
> fingers; only works if Speak Screen is turned on in settings, general, 
> accessibility, speech.   VO will continue reading even if the screen is 
> locked.
> • Scroll one page up or down at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
> • Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or previous 
> page (on the Home screen.
> • Open Notification Center: touch the status bar and swipe down with three 
> fingers.
> • Open Control Panel: Touch status bar and swipe up with three fingers.
> • Open Spotlight Search: Touch on the home screen below the status bar and 
> above the dock and swipe down with three fingers.
> • Speak additional information, such as position within a list or whether 
> text is selected: Three-finger tap.
> • Copy last thing spoken by VoiceOver to the clipboard: three-finger 
> quadruple tap.
> • Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
> • Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
> Activate
> • Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
> • Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with one 
> finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first finger on 
> the screen.
> • When a non-VoiceOver user needs to Double-tap an item: VO users need to 
> Triple-tap with one finger.
> • Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard gesture. 
> The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the next gesture as 
> standard. For example, you can double-tap and hold your finger on the screen 
> until you hear three rising tones, and then without lifting your finger, drag 
> your finger on a slider.  (Also known as the Pass Through Gesture.)
> • Tap 2 times on the clock in status bar to scroll to top in any app.
> •To start or stop an action: Two-finger double-tap.  This gesture initiates 
> an action or halts or pauses an action in progress. For example, you can:
> •Answer or end a call.
> •Play or pause in Music, Videos, Voice Memos, or Photos (slideshows).
> •Take a photo in Camera.
> •Start or pause recording in Camera or Voice Memos.
> •Start or stop the stopwatch.
> • Change an item’s label to make it easier to find: Two-finger double-tap and 
> hold.
> • Open the Item Chooser: Two-finger triple-tap.
> • Select/deselect text: Turn on "Text Selection" in the VoiceOver rotor 
> settings, then turn the rotor to Text Selection and flick down to character, 
> word, line, etc., and then flick right with one finger to select text.  Once 
> selected, turn rotor to edit and flick up or down to copy, print, share, etc. 
>  Much easier than the Two-finger Pinch out/in.
> • Mute or unmute VoiceOver: Three-finger double-tap. If both VoiceOver and 
> Zoom are enabled, use the three-finger triple-tap gesture.
> • Turn the screen curtain on or off: Three-finger triple-tap. If both 
> VoiceOver and Zoom are enabled, use the three-finger quadruple-tap gesture.
> • 3D Touch: Place your finger on an app and press, do not tap, this brings up 
> a shortcut menu depending on the app.  For example, on the phone app it 
> brings up your favorites so you can call them quickly.  3D Touch is available 
> on devices like the iPhone 6s, 6s Plus, 7s, 7s Plus.
> For iPad only
> 
> • Switch to next or previous app: Four-finger swipe left or right.
> • Go to home screen: 5 fingers pinch in: put all five 

Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi Richard,
because you're wonderful list is "ever expanding", so is my investigative 
memory! I think you haven't mentioned this one: and I am not sure if I have it 
exactly right, but I do use it very often: with the rotor said two words, flick 
down once to the end of a targeted word, then double tap and hold, you get a 
list of edit functions, sometimes immediately to the left of the cursor and 
sometimes at the very bottom right of the screen, this seems to vary, one of 
which being "look up". double tap that and the dictionary opens. you will get a 
list of dictionary definitions, including other languages, if you have those 
enabled. not sure how you would describe this in a quick and Zappy form… but it 
is a key and, I suspect, underused function of iOS.

thanks for compiling this list, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 30 Jun 2017, at 20:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> VoiceOver Gestures
> Navigate and read
> • Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
> • Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left with one finger.
> • Select an item on the rotor: Swipe up or down with one finger.  Depends on 
> the rotor setting. * Also used to access various options on apps, Email 
> messages, etc.  Anywhere VoiceOver says "Actions available."
> • Using the Rotor: Place two fingers on the screen like you were going to 
> turn a knob, hold them against the screen and twist left or right Select the 
> next or previous rotor item.  Examples of items on the rotor are: speech 
> rate, character, word, line, heading. You can add other items to the rotor in 
> the VoiceOver settings.
> • Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe up.
> • Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe down.
> • Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
> • To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: Two-finger scrub: 
> Move two fingers rapidly in a small circle or slide two fingers back and 
> forth three times quickly (making a “z”)
> • Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one finger and swipe down with two 
> fingers; only works if Speak Screen is turned on in settings, general, 
> accessibility, speech.   VO will continue reading even if the screen is 
> locked.
> • Scroll one page up or down at a time: Three-finger swipe up or down.
> • Three-finger swipe right or left.  For example): Go to the next or previous 
> page (on the Home screen.
> • Open Notification Center: touch the status bar and swipe down with three 
> fingers.
> • Open Control Panel: Touch status bar and swipe up with three fingers.
> • Open Spotlight Search: Touch on the home screen below the status bar and 
> above the dock and swipe down with three fingers.
> • Speak additional information, such as position within a list or whether 
> text is selected: Three-finger tap.
> • Copy last thing spoken by VoiceOver to the clipboard: three-finger 
> quadruple tap.
> • Select the first item on the page: Four-finger tap at top of screen.
> • Select the last item on the page: Four-finger tap at bottom of screen.
> Activate
> • Activate the selected item: Double-tap with one finger.
> • Alternative way to activate an item: Split-tap.  Touch an item with one 
> finger, then tap the screen with another, while keeping the first finger on 
> the screen.
> • When a non-VoiceOver user needs to Double-tap an item: VO users need to 
> Triple-tap with one finger.
> • Use a standard gesture: Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard gesture. 
> The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the next gesture as 
> standard. For example, you can double-tap and hold your finger on the screen 
> until you hear three rising tones, and then without lifting your finger, drag 
> your finger on a slider.  (Also known as the Pass Through Gesture.)
> • Tap 2 times on the clock in status bar to scroll to top in any app.
> •To start or stop an action: Two-finger double-tap.  This gesture initiates 
> an action or halts or pauses an action in progress. For example, you can:
> •Answer or end a call.
> •Play or pause in Music, Videos, Voice Memos, or Photos (slideshows).
> •Take a photo in Camera.
> •Start or pause recording in Camera or Voice Memos.
> •Start or stop the stopwatch.
> • Change an item’s label to make it easier to find: Two-finger double-tap and 
> hold.
> • Open the Item Chooser: Two-finger triple-tap.
> • Select/deselect text: Turn on "Text Selection" in the VoiceOver rotor 
> settings, then turn the rotor to Text Selection and flick down to character, 
> word, line, etc., and then flick right with one finger to select text.  Once 
> selected, turn rotor to edit and flick up or down to copy, print, share, etc. 
>  Much easier than the Two-finger Pinch out/in.
> • Mute or unmute VoiceOver: Three-finger double-tap. If both VoiceOver and 
> Zoom are enabled, use the three-finger triple-tap gesture.
> • Turn the screen curtain on or off: Three-finger 

Re: Question About Facetime Audio and Battery Status

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
My apologies you’re correct I meant 10.3.2 no matter how many years one has 
been typing your finger can land wrongly. Yes I was in fact referring to the 
most recent stable public version as I never put a beta on my main device.
My apologies for the lack of preciseness in describing.
Robin

From: Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Question About Facetime Audio and Battery Status

Hello Roben. The version of ios 10.3.3 is beta version. This version is in 
development process. The latest version is 10.3.2.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-1 ביולי 2017, בשעה 0:23, ‏‏Robin Frost ‏ כתב/ה:‬


  Hi,
  Last night I had occasion to visit with a friend via facetime audio on my 
iPhone 7Plus running iOS 10.3.3 I believe is the most recent version number. 
And while doing this I observed some behavior with VoiceOver I’ve never 
witnessed before. Suddenly while on this Facetime call whether I was in the 
Facetime screen or anywhere else it mattered not I couldn’t get VoiceOver to 
read my battery status at all.  It could read other icons on the status like 
such as cellular signal strength, wi-fi strength, the time but when I got 
further towards that top right-hand corner it just said nothing at all and made 
the clicking noise you sometimes hear when swiping through elements on screen.  
Has anyone else ever seen anything like this and what on earth is the cause?
  the person with whom I was chatting was on an iPhone 6 and had no issues 
seeing his battery status. It is quite the curiosity.  Thanks for any light you 
could shed on this for me.
  Robin

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Beta users, please help me with this report

[afik Suffir]

Hello, attached is my report to apple. You may  add your own bugs and send 
them. We have to report it many times so they’ll fix it.

Dont forget to attach the accessibility settings and the diagnostic.

Here is the report. 

In the past, when holding the command, plus VO key plus the arrows, you could 
change voice over parameters easily. Now, you have to add the shift key. Like, 
command, plus VO key, plus shift, plus the arrows to change the parameters. Can 
you change it back to normal behavior? 

In addition, when exploring around the doc with voice over, its says “safari 
not found, mail not found, and so on.” But, its there. So, why its say not 
found? When I press the “not found,” its open up the app. 

Steps, just explore the doc. 

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