RE: Brailliant BI 14

[denise.avant]

How many devices can be connected to the Brailliant BI 14?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Brailliant BI 14

Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
Regards,
Cris
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14

Hello Mary,

I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery issues. 
As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the units. The 
devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do think there 
is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going 
> to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. 
> I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess 
> this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary 
>> 
>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
>> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
>> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
>> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
>> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
>> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
>> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
>> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
>> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
>> large equipment around with you. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>>> it has any, and how much?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
 phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
 storage capacity.
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
 Subject: Brailliant BI 14
 
 
 I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
 finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
 is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
 available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
 capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
 things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
 etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
 slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
 could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
 only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
 Mary
 
 
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Apple Id problems

[denise.avant]

Hello all,

I recently changed my Apple id using my phone, and with the assistance of a
support person from Apple. However, I have noticed two things. First, when I
open itunes on my computer, and try to sign in, it is not recognizing the
new id, and is loading things under my old apple id. Second, sometimes when
I am opening an app on my phone, I get a popup message with my old apple id
and a message saying to sign in, go into settings. No content has been
changed on the phone. I should mention that when I go into settings, I am
able to see the new apple id under my name.

If anyone can provide some clarity, I would appreciate it.

 

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Having trouble with iCloud

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, I just signed into iCloud using mail for Windows 10, but for some reason my 
message to the subscribing email to this list isn’t sending. I did create a 
specific password for this app. Is there something I need to enable in my 
settings?

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RE: App for reading txt and pdf files

[Alan Lemly]

Alexandra,

 

I've played around some more with Dolphin Easy Reader since my last post and 
I'm not sure It works with content in Dropbox. At least I couldn't figure out 
yesterday how to load Dropbox content into it. I'll add to Richard's comment 
that Voice Dream Reader is the best of these reading apps in terms of features 
and versatility at accessing the type of content I use.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

 

I did not quite understand what you were asking. My favorite app for reading 
files that I download from DropBox is Voice Dream Reader. 

You can set VoiceDream Reader to stop after every sentence, or pause it and 
navigate back or forward by sentence.

Plus you have the option to use higher quality voices, though some of the new 
VoiceOver voices are quite good.

You can also then read books from BookShare, Word, Etc.

Richard

 

 

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On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Alexandra  wrote:

Sounds good, I will try that. Thanks!
Am Freitag, 13. April 2018 um 23:07 schrieb Alan Lemly:



You might try the Dolphin Easy Reader. I've started playing around

with it a bit but don't have much experience at this point. I still

really like Voice Dream Reader and don't like learning a lot of apps the do the 
same thing.





 





Alan Lemly





 





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:11 PM

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Subject: Re: App for reading txt and pdf files





 





Hi,





 





YOu can also read PDFs in iBooks.





 





Best,





Anna





 





 





 









On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Richard Turner

 wrote:





 





What's wrong with using the Dropbox app and VoiceOver? 





Or, the app you used to create the text files.





I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to do.





Richard





 





 





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On Apr 13, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Alexandra  wrote:





  Hi,





which app do you use for reading your own texts? I'm looking for an

app that allows me to read my own txt and pdf files stored in

dropbox conviniently. Voice dream reader wouldn't be my first

choice, as I find it rather overloaded with features and don't like

the way menues are presented. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.





Alexandra






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RE: New Apple watch features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Watch OS 5 is 5 months away so anything at this point is pure speculation. I 
guess we may find out if Apple demonstrates it during the WWDC event at the 
beginning of June, that  is only 7 or 8 weeks away.


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Hi, I thought I heard somewhere that in WatchOS 5 there will be a new feature 
that allows third party watch faces. Has anyone else heard of this feature?

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New Apple watch features

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, I thought I heard somewhere that in WatchOS 5 there will be a new feature 
that allows third party watch faces. Has anyone else heard of this feature? 

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RE: Apple Music and Apple ID

[Maria Reyes]

Ok I mean if I signed into an iCloud email address for icloud and mail but in 
the music app I’m signed into my gmail address. I’m not sure how to make this 
very clear. 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Apple ID

Why would you loose anything if you simply use a different email address for 
your Apple Id?
I switched quite a few years ago when the @outlook.com addresses became 
available. I used to have siegh...@hotmail.ca as my main email address but 
liked the sound of siegh...@outlook.com better. Fortunately my first name is 
rare enough and I set it up fairly early on so that I got that address and it 
was extremely simple to make that new email address my Apple Id while keeping 
all my purchases.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:56 PM
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Subject: Apple Music and Apple ID

Hi, If I were to switch to an iCloud email for my Apple ID, could I use an 
existing apple ID that is subscribed to Apple Music. I know I will lose my app 
purchases and all that stuff. 
Thanks for your help. 

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RE: Apple Music and Apple ID

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why would you loose anything if you simply use a different email address for 
your Apple Id?
I switched quite a few years ago when the @outlook.com addresses became 
available. I used to have siegh...@hotmail.ca as my 
main email address but liked the sound of 
siegh...@outlook.com better. Fortunately my first 
name is rare enough and I set it up fairly early on so that I got that address 
and it was extremely simple to make that new email address my Apple Id while 
keeping all my purchases.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:56 PM
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Subject: Apple Music and Apple ID

Hi, If I were to switch to an iCloud email for my Apple ID, could I use an 
existing apple ID that is subscribed to Apple Music. I know I will lose my app 
purchases and all that stuff.
Thanks for your help.

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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Given the sluggishness of the series 2 I can only imagine what a series 1 would 
be like. It is interesting how Apple succeeds in getting people to buy what are 
expensive watches every few years. It used to be that one would buy a quality 
watch and have it for many years, even decades or a lifetime. Now Apple has 
taken the watch and made it into just another technology gadget which needs to 
be updated every 3 or 4 years. When I bought mine I bought the stainless steel 
version because I liked the fact that it had a sapphire crystal screen and 
sounded just a bit tougher. I do sometimes wear it in my woodworking shop or 
when I’m out  and about doing stuff and when I had a braille watch I broke the 
lid/crystal on a pretty regular bases. I think next time if I do eventually 
upgrade I’ll buy whatever is the cheapest model given the fact that one can’t 
expect to get 6 or 8 let alone 10 years out of it.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 2:02 PM
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Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

My series 1 is just so slow.

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:49 PM
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Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

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> On Behalf Of Sarai 
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Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

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RE: NOAA weather radio app

[Gary Ketler]

I was unable to do anything with it. I hope others have had different results.

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what if any experience have any of you had with this app from the VO 
accessibility perspective?
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Apple Music and Apple ID

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, If I were to switch to an iCloud email for my Apple ID, could I use an 
existing apple ID that is subscribed to Apple Music. I know I will lose my app 
purchases and all that stuff. 
Thanks for your help. 

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Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

I assume we're talking about rules that automatically move messages into 
specific folders or take other actions on messages, such as deleting them.



On 04/15/2018 06:29 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:


Hi, What are iCloud rules? I’m not sure how much I can help because I 
use a Gmail address, but I can trty.


Sent from Mail  for 
Windows 10


*From: *danielmcgee...@icloud.com 
*Sent: *Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:19 PM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject: *Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

Hi jenn, thanks for letting me know the message came through.

Yes you can access the icloud mail rules via iOS by the website but 
first, you have to tell the browser to request the desktop site.


I can get this far but it is after I login, tap the mail button, tap a 
button that for the moment, the name escapes me. Its just above the 
back button on the iPhone though.


The next screen is where it says: preferences, rules etc. This is the 
screen where VoiceOver can read all the buttons but when double 
tapping on one of them, it doesn't work. Even though by turning off 
VO. I was able to by accident, get to the rules screen.




On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:37 PM +0100, "Jennie Facer" 
> wrote:


I wanted you to know your message came through, but I am not sure
about it. I thought you could only access rules through the iCloud
website.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:20 PM, danielmcgee...@icloud.com
 wrote:

Hi all, did anyone get my message?

Thanks

Daniel



On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:20 PM +0100, "Daniel McGee"
>
wrote:

Hi all

  


Trying to find a consistent way in which I can access my created 
mail rules at

  


  icloud.com 

  


but on iOS with VoiceOver.

  


I know it is possible because I have  accidentally gotten to the 
page with a combination with voiceover  on and off.

  


I can get up to a certain point after login in to my icloud 
account. However, once I've reached a certain stage in the steps in trying to 
access the rules, it becomes very difficult and this is the part where I had to 
turn off VoiceOver. It is also the part where I accessed the mail rules by 
accident.

  

  


If there are any sighted folks on list and who know what part of 
the process I am talking about. If you could take a look at your icloud mail 
rules: if you have any and try to figure out a workaround from the VoiceOver 
point of view and share here what you did, that would be really appreciated.

Similarly,  For those who don't know what I'm talking about, just 
let me know and I'll provide step by step instructions with how far I got with 
the process.

  


Thanks

  


Daniel

  

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RE: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, What are iCloud rules? I’m not sure how much I can help because I use a 
Gmail address, but I can trty. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: danielmcgee...@icloud.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

Hi jenn, thanks for letting me know the message came through. 

Yes you can access the icloud mail rules via iOS by the website but first, you 
have to tell the browser to request the desktop site. 

I can get this far but it is after I login, tap the mail button, tap a button 
that for the moment, the name escapes me. Its just above the back button on the 
iPhone though. 

The next screen is where it says: preferences, rules etc. This is the screen 
where VoiceOver can read all the buttons but when double tapping on one of 
them, it doesn't work. Even though by turning off VO. I was able to by 
accident, get to the rules screen. 



On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:37 PM +0100, "Jennie Facer"  
wrote:
I wanted you to know your message came through, but I am not sure about it. I 
thought you could only access rules through the iCloud website.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:20 PM, danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
Hi all, did anyone get my message? 

Thanks 

Daniel 



On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:20 PM +0100, "Daniel McGee" 
 wrote:
Hi all 

Trying to find a consistent way in which I can access my created mail rules at

 icloud.com

but on iOS with VoiceOver. 

I know it is possible because I have  accidentally gotten to the page with a 
combination with voiceover  on and off.

I can get up to a certain point after login in to my icloud account. However, 
once I've reached a certain stage in the steps in trying to access the rules, 
it becomes very difficult and this is the part where I had to turn off 
VoiceOver. It is also the part where I accessed the mail rules by accident.


If there are any sighted folks on list and who know what part of the process I 
am talking about. If you could take a look at your icloud mail rules: if you 
have any and try to figure out a workaround from the VoiceOver point of view 
and share here what you did, that would be really appreciated. 
Similarly,  For those who don't know what I'm talking about, just let me know 
and I'll provide step by step instructions with how far I got with the process. 

Thanks 

Daniel 

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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[joedinero68]

I have a series 1 but for my purposes it suits me fine. I might think about a 
Series 3 after the fall announcement. They have had some great Black Friday 
deals on the previous years models every year. If you can hold out I would 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
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Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

It is 8 cells.


> On Apr 15, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
> Regards,
> Cris
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery 
> issues. As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the 
> units. The devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do 
> think there is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
>> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not 
>> going to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American 
>> novel. I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. 
>> I guess this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary 
>>> 
>>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch 
>>> with 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own 
>>> internal notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and 
>>> wherever you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes 
>>> to your I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then 
>>> it just becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t 
>>> attach anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide 
>>> external storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it 
>>> is to be able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry 
>>> a lot of large equipment around with you. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
 some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete 
 notes that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage 
 capacity if it has any, and how much?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
> storage capacity.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> 
> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to 
> fame is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app 
> that’s available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the 
> notetaking capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you 
> access the things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, 
> deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. 
> But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting 
> if it really could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not 
> thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
> Mary
> 
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RE: Brailliant BI 14

[Cris Ali]

Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
Regards,
Cris
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14

Hello Mary,

I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery issues. 
As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the units. The 
devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do think there 
is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going 
> to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. 
> I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess 
> this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary 
>> 
>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
>> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
>> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
>> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
>> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
>> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
>> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
>> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
>> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
>> large equipment around with you. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>>> it has any, and how much?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
 phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
 storage capacity.
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
 Subject: Brailliant BI 14
 
 
 I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
 finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
 is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
 available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
 capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
 things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
 etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
 slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
 could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
 only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

[danielmcgee134]

Hi jenn, thanks for letting me know the message came through. 
Yes you can access the icloud mail rules via iOS by the website but first, you 
have to tell the browser to request the desktop site. 
I can get this far but it is after I login, tap the mail button, tap a button 
that for the moment, the name escapes me. Its just above the back button on the 
iPhone though. 
The next screen is where it says: preferences, rules etc. This is the screen 
where VoiceOver can read all the buttons but when double tapping on one of 
them, it doesn't work. Even though by turning off VO. I was able to by 
accident, get to the rules screen. 









On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:37 PM +0100, "Jennie Facer"  
wrote:










I wanted you to know your message came through, but I am not sure about it. I 
thought you could only access rules through the iCloud website.
Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:20 PM, danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:








Hi all, did anyone get my message? 
Thanks 
Daniel 









On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:20 PM +0100, "Daniel McGee" 
 wrote:










Hi all 

Trying to find a consistent way in which I can access my created mail rules at

 icloud.com

but on iOS with VoiceOver. 

I know it is possible because I have  accidentally gotten to the page with a 
combination with voiceover  on and off.

I can get up to a certain point after login in to my icloud account. However, 
once I've reached a certain stage in the steps in trying to access the rules, 
it becomes very difficult and this is the part where I had to turn off 
VoiceOver. It is also the part where I accessed the mail rules by accident.


If there are any sighted folks on list and who know what part of the process I 
am talking about. If you could take a look at your icloud mail rules: if you 
have any and try to figure out a workaround from the VoiceOver point of view 
and share here what you did, that would be really appreciated. 
Similarly,  For those who don't know what I'm talking about, just let me know 
and I'll provide step by step instructions with how far I got with the process. 

Thanks 

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Re: 5-key shift keyboard

[Michael Maslo]

  
  

  
Hi sieghard:   
  

  
I fully understand what you are saying and the examiner example you are giving. 
In your line of work it really does come in handy. My job is and only could be 
done on my work laptop due to extremely sensitive information I handle.   
  

  
I do not use a laptop at all now a day. If I flick type is integrated as a full 
keyboard as they say, I could type as fast or at least as close as I do on a 
regular keyboard. I see the benefits of a Bluetooth keyboard but for my daily 
needs I am fine without one. Now I will say I do have a iPad and I am seriously 
considering to get a Bluetooth keyboard since the area is so large and I have a 
lot of trouble typing on it.   
  

  
You have brought up good points and as I start to use my iPad more, I will 
probably break down and get one. I could then write my employee appraisals on 
it and then forward it to my work email.   
  

  
I thank you for your insights.   
  

  
Sincerely,   
  

  
Michael   
  
  

  
  

  
  
>   
> On Apr 15, 2018 at 15:53,  <'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  I have one of those Rii mini keyboards about the size of previous phone, and 
> practically never use it.  
>
> Would be interested in that 5 shifted thinghy you mentioned, I know there's 
> been some whacky but rather clever input devices  
> invented on occasions.  
>
> thanks, BobH.  
> - Original Message -  
> From: "Michael Maslo"     
> To: "Viphone"     
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:57 PM  
> Subject: Re: 5-key shift keyboard  
>
>
>
>
>
>  Hello, a few reasons why I never wanted a Bluetooth keyboard. First 
> extremely inconvenient. I hate carrying anything with me when  
> when I leave my house. I know it is lazy but it is who I am. Secondly, as 
> soon as I start carrying a Bluetooth keyboard I feel as  
> though I am carrying a laptop with me. I feel that carrying a phone is 
> portable and means I should not need any other peripherals to  
> use it. Again just my warped way of thinking.  
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> >  On Apr 15, 2018 at 11:30,  mailto:siegh...@live.ca)>  
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> >   
> >   
> >  Just curious, why do you never want to get a bluetooth keyboard? I 
> > personally have a Logitech K780 which is my main keyboard for  
> >  use with my Windows laptop, but it does support up to 3 devices and I have 
> > my iPhone paired with it as well. I rarely use it, but  
> >  occasionally if I do want to type a longer email or message in Facebook 
> > Messenger or WhatsApp I just press FN+F2, within 2 seconds  
> >  it connects and I can start pounding away. I don’t use it enough to know 
> > all the keystrokes for navigating and so on and pretty  
> >  much strictly use it to type text once I am already where I need to be, 
> > but fo rthat it still beats anything else including  
> >  dictation or FlickType or whatever.  
> >   
> >   
> >   
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> >  From: viphone@googlegroups.com    On Behalf Of 
> > Michael Maslo  
> >  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:27 AM  
> >  To: Viphone     
> >  Subject: 5-key shift keyboard  
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> >  I was wondering if anyone had tried the five key shift keyboard? I saw it 
> > on blind bargains. I tried it and I could not understand  
> >  any aspect on how to use it. Just credit button curious. I like flick type 
> > best amongst keyboard. I do not own a Bluetooth  
> >  keyboard and personally never will.  
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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

My series 1 is just so slow.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:40 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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Re: 5-key shift keyboard

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I have one of those Rii mini keyboards about the size of previous phone, and 
practically never use it.

Would be interested in that 5 shifted thinghy you mentioned, I know there's 
been some whacky but rather clever input devices 
invented on occasions.

thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Maslo" 
To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: 5-key shift keyboard





 Hello, a few reasons why I never wanted a Bluetooth keyboard. First extremely 
inconvenient. I hate carrying anything with me when 
when I leave my house. I know it is lazy but it is who I am. Secondly, as soon 
as I start carrying a Bluetooth keyboard I feel as 
though I am carrying a laptop with me. I feel that carrying a phone is portable 
and means I should not need any other peripherals to 
use it. Again just my warped way of thinking.







>
> On Apr 15, 2018 at 11:30,  mailto:siegh...@live.ca)>  
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Just curious, why do you never want to get a bluetooth keyboard? I personally 
> have a Logitech K780 which is my main keyboard for 
> use with my Windows laptop, but it does support up to 3 devices and I have my 
> iPhone paired with it as well. I rarely use it, but 
> occasionally if I do want to type a longer email or message in Facebook 
> Messenger or WhatsApp I just press FN+F2, within 2 seconds 
> it connects and I can start pounding away. I don’t use it enough to know all 
> the keystrokes for navigating and so on and pretty 
> much strictly use it to type text once I am already where I need to be, but 
> fo rthat it still beats anything else including 
> dictation or FlickType or whatever.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:  viphone@googlegroups.com     On Behalf Of  
> Michael Maslo
>   Sent:  Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:27 AM
>   To:  Viphone  
>   Subject:  5-key shift keyboard
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> Hi list.
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>
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone had tried the five key shift keyboard? I saw it on 
> blind bargains. I tried it and I could not understand 
> any aspect on how to use it. Just credit button curious. I like flick type 
> best amongst keyboard. I do not own a Bluetooth 
> keyboard and personally never will.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Any feedback is appreciated.
>
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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sarai 
Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:40 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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apple watch buy or wait?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1.
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

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www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 

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RE: 5-key shift keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Michael,

I mostly agree, maybe I should have been more clear in saying that I strictly 
use a bluetooth keyboard when I’m at home and where it’s sitting right next to 
me anyways most of the time. I also don’t like to try and use it while I’m out 
and about although occasionally if I go to a trade show and I’m only gone maybe 
for 2 days I will bring my bluetooth keyboard instead of my laptop. I have my 
iPhone with me anyways and the bluetooth keyboard is still a lot smaller and 
lighter than a laptop and this way I can easily reply to an email where the 
reply needs to be more than just a couple of sentences or at the trade show I 
can type some notes about a product etc. I think at times a bluetooth keyboard 
can be extremely useful and help in making the iPhone a substitute for my 
laptop which generally speaking I don’t consider it to be. I would never get 
the idea that all I need is an iPhone or, for that matter an iPad. Composing 
longer texts whether it’s a long email, or document or a spreadsheet is just 
not something an iPhone is good with and it is even less though for a blind 
user. Maybe some people take exception to this statement, but as accessible as 
it is, it just won’t be the same as for a sighted users. I see that again and 
again when some of my staff look up something on their iPhone, they are usually 
done by the time I am half way there and I’m a pretty confident user.
Another example is if I want to send an email to a customer which contains a 
few links to some of the products we sell on our website. WE sell a particular 
brand of german boots which are extremely popular with hikers who know their 
gear, hunters as well as with police officers. In order to make this easier I 
have the URL’s to these boot models on our website saved in a little Notepad 
file and if I compose an email I usually say something like this:

Please take a look at the following model which might interest you:
Meindl Glockner 
GTX

To write this, open my Notepad file, copy the link and then make the boot model 
text into a link on my Windows PC takes me probably 20 seconds. To accomplish 
this with an iPhone would be a royal pain in the behind, I could probably make 
keyboard shortcuts which insert the URL, but I think it looks more professional 
if the actual product name is a link and just the simple process of turning the 
rotor to text selection and to select the text is just so much more involved 
then to go to the start of said text with the cursor and to press Shift+End to 
select that entire line.

Best regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Maslo
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:57 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: 5-key shift keyboard

Hello, a few reasons why I never wanted a Bluetooth keyboard. First extremely 
inconvenient. I hate carrying anything with me when when I leave my house. I 
know it is lazy but it is who I am. Secondly, as soon as I start carrying a 
Bluetooth keyboard I feel as though I am carrying a laptop with me. I feel that 
carrying a phone is portable and means I should not need any other peripherals 
to use it. Again just my warped way of thinking.



On Apr 15, 2018 at 11:30, mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Just curious, why do you never want to get a bluetooth keyboard? I personally 
have a Logitech K780 which is my main keyboard for use with my Windows laptop, 
but it does support up to 3 devices and I have my iPhone paired with it as 
well. I rarely use it, but occasionally if I do want to type a longer email or 
message in Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp I just press FN+F2, within 2 seconds 
it connects and I can start pounding away. I don’t use it enough to know all 
the keystrokes for navigating and so on and pretty much strictly use it to type 
text once I am already where I need to be, but fo rthat it still beats anything 
else including dictation or FlickType or whatever.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of 
Michael Maslo
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:27 AM
To: Viphone >
Subject: 5-key shift keyboard

Hi list.

I was wondering if anyone had tried the five key shift keyboard? I saw it on 
blind bargains. I tried it and I could not understand any aspect on how to use 
it. Just credit button curious. I like flick type best amongst keyboard. I do 
not own a Bluetooth keyboard and personally never will.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Sincerely,

Michael
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Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

[Jennie Facer]

I wanted you to know your message came through, but I am not sure about it. I 
thought you could only access rules through the iCloud website.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:20 PM, danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all, did anyone get my message?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:20 PM +0100, "Daniel McGee" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Trying to find a consistent way in which I can access my created mail rules 
>> at
>> 
>>  icloud.com
>> 
>> but on iOS with VoiceOver. 
>> 
>> I know it is possible because I have  accidentally gotten to the page with a 
>> combination with voiceover  on and off.
>> 
>> I can get up to a certain point after login in to my icloud account. 
>> However, once I've reached a certain stage in the steps in trying to access 
>> the rules, it becomes very difficult and this is the part where I had to 
>> turn off VoiceOver. It is also the part where I accessed the mail rules by 
>> accident.
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>> view and share here what you did, that would be really appreciated. 
>> Similarly,  For those who don't know what I'm talking about, just let me 
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>> Thanks 
>> 
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Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

[danielmcgee134]

Hi all, did anyone get my message? 
Thanks 
Daniel 









On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:20 PM +0100, "Daniel McGee" 
 wrote:










Hi all 

Trying to find a consistent way in which I can access my created mail rules at

 icloud.com

but on iOS with VoiceOver. 

I know it is possible because I have  accidentally gotten to the page with a 
combination with voiceover  on and off.

I can get up to a certain point after login in to my icloud account. However, 
once I've reached a certain stage in the steps in trying to access the rules, 
it becomes very difficult and this is the part where I had to turn off 
VoiceOver. It is also the part where I accessed the mail rules by accident.


If there are any sighted folks on list and who know what part of the process I 
am talking about. If you could take a look at your icloud mail rules: if you 
have any and try to figure out a workaround from the VoiceOver point of view 
and share here what you did, that would be really appreciated. 
Similarly,  For those who don't know what I'm talking about, just let me know 
and I'll provide step by step instructions with how far I got with the process. 

Thanks 

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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Mary,

I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery issues. 
As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the units. The 
devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do think there 
is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.

Thanks,

Ed

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not going 
> to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American novel. 
> I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. I guess 
> this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary 
>> 
>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch with 
>> 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own internal 
>> notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and wherever 
>> you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes to your 
>> I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then it just 
>> becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t attach 
>> anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide external 
>> storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it is to be 
>> able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry a lot of 
>> large equipment around with you. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
>>> some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete notes 
>>> that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage capacity if 
>>> it has any, and how much?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
 phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
 storage capacity.
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
 Subject: Brailliant BI 14
 
 
 I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
 finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to fame 
 is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app that’s 
 available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the notetaking 
 capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you access the 
 things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, deleting them 
 etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. But for just 
 slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting if it really 
 could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not thrilled with 
 only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: 5-key shift keyboard

[Michael Maslo]

  
  

 Hello, a few reasons why I never wanted a Bluetooth keyboard. First extremely 
inconvenient. I hate carrying anything with me when when I leave my house. I 
know it is lazy but it is who I am. Secondly, as soon as I start carrying a 
Bluetooth keyboard I feel as though I am carrying a laptop with me. I feel that 
carrying a phone is portable and means I should not need any other peripherals 
to use it. Again just my warped way of thinking.   
  

  
  

  
  
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> Just curious, why do you never want to get a bluetooth keyboard? I personally 
> have a Logitech K780 which is my main keyboard for use with my Windows 
> laptop, but it does support up to 3 devices and I have my iPhone paired with 
> it as well. I rarely use it, but occasionally if I do want to type a longer 
> email or message in Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp I just press FN+F2, within 
> 2 seconds it connects and I can start pounding away. I don’t use it enough to 
> know all the keystrokes for navigating and so on and pretty much strictly use 
> it to type text once I am already where I need to be, but fo rthat it still 
> beats anything else including dictation or FlickType or whatever.
>
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> From:  viphone@googlegroups.com     On Behalf Of  
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> blind bargains. I tried it and I could not understand any aspect on how to 
> use it. Just credit button curious. I like flick type best amongst keyboard. 
> I do not own a Bluetooth keyboard and personally never will.   
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Re: where am I

[Tom Frank]

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:I 
> love the Ariadni app but it costs. You can also simply ask Seri to alert you 
> when you get home. You can also say, Hey Seri, shere am I? That works as well.

Tom Frank

> 
> Hi,
> 
> This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since
> others may not know as well.
> When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my IPhone
> to help me determine when I am back home.  Our house is in the middle
> of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes to
> determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she
> doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround
> them (without any formal training).
> 
> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street
> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.
> 
> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?
> 
> Any tips would be appreciated.
> 
> Don
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RE: 5-key shift keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just curious, why do you never want to get a bluetooth keyboard? I personally 
have a Logitech K780 which is my main keyboard for use with my Windows laptop, 
but it does support up to 3 devices and I have my iPhone paired with it as 
well. I rarely use it, but occasionally if I do want to type a longer email or 
message in Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp I just press FN+F2, within 2 seconds 
it connects and I can start pounding away. I don’t use it enough to know all 
the keystrokes for navigating and so on and pretty much strictly use it to type 
text once I am already where I need to be, but fo rthat it still beats anything 
else including dictation or FlickType or whatever.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Maslo
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: 5-key shift keyboard

Hi list.

I was wondering if anyone had tried the five key shift keyboard? I saw it on 
blind bargains. I tried it and I could not understand any aspect on how to use 
it. Just credit button curious. I like flick type best amongst keyboard. I do 
not own a Bluetooth keyboard and personally never will.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Sincerely,

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Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not using the DropBox app, so I'm not sure if this will help or not, 
but if you switch granularity in the roter to lines or paragraphs, 
couldn't you then move through the document with the flick up and down 
gesture?



On 04/15/2018 07:53 AM, Alexandra wrote:

I forgot to mention that I also need to edit texts which didn's stored in 
dropbox which didn't work when I tried it last time. Another thing is that when 
you read a file with the dropbox app the whole file is read in one row and you 
can't navigate. This is okay for short texts but not for longer texts like 
books.

Am Freitag, 13. April 2018 um 21:43 schrieb Richard Turner:
   
  What's wrong with using the Dropbox app and VoiceOver?

Or, the app you used to create the text files.
I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to do.
Richard
  
  
  
   
  
  “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”
  
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  On Apr 13, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Alexandra  wrote:
  
   
  
Hi,
  
  which app do you use for reading your own texts? I'm looking for

an app that allows me to read my own txt and pdf files stored in
dropbox conviniently. Voice dream reader wouldn't be my first
choice, as I find it rather overloaded with features and don't  like
the way menues are presented. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  
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5-key shift keyboard

[Michael Maslo]

 
 

 
Hi list.  
 

 
I was wondering if anyone had tried the five key shift keyboard? I saw it on 
blind bargains. I tried it and I could not understand any aspect on how to use 
it. Just credit button curious. I like flick type best amongst keyboard. I do 
not own a Bluetooth keyboard and personally never will.  
 

 
Any feedback is appreciated.  
 

 
Sincerely,  
 

 
Michael  
 
 

 
 

 
 

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Re: Weather Gods Watch Face

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,


Apparently the term comes from old mechanical watches where information other 
than the time was referred to as a complication.  So a watch that displayed the 
date was said to have one complication.

Perhaps their being called complications referred to the complexities of the 
device.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 14:34, Doc wright  wrote:
> 
> out of curiosity, why are these called "complications"? to me a complication 
> is something I do not want.  a complication is normally a problem.
> - Original Message -
> From: mike maslo
> To: Viphone
> Sent: April 14, 2018 09:19 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Weather Gods Watch Face
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: The Weather Gods 
>> Date: Apr 14, 20y18 at 10:13
>> To: mike maslo 
>> Subject: Re: Weather Gods Watch Face
>> 
>> We have many complications which can be configured for the various watch 
>> faces.
>> 
>> The complications can be configured by:
>> 
>> 1. Loading the Apple Watch App on your phone.
>> 2. Swipe down until you find Weather Gods and then double tap. This takes 
>> you to our watch settings.
>> 3. From here, swipe down until you find the watch face section you use.
>> 4. Double tap on the ‘Display’ button and this takes you to a menu where you 
>> can choose the small complication to appear on the watch face, including the 
>> dedicated voiceover complication.
>> 
>> Let me know if you need any more assistance with the setup?
>> Kind regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 11:40, mike maslo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am talking about custom complications. I do not see how to access them or 
>>> how to get where I can do that from. Could you provide me steps to do that 
>>> please? I am interested in the voice over one or want too see what else is 
>>> available. 
>>> 
>>> Any help would be appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 14, 2018 at 00:22,  wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 
 
 We have custom complications or do you mean customise the main watch app?
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Scott
 
 
>> 
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Re: Is the Hulu app accessible?

[Mama Peach]

It is somewhat accessible, you can browse more easily than you can search. The 
search feature is not accessible at all. You can browse for different genres 
and other things to find what you want to watch. Before you could do nothing.

From: Mr. Ed 
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Subject: Is the Hulu app accessible?

Hi All,

A friend of mine would like to know if the Hulu app is accessible. I guess it 
use to be accessible but they updated it and now the last time he tried it, it 
was not accessible. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Mr. Ed

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Re: Weather Gods Watch Face

[Doc wright]

out of curiosity, why are these called "complications"? to me a complication is 
something I do not want.  a complication is normally a problem.
  - Original Message - 
  From: mike maslo 
  To: Viphone 
  Sent: April 14, 2018 09:19 AM
  Subject: Fwd: Weather Gods Watch Face






  Begin forwarded message:


From: The Weather Gods 
Date: Apr 14, 20y18 at 10:13
To: mike maslo 
Subject: Re: Weather Gods Watch Face


We have many complications which can be configured for the various watch 
faces.

The complications can be configured by:

1. Loading the Apple Watch App on your phone.
2. Swipe down until you find Weather Gods and then double tap. This takes 
you to our watch settings.
3. From here, swipe down until you find the watch face section you use.
4. Double tap on the ‘Display’ button and this takes you to a menu where 
you can choose the small complication to appear on the watch face, including 
the dedicated voiceover complication.


Let me know if you need any more assistance with the setup?
Kind regards
Scott




  On 14 Apr 2018, at 11:40, mike maslo  wrote:


  I am talking about custom complications. I do not see how to access them 
or how to get where I can do that from. Could you provide me steps to do that 
please? I am interested in the voice over one or want too see what else is 
available. 


  Any help would be appreciated. 



On Apr 14, 2018 at 00:22,  wrote:


Hi Mike,

We have custom complications or do you mean customise the main watch app?

Kind regards
Scott



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Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

[Richard Turner]

I did not quite understand what you were asking. My favorite app for reading 
files that I download from DropBox is Voice Dream Reader.
You can set VoiceDream Reader to stop after every sentence, or pause it and 
navigate back or forward by sentence.
Plus you have the option to use higher quality voices, though some of the new 
VoiceOver voices are quite good.
You can also then read books from BookShare, Word, Etc.
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On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Alexandra 
> wrote:

Sounds good, I will try that. Thanks!
Am Freitag, 13. April 2018 um 23:07 schrieb Alan Lemly:
You might try the Dolphin Easy Reader. I've started playing around
with it a bit but don't have much experience at this point. I still
really like Voice Dream Reader and don't like learning a lot of apps the do the 
same thing.



Alan Lemly



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anna Dresner
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Hi,



YOu can also read PDFs in iBooks.



Best,

Anna











On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Richard Turner
> wrote:



What's wrong with using the Dropbox app and VoiceOver?

Or, the app you used to create the text files.

I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to do.

Richard





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  Hi,

which app do you use for reading your own texts? I'm looking for an
app that allows me to read my own txt and pdf files stored in
dropbox conviniently. Voice dream reader wouldn't be my first
choice, as I find it rather overloaded with features and don't like
the way menues are presented. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Alexandra


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Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

[Alexandra]

Sounds good, I will try that. Thanks!
Am Freitag, 13. April 2018 um 23:07 schrieb Alan Lemly:
> You might try the Dolphin Easy Reader. I've started playing around
> with it a bit but don't have much experience at this point. I still
> really like Voice Dream Reader and don't like learning a lot of apps the do 
> the same thing.

>  

> Alan Lemly

>  

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> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

>  

> Hi,

>  

> YOu can also read PDFs in iBooks.

>  

> Best,

> Anna

>  

>  

>  





> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Richard Turner
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>  

> What's wrong with using the Dropbox app and VoiceOver? 

> Or, the app you used to create the text files.

> I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to do.

> Richard

>  

>  

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> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


> On Apr 13, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Alexandra  wrote:

>Hi,

> which app do you use for reading your own texts? I'm looking for an
> app that allows me to read my own txt and pdf files stored in
> dropbox conviniently. Voice dream reader wouldn't be my first
> choice, as I find it rather overloaded with features and don't like
> the way menues are presented. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

> Alexandra


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Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

[Alexandra]

I forgot to mention that I also need to edit texts which didn's stored in 
dropbox which didn't work when I tried it last time. Another thing is that when 
you read a file with the dropbox app the whole file is read in one row and you 
can't navigate. This is okay for short texts but not for longer texts like 
books.

Am Freitag, 13. April 2018 um 21:43 schrieb Richard Turner:
>   
>  What's wrong with using the Dropbox app and VoiceOver? 
> Or, the app you used to create the text files. 
> I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to do. 
> Richard 

>  
>  
>  

>   
>  
>  “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”
>  
>  - Mitch Albom from The Magic  Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>

>  On Apr 13, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Alexandra  wrote:
>  
>   
>  
>Hi,
>  
>  which app do you use for reading your own texts? I'm looking for
> an app that allows me to read my own txt and pdf files stored in
> dropbox conviniently. Voice dream reader wouldn't be my first
> choice, as I find it rather overloaded with features and don't  like
> the way menues are presented. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>  
>  Alexandra
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Re: Checkbox Gesture

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard & Simon,

Thank you very much for your help.  I was activating WiFi calling on our 
phones last night and the checkboxes for the verification dialogue didn't 
want to co-operate.  I did get the boxes checked, but I wasn't sure exactly 
how I did it!  LOLThanks again.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: Checkbox Gesture




Mike,
Think of things like checkboxes, buttons, etc., as things that need to be 
activated or selected.
In iOS, that is the one finger double tap.
I've seen places where while you hear a checkbox or button and you double 
tap and nothing happens. Sometimes you have to flick up with three fingers 
to scroll up and maybe even then flick left with one finger to get back to 
the thing you want to activate before you can get it to work.
This used to be the case with the BardMobile app as an example.
It still happens on some web forms.
HTH,
Richard





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On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:08 AM, 'Simon' via VIPhone  
wrote:


  can’t you just double tap on the check box.

  From: Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:05 AM
  To: VIPhone
  Subject: Checkbox Gesture

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Re: Checkbox Gesture

[Richard Turner]

Mike,
Think of things like checkboxes, buttons, etc., as things that need to be 
activated or selected.
In iOS, that is the one finger double tap.
I've seen places where while you hear a checkbox or button and you double tap 
and nothing happens. Sometimes you have to flick up with three fingers to 
scroll up and maybe even then flick left with one finger to get back to the 
thing you want to activate before you can get it to work.
This used to be the case with the BardMobile app as an example.
It still happens on some web forms.
HTH,
Richard




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On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:08 AM, 'Simon' via VIPhone 
> wrote:

can’t you just double tap on the check box.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:05 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Checkbox Gesture

Hi All,

Running an SE iPhone with iOS 11.3.  What is the gesture for checking or 
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Re: Checkbox Gesture

['Simon' via VIPhone]

can’t you just double tap on the check box.

From: Mike B. 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:05 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Checkbox Gesture

Hi All,

Running an SE iPhone with iOS 11.3.  What is the gesture for checking or 
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Checkbox Gesture

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running an SE iPhone with iOS 11.3.  What is the gesture for checking or 
unchecking checkboxes?  Thank y'all very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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